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A13964	The trial of trueth or a treatise vvherein is declared vvho should be iudge betvvene the Reformed Churches, and the Romish in which is shewed, that neither Pope, nor Councels, nor Fathers, nor traditions, nor succession, nor consent, nor antiquitie of custome: but the onely written worde of God, ought to determine the controuersies of religio[n]: wherin also is declared which is the true religion, and Catholick church. Written for the pleasure of the Popes, Cardinalles, prelates, abbots, monkes: and speciallie the Iesuites, which of late were driuen out of Transyluania, by the states there. Published in Latine by a certaine Hungarian, a fauourer of the trueth: and translated into English by Richard Smith.; Oratio de constituendo iudice controversiorum religionis. English.	Smith, Richard, tr.	1591 (1591)	STC 24274; ESTC S100745	49,352	68

bread and wine in the Sacrament doth so remaine and not ceasse as there remaineth in Christ the Lord the nature of man ioyned to the diuine nature Augustine saith that it is rashnesse without plaine and manifest testimonies of the Scriptures to determine on either side matters of Rellgion that are doubtfull Calixtus deliuered the Sacrament to the whole church kept backe notorious wicked persons from it and condemned those which being present did not communicate Cyprian saith that the Christian people were not to be denyed the bloud of their Lord for the confessing of whom they were commaunded to shed their owne bloud Apollo amongest other herestes obrayded Montanus with this that he was the first that had prescribed the people lawes of fasting Paphnutius denied that y e Ministers of the church were to be forbidden mariage And auouched that the mutuall performance of mariage dueties betwéene man and wife was chastitie Cyprian sayd that onely Christ was to bee heard of whom it was said heare him and that it was not to be reregarded what others before vs haue either saide or doone but what Christ who was before all hath commaunded Augustine stoutly maintaineth that the Church ought not to prefer her selfe before Christ because he alwaies iudgeth truely but the Iudges of the Church as being men are oftentimes mistaken Ambrose saide that holy things néeded not golde neither were those things acceptable by meanes of gold which wree not bought with golde Acatius said that our God did neither eat nor drink and that therfore he néeded not cuppes or bowles Spiridion saide that he did therefore fréelye eate fleshe on that day wherin others did abstaine because he was a Christian Augustine saide that it was not lawfull for Monkes to liue at other mens cost although they were dayly occupied in meditations praiers and studies Epiphanius said that it was a horrible abhomination to sée the Image either of Christ or any other painted in the Churches of Christians These and other such bounds of the auncient Fathers sith the Sée of Rome her selfe hath ouer●strided by what right she maye enioyne others to keepe that which she her selfe neglecteth to doo all men may easily iudge Sith therfore neither the Popes neither the councels nor the Fathers can end this dissention is there any at last I pray you vnto whose iudgement we must stand Are they Traditions that must strike the stroke Why by the name of Traditions they must either vnderstand ceremonies or doctrines and as for ceremonies although they be auntient yet if they be either hurtfull or néedlesse and superfluous or repugnant to the woord of God or haue been abrogated at a certain time they are not to be suffered For the Lord giueth expresse commaundement that men woorship him not with doctrines deuised by mens braines and as for the traditions that are doctrinall they must either containe in them the written word of God it selfe Créedes and expositions gathered by necessary collection out of the foundations of the scriptures against Heretickes or else those things which either directly or indirectly are either put to or taken from the word of God If you meane the former who will not receyue such traditions If the later who may not without any breach of Godlines reiect them And how much Traditions doe auaile to appease and ceasse the contentions of the Church olde Stories doe plainly shew For when as in the most auncient times there arose a sturre in the Church concerning the feast of Easter with so great a doo that the whole world was shaken therewith both sides had recourse to the traditions of the Apostles which are not expressed in any certain Booke But when each side alleadged that they kepte the feaste of Easter on that time which was appointed by tradition of the Apostles the matter grew to this passe in the end that there was a flat fréedome for the Church in all such manner of matters vntill tiranny preuailed Loe what force traditions haue to determine the controuersies of Religion Will miracles then make manifest which is the better cause or the