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A54011 A plain representation of transubstantiation, as it is received in the Church of Rome with the sandy foundations it is built upon, and the arguments that do clearly evert and overturn it / by a countrey divine. Pendlebury, Henry, 1626-1695. 1687 (1687) Wing P1141; ESTC R15015 70,794 77

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representation_n and_o signification_n there_o be_v a_o real_a exhibition_n of_o the_o thing_n signify_v the_o bread_n be_v his_o body_n a_o represent_v exhibit_v and_o convey_v sign_n of_o his_o body_n at_o once_o both_o represent_v and_o exhibit_v and_o convey_v christ_n crucify_v with_o the_o benefit_n of_o his_o cross_n and_o passion_n to_o the_o faith_n of_o a_o true_a christian_a or_o believer_n we_o come_v to_o the_o reason_n allege_v for_o the_o popish_a sense_n first_o they_o say_v christ_n speak_v clear_o and_o plain_o so_o as_o the_o disciple_n may_v easy_o understand_v his_o meaning_n 1._o and_o i_o say_v so_o also_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v call_v once_o into_o question_n whether_o our_o lord_n speak_v plain_o and_o apert_o so_o as_o the_o disciple_n may_v understand_v he_o or_o no._n 2._o i_o say_v moreover_o that_o it_o be_v as_o unquestionable_a that_o the_o disciple_n do_v both_o ready_o and_o well_o understand_v our_o lord_n word_n and_o also_o in_o the_o sense_n 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and_o such_o thing_n they_o be_v therefore_o do_v the_o psalmist_n say_v he_o have_v do_v whatsoever_o he_o please_v not_o whatsoever_o he_o can_v he_o can_v do_v whatsoever_o he_o will_v but_o he_o will_v not_o do_v whatsoever_o he_o can_v temp._n ps_n 115.3_o omnia_fw-la quae_fw-la voluit_fw-la non_fw-la quae_fw-la potuit_fw-la omnia_fw-la quae_fw-la vult_fw-la potest_fw-la non_fw-la vero_fw-la quae_fw-la potest_fw-la vult_fw-la potest_fw-la enim_fw-la perdere_fw-la mundum_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la vult_fw-la damas_n omnipotens_fw-la est_fw-la deus_fw-la ad_fw-la facienda_fw-la majora_fw-la &_o minora_fw-la omnipotens_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la coelestia_fw-la &_o terrestria_fw-la omnipotens_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la mortalia_fw-la &_o immortalia_fw-la omnipotens_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la facienda_fw-la spiritualia_fw-la &_o corporalia_fw-la visibilia_fw-la &_o invisibilia_fw-la omnipotens_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la facienda_fw-la omne_fw-la quae_fw-la voluerit_fw-la alias_o aliqua_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la mori_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la peccare_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la mentiri_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la falli_fw-la aug._n serm._n 119_o de_fw-fr temp._n we_o may_v at_o this_o rate_n fancy_v any_o thing_n of_o god_n as_o if_o he_o have_v do_v it_o because_o it_o be_v in_o his_o power_n to_o do_v it_o he_o can_v have_v make_v man_n with_o wing_n to_o fly_v as_o bird_n and_o as_o angel_n be_v paint_v or_o with_o horn_n as_o some_o beast_n and_o as_o moses_n be_v picture_v do_v it_o follow_v that_o he_o have_v he_o can_v have_v make_v the_o horse_n or_o the_o ox_n to_o go_v upright_o as_o man_n it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o he_o have_v he_o be_v able_a of_o stone_n to_o raise_v up_o child_n unto_o abraham_n mat._n 3.9_o but_o we_o do_v not_o find_v that_o he_o ever_o have_v turn_v or_o will_v turn_v stone_n into_o child_n by_o this_o way_n of_o argue_v the_o alcaran_n and_o all_o that_o be_v contain_v in_o it_o may_v be_v maintain_v 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omnipotent_a will_v you_o question_v the_o omnipotent_a power_n of_o christ_n word_n look_v look_v at_o the_o many_o and_o mighty_a miracle_n that_o be_v do_v by_o it_o and_o be_v not_o faithless_a but_o believe_v what_o say_v you_o say_v bonner_n to_o mr._n philpot_n to_o the_o omnipotency_n of_o god_n 555._o act._n &_o mon._n 3_o vol._n p._n 555._o be_v not_o he_o able_a to_o perform_v that_o which_o he_o speak_v this_o be_v my_o body_n i_o tell_v thou_o that_o god_n by_o his_o omnipotency_n may_v make_v himself_o to_o be_v this_o carpet_n if_o he_o will._n but_o hold_v a_o little_a that_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n be_v omnipotent_a we_o not_o way_n doubt_n but_o we_o be_v as_o sure_o that_o he_o be_v also_o most_o true_a and_o can_v lie_v or_o deceive_v and_o therefore_o must_v notwithstanding_o his_o omnipotence_n peremptory_o deny_v your_o transubstantiation_n because_o it_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o truth_n and_o contrary_a to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o christ_n 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the_o same_o body_n shall_v be_v in_o many_o place_n or_o in_o more_o than_o one_o place_n at_o one_o time_n that_o a_o man_n shall_v be_v both_o alive_a and_o dead_a at_o once_o that_o
forsooth_o be_v a_o miracle_n of_o christ_n a_o great_a miracle_n a_o great_a miracle_n than_o any_o that_o he_o do_v and_o great_a than_o all_o that_o he_o do_v in_o the_o day_n of_o his_o flesh_n viz._n a_o bit_n of_o bread_n change_v in_o a_o moment_n into_o flesh_n blood_n and_o bone_n a_o sorry_a creature_n that_o a_o little_a mouse_n may_v carry_v away_o and_o eat_v at_o once_o turn_v into_o the_o almighty_a creator_n of_o heaven_n and_o earth_n and_o yet_o all_o this_o do_v without_o the_o least_o indication_n or_o appearance_n of_o any_o change_n at_o all_o for_o when_o this_o bit_n of_o bread_n be_v thus_o change_v if_o we_o look_v upon_o it_o as_o fix_o intent_o earnest_o as_o ever_o we_o can_v we_o can_v see_v no_o change_n if_o we_o handle_v it_o it_o be_v the_o same_o the_o very_a same_o that_o it_o be_v if_o we_o smell_v it_o why_o the_o smell_n be_v the_o same_o if_o we_o taste_v it_o it_o have_v no_o other_o taste_n and_o if_o we_o break_v and_o crumble_v it_o as_o 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