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A91118 A testimony of God, and his way, and worship against all the false wayes and worships of the vvorld. Also an answer to some of the false doctrines held forth, by a professed minister, in VVales; shewing the unsoundness of his former actions, and is found to be one, in the nature of the vvorld; which sometime he hath spoken against. With an answer to some queries; propounded by one, who is called an Anabaptist. / Given forth for no other end, but in love to the truth, as it is in Iesus: by Alex: Parker. Parker, Alexander, 1628-1689. 1656 (1656) Wing P383; Thomason E883_6; ESTC R207301 24,030 31

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in the place of Christ as Vavasar Powel doth who calls the Scriptures the Foundation of Faith and the Word of God when plain Scripture doth testify against him and witnesseth Christ to be the Foundation and the Authour and finisher of Faith whose name is called the Word of God Heb. 12.2 Rev. 19 13. Many other Scriptures I might bring that witnesses of the Word of God for all the whole Scriptures being given forth from the word declare of the word and so they are called by the Ministers of the word Luke the first But it hath been a common thing amongst the Professours of our time because wee do not nay dare not set the Scriptures in the place of Christ nor call them by his name to accuse us for denying of the Scriptures but their accusation wee do deny and let our lives and conversations which wee live in Christ Jesus be witnesses for the Lord and for us herein and I appeal to the conscience of all the honest hearted in the nation to judge whether those who talk so much of Scripture and calls it the Word of God and their Rule to walk by and they themselves live in pride and covetousnesse strife and envy wrath malice stubbornesse and crosnesse backbiting and speaking evill one of another behind their backs foolish jesting idle communication vain sports and pleasures and in the customes and fashions of the world little or nor at all differing from them in any thing but in words which things the Scripture testifies against or those who live in the fear of God in meeknesse and humility and cannot fashion themselves according to the world nor use the vain customes and traditions of men who cannot bow to the rich nor respect the persons of those who were the gay cloathing and the gold Ring no more then the poor man in the vile Rayment which of these doth deny the Scriptures those who talke of them and live not in the life of them or those whose lives and conversations are according to them let the wise in heart Judge A. P. An answer to some Queries given to my hands which were propounded by one who goes under the name of an Anabaptist living in Shrewsbury SOme Queries I have received from one who subscribes his name Richard Stephens wherein he saith the intent of his writing is to be better informed in things wherein he is not satisfied But in the Light of Jesus he is comprehended and seen to be of that Generation who cryed up the Commands and the Ordinances of God as Temple Sabbath Circumcision Priests Sacrifices Scriptures and the like and said they were of Abraham and God was their Father and they builded the Tombs of the Prophets and garnished the sepulchre of the righteous and condemned their fore-fathers saving if we had lived in their dayes we would not have killed the Prophets and yet these crucified the Son of God and they did not believe in him who was the light the Covenant of the Father the sum and substance of those things which they upheld which were but figures tipes and shadows yet in their time Commands of God and were to bee observed and kept yet those who had these outward Commands did not believe in the Light but were by Christ the Light cryed woe against and those who believed in the Light and followed Christ denyed those outward Commands and had no Scripture for it but the testimony of the light within them which was a hard thing in those times to deny the Commands in the letters for the Jews and Chief Priests had Scripture to uphold them and counted the Apostles deceivers and a cursed people that knew not the Law But by the mighty power of God they were carried on and witnessed against the outward Commands and cryed against them that upheld them and witnessed the Commands of God and the worship of God in the spirit and their bodies wa● Temples of the Holy Ghost and God dwelt in them so the new Covenant they witnessed the Law of God written in their hearts and the spirit put in the inward parts which was their guide in the spiritual worship and these denyed those things which once were Commands of God which were outward and typical and it was no breach of the Commands of God to them but obedience to the commands of the Spirit of God in them by which they witnessed against the shadows and witnessed the substance And a generation there is now of which this man that gave forth these Queries is one who hath gotten the good words the Scriptures and painted themselves over with a covering like the spirit but is not the spirit and these cry up the Church of Christ and the ordinances of Christ and condemnes the Jewes their fore-fathers for crucifying of Christ and yet they are found in the same nature who deny the light and counts them deceivers and a cursed generation who are in the light who with the light deny their imitated Churches and taken on commands which it no more but a will worship and a self righteousnesse which stands in the will of man which is as filthy rags and as menstruous cloathes seen they are and comprehended in the light of Christ to be under the woe out of the Covenant of our God and here is the ground of all the sects and opinions and the many Religions Man living in his will and professing the Scriptures which came not by the will of man but contrary to mans will here man in his will is giving his pr●vate meanings and interpretations and one he gives one meaning to the