Catholick church Why the vse of miracles is now ceased For there is not now any new Eospell or new doctrine broached but that which Christ and the Apostles haue already confirmed with miracles and wonders Againe we doe not reade that all those that restored and as it were reformed Religion were famous for their myracles In the which number Iohn Baptist Asaph Ethan Iedithun Heman Core and other Prophets are to be reckonned Moreouer except the gift of miracles be lefte to the wise disposition of God they cannot confirme any doctrine For it is manifest that the miracles of Christ which otherwise were full of power did either nothing at all or very litle further the obstinate Iewes to faith and Godly nesse Finally how could miracles be necessarie signes of true Religion of themselues when as it is manifest that Antichrist and false Prophets shall excell with many miracles wherefore those miracle-mongers ought themselues to be taken for miracles and wounders who when the date and vse of miracles is past doe yet require miracles although the true doctrine is not euen at this day altogether destitude of great miracles What then can the perpetuall and continuall succession of the Bishops of Rome serue to discerne betwéene true and false Religion Surely no man will deny that there is one succession of true doctrine and another of persons wherefore if the succession of Persons be ioyned with the succession of the Prophets and Apostles doctrine it is manifest doublesse that the weight thereof is not small For in this sense the Fathers did alleage succession against the Hereticks For he that professeth the same doctrine saith Nezianzen is partaker of the same chaire also but hee that holdeth a contrarie doctrine ought not to bee counted a Successour and truely this later hath the name in déede but that former hath the trueth of succession Except perhaps a man call it succession in that sence that we say sicknesse succéedeth health light darknesse a storme fayre weather madnesse reason dregges wine and in a word Nero Augustus or Cambyses Cyrus Sith therfore the succession of the Prophets and Apostles doctrine was broken off long agoe in the popish Church surely the ordinarie continuance of Pope after Pope is of no force to shew which is the true religion But it may be they will demaund of the Gospellers the time and person wherein the succession of doctrine was altered Unto this the Gospellers answere that the Popes of Rome are to be distinguished into thrée especiall rankes or companies For they deny not that from Linus to Milchiades there were one and thirtie true Pastours of them in number who laboured in the Lords haruest euen vnto martirdome and therefore may well be called Starres in the right hand of

Christ But from Sluester the first vnto Sabinianus Thuscus there were thrée and thirtie mytired Bishops who although they were not the woorst yet by traditions and constitutions they prepared a seate for the great Antichrist All the rest euen vnto this present Pope they call Antichrists yet so that nine and thirtie of them from Boniface the third and fourth vnto Leo the fourth are reckoned to be in the Kingdome of the great beast one and thirtie of them from Iohn the eight to Iohn the eightéenth are numbred in the Kingdome of the great whore nine and thirtie of them vntill the time of Celestine the fourth belong to the Kingdome of the Dragon And from Innocentius the fourth vntill the present Pope that now is about threescore and foure of them are counted in the Kingdome of Locusts according to the order of the Prophecie which God would haue to be expressely set downe concerning the Kingdome of Antichrist Loe what force and authoritie succession hath Will agreement then in publick doctrine and outward woorship shew which is indéed the catholicke Church why if méer agréement did proue the true Church doubtles neyther the Iewes nor the Turkes nor Hereticks or Heathen of any other such litter would be kept out from the title of the true Church sith we sée that euen they also doo marueloustie agrée amongst themselues And we sée that oftentimes great men in the church haue fallen into hoat contentions amongst themselues Between Barnabas and Paule there arose such strife that they brake of companye one from another So Peter of Alexandria and Meletius so Epiphanius and Chrisostome so Ierome Augustine and Ruffinus So finally Cyrill Iohn of Antioch and Theodoret were at open variance and iarres one with another And in déed Clemens Alexandrinus writeth that the Iewes did vpbraid the Christians with their dissentions amongst themselues By all which it is moore cleare than the noone dayes that as a bare agréement and vnitie cannot prooue the truth of Religion so neither doe all dissentions proue a Religion to be false so that the foundation be not broken by the discorde Can the common Custome then of many ages direct vs where to séeke the true church Nay but God hath forbidden the faithful to suffer his