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A36591 Innocency and truth vindicated, or, A sober reply to Mr. Will's answer to a late treatise of baptisme wherein the authorities and antiquities for believers and against infants baptism are defended ... : with a brief answer to Mr. Blinmans essay / by Henry Danvers. Danvers, Henry, d. 1687. 1675 (1675) Wing D223; ESTC R8412 108,224 202

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commentarii_fw-la adamantii_fw-la titulo_fw-la for_o so_o he_o seem_v to_o think_v whosoever_o he_o be_v who_o commentary_n be_v extant_a upon_o luke_n under_o the_o title_n of_o adamantius_n which_o show_v say_v he_o that_o erasmus_n take_v they_o not_o to_o be_v origen_n or_o at_o least_o doubt_v thereof_o vossius_fw-la vossius_fw-la and_o vossius_fw-la disputatio_fw-la 14._o sect._n 8._o p._n 181._o say_v thus_o have_v cite_v origen_n whole_a testimony_n out_o of_o luke_n etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la de_fw-la origene_n minus_fw-la laborabimus_fw-la quia_fw-la quae_fw-la citabimus_fw-la graece_fw-la non_fw-la extant_a but_o we_o care_v the_o less_o for_o origen_n because_o the_o thing_n we_o cite_v be_v not_o extant_a in_o the_o greek_a and_o scultetus_n scultetus_n scultetus_n in_o his_o medul_n pat._n l._n 6._o c_o 2._o cum_fw-la graeca_n originis_fw-la opera_fw-la non_fw-la extant_a hodie_fw-la &_o quibus_fw-la latina_n versio_fw-la corrigi_fw-la possit_fw-la &_o emendari_fw-la that_o origen_n work_v in_o greek_a be_v not_o at_o present_a extant_a by_o which_o the_o latin_a u●rsion_n may_v be_v correct_v and_o amend_v and_o erasmus_n erasmus_n erasmus_n atque_fw-la utinam_fw-la extarent_fw-la graeca_n originis_fw-la monument_n quo_fw-la ruffinicas_fw-la art_n possemus_fw-la deprehen●ere_fw-la and_o i_o wish_v that_o the_o greek_a copy_n of_o origen_n be_v extant_a that_o so_o we_o may_v thereby_o discover_v the_o cheat_v of_o ruffinus_n sin_n 3._o origen_n be_v more_o a_o pelagian_a t●●n_n to_o assert_v original_a sin_n but_o serond_o there_o be_v good_a reason_n to_o question_n that_o those_o thing_n about_o infant_n baptism_n be_v not_o origen_n from_o the_o reason_n that_o be_v add_v to_o they_o viz._n to_o take_v away_o original_a sin_n whereas_o it_o be_v so_o well_o know_v that_o origen_n be_v not_o only_o a_o great_a arian_n but_o the_o very_a fountain_n and_o head_n of_o they_o as_o jerom_n and_o epiphanius_n call_v he_o magdeb._n century_n 3._o p._n 261._o etc._n etc._n but_o notorious_o do_v deny_v original_a sin_n as_o pag._n 265._o and_o therefore_o do_v doctor_n owin_n in_o his_o display_v of_o arianism_n ch_n 12._o say_v nor_n do_v origen_n pelaginise_v a_o little_a only_a but_o be_v suppose_v first_o to_o have_v bring_v pelaginisme_n into_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o do_v vossius_fw-la in_o his_o history_n of_o pelaginisme_n l._n 4._o th._n 6._o pag._n 153._o so_o much_o question_n whether_o those_o passage_n in_o his_o work_n mention_v infant_n baptism_n can_v be_v his_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o pelaginisme_n by_o all_o which_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o the_o judicious_a reader_n will_v conclude_v there_o be_v a_o good_a ground_n to_o judge_v this_o testimony_n of_o origen_n upon_o all_o these_o account_n to_o be_v as_o invallid_a and_o insignificant_a as_o the_o former_a and_o that_o as_o yet_o we_o have_v not_o the_o least_o evidence_n to_o prove_v this_o our_o unwriten_v tradition_n to_o be_v apostolical_a the_o last_o and_o chief_a examine_v cyprian_n testimony_n examine_v that_o be_v pretend_v to_o warrant_v this_o a_o apostolic_a tradition_n be_v that_o of_o cyprian_a in_o his_o and_o his_o 66._o bishop_n epistle_n to_o fidus_n who_o be_v place_v by_o usher_n in_o the_o middle_n of_o the_o three_o century_n 250._o wherein_o it_o be_v say_v to_o this_o purpose_n viz._n that_o it_o seem_v good_a not_o only_o to_o himself_o epistle_n a_o epitome_n of_o his_o epistle_n but_o a_o whole_a council_n that_o infant_n may_v be_v baptize_v before_o the_o eight_o day_n &_o the_o reason_n to_o enforce_v it_o be_v these_o that_o follow_n first_o because_o the_o baptism_n be_v simpe_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n second_o that_o it_o wash_v away_o original_a sin_n so_o as_o it_o be_v never_o to_o be_v impute_v more_o three_o because_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n be_v tender_v to_o all_o therefore_o all_o child_n shall_v be_v baptize_v four_o because_o child_n have_v lesser_a sin_n than_o other_o and_o so_o they_o need_v less_o pardon_n than_o man_n of_o grow_v year_n therefore_o less_o hindrance_n in_o they_o to_o come_v to_o god_n grace_n five_o because_o in_o their_o first_o birth_n they_o do_v nothing_o but_o pray_v by_o their_o cry_n and_o weep_v six_o because_o the_o soul_n that_o be_v not_o baptize_v be_v lose_v cypr._n l._n 3._o ep._n 8._o against_o which_o i_o give_v in_o three_o exception_n exception_n former_a exception_n first_o because_o infant_n baptism_n be_v not_o hereby_o urge_v for_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n nor_o upon_o any_o authority_n of_o scripture_n but_o upon_o his_o own_o and_z bishop_n argument_n as_o say_v such_o as_o they_o be_v to_o enforce_v it_o though_o if_o he_o shall_v have_v say_v it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n his_o word_n will_v no_o more_o have_v be_v take_v then_o when_o he_o tell_v we_o chrism_n and_o other_o invention_n be_v so_o too_o second_o because_o there_o be_v ground_n to_o question_n whether_o there_o be_v any_o such_o council_n first_o because_o there_o be_v no_o place_n mention_v where_o such_o a_o council_n be_v keep_v second_o the_o ground_n be_v so_o weak_a and_o erroneous_a three_o because_o it_o be_v