Scriptures and sets up a Religion and a worship of God according to his meaning and conceiving from the letter of the Scripture in his will Another he gives another meaning and sets up another worship and a Religion according to his meaning and conceiving from the Scriptures and so a third gives his meaning and so are divided into many sects and opinions and these are the Babel builders one building up a wall and another daubing with untempered morter and these are out of the faith and union of the Saints who walk in the light and have union and fellowship in the spirit of love written in one anothers heart and so are all of one heart But the other who stands in their wills and imitates and takes on commands in their own wills as their imaginations thoughts and conceivings leads them are not all of one heart but are divided and some sprinkle water on the face of a child and calls that Baptizme and others deny that and are dipped over head and ears in water and calls that Baptizme and then they call themselves Beleevers and Saints and so run to the letter of the Scripture and reading with a wrong eye are still in confusion and more and more divisions there is a mongst them some are called free-willers or that hold generall redemption that Christ died for all and some are called particulars that
powerfull operation in them by which word their hearts was purifyed and cleansed which word was within them as a fire to burn up and consume the works of the devill and as a hammar to break the hard heart and this word was not far of as the Apostle testifieth say not in thy heart who shall ascend up into Heaven to fetch Christ from above or go down into the deep to fetch him from below but the word is nigh thee in thy heart and in thy mouth and this is the word of faith that we preach Rom. 10.8 and this word was within them and wrought powerfully in them which they witnessed to be quick and powerfull sharper then a two edged sword and those who know not this living and powerfull word within them puts the letter for the word and calls that the word and when I spoke these words the said Powell said unto me Is not the Scriptures called the word of God And then I said unto him is it the word of God for it hath long been called so by ignorants that knows not God and his word and he affirmed and said it was and was put to prove it and he brought two places of Scriptures but neither place did say that the Scriptures was the word of God but declared of the word and then Powell said to his hearers we will leave them heare they deny the Scriptures to be the word of God and some of his hearers were very ready to receive it and cryed out they deny the Scripture whereupon I spoke to them and wished to be moderate and hear with patience and do not accuse falsly That because we cannot call the Scriptures by the name of Christ do we therefore deny the Scripture No far be it from us to deny it for if I should deny its testimony I should deny my own life and I said I own it to be a true declaration of that word that was in them that spoke it forth and it was the word of the Lord to them and in them that spoke it forth but for ungodly and unholy men to talk of their words and not live in their life are theeves that steales the word from their neighbour and some of the people said was it the word of the Lord to them and not to us And this they would not hear and then I instanced some Scriptures to them how that the word of the Lord came to the true Prophets and they spoke the word of the Lord as they had received it from the mouth of the Lord and after it was spoken forth the false Prophets stole the true Prophets words and they said thus saith the Lord when the Lord never spoke to them and so run when the Lord never sent them and therefore they did not profit the people at all And this further I say that as it was then even so it is now in these our dayes prond men and covetous men heady and high minded men and men that followes pleasures and are lovers thereof more then lovers of God and envyous men and men of strife and railers back-biters slanderers and false accusers and such like ungodly and unholy men have gotten the Scriptures the good words which the holy men of God spoke forth from the holy and pure word of God which was within them which was and is spiritual and invisible and endures for ever such ungodly men aforementioned have gotten the declaration and are talking of the fame of God but are strangers to the living life and power of God and they fay this saith the Lord or hearken to the word of the Lord as you shall find it written in such a chapter and such a verse and so use their tongues and say the Lord saith as the false Prophets did when the Lord never spake to them and so have gotten a form of godliness but want the life and power and leads silly men and women captive laden with sin and led away with divers lusts ever learning but never able to come to the true knowledge of God so I say that many may have the Scriptures which were given forth from them who knew the voyce and word of God and know not neither have heard the voyce of God nor his word but onely the sound or frame of it for the Iews who had the Scriptures Moses writings and the Prophets and could speake much of them and often heard them read and yet Christ tells them plainly they had neither heard his voyce at any time nor seen his shape for they had not the word of God abiding in them for whom the Father had sent they did not believe and there Christ himself calls them Scriptures which testify of him but he doth not call them the Word of God for if they had been the Word of God then the Iews had heard the word of God but Christ tells them they had not at any time heard the voyce of God neither was the word of God abiding in them as it is written Ioh. 5.37 38 39. c. And now a few words concerning the word of God from Scripture testimony which the Holy men of God spoke forth and so witnesses to the same eternall word which I bear testimony of which was in the