euerlasting truth to be ouer ruled by any compasse of yeares any custome or at a word by any conspiracie of the whole world So Noye with his small family when he sawe that the whole world had conspired and agréed to the same wickednes confirmed by the custome of many ages before past yet chose rather to ioyne with a fewe in the true doctrine of God than to take parte with the whole world in wickednes Shall the Church then decide these controuersies of the Church yea but wee must first seuere the true Church from the Synagogue of the Malignant which can be done by no other meanes but by the word of God Shall then the holie scriptures be Iudge in this controuersie of heires at variance So in déede the Gospellers would haue it For they affirme with Austine Chrisostome and other of the Fathers that all things are contained in the written word of God that might suffice for the saluation of them that beléeue For as Augustine saith in another place To the bookes of the holy Scriptures onlye which are now called canonicall doo we owe this reuerence and honour that we assuredly beléeue that none of the writers therof could erre at all in writing them but as for others we so reade them that how excellent soeuer they be either for holines or learning we doo not therfore think it true because they thought so but because they haue béen able to assure vs therof either by the said Canonicall Scriptures or by probable reason notdisagréeing from the trueth Therfore saith he in an other place to the holy Scriptures alone doo we consent without gainsaying from other writings we may dissent but to the canonicall Scriptures euery man must yéeld euery man must subscribe whether he be Layman or teacher or King or Emperour let him giue place to the holy Scriptures then the which there is nothing in this world set foorth more deuine and more necessary What can be more religious what more cléer then these testimonies of Augustine And if the Gospellers can obtain thus much once that God may be iudge of the controuersies of religion by his woord comprehended in the writings of the Prophets and Apostles why then they doo not stick to admit either councels or Fathers or miracles or other such like for sworne witnesses so that first the true Church be distinguished from the Sinagogue of Sathan Fathers of sound credit from fond fellowes and heretickes lawfull councels from tirannicall couenticles right Bookes from counterfeits true miracles from coyned and forged ones the succession of Doctrine from the disguised succession of persons true agréement from obstinate conspiracie and finally the traditions of the Apostles from the inuentions of men Yea but saith the See of Rome how can this be doone by the written woord of God sith there is no heretick that doth not alleadge the Scriptures for himselfe The Gospellers aunswere that heretickes wresting the the Scriptures cannot be better confuted then by the written word of God which onelie is able to decyde all controuersies For Augustine sayd verie well that we in no case presume to iudge the bookes of the Prophetes and Apostles but y ● by them we iudge all other writtings both of Christians and Paganes So Christ by the Scriptures confuted the Phariseis Sadduces yea and the deuill him selfe 〈…〉 isalledging the Scriptures So Stephen and Apollos confounded the Iewes and Philippe conuinced the Eunuke of Quéene Candace by the Scriptures So the Apostles confirmed the Gospell by the writinges of the Prophetes The Iewes of Berea examined Paules doctrine by the doctrine and writing of the Prophetes So finallie the Councell of Nice cut downe Arrius the Councell of Constantinople Macedonius the Councell of Chalcedone Eutiches the Councell of Ephesus Nestorius Augustine Pelagius Tertullian Praxeas and all the Catholicke authours fanstaticall fellowes with the sword of the word of God Wherfore as Augustine saith let no man in controuersies too proudly obiect the writinges either of Fathers or of Councels bycause we take them not as Canonicall but rather examine them by the Canonicall writinges and that which in thē agréeth with the authoritie of the holy Scriptures we receiue with their commendation that which agréeth not we reiect with their leaue But say they the Scripture is heard darke doubtfull Augustine aunswereth that mē walke farre more safely by the Scriptures then by traditions which being ouershadowed darkned with figuratiue spéechs whē we go about to search out either let that be collected thence which is out of question or if it be in questiō let it be defined by testimonies gottē and