a_o doctrine_n so_o much_o contradict_v by_o his_o great_a master_n tertullian_n four_o because_o there_o be_v many_o thing_n father_v upon_o he_o not_o he_o three_o that_o if_o it_o do_v true_o appear_v to_o be_v his_o yet_o there_o be_v as_o little_a ground_n to_o receive_v it_o upon_o his_o word_n as_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o corrupt_a erroneous_a and_o antichristian_a doctrine_n vent_v by_o he_o whereof_o you_o have_v some_o account_n from_o the_o magdeburg_n in_o his_o naevi_fw-la first_o mr._n will_n answer_v to_o the_o first_o to_o the_o first_o he_o say_v though_o he_o do_v not_o say_v it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n it_o follow_v not_o that_o he_o do_v not_o so_o own_o it_o the_o magdeburg_n say_v that_o he_o do_v so_o affirm_v it_o reply_n to_o which_o i_o say_v that_o in_o proof_n of_o apostolical_a tradition_n it_o be_v necessary_a to_o bring_v such_o only_a that_o upon_o warrantable_a ground_n be_v positive_a in_o it_o for_o this_o at_o the_o best_a can_v be_v urge_v but_o as_o a_o consequential_a proof_n and_o far_o fetch_v too_o viz._n because_o cyprian_a in_o his_o time_n give_v his_o opinion_n for_o it_o therefore_o it_o be_v practise_v in_o that_o age_n and_o because_o it_o be_v practise_v two_o hundred_o &_o fifty_o year_n after_o christ_n time_n therefore_o it_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o if_o allow_v will_v be_v excellent_a authority_n for_o all_o the_o superstitious_a observation_n of_o chrism_n exorcism_n and_o a_o hundred_o more_o of_o those_o knack_n but_o he_o tell_v we_o the_o magdeburg_n say_v that_o cyprian_n affirm_v it_o be_v so_o and_o that_o be_v just_a as_o much_o as_o if_o mr._n will_n shall_v so_o affirm_v except_o some_o ancient_a and_o authentic_a authority_n be_v produce_v for_o the_o same_o and_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o evidence_v out_o of_o his_o writing_n that_o he_o any_o where_o say_v so_o but_o as_o to_o what_o i_o say_v first_o mr._n will_n answer_v to_o the_o 2._o part_n of_o the_o first_o that_o if_o cyprian_a have_v any_o where_o upon_o his_o own_o word_n tell_v we_o it_o have_v be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n yet_o it_o will_v have_v signify_v as_o little_a as_o his_o tell_v we_o that_o chrism_n be_v so_o he_o reply_v and_o do_v not_o the_o same_o exception_n lie_v against_o tertullian_n who_o as_o the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o be_v the_o inventor_n of_o chrism_n and_o therefore_o say_v he_o be_v such_o inflexibleness_n stifness_n and_o partiality_n fair_a and_o equal_a to_o which_o i_o say_v reply_v if_o tertullian_n his_o master_n be_v the_o inventor_n of_o chrism_n which_o cyprian_n call_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n what_o credit_n then_o be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o his_o testimony_n that_o dare_v to_o avouch_v so_o fearful_a a_o lie_n so_o know_o second_o if_o he_o shall_v tell_v we_o upon_o his_o own_o word_n two_o hundred_o year_n after_o that_o both_o be_v apostolical_a we_o have_v great_a reason_n to_o distrust_v that_o of_o infant_n baptism_n when_o we_o know_v the_o other_o be_v a_o manifest_a falsehood_n neither_o be_v there_o the_o like_a reason_n to_o reject_v tertullia_n testimony_n against_o infant_n baptism_n first_o because_o it_o be_v only_o urge_v as_o matter_n of_o fact_n that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v deny_v by_o he_o to_o be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n the_o verity_n whereof_o i_o think_v never_o any_o doubt_v with_o the_o reason_n he_o give_v for_o the_o same_o in_o his_o book_n the_o baptism_n as_o doctor_n barlow_n and_o doctor_n tayler_n so_o full_o acknowledge_v have_v he_o indeed_o tell_v we_o that_o two_o hundred_o year_n before_o he_o without_o any_o proof_n but_o his_o own_o say_v so_o some_o of_o the_o apostle_n have_v deny_v it_o and_o at_o the_o same_o
appear_v also_o from_o what_o be_v witness_v hereto_o by_o hilary_n ambrose_n jerom_n and_o marius_n victorinus_n in_o the_o foresay_a page_n and_o therefore_o do_v the_o magdeburg_n upon_o hilary_n testimony_n say_v that_o the_o western_a church_n do_v so_o observe_v it_o and_o from_o jerom_n testimony_n do_v also_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o do_v appear_v till_o his_o time_n that_o the_o western_a church_n do_v so_o continue_v to_o baptise_v the_o adult_n upon_o profession_n the_o reader_n be_v desire_v in_o both_o those_o testimony_n p._n 55_o 56._o to_o put_v western_a for_o eastern_a second_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o further_a counsel_n 2._o three_o counsel_n appear_v from_o those_o decree_n of_o the_o three_o counsel_n viz._n the_o carthaginian_a council_n in_o africa_n and_o the_o laodicean_n and_o neocesarean_a counsel_n in_o asia_n so_o positive_o decree_a that_o teach_v confession_n faith_n and_o free_a choice_n aught_o to_o precede_v baptism_n which_o you_o have_v in_o pag._n 89._o three_o a_o three_o argument_n ise_v 3._o child_n of_o christian_n not_o bap_n ise_v that_o adult_n baptism_n be_v the_o only_o approve_a baptism_n of_o this_o age_n i_o demonstrate_v from_o those_o ten_o remarkable_a instance_n of_o the_o most_o eminent_a man_n in_o this_o century_n that_o be_v not_o baptize_v though_o the_o child_n of_o christian_a parent_n till_o they_o be_v able_a to_o make_v profession_n of_o their_o faith_n viz._n constantin_n bazil_n greg._n nazienzen_n ambrose_n chrysostom_n jerom_n augustin_n nectarius_n valentinian_n and_o theodosius_n against_o four_o of_o the_o 10_o except_v against_o to_o the_o first_o ten_o testimony_n of_o the_o say_n of_o the_o father_n mr._n will_n except_o only_o against_o four_o viz._n athanasius_n basil_n ambrose_n and_o nazienzen_n