beginning before all time by which the Heavens and the earth were made and are upheld by the word of his power as it is written Ioh. 1.1 2 3. Psal 33.6 Heb. 1.3 And the word of the Lord is spiritual and endures for ever it is as a fire and as a hammer that breaks the rocks in pieces The word of God is quick and powerful sharper then any two edged sword and pearces even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit and of the joynts and marrow and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart 1 Pet. 1.23.25 Ier. 23.29 Hebr. 4.12 But the Scriptures or writings were nor in the beginning before all time but were since the beginning in time neither were the Heavens made by the Scriptures not are all things upheld by the Scripture neither do they endure for ever but they are visible and in times passed away but the word of the Lord which the Scriptures declare of is spirituall and shall endure for ever The Scriptures or writings are not as a fire but with fire may be burnt as Ieremiah his roll was burnt but the word of the Lord cannot be burnt for by the living word another Roll was written The Scriptures or writings are not as a hammar but with a hammar may be beaten to pieces neither is the Scriptures quick nor sharper then a two edged sword but they are dead and with a two edged sword may be cut to pieces behold your ignorance you carnall Professors whose understandings are so dark and your eyes so blind that you stumble at noon day and so cannot put a difference between the precious and the vile nor between the living word and the dead letter but sets the letter
of the world and such puts darknesse for light and light for darknesse and calls the ordinances and traditions of men the ordinances of Christ and so would make the word of God of none effect by their traditions for they are the Sons of God who are led and guided by the Spirit of God and such denyes the shadows who witnesse the substance for if ye be dead with Christ from the Rudiments of the world why as though living in the world are ye subject to ordinances God is a Spirit and his ordinances are spiritual in the Gospel Administration Qu. III. Whether or no they are not blessed that do observe to do all the Ordinances and the Commands of the Lord Christ therein conteyned yea or nay and if they are then whether are not they a cursed generation of men that do not observe to do them but to teach men to break them Answ They are blessed that do observe all the Commandments of the Lord Christ that they may have right unto the tree of life and may enter in through the gate into the City But to that in thy conscience do I speak art thou one that dost observe al the Commandments of the Lord Christ art thou brought to yea and nay in thy communication art thou brought to do to all men as thou would have them to do unto thee Doth not something in thy conscience testify against thee and let thee see the contrary If any one sue thee at the Law and take away the Coat let him have thy Cloak also dost thou obey this command or dost thou not rather go quite contrary instead of letting him have thy Cloak with thy Coat would not thou go to Law with him before hee should have thy Coat To that in thy conscience do I speak if one smite thee on one cheek dost thou turn the other or would not something in thee arise to smite again Search and examine and if upon search thou be found a transgressour then art not thou one of the cursed generation that dost not observe to do all the commands of the Lord Christ which those whom thou art smiting warring against through the operation of God working in them are able and brought to observe are of the blessed generation to whom all the promises of God are due Qu. IV. Whether there be any other Gospel then that which was declared and testified of unto the world by Christ and his Disciples which is left upon record unto us in this our generation in the Scriptures of Truth yea or nay And whether this that you declare be the same that Christ and his Apostles did declare unto the Saints in their generation both for matter and manner Answ There is no other Gospel but that which was declared and testified of by Christ and his Disciples and the same Gospel do we preach and no other which is a mistery not known to the world which cannot be contained in a book nor written in letters for that which is written by Matthew Mark Luke and Iohn is but a declaration and that may be bought and sold for money But the Gospel cannot be bought and sold for money for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that beleeves and those that witnessed the Gospel were freed from sin and had remission of their sins But many have the Scriptures but have not the power of God but are alive unto sin and here thou hast much manifested thy folly and weaknesse who would have the Gospel conteined in a book which all the books in the world cannot conteyn which Gospel and glad tydings is now witnessed by the Children of Light free pardon of sin by Jesus Christ who is come to take away sin Glory and honour and everlasting praises to his Holy and dreadfull name for ever Qu. V. Whether the Apostles of Christ which wrote the Epistles unto the Churches and the Saints in that generation had not as much of the light of Christ within them as any have now in this generation yea or nay And wherefore were the Epistles written or did the Apostles write needlesse things or thy did they not onely call upon them to mind the light which was within them Ans Concerning the Apostles and the Saints having as much of the light of Christ within them as any have now it little concernes thee or any one else I leave it to him from whence all light comes who is the same now as ever and changes not Jesus Christ the same yesterday to day and for ever and gives to every one light according as it pleaseth him which light the Prophets and Apostles and Holy men of God did witnesse in them from which they write and did not write needlesse things but exhorted to take heed to the