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A05217 A reflection of certaine authors that are pretended to disauow the churches infallibilitie in her generall decrees of faith. By F.E. Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640? 1635 (1635) STC 15351; ESTC S106826 115,644 246

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the_o donatist_n except_v against_o a_o council_n because_o it_o have_v in_o it_o register_v the_o day_n and_o the_o consul_n 15._o consul_n etiam_fw-la hinc_fw-la gestis_fw-la ipsis_fw-la cirtensibus_fw-la calumniabantur_fw-la quia_fw-la ibi_fw-la dies_fw-la &_o consules_a legebantur_fw-la &_o exigebant_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la ut_fw-la aliqua_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la concilia_fw-la proferremus_fw-la ubi_fw-la dies_fw-la recitarentur_fw-la &_o consules_a etc._n etc._n etiam_fw-la hoc_fw-la exigebant_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la scripture_n sanctis_fw-la ostenderemus_fw-la alicubi_fw-la dies_fw-la &_o consules_a esse_fw-la conscriptos_fw-la quasi_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concilia_fw-la scripture_n
canonicis_fw-la aliquando_fw-la fuerint_fw-la comparata_fw-la aut_fw-la possunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipsi_fw-la de_fw-la scripture_n sanctis_fw-la proffer_v concilium_fw-la ubi_fw-la apostoli_fw-la iudices_fw-la sederint_fw-la &_o accusatum_fw-la aliquem_fw-la damnaverint_fw-la vel_fw-la absoluerint_fw-la et_fw-la tamen_fw-la respondebimus_fw-la eye_n etiam_fw-la prophetas_fw-la libros_fw-la praenotatis_fw-la &_o definitis_fw-la commendasse_fw-la temporibus_fw-la quo_fw-la anno_fw-la cvius_fw-la regis_fw-la etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n li._n cont_n donatist_n post_fw-la collat._n c._n 15._o require_v of_o the_o catholic_n to_o show_v any_o where_o out_o of_o scripture_n where_o the_o day_n and_o consul_n be_v register_v and_o enroll_v whereunto_o s._n augustine_n answer_v that_o counsel_n be_v not_o parallel_v with_o scripture_n the_o one_o to_o wit_n the_o council_n may_v do_v well_o in_o register_n both_o day_n and_o consul_n though_o the_o other_o do_v not_o so_o or_o they_o may_v be_v 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authoritatis_fw-la veritate_fw-la firmatum_fw-la establish_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o truth_n and_o truth_n of_o authority_n and_o contrariwise_o of_o the_o other_o that_o there_o be_v multi_fw-la paucorum_fw-la fraud_n decepti_fw-la many_o deceive_v by_o the_o fraud_n or_o circumuention_n of_o a_o few_o whereby_o heretical_a impiety_n endeavour_v to_o weaken_v what_o the_o catholic_a father_n in_o the_o power_n of_o truth_n and_o authority_n have_v establish_v aug._n sed_fw-la nunc_fw-la nec_fw-la ego_fw-la nicenun_n nec_fw-la tu_fw-la debes_fw-la ariminense_n tanquam_fw-la praeiudicaturus_fw-la proffer_v concilium_fw-la nec_fw-la ego_fw-la huius_fw-la authoritate_fw-la nec_fw-la tu_fw-la illius_fw-la detineris_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la authoritatibus_fw-la non_fw-la quorumque_fw-la proprijs_fw-la sed_fw-la utrisque_fw-la communibus_fw-la testibus_fw-la &c_n &c_n baro_n p._n 337._o ex_fw-la aug._n have_v i_o say_v mention_v these_o two_o counsel_n he_o forbear_v to_o urge_v his_o 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mihi_fw-la catholicorum_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la qui_fw-la iubent_fw-la mihi_fw-la ut_fw-la tibi_fw-la non_fw-la credam_fw-la qua_fw-la infirmata_fw-la iam_fw-la nec_fw-la euangelio_fw-la credere_fw-la potero_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la absit_fw-la ut_fw-la ego_fw-la euangelio_fw-la non_fw-la credam_fw-la ibidem_fw-la scholar_n but_o it_o prove_v a_o mere_a brag_n §._o x._o 1._o optatus_n cite_v his_o adversary_n who_o refuse_v to_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o