because_o he_o say_v they_o be_v all_o of_o they_o express_v for_o infant_n baptism_n and_o which_o be_v therefore_o pervert_v by_o i_o because_o i_o bring_v they_o for_o believer_n baptism_n only_o who_o be_v for_o infant_n baptism_n also_o to_o which_o i_o say_v that_o if_o but_o four_o of_o the_o ten_o be_v except_v against_o than_o we_o have_v six_o more_o stand_v good_a for_o we_o beside_o the_o former_a viz._n 15._o not_o except_v against_o as_o pervert_v but_o basil_n the_o four_o wit._n vindicate_v viz._n basil_n second_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o these_o four_o be_v very_o full_a in_o their_o testimony_n for_o adult_v baptism_n only_o for_o basile_n say_v express_o faith_n must_v needs_o precede_v and_o that_o none_o else_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o what_o can_v be_v more_o full_a athanasius_n athan._n athan._n as_o express_v also_o as_o he_o for_o teach_v and_o faith_n from_o christ_n commission_n before_o baptism_n and_o nazianzen_n naz._n naz._n as_o positive_a as_o either_o that_o they_o neither_o baptize_v any_o of_o old_a without_o profession_n and_o that_o it_o be_v dangerous_a then_o so_o to_o do_v and_o therefore_o advise_v that_o infant_n baptism_n shall_v be_v defer_v till_o they_o be_v capable_a to_o make_v some_o confession_n and_o ambrose_n ambrose_n ambrose_n as_o full_a also_o that_o the_o baptise_a shall_v not_o only_o make_v confession_n but_o desire_v the_o same_o therefore_o if_o any_o of_o they_o shall_v contrary_v hereto_o say_v infant_n shall_v be_v baptize_v it_o will_v not_o only_o contradict_v the_o acknowledge_v rule_n the_o general_a confess_v practice_n of_o the_o age_n but_o themselves_o also_o in_o the_o aforesaid_a testimony_n bear_v by_o they_o but_o three_o neither_o do_v it_o appear_v upon_o a_o due_a search_n for_o aught_o i_o can_v yet_o find_v that_o these_o four_o do_v so_o contradict_v themselves_o in_o assert_v infant_n baptism_n as_o affirm_v for_o first_o baptism_n athan_n not_o for_o infant_n baptism_n athanasius_n be_v much_o injure_v in_o father_v those_o question_n to_o antiochus_n upon_o he_o in_o the_o 114_o and_o 124._o whereof_o infant_n baptism_n be_v assert_v it_o be_v a_o forge_a and_o spurious_a thing_n and_o none_o of_o he_o as_o i_o shall_v make_v manifest_a present_o by_o undeniable_a proof_n second_o neither_o will_v it_o appear_v that_o basil_n basil_n nor_o basil_n have_v any_o where_o assert_v infant_n baptism_n as_o i_o shall_v full_o demonstrate_v in_o its_o place_n also_o and_o mr._n will_v his_o egregious_a mistake_n about_o it_o three_o as_o for_o the_o testimony_n that_o he_o produce_v that_o ambrose_n be_v for_o infant_n baptism_n ambrose_n nor_o ambrose_n from_o that_o say_n of_o he_o lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr ab._n cap._n 11._o because_o every_o age_n be_v obnexious_a to_o sin_n therefore_o every_o age_n first_o be_v fit_a for_o the_o sacrament_n be_v no_o proof_n for_o the_o same_o 1._o because_o circumcision_n be_v there_o only_o mean_v 2._o if_o baptize_v than_o those_o of_o every_o age_n that_o be_v fit_a for_o that_o sacrament_n must_v be_v suppose_v as_o he_o before_o tell_v we_o viz._n those_o only_a that_o be_v capable_a to_o confess_v faith_n and_o desire_n baptism_n otherwise_o by_o this_o testimony_n as_o he_o will_v carry_v it_o not_o only_o all_o child_n but_o all_o man_n and_o woman_n in_o the_o world_n the_o bad_a as_o well_o as_o the_o good_a the_o unbeliever_n as_o well_o as_o the_o believer_n be_v all_o obnoxious_a to_o sin_n be_v therefore_o esteem_v the_o fit_a subject_n of_o baptism_n but_o suppose_v ambrose_n be_v positive_a for_o infant_n baptism_n it_o be_v but_o the_o opinion_n of_o one_o doctor_n that_o contradict_v himself_o too_o and_o that_o against_o the_o judgement_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o age._n four_o as_o for_o the_o testimony_n he_o urge_v from_o greg._n nazienzen_n which_o have_v the_o most_o in_o it_o we_o shall_v due_o examine_v he_o tell_v we_o pag._n 11._o that_o greg._n nazienzens_n word_n be_v express_v in_o the_o case_n and_o make_v manifest_a that_o he_o be_v absolute_o for_o infant_n baptism_n in_o his_o 40._o oration_n viz._n have_v thou_o a_o young_a child_n let_v it_o be_v early_o consecrate_v yea_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o its_o infancy_n as_o mr._n will_n render_v the_o word_n and_o therefore_o as_o in_o his_o 3._o oration_n they_o baptize_v all_o age_n as_o he_o say_v baptism_n nazian_n not_o absolute_o for_o infant_n baptism_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o from_o his_o translate_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d infant_n to_o conclude_v he_o absolute_o for_o infant_n baptism_n be_v to_o impose_v a_o fallacy_n upon_o his_o reader_n when_o he_o know_v the_o word_n siggnify_v a_o state_n of_o childhood_n also_o that_o be_v capable_a of_o understanding_n as_o it_o be_v take_v 2_o tim_n 3_o 15._o and_o that_o from_o a_o child_n thou_o have_v know_v the_o scripture_n the_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o nazienzen_n must_v be_v understand_v by_o his_o early_a consicration_n to_o mean_v not_o in_o the_o cradle_n but_o as_o he_o explain_v himself_o so_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v capable_a to_o know_v mystery_n except_o only_o in_o the_o case_n of_o danger_n of_o death_n and_o which_o be_v to_o baptise_v not_o so_o much_o a_o child_n as_o a_o die_a person_n and_o that_o he_o mean_v not_o the_o infant_n state_n be_v manifest_a because_o in_o the_o same_o 40._o oration_n he_o have_v these_o word_n speak_v of_o those_o who_o decease_n without_o baptism_n viz._n neither_o can_v they_o re●eive_v baptism_n either_o perhaps_o by_o reason_n of_o infancy_n or_o some_o