light which was within them which was and is a mistery we have also a more sure word of Prophesie unto which ye do well to take heed as unto a light shining in a dark place untill the day dawn and the day star arise in your hearts The word is light and the word was within them nigh in their hearts the Law is light and the Law was within written in their hearts the spirit is light and it was within them to whom the Epistles were written and the Kingdom of Heaven is light and it was within though not comprehended in the earthly and dark wisedome of man and Christ Jesus is the light and this was the mistery which was hid from ages and generations which was within the Saints their hope of glory and thou and all the world that denies the light of Christ within and stumbles at the light are strangers to the Covenant of promise and art without God in the world in the sin and disobedience upon whom the wrath of God abides and thou cannot escape the judgements of God nor ever come from under the curse untill the light thou dost own to guid and lead thee in the way which is pure out of the Kingdom of darkness into the Kingdom of the dear Son of God Qu. VI. Whether such men who walk up according to the testimony of the Scriptures in the life and power of them according to the measure of light they have received and yet through the weaknesse of the flesh do commit some sin though not willfully whether you can pronounce such men children of the devil yea or nay Ans Those who walk up according to the Scriptures in the life and power according to the measure of light they have received are kept from the sin abiding in the light for he that abides in the light sins not he that sins hath not seen him neither knows him he that doth righteousnesse is of God and he that commit sin is of the devil as the Scripture declareth Qu. 7. Whether all men and women that have forsaken the rule of the Scriptures and have betaken themselves to walk by the light within them are made presently perfect
from sin upon their owning of the light within and so cannot sin any more while they live in this flesh Ans The Scriptures are not forsaken by those who own the light but with the light the words are owned and all those denyed who talk of the good words and professe the Scriptures to be their rule but live not in the pure life but walk contrary to the Scriptures and as there is a waiting in the light there is a growth up from strength to strength and from glory to glory untill the perfect day But those who live in the flesh cannot prease God whose faith is not perfect but is reprobate concerning the faith of Christ and such cannot believe that ever they shall be made perfect or free from sin while they live upon the earth and without faith it is impossible to please God Qu. VIII VVhether or no the first Resurrection spoken of Revel 20.6 be in this life yea or nay And if it be whether hath all that walk by the light within them part in the first resurrection so soon as they own that light and if they have then whether or no is it not possible that they may forsake the light and walk in darknesse and so come to cast of the second death which they that come to partake of the first resurrection shall never cast of or is not the testimony of that place of Scripture true Answ Concerning the first resurrection spoken of Rev. 20.6 it is not in that life that thou lives in which gave forth these queries But those who dwelt in the light and were in the faith had passed from death to life and in the new life it is known which is in Christ Jesus who is the resurrection and the life on such the second death hath no power and such hath part in the first resurrection and are blessed But thou hast wronged the Scripture and so it shall be a witnesse against thee which testimony is true witnessed by the same spirit that gave forth the Scripture Qu. IX VVhether or no that body of flesh of Christ that suffered at Ierusalem upon the Cross which Joseph of Arithmathea begged of Pilate and buried in his own sepulchre rose again the 3. day after it was buried whether the same body of flesh be now glorified in Heaven with the Father These few Queries I have written unto you who are called by the name of Quakers I have not written them to any particular person of you but to whomsoever of you shall be free to give me an answer of them in particular in truth according to your understanding in them I have not written them in any intent but onely to be better informed in things wherein I am not informed in things wherein I am not satisfied from him who wisheth good to all and hurt to none Richard Stephens Answ In this query thou art disputing and querying about the body of Jesus as the devil disputed about the body of Moses But it is a mistery hid from all dark understandings who hate the light that comes from Jesus which is the eye that sees him who is invisible which all who love their evill deeds and hate the light never shall know nor see but are shut out and with the light condemned Thou must first own the light that shewes thee the body of sin and so pass through the death of the crosse whereby the body of sin is put of and crucified then shalt thou know with what body Christ is glorified in Heaven with the Father Godliness is a great mistery not known to the world nor to the earthly wisedom but the secrets of God are with them that fear him the spirit searcheth all things yea the deep and hidden things of God So in the fear of God I do exhort thee to return unto God and mind that principle of God in thee that reproves thee in secret for thy evill deeds there is thy Teacher if thou love it to guide thee to God but if thou hate it and live according to the course of this world it will be thy comdemnation Prize thy time while thou hast it VVritten by one who is a lover of all those that love the truth in simplicity and sincerity of heart who is known to the world by the name of Alexander Parker but hath a new name which the world knows not written in the Book of Life FINIS