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and_o say_v 6._o nec_fw-la in_o scripture_n nec_fw-la in_o antiquis_fw-la
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the_o command_n this_o do_v refer_v to_o but_o to_o the_o whole_a sacramental_a action_n before_o mention_v the_o receive_n and_o eat_v which_o belong_v also_o to_o the_o laity_n as_o well_o as_o the_o blessing_n and_o consecrate_v which_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o priest_n only_o and_o if_o the_o word_n be_v not_o so_o understand_v there_o will_v be_v no_o command_n of_o our_o saviour_n oblige_v the_o laity_n to_o be_v partaker_n of_o this_o sacrament_n at_o all_o but_o the_o priest_n may_v be_v always_o leave_v to_o consecrate_v it_o and_o eat_v it_o themselves_o as_o contrary_a to_o all_o primitive_a practice_n and_o many_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n they_o nowadays_o for_o the_o most_o part_n do_v nay_o further_o they_o will_v be_v under_o no_o obligation_n to_o partake_v of_o it_o but_o only_o to_o bless_v and_o consecrate_v it_o and_o so_o if_o this_o interpretation_n take_v place_n the_o whole_a institution_n may_v become_v frustrate_a thereby_o and_o the_o law_n of_o our_o saviour_n be_v absolute_o make_v of_o none_o effect_v for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o tradition_n and_o invention_n of_o men._n and_o therefore_o estius_n a_o eminent_a doctor_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n 〈…〉_z plain_o acknowledge_v that_o this_o command_n of_o our_o saviour_n this_o do_v in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o must_v extend_v to_o all_o the_o people_n his_o word_n be_v 11._o paulus_n 1_o cor._n 11._o illud_fw-la facere_fw-la etiam_fw-la ad_fw-la plebem_fw-la refert_fw-la edentem_fw-la &_o bibentem_fw-la de_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacramento_n quando_fw-la ait_fw-la hoc_fw-la facite_fw-la i.e._n paul_n in_o the_o eleven_o chapter_n of_o his_o first_o epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n plain_o refer_v that_o of_o do_v to_o the_o people_n eat_v and_o drink_v of_o this_o sacrament_n when_o he_o say_v in_o the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n ver_fw-la 25._o this_o do_v etc._n etc._n and_o to_o say_v otherwise_o will_v be_v to_o run_v counter_a to_o all_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v none_o of_o they_o for_o many_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n that_o ever_o understand_v those_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o that_o sense_n which_o now_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v have_v but_o always_o look_v on_o they_o as_o a_o general_a precept_n belong_v to_o all_o christian_n of_o observe_v that_o holy_a rite_n in_o remembrance_n of_o his_o death_n and_o passion_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o be_v then_o institute_v by_o he_o but_o when_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o half_a communion_n become_v to_o be_v general_o receive_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n than_o the_o schoolman_n be_v put_v to_o their_o shift_n to_o reconcile_v it_o with_o the_o institution_n of_o our_o saviour_n who_o himself_o celebrate_v it_o and_o also_o command_v the_o celebration_n of_o it_o in_o both_o kind_n at_o last_o light_v on_o this_o fetch_n of_o make_v the_o apostle_n priest_n by_o these_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n this_o do_v in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o 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of_o sacrilege_n to_o be_v reiterated_a on_o any_o or_o else_o that_o the_o last_o say_n of_o those_o word_n as_o well_o as_o the_o first_o do_v both_o equal_o concur_v to_o the_o confer_v of_o that_o office_n upon_o they_o and_o consequent_o that_o they_o be_v not_o make_v perfect_a priest_n till_o the_o ordination_n be_v complete_v by_o the_o last_o say_n of_o they_o after_o the_o cup_n be_v administer_v which_o clear_o overthrow_v their_o whole_a hypothesis_n 2._o our_o saviour_n be_v so_o far_o from_o make_v his_o apostle_n priest_n of_o the_o new_a covenant_n at_o his_o last_o supper_n that_o nothing_o can_v be_v a_o great_a mistake_n than_o to_o suppose_v that_o he_o shall_v at_o all_o ordain_v any_o such_o before_o he_o have_v actual_o by_o his_o death_n and_o passion_n purchase_v and_o establish_v that_o church_n wherein_o they_o be_v to_o minister_v our_o saviour_n indeed_o at_o his_o first_o choose_v of_o they_o to_o be_v always_o with_o he_o design_v they_o for_o this_o office_n and_o all_o along_o the_o time_n of_o his_o ministry_n here_o on_o earth_n teach_v they_o and_o instruct_v they_o in_o order_n thereunto_o and_o so_o also_o a_o heir_n expectant_a of_o a_o crown_n may_v design_v some_o of_o his_o follower_n to_o be_v his_o officer_n and_o minister_n