altogether_o involentary_a chance_n by_o which_o it_o be_v that_o even_o they_o who_o will_v obtain_v not_o the_o gift_n whereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o in_o his_o time_n infancy_n be_v one_o of_o the_o obstacle_n that_o hinder_v baptism_n and_o whereby_o person_n decease_v without_o it_o and_o therefore_o by_o that_o passage_n in_o his_o three_o oration_n of_o all_o age_n receive_v baptism_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v such_o only_a that_o be_v capable_a of_o instruction_n in_o the_o faith_n and_o the_o mystery_n of_o that_o ordinance_n whether_o young_a man_n old_a man_n or_o father_n have_v before_o declare_v be_v so_o dangerous_a to_o come_v unprepared_a to_o it_o therefore_o gregory_n testimony_n so_o much_o lean_v upon_o to_o prove_v infant_n baptism_n in_o this_o century_n signify_v nothing_o and_o doctor_n barlow_n tell_v we_o that_o as_o tertullian_n in_o the_o former_a age_n condemn_v it_o as_o a_o unwarrentable_a and_o irrational_a custom_n so_o do_v nazienzen_n as_o he_o say_v dislike_v it_o too_o and_o will_v not_o have_v they_o bring_v to_o baptism_n till_o they_o be_v of_o some_o age_n and_o able_a to_o answer_v for_o themselves_o in_o his_o oration_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d objection_n but_o it_o be_v say_v be_v it_o not_o manifest_a that_o in_o case_n of_o danger_n of_o death_n he_o will_v have_v a_o infant_n bap_n a_o sea_n answer_n it_o be_v true_a but_o that_o be_v not_o qua_fw-la infant_n but_o ●s_v a_o die_a person_n and_o
the_o behalf_n of_o believer_n and_o against_o infant_n baptism_n and_o whether_o mr._n will_n have_v reason_n to_o charge_v i_o with_o delusion_n for_o produce_v of_o they_o which_o as_o yet_o stand_v unanswered_a for_o the_o most_o part_n and_o i_o believe_v ever_o will_v do_v chap._n ii_o that_o infant_n baptism_n have_v neither_o foundation_n in_o scripture_n or_o antiquity_n be_v make_v good_a against_o mr._n will_v his_o pretence_n to_o both_o section_n 1_o as_o in_o the_o former_a chapter_n so_o in_o this_o i_o shall_v sum_v up_o what_o i_o have_v say_v to_o justify_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o assertion_n what_o mr._n will_n grant_v thereof_o wherein_o the_o force_n of_o his_o objection_n lie_v and_o my_o reply_n thereto_o baptism_n that_o no_o precept_n or_o practice_n for_o infant_n baptism_n the_o first_o thing_n i_o do_v herein_o be_v to_o make_v good_a the_o scripture_n total_a silence_n either_o as_o to_o precept_n or_o practise_v for_o infnnt_n baptism_n and_o that_o by_o the_o full_a grant_n and_o acknowledgement_n of_o so_o many_o of_o themselves_o viz._n the_o magdeburg_n luther_n erasmus_n calvin_n bucer_n staphilus_n choelens_n melancton_n zwinglius_fw-la rogers_n baxter_n pag._n 89._o to_o 93_o as_o also_o the_o necessity_n of_o scripture_n precept_n or_o example_n to_o warrant_v every_o ordinance_n by_o the_o say_n of_o tertullian_n austin_n theophilact_fw-mi luther_n calvin_n ball_n 6._o art_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n pag._n 93_o to_o 97._o grant_v mr._n will_n answer_v &_o grant_v all_o which_o our_o antagonist_n full_o grant_v with_o our_o foresay_a authority_n viz._n that_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n or_o example_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n that_o be_v to_o say_v express_o literal_o and_o sillabical_o p._n 35_o 36_o 32._o and_o that_o scripture_n authority_n be_v necessary_a to_o warrant_v every_o ordinance_n but_o withal_o say_v these_o two_o thing_n viz._n first_o forbid_v 1._o no_o scripture_n forbid_v that_o as_o 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no_o express_a command_n for_o the_o same_o nor_o example_n to_o plunge_v they_o as_o they_o do_v with_o their_o clothes_n on_o pag._n 101._o and_o therefore_o in_o mr._n baxters_n word_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o usual_a civility_n what_o ignorant_a wretch_n we_o be_v to_o call_v for_o express_v word_n of_o scripture_n when_o we_o have_v the_o evident_a consequence_n or_o sense_n and_o be_v scripture_n reason_n say_v he_o no_o scripture_n with_o you_o to_o both_o which_o i_o reply_v first_o first_o reply_v to_o the_o first_o to_o his_o first_o argument_n that_o infant_n baptism_n may_v be_v lawful_a because_o not_o forbid_v in_o the_o scripture_n nor_o no_o where_o tell_v where_o it_o be_v not_o do_v may_v also_o prove_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v bell_n and_o church_n wall_n of_o chrism_n exorcism_n communicate_v infant_n and_o a_o hundred_o other_o invention_n that_o be_v practise_v of_o old_a and_o still_o be_v in_o use_n among_o the_o papist_n neither_o be_v it_o any_o where_o tell_v we_o in_o express_a term_n that_o such_o thing_n be_v not_o practise_v forbid_v what_o not_o command_v in_o worship_n be_v forbid_v but_o this_o we_o have_v clear_a in_o the_o scripture_n and_o and_o which_o be_v to_o be_v a_o rule_n to_o we_o in_o all_o such_o case_n that_o that_o worship_n which_o in_o express_a term_n be_v not_o comman●e●_n be_v express_o forbid_v and_o for_o which_o take_v the_o follow_a scripture_n viz._n col._n 2.20_o 21_o 22._o if_o you_o be_v dead_a with_o christ_n from_o the_o rudiment_n of_o the_o world_n why_o as_o though_o live_v in_o the_o world_n be_v you_o subject_n to_o ordinance_n touch_v not_o taste_v not_o handle_v not_o after_o the_o commandment_n of_o men._n matth._n 15.9_o but_o in_o vain_a do_v they_o worship_v i_o teach_v for_o doctrine_n the_o command●ments_n of_o men._n deut._n 4.2_o you_o shall_v not_o add_v unto_o the_o word_n wh●ch_o i_o command_v you_o neither_o shall_v you_o demtnish_v aught_o from_o it_o that_o you_o may_v keep_v the_o commandment_n of_o the_o lord_n your_o god_n which_o i_o command_v you_o 12.32_o what_o