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aught_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o true_a protestant_n to_o be_v condemn_v for_o a_o pagan_a and_o infidel_n who_o will_v not_o submit_v his_o soul_n to_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n 5._o the_o puritan_n blasphemous_o pronounce_v and_o ignorant_o defend_v that_o christ_n suffer_v the_o pain_n of_o hell_n upon_o the_o cross_n and_o that_o in_o his_o passionall_a agony_n and_o agonize_a grief_n do_v principal_o consist_v the_o satisfaction_n of_o christ_n for_o the_o redemption_n of_o man_n from_o those_o eternal_a torment_n of_o hell_n and_o think_v you_o this_o be_v a_o trifle_n a_o rite_n or_o ceremony_n this_o faith_n the_o puritan_n profess_v this_o blaspheny_v the_o protestant_n detest_v 6._o the_o descension_n of_o christ_n to_o hell_n be_v no_o doubt_n but_o a_o trifle_n a_o ceremony_n a_o matter_n of_o small_a importance_n it_o be_v but_o a_o article_n of_o our_o creed_n and_o yet_o this_o article_n the_o puritan_n real_o deny_v the_o which_o all_o protestant_n steadfast_o believe_v 7._o that_o the_o second_o person_n in_o trinity_n receive_v his_o divinity_n from_o his_o father_n be_v but_o a_o trifle_n a_o point_n not_o much_o material_a to_o our_o belief_n &_o yet_o this_o be_v deny_v the_o mystery_n of_o the_o holy_a trinity_n can_v not_o be_v believe_v for_o it_o absolute_o take_v away_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o son_n and_o consequent_o the_o admirable_a procession_n of_o the_o sâ—cond_o person_n and_o so_o over_o throw_v all_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o trinity_n this_o principal_a part_n of_o christianity_n protestant_n approve_v and_o puritan_n improove_v 8._o jomit_v here_o many_o more_o petty_a difference_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n the_o which_o be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v they_o condemn_v one_o a_o other_o not_o only_o in_o accident_n and_o ceremony_n but_o also_o in_o the_o substance_n and_o principal_a part_n of_o religion_n as_o in_o that_o the_o precisian_n deny_v that_o in_o baptism_n our_o sin_n be_v remit_v but_o only_o take_v it_o for_o a_o seal_n of_o that_o grace_n god_n give_v they_o by_o his_o eternal_a election_n that_o protestant_n confess_v that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n we_o be_v wash_v by_o god_n spirit_n from_o original_a sin_n 9_o the_o puritan_n condemn_v the_o communion_n book_n as_o irreligious_a and_o erroneous_a the_o protestant_n commend_v it_o as_o orthodoxal_a and_o religious_a 10._o the_o protestant_n use_v the_o cosse_n in_o baptism_n as_o a_o holy_a sign_n fit_a for_o the_o profession_n of_o christ_n his_o faith_n and_o religion_n the_o puritan_n exclaim_v against_o it_o as_o a_o humane_a invention_n anda_fw-fr point_n of_o superstition_n 11._o protestant_n defend_v that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n in_o confirmation_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o the_o favour_n and_o goodness_n of_o god_n towards_o they_o the_o puritan_n avouch_v that_o this_o be_v a_o flat_a lie_n and_o that_o they_o testify_v therein_o that_o do_v that_o he_o never_o do_v 12._o the_o protestant_n in_o fine_a will_v 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