of_o state_n in_o his_o kingdom_n but_o can_v actual_o constitute_v they_o as_o such_o till_o he_o himself_o be_v actual_o possess_v of_o the_o sovereign_a power_n to_o enable_v he_o thereto_o neither_o can_v our_o saviour_n be_v say_v actual_o to_o have_v invest_v his_o apostle_n with_o the_o office_n he_o design_v they_o for_o till_o he_o have_v actual_o possess_v himself_o of_o that_o kingdom_n his_o church_n in_o which_o they_o be_v to_o minister_v before_o he_o and_o thereby_o receive_v that_o power_n which_o he_o be_v to_o delegate_v to_o they_o which_o can_v be_v say_v till_o after_o his_o death_n and_o passion_n for_o till_o then_o the_o christian_a church_n itself_o can_v not_o have_v any_o be_v that_o be_v the_o act_n of_o redemption_n whereby_o our_o saviour_n first_o purchase_v it_o to_o himself_o and_o lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o its_o establishment_n and_o all_o the_o whole_a oeconomy_n thereof_o bear_v reference_n thereto_o and_o total_o commence_v from_o it_o till_o then_o the_o former_a oeconomy_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n remain_v in_o its_o full_a force_n for_o the_o sacrifice_n and_o ceremony_n of_o it_o in_o which_o it_o do_v consist_v be_v all_o type_n of_o that_o great_a and_o true_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n of_o our_o saviour_n whereby_o the_o work_n of_o our_o redemption_n be_v wrought_v and_o appoint_v to_o prefigure_v and_o foreshow_v it_o till_o that_o sacrifice_n itself_o shall_v be_v actual_o offer_v once_o for_o all_o till_o that_o be_v do_v it_o be_v necessary_o to_o continue_v in_o its_o full_a obligation_n to_o all_o those_o observance_n and_o therefore_o our_o saviour_n himself_o even_o to_o the_o time_n of_o his_o death_n pay_v full_a obedience_n to_o they_o but_o when_o that_o sacrifice_n be_v actual_o offer_v and_o our_o saviour_n give_v himself_o up_o unto_o death_n upon_o the_o cross_n to_o be_v a_o propitiation_n for_o we_o and_o thereby_o complete_v that_o great_a work_n of_o our_o salvation_n for_o which_o he_o come_v among_o we_o than_o all_o the_o type_n cease_v at_o the_o fulfil_n of_o the_o thing_n typify_v all_o those_o shadow_n of_o good_a thing_n to_o come_v total_o vanish_v at_o the_o appearance_n of_o the_o thing_n themselves_o which_o they_o foreshow_v and_o the_o whole_a law_n become_v fulfil_v thereby_o and_o all_o the_o intent_n and_o meaning_n thereof_o total_o accomplish_v and_o therefore_o by_o this_o great_a work_n of_o our_o salvation_n the_o whole_a jewish_a oeconomy_n receive_v its_o completion_n and_o all_o the_o legal_a institution_n thereof_o absolute_o cease_v by_o be_v fulfil_v matth._n 5._o v._n 17._o thenceforth_o the_o christian_a succeed_v in_o its_o stead_n that_o church_n that_o kingdom_n of_o our_o saviour_n which_o by_o this_o his_o bloodshedding_n he_o purchase_v to_o himself_o and_o therefore_o from_o that_o time_n be_v full_o invest_v with_o the_o whole_a sovereignty_n over_o the_o church_n of_o god_n he_o tell_v his_o holy_a apostle_n that_o 18._o all_o power_n be_v give_v unto_o he_o in_o heaven_n and_o in_o earth_n in_o the_o explication_n of_o which_o word_n maldonat_a the_o jesuit_n tell_v we_o 18._o loquor_fw-la hic_fw-la non_fw-la de_fw-la qualibet_fw-la potestate_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-la eà _fw-la quam_fw-la apostolis_n dabat_fw-la i._n e._n de_fw-fr potestate_fw-la regni_fw-la svi_fw-la spiritualis_fw-la acquirendi_fw-la colligendique_fw-la quam_fw-la ad_fw-la rem_fw-la apostolos_fw-la mittebat_fw-la &_o ita_fw-la loquor_fw-la quasi_fw-la eam_fw-la potestatem_fw-la ante_fw-la resurrectionem_fw-la non_fw-la habuerit_fw-la nam_fw-la tanquam_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la nova_fw-la dicit_fw-la data_fw-la est_fw-la mihi_fw-la omnis_fw-la potestas_fw-la i._n e._n he_o speak_v not_o of_o every_o power_n but_o only_o of_o that_o which_o he_o give_v his_o apostle_n that_o be_v the_o power_n of_o acquire_v and_o gather_v his_o spiritual_a kingdom_n for_o which_o purpose_n he_o send_v his_o apostle_n and_o he_o speak_v so_o as_o if_o he_o have_v not_o that_o power_n before_o his_o resurrection_n for_o he_o say_v as_o of_o a_o thing_n new_o do_v all_o power_n be_v give_v unto_o i_o etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o de_fw-fr eâ_fw-la denique_fw-la loquor_fw-la potestate_fw-la de_fw-la quâ_fw-la apud_fw-la johannem_fw-la dicit_fw-la 33._o confidite_fw-la ego_fw-la vici_fw-la mundum_fw-la hanc_fw-la sibi_fw-la potestatem_fw-la per_fw-la mortem_fw-la &_o resurrectionem_fw-la svam_fw-la datam_fw-la esse_fw-la dicit_fw-la quia_fw-la eam_fw-la meruit_fw-la 10._o propter_fw-la quod_fw-la inquit_fw-la exaltavit_fw-la eum_fw-la &_o dedit_fw-la illi_fw-la nomen_fw-la quod_fw-la esset_fw-la super_fw-la omne_fw-la nomen_fw-la 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