thing_n soever_o i_o command_v you_o observe_v to_o do_v it_o thou_o shall_v not_o add_v thereto_o nor_o diminish_v therefrom_o jer._n 7.31_o and_o they_o have_v build_v the_o high_a place_n etc._n etc._n which_o i_o command_v not_o neither_o come_v it_o into_o my_o heart_n jos_n 1.7_o observe_v to_o do_v according_a to_o all_o the_o law_n which_o moses_n my_o servant_n command_v you_o shall_v not_o turn_v from_o it_o to_o the_o right_a hand_n or_o to_o the_o left_a which_o great_a truth_n be_v well_o assert_v and_o defend_v by_o doctor_n owin_n in_o his_o book_n call_v innocency_n and_o truth_n vindicate_v in_o reply_n to_o doctor_n parker_n park_n dr._n park_n who_o have_v in_o his_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n p._n 189._o say_v with_o mr._n will_n that_o what_o t●e_v scripture_n forbid_v not_o it_o allow_v and_o what_o it_o allow_v be_v not_o unlawful_a and_o what_o be_v not_o unlawful_a may_v lawful_o be_v do_v doctor_n owin_n owin_n dr._n owin_n thus_o answer_v he_o p._n 345._o this_o tale_n i_o confess_v we_o have_v be_v tell_v by_o many_o and_o many_o a_o time_n but_o it_o have_v be_v as_o often_o answer_v that_o the_o whole_a of_o it_o as_o to_o any_o thing_n of_o reason_n be_v captious_a and_o sophistical_a for_o if_o because_o they_o be_v not_o forbid_v they_o may_v lawful_o be_v introduce_v into_o divine_a worship_n than_o ten_o thousand_o thing_n may_v be_v make_v lawful_a but_o the_o truth_n be_v although_o a_o particular_a prohibition_n be_v needful_a to_o render_v a_o thing_n evil_n in_o itself_o a_o general_a prohibition_n be_v enough_o to_o render_v any_o thing_n unlawful_a in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n so_o we_o grant_v that_o what_o be_v not_o forbid_v be_v lawful_a but_o with_o all_o say_v that_o every_o thing_n be_v forbid_v that_o shall_v be_v esteem_v as_o any_o part_n of_o divine_a worship_n that_o be_v not_o command_v and_o therefore_o very_o 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a_o general_a rule_n in_o which_o our_o brethren_n and_o we_o have_v long_o since_o agree_v that_o nothing_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v without_o a_o express_a warrant_n in_o the_o gospel_n rutherford_n mr._n rutherford_n mr._n rutherford_n in_o his_o due_a right_n of_o presbytry_n pag._n 364._o do_v also_o tell_v we_o what_o the_o apostle_n command_v not_o in_o god_n worship_n that_o the_o church_n must_v not_o do_v owin_n dr._n owin_n but_o especial_o doctor_n owin_n in_o his_o communion_n with_o god_n pag._n 169_o 170_o etc._n etc._n say_v thus_o the_o main_a of_o the_o church_n chaste_a and_o choice_a affection_n to_o christ_n lie_v in_o their_o keep_v his_o institution_n and_o his_o worship_n according_a to_o his_o appointment_n the_o breach_n of_o this_o he_o call_v adultery_n and_o whoredom_n every_o where_o he_o be_v a_o jealous_a god_n and_o give_v himself_o the_o title_n only_o in_o
respect_n of_o his_o institution_n and_o the_o whole_a apostasy_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n be_v call_v fornication_n rev._n 17.5_o and_o the_o church_n that_o lead_v the_o other_o into_o false_a worship_n the_o mother_n of_o harlot_n this_o than_o they_o that_o hold_v communion_n with_o christ_n be_v careful_a of_o they_o will_v admit_v of_o nothing_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n private_a or_o public_a but_o what_o they_o have_v his_o warrent_v for_o unless_o it_o come_v in_o his_o name_n with_o thus_o say_v the_o lord_n jesus_n they_o will_v not_o hear_v a_o angel_n from_o heaven_n they_o know_v the_o apostle_n themselves_o be_v to_o teach_v the_o saint_n only_o what_o christ_n command_v they_o math._n 28.20_o worship_n only_o plain_a scripture_n for_o god_n worship_n so_o that_o what_o ever_o venture_v person_n may_v make_v in_o draw_v consiquence_n and_o inferrence_n from_o the_o scripture_n for_o any_o suppose_a truth_n wherein_o great_a care_n and_o caution_n be_v to_o be_v use_v yet_o be_v it_o a_o know_v agree_v rule_n among_o protestant_n that_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n wherein_o so_o much_o sophestry_n have_v be_v use_v to_o introduce_v and_o impose_v not_o only_o ceremony_n about_o worship_n but_o worship_v itself_o from_o old_a testament_n rite_n and_o observation_n nothing_o therein_o as_o worship_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v without_o some_o plain_n and_o express_v word_n by_o precept_n or_o practice_v to_o warrent_v the_o same_o out_o of_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o therefore_o when_o doctor_n parker_n in_o the_o aforesaid_a book_n fall_v so_o foul_a upon_o this_o principle_n with_o intention_n to_o raze_v this_o great_a protestant_a bulwark_n and_o tell_v we_o p._n 171._o that_o the_o very_a mystery_n of_o puratinisme_n lie_v in_o this_o very_a assertion_n viz._n that_o nothing_o aught_o to_o be_v establish_v in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n but_o what_o be_v express_o command_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o that_o it_o be_v a_o vile_a novel_a and_o unreasonable_a principle_n that_o take_v away_o all_o possibility_n of_o settlement_n in_o the_o church_n and_o the_o main_a pretence_n to_o all_o pious_a villainy_n etc._n etc._n you_o have_v doctor_n owin_n pag._n 303._o most_o worthy_o defend_v the_o same_o add_v only_o this_o hereto_o viz._n as_o part_v of_o worship_n and_o which_o he_o maintain_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n reason_n and_o antiquity_n as_o well_o as_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o most_o learned_a protestant_a writer_n doctor_n hamond_n hamond_n dr._n hamond_n himself_o tell_v we_o as_o mr._n tomb_n in_o his_o review_n have_v it_o pag._n 827._o viz._n that_o it_o be_v high_o unreasonable_a