church_n to_o be_v try_v by_o the_o testament_n admit_v by_o themselves_o but_o the_o cause_n itself_o be_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_a world_n to_o be_v decide_v in_o a_o council_n and_o be_v in_o fine_a so_o determine_v 2._o for_o find_v out_o the_o truth_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n recourse_n be_v to_o be_v make_v to_o the_o fountain_n vos_fw-fr dicitis_fw-la licet_fw-la nos_fw-la non_fw-la licet_fw-la inter_fw-la licet_fw-la vestrum_fw-la &_o non_fw-la licet_fw-la nostrum_fw-la nutant_fw-la 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by_o occasion_n of_o your_o discourse_n in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n six_o hundred_o father_n together_o acknowledge_v divine_a assistance_n to_o the_o nicene_n so_o far_o that_o the_o decree_n they_o say_v can_v not_o be_v retract_v without_o 1._o without_o si_fw-mi ergo_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sanctus_n consedit_fw-la patribus_fw-la ut_fw-la manifest_a consedit_fw-la &_o ordinavit_fw-la que_fw-la ordinata_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la retractat_fw-la ea_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la cassat_fw-la gratiam_fw-la sancta_fw-la synodus_fw-la dixit_fw-la omnes_fw-la haec_fw-la dicimus_fw-la anathema_n qui_fw-la retractat_fw-la conc._n chalced._n acti_fw-la 1._o make_v void_a the_o grace_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o other_o accord_o say_v they_o be_v 39_o be_v s._n leo_n epist_n 53._o &_o 54._o vide_fw-la etiam_fw-la s._n aug._n li._n 6._o de_fw-fr bapt._n c._n 39_o divine_o ordain_v gratian._n ordain_v si_fw-mi quis_fw-la fidem_fw-la illam_fw-la à_fw-la sancta_fw-la &_o 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the_o decree_n of_o which_o ibidem_fw-la which_o li._n 1_o rege_v epist_n 24._o quintum_fw-la quoque_fw-la concilium_fw-la pariter_fw-la ve●eror_fw-la ibidem_fw-la s._n gregory_n our_o apostle_n do_v honour_n as_o the_o gospel_n and_o so_o also_o to_o the_o rest_n by_o virtue_n of_o one_o and_o the_o same_o promise_n make_v absolute_o to_o the_o church_n upon_o which_o promise_n that_o also_o of_o the_o apostle_n do_v rely_v as_o before_o have_v be_v observe_v moreover_o the_o father_n hold_v that_o the_o definition_n of_o ecumenical_a counsel_n may_v not_o be_v call_v into_o sententiam_fw-la into_o conc._n chalc._n acti_fw-la 1._o anathema_n ●●qui_fw-la re●ractat_fw-la de_fw-fr rebus_fw-la apud_fw-la nicaean_a &_o apud_fw-la chalcedonam_fw-la definitis_fw-la nullum_fw-la audemus_fw-la inire_fw-la tractatum_fw-la tanquam_fw-la dubia_fw-la vel_fw-la infirma_fw-la sint_fw-la quae_fw-la tanta_fw-la per_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la fixit_fw-la authoritas_fw-la s._n leo_n epist_n 78._o ubi_fw-la plura_fw-la in_o eandem_fw-la sententiam_fw-la doubt_n that_o they_o be_v rather_o to_o loose_v their_o luciferian_n their_o s._n ambros_n epist_n 32._o s._n hier._n contra_fw-la luciferian_n life_n then_o to_o deny_v they_o that_o those_o who_o do_v oppugn_v they_o be_v ibidem_fw-la be_v nullo_n modo_fw-la fieri_fw-la potest_fw-la ut_fw-la q●i_fw-la divinis_fw-la ardent_a contradicere_fw-la sacramentis_fw-la aliqua_fw-la nobis_fw-la communio●e_fw-la socientur_fw-la s._n epist_n 78._o pat●facientes_n in_o omnibus_fw-la &_o probantes_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la omnino_fw-la inter_fw-la catholicos_fw-la computandos_fw-mi qui_fw-la definitiones_fw-la venerabilis_fw-la synodi_fw-la nicenae_n vel_fw-la sancti_fw-la chalcedonensis_n concilij_fw-la regulas_fw-la non_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la ibidem_fw-la not_o catholic_n but_o 41._o but_o s._n august_n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la nu_fw-la 69._o s._n basil_n epist_n 78._o s._n athanas_n epist_n ad_fw-la epict._n vincent_n lyri_fw-la c._n 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