that_o a_o institution_n of_o christ_n such_o as_o each_o sacrament_n be_v shall_v be_v judge_v of_o by_o any_o other_o rule_n whether_o the_o fancy_n or_o reason_n of_o man_n but_o either_o the_o word_n wherein_o the_o institution_n be_v set_v down_o or_o the_o record_n of_o the_o 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of_o infant_n baptism_n i_o remember_v not_o allege_v by_o any_o before_o mr._n baxter_n and_o therefore_o beside_o the_o impertinency_n of_o the_o word_n as_o he_o himself_o allege_v they_o i_o see_v no_o need_n to_o search_v further_o into_o it_o review_n 2._o part_n p._n 71._o in_o the_o next_o place_n mr._n will_n tell_v we_o of_o a_o other_o antiquity_n to_o prove_v infant_n baptism_n apostolical_a examine_v iraeneus_n testimony_n examine_v viz._n iraeneus_n who_o in_o lib._n 2._o c._n 39_o advers._fw-la haeres_fw-la tell_v we_o that_o christ_n do_v sanctify_v every_o age_n by_o his_o own_o susception_n of_o it_o and_o similitude_n to_o it_o all_o i_o say_v who_o by_o he_o be_v bear_v again_o to_o god_n whereby_o say_v mr._n will_n we_o infer_v that_o be_v bear_v again_o to_o god_n signify_v baptism_n as_o the_o ancient_n for_o the_o most_o part_n take_v it_o than_o be_v the_o infant_n baptize_v in_o his_o day_n will_n p._n 129._o to_o which_o i_o reply_v that_o if_o this_o be_v any_o more_o to_o the_o purpose_n then_o the_o former_a let_v all_o man_n judge_v and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o far_o fetch_v and_o unnatura_o screw_v without_o either_o reason_n or_o truth_n impertinent_a very_o impertinent_a for_o first_o here_o be_v not_o one_o word_n of_o infant_n baptism_n or_o its_o apostolicalness_n and_o nothing_o but_o a_o impertinent_a beg_a question_n upon_o question_n to_o make_v up_o a_o inference_n second_o the_o interpretation_n upon_o which_o it_o be_v found_v be_v whole_o fallacious_a for_o neither_o the_o scripture_n nor_o justin_n martyr_n do_v call_v baptism_n regeneration_n absolute_o but_o only_o as_o it_o be_v the_o symbol_n of_o regeneration_n already_o wrought_v by_o the_o word_n and_o so_o justins_n word_n b●fore_o import_v and_o that_o only_o respect_v the_o adult_n that_o be_v capable_a thereof_o for_o if_o this_o be_v true_a doctrine_n then_o must_v all_o hypocrite_n and_o wicked_a man_n that_o either_o now_o or_o ever_o be_v baptize_v be_v actual_o thereby_o regenerate_v and_o so_o consequent_o save_v which_o be_v so_o absurd_a and_o ridiculous_a as_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o to_o which_o mr._n tomb_n have_v so_o well_o answer_v mr._n baxter_n in_o his_o three_o review_n pag._n 79._o and_o which_o be_v never_o yet_o reply_v to_o that_o we_o need_v say_v no_o more_o to_o it_o viz._n tomb_n mr._n tomb_n but_o christ_n be_v not_o in_o his_o age_n a_o example_n of_o every_o age_n by_o his_o baptism_n as_o if_o he_o do_v by_o it_o sanctify_v every_o age_n for_o than_o he_o shall_v have_v be_v baptize_v in_o every_o age_n but_o in_o respect_n to_o the_o holiness_n of_o his_o humane_a nature_n which_o do_v remain_v in_o each_o age_n and_o so_o exemplary_o sanctify_v every_o age_n to_o god_n so_o as_o that_o no_o age_n but_o be_v capable_a of_o holiness_n by_o conformity_n to_o his_o example_n now_o if_o the_o meaning_n be_v that_o christ_n come_v to_o save_v all_o that_o be_v baptize_v by_o he_o on_o by_o his_o 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that_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n nor_o practice_v in_o scripture_n for_o paedobaptism_n nor_o any_o just_a evidence_n for_o it_o for_o above_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o may_v it_o not_o be_v very_o well_o conclude_v in_o mr._n baxters_n word_n about_o confirmation_n that_o it_o be_v very_o suspicious_a to_o find_v in_o justin_n martyr_n description_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n practice_v no_o mention_n of_o it_o p._n 128._o so_o neither_o to_o find_v in_o justin_n martyr_n nor_o as_o mr._n tomb_n well_o observe_v the_o least_o of_o it_o in_o eusebius_n ignatius_n clemens_n alexandrinus_n athanasius_n or_o epiphanius_n be_v very_o good_a ground_n to_o conclude_v against_o it_o and_o reproof_n to_o mr._n calvin_n who_o say_v reprove_v mr._n calvin_n and_o mr._n marshal_v just_o reprove_v that_o there_o be_v no_o ancient_a writer_n that_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o original_a
of_o the_o holy_a ordinance_n of_o infant_n baptism_n even_o from_o the_o apostle_n and_o to_o mr._n marshal_v also_o who_o say_v that_o the_o church_n have_v be_v in_o possession_n of_o infant_n baptism_n this_o fiveteen_fw-mi hundred_o year_n and_o that_o no_o one_o authority_n can_v be_v find_v witness_v thereto_o for_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ._n try_v origen_n testimony_n try_v but_o in_o the_o next_o place_n with_o great_a confidence_n say_v mr._n will_n we_o adhear_v to_o origen_n notwithstanding_o the_o frivelous_a cavil_n of_o the_o author_n it_o be_v true_a origen_n be_v the_o authority_n especial_o glory_v in_o as_o be_v so_o positive_a and_o express_v for_o its_o apostolicalness_n as_o it_o be_v mention_v l._n 5._o ad_fw-la rom._n c._n 6._o and_o confirm_v in_o leu._n l._n 8._o hom._n 8._o and_o in_o luke_n hom._n 14._o in_o these_o word_n the_o church_n have_v receive_v a_o tradition_n from_o the_o apostle_n to_o give_v baptism_n to_o child_n who_o have_v 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o very_a same_o as_o jam._n 2.2_o for_o if_o there_o come_v into_o your_o assembly_n a_o man_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v a_o gold_n ring_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o a_o woman_n to_o be_v understand_v also_o thereby_o and_o jam._n 1.8_o a_o double_a mind_a man_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v unstable_a in_o all_o his_o way_n and_o be_v not_o a_o double_a mind_a woman_n so_o also_o we_o may_v trouble_v the_o reader_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o instance_n of_o this_o kind_n but_o let_v these_o satisfy_v so_o that_o sir_n you_o see_v your_o exception_n to_o my_o example_n be_v utter_o insignificant_a for_o here_o be_v woman_n disciple_n and_o believer_n in_o pray_v together_o for_o the_o spirit_n and_o afterward_o receive_v the_o same_o together_o also_o continue_v together_o in_o the_o apostle_n doctrine_n fellowship_n and_o break_v of_o bread_n and_o prayer_n neither_o can_v your_o pretend_a limitation_n of_o masculine_a word_n and_o 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examine_v himself_o and_o so_o let_v he_o eat_v etc._n etc._n v●z_n man_n or_o woman_n for_o so_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o greek_a and●dam_n ●dam_z in_o the_o hebrew_n signify_v there_o be_v one_o mediator_n betwixt_o god_n and_o man_n and_o woman_n the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n 1_o tim._n 2.45_o be_v both_o but_o one_o 〈◊〉_d christ_n gal._n 3.28_o to_o which_o you_o thus_o reply_v you_o gather_v it_o from_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v of_o the_o masculine_a ●nd_n feminine_a gender_n and_o so_o signify_v male_a and_o female_a which_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o i_o must_v crave_v leave_n ●o_o inform_v you_o that_o when_o it_o be_v limit_v with_o word_n ●f_o the_o masculine_a gender_n it_o have_v reference_n express_o ●o_o man_n and_o not_o to_o woman_n and_o that_o it_o be_v so_o here_o ●ou_o say_v you_o shall_v abundant_o prove_v because_o it_o be_v limit_v where_o you_o bring_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d again_o and_o 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believe_v be_v as_o clear_v if_o not_o clear_a that_o what_o have_v be_v give_v for_o woman_n receive_n the_o lord_n supper_n viz._n mat._n 28.9_o go_v teach_v or_o discipulize_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o and_o that_o child_n be_v disciple_n be_v clear_v you_o say_v from_o act._n 15.10_o why_o tempt_v you_o god_n to_o put_v a_o yoke_n upon_o the_o neck_n of_o the_o disciple_n but_o for_o your_o better_a information_n in_o christ_n commission_n i_o must_v refer_v you_o to_o the_o account_n mr._n baxter_n give_v of_o it_o who_o tell_v we_o the_o right_a order_n thereof_o and_o lesson_n therein_o viz._n that_o the_o first_o task_n be_v to_o make_v disciple_n which_o he_o tell_v we_o by_o mark_n be_v call_v believer_n the_o second_o be_v baptise_v they_o and_o the_o three_o to_o teach_v they_o all_o other_o thing_n which_o be_v afterward_o to_o be_v learn_v in_o christ_n school_n which_o be_v a_o right_a and_o true_a definition_n of_o the_o text_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o discipulize_v or_o make_v disciple_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o beget_v they_o to_o the_o faith_n by_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o they_o the_o true_a mean_n thereof_o and_o then_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n they_o be_v to_o be_v baptise_a therein_o and_o therefore_o again_o mr._n baxter_n true_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v the_o constant_a order_n that_o baptism_n follow_v faith_n and_o no_o better_a than_o a_o impious_a profanation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n if_o it_o go_v without_o faith_n and_o that_o if_o faith_n be_v not_o the_o pre-requisite_a to_o baptism_n philip_n delude_v and_o not_o decide_v the_o question_n when_o he_o tell_v the_o eunuch_n if_o he_o believe_v with_o all_o his_o heart_n he_o may_v so_o that_o when_o you_o can_v make_v it_o appear_v your_o infant_n as_o a_o teach_v disciple_n believe_v in_o christ_n you_o may_v find_v a_o command_n here_o to_o baptise_v he_o otherwise_o as_o mr._n baxter_n tell_v we_o philip_n answer_n carry_v a_o 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say_v he_o be_v false_a for_o he_o himself_o add_v the_o word_n only_o as_o be_v show_v he_o say_v ch_z 7._o part_n 1._o p._n 2._o charge_v 3._o falshood_n charge_v where_o he_o again_o repeat_v it_o say_v that_o the_o magdeburg_n in_o century_n 1._o l._n 2._o c._n 6._o p._n 496._o do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n baptize_v only_o the_o adult_n and_o again_o in_o his_o pag._n 38._o mention_v my_o repetition_n of_o that_o aforesaid_a say_n of_o the_o magdeburg_n give_v the_o follow_a return_n very_o good_a sir_n now_o you_o have_v learned_a to_o set_v down_o thing_n right_a but_o why_o do_v you_o say_v in_o the_o 56._o of_o the_o first_o impression_n that_o the_o magdeburg_n as_o to_o the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n tell_v we_o that_o in_o this_o age_n they_o only_o baptize_v the_o adult_n be_v this_o say_v he_o lapsus_fw-la calami_fw-la aut_fw-la mentis_fw-la the_o slip_n of_o the_o tongue_n or_o the_o mind_n answer_v ∣_o ed._n 1_o to_o which_o i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v most_o 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2.8_o 10_o 16_o 19_o de_fw-fr infantibus_fw-la baptizatis_fw-la quidem_fw-la anotata_fw-la nom_fw-fr leguntur_fw-la that_o example_n testify_v from_o the_o aforesaid_a scripture_n that_o the_o adult_n both_o jew_n and_o gentile_n be_v baptize_v but_o of_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n they_o read_v not_o of_o one_o example_n upon_o record_n so_o that_o if_o they_o find_v many_o example_n for_o the_o one_o and_o none_o for_o the_o other_o well_o it_o may_v be_v say_v they_o find_v example_n only_o for_o the_o one_o viz._n for_o the_o adult●_n answer_v ∣_o ed._n two_o for_o they_o be_v not_o my_o translation_n of_o the_o word_n and_o therefore_o i_o add_v not_o the_o word_n only_a to_o they_o as_o he_o false_o suggest_v but_o my_o fence_n upon_o those_o their_o word_n and_o no_o other_o than_o i_o presume_v every_o one_o will_v give_v and_o wherein_o his_o shameful_a oscitancy_n as_o he_o call_v it_o or_o heedlessness_n be_v the_o more_o to_o be_v remark_v for_o he_o himself_o in_o his_o first_o word_n of_o the_o 7._o chap._n 1._o part_n do_v repeat_v my_o word_n as_o i_o express_v they_o viz._n that_o they_o find_v only_o the_o adult_n or_o age_a whether_o jew_n or_o gentile_n baptize_v in_o that_o century_n and_o afterward_o charge_v i_o three_o time_n over_o with_o the_o say_n a_o other_o thing_n inculcate_v it_o with_o many_o agrivate_a circumstance_n and_o as_o worthy_a of_o the_o great_a observation_n put_v it_o in_o the_o van_n of_o the_o falsehood_n and_o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o thing_n that_o i_o meet_v with_o from_o a_o friend_n that_o be_v in_o his_o bookseller_n shop_n where_o some_o minister_n be_v hear_v to_o say_v upon_o the_o read_n thereof_o that_o i_o want_v morality_n in_o so_o deal_v with_o author_n though_o true_o if_o i_o have_v say_v the_o word_n i_o do_v no_o know_v where_o such_o a_o heinous_a crime_n have_v lie_v so_o that_o this_o be_v plain_a to_o you_o that_o first_o i_o neither_o say_v those_o word_n nor_o second_o do_v i_o 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by_o dip_v in_o these_o word_n viz._n ministrum_fw-la baptismi_fw-la in_o aquam_fw-la baptizandos_fw-la immersisse_fw-la seu_fw-la lavasse_fw-la in_fw-la nomine_fw-la patri_fw-la &_o filii_fw-la &_o spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la probat_fw-la verbum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la immersionem_fw-la in_o aquam_fw-la significat_fw-la &_o quoth_v paulus_n immersionem_fw-la illam_fw-la allegorice_n de_fw-fr mortificatione_n &_o resurrectione_n exponit_fw-la rom._n 6._o col._n 2._o et_fw-la phrase_n ille_fw-la quibus_fw-la baptismus_fw-la lavacrum_fw-la dicitur_fw-la eph._n 5_o &_o titus_n 3_o et_fw-la quod_fw-la ananias_n jubet_fw-la paulum_fw-la abluere_fw-la peccatum_fw-la act._n 22._o etc._n etc._n that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v a_o immersion_n or_o dip_v in_o water_n prove_v that_o the_o minister_n of_o baptism_n do_v dip_v or_o immerge_n the_o baptise_a wash_v they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n and_o that_o 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that_o they_o baptise_a infant_n in_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n by_o gregory_n nazienzen_v absolute_a determination_n to_o baptise_v infant_n answer_v ∣_o ed._n 6_o to_o which_o i_o reply_v that_o i_o do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o magdeburg_n do_v say_v in_o so_o many_o word_n that_o it_o be_v the_o universal_a practice_n of_o this_o age_n to_o baptise_v the_o adult_n upon_o profession_n of_o faith_n as_o he_o will_v insinuate_v but_o as_o you_o will_v find_v my_o word_n to_o be_v as_o pag._n 55._o that_o from_o the_o several_a authority_n they_o give_v we_o out_o of_o the_o learned_a father_n and_o counsel_n they_o tell_v we_o so_o viz._n by_o the_o instance_n they_o do_v produce_v and_o which_o i_o have_v before_o at_o large_a demonstrate_v so_o that_o at_o least_o wise_a i_o judge_v i_o have_v cause_n to_o think_v so_o and_o as_o to_o the_o two_o instance_n he_o give_v to_o detect_v my_o forgery_n they_o signify_v nothing_o as_o to_o that_o of_o gregory_n nazienzen_n we_o have_v say_v enough_o already_o to_o which_o we_o refer_v you_o and_o which_o will_v substantia_o acquit_v i_o from_o this_o charge_n and_o second_o as_o to_o that_o of_o athanasius_n question_n to_o antiochus_n prove_v that_o they_o baptise_a infant_n in_o the_o african_a church_n particular_o the_o 124._o question_v which_o he_o mention_n pag._n 10._o ch_n 7.1_o part_v i_o shall_v show_v you_o present_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a piece_n of_o forgery_n and_o no_o truth_n at_o all_o in_o it_o and_o which_o mr._n will_n can_v not_o well_o be_v ignorant_a of_o though_o he_o will_v thus_o abuse_v the_o world_n with_o this_o story_n but_o he_o shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v tell_v you_o what_o that_o 124._o question_n be_v that_o he_o so_o much_o brag_n of_o which_o i_o perceive_v he_o be_v unwilling_a to_o do_v upon_o another_o score_n lest_o his_o instance_n may_v do_v he_o more_o hurt_v then_o good_a though_o the_o 114_o he_o mention_n at_o large_a the_o thing_n express_v therein_o as_o 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witness_n you_o have_v doctor_n barlow_n barlow_n dr._n barlow_n tell_v we_o that_o tertullian_n dislike_v and_o condemn_v infant_n baptism_n as_o unwarrentable_a and_o irrational_a daille_n daille_n daille_n also_o tell_v we_o as_o you_o have_v it_o pag._n 149._o that_o tertullian_n be_v of_o a_o opinion_n that_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v scultet_fw-la scultet_fw-la and_o scultetus_n also_o in_o his_o medul_n pat._n lib._n 7._o cap._n 42._o pag._n 1._o tell_v we_o that_o tertullian_n in_o his_o book_n of_o baptism_n affirm_v that_o they_o only_o shall_v be_v baptize_v that_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o christ_n magdeb._n magdeb._n the_o magdeb._n do_v also_o tell_v we_o p._n 52._o that_o he_o be_v only_o for_o adult_n baptism_n and_o oppose_v himself_o to_o those_o that_o affirm_v otherwise_o rhenanus_fw-la beatus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la beatus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la in_o his_o annotation_n upon_o tertullian_n say_v that_o those_o that_o be_v come_v to_o 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