praeter Ho. Dist 4. de consec Can. Non lic●t Dist 17. de cons● Can. Dist 30. ca. 〈◊〉 quis Dist 34. Dist 3. Can. venerabiles The wordes of Augustine Lib. 2. cont don de Bap. cap. 3. lib. 13. cont Alex. Arri. 14. lib. cōt Mist Eccle. con Don. cap. Civil ad Regi nas defide Hieron in Ier. cap. 9. Ambro. in 1. Cor. 4. Gregor Mag. Decret Dist 15. The fathers cā not be iudges of Religion 1. 2. The errours and imperfections of the Fathers Tertullian Cyprian Basille Gregorie Nazianzene Chrisostome Ambrose Jerome Augustine Gregorie The testimonies of the fathers make against the Papistes Ambrose lib. 1. de Abraham cap. 9. Gelasius in concilio Rom. August lib. 2. peccat merit cap. vlt. Calixtus dist 2. d● consecrat Cyprian lib. 1. de cap. Epist 2. Apollo Eccl. hist 〈◊〉 5. cap. 12. Paphnutius Trip. hist lib. 2. cap. 14. Cyprian lib. 2. Epist 2. Augustine Contra Cresco Gnam cap. 2. Ambros. Lib. 2. de off cijs cap. 28. Acatius Tripart Hist Lib 2. cap. 28. Spiridion Tripart Hist Lib. 1. cap. 10. Augustine De oper Monachorum cdp 17. Epiphanius In his Epistle translated by Ierom. That traditions cannot be Iudges of religion Euseb lib. 3. Hist cap. 4. lib. 5. cap. 8 Irenius Lib 3. ca. 14. lib. 1. cap. 2 3. 12. lib. 3. cap. 4. Tertul. in praescrip Heret 2. Cor. 3 12. 1. Cor. 4. Socrat. lib. 5. cap. 22. August ad Casulam Epist 86. Iren. epist ad Victorem Episc Rom. Aug. lib. de vera religione Deut. 13. 2. Thes 2. Aug. quaesi 82. li. de orth●fid cap. 47. Aug. lib. de ciuit Dai. 22. cap. 8. Chrysost 33. in Matth. That the succession of Popes cannot be iudge of religion In orat Maxim Cynicum In orat de Hthanas Thus far reach the words of Natianzens When the succession of doctrine was altered in the popish Church The first rowe of Popes Apoc. 1. The second order of popes The third rank of Popes The fourth company Apoc. 13. The fifth company Apoc. 27. The sixt company Apoc. 20. Apoc. 9. That bare vnitie is not a marke of the true church The falling out of great men in the Church Zozom lib. 1. cap. 16. Socrat lib. a Origen Contra Ceisum Lib. 17. Stromatum That olde custome is no sure marke of the true Church Esa 8. 12. Gen. 7. Heb. 11. How the Church may be iudge That the word of God onely ought to be iudge of Religion ang Tract cap. 11. in 10. ad Hierom. Luk. 16. Joh. 4. Joh. 6. Ioh. 15. Act. 20. Pro. 30. 2. Tim. 3. Esa 8. Chrisost Homil. 41. cap. 22. in Matt. Lib. de-natura grat cap. 61. Contra Fau. li. 11. cap 5. Ad Oros cap 11. Ad paulin Ad Fortunat. lib. 2. coat Crcsc Gram. cap. 32. Ad Vinc. Dou. 48. Hitherto reach the woords of Austin In what sort the Fathers councels and such like are receiued How may the Scriptures be Iudges sith hereticks doo wrest them Ad crescon lib. 2 cap. 31. The wordes of Augustine Matt. 4. 21. Act. 6. 8. 18. Act. 2. Act. 11. See August de Concord Sanct. Epist 163. lib. 3. confess cap. 16. Zozom lib. 2. cap. 3. The verie wordes of Augustine Lib. 2. cap. 32. cont crescon That the holie Scripture is neither hard nor doubtfull The exception of the Church of Rome The replye of the Gospellers That the reformed Church is not heretical Le 1. cap. de Haer. 2. Manich. Ioan. Auent lib. 3. Annalium Glo. Dist 10. c. nulli dist 21. Euseb lib. 5. cap. 26. Lib. Confon fol. 274. col 4. Anton. Flor. hist part 3. cap. 1 §. 3 Can. in fin extrauag de Maiur obedi Who may truely be called the hereticks August lib. d● ciuit Dei 18. cap. 15. Tertul. lib. de prescript haer 2. Per. 2. 1. Tim. 3. 2. Tim. 3. Matt. 18. Nouell 115. §. si quis That the councel of Trent was not a fre and lawfull councell That the Ministers of the reformed church were both extraordinarilie and ordinarilie called That the Protestants doctrine is not new The Church like the moon Gen. 17. 1. Kings 7. Mat. 2. How true doctrine was corrupted That the church was neuer quite destroyed Reasons why the protestants haue departed from the church of Rome Where the Church ha●h been hidd●n so many yeeres Gregorius magnus in regist lib. 4. cap. 8● Ioan. Episc Constant epist 35 ad Maurit Imperat. Io. Auent lib. 7. fol 685. and in the yeere 1240. Eberhard of Sal●●b Ioachim of Calabria Frauncis Petrarch Seuen hundred fourescore and fiue yeeres agoe Lib. consid 2. 3. 4. Barnard Michael Centenas Thomas Rhedon Laurentius Val. lo. Iohn Wickliefe John Hus. Ierome of Prage The triall of Martin Luther The counsell of Gamaliel and of the priests A speech by the way to kings princes to finde out the trueth

the kingdome of heauen This promise of a heauenlie inheritance hath hee enrolled in the publique records of the olde and new testament and committed it to his heires being sealed with the seale of the Sacraments Now he hath annexed to these letters of his will certain conditions as a father to the performance whereof his heires should be bound Now the children falling at variance are deuided to omit the rest into two sides extremelie disagréeing among themselues The one acknowledgeth the Pope for their head and as it were the Executor of the will maker God the other acknowledgeth it not They striue for the possession of the kingdome of heauen and for the right of the true church which each side chalengeth as their due The Plaintife in this case is the Bishoppe of Rome with all those which take parte with the See of Rome The Defendantes are those which receiue not the Bishop of Rome but professe themselues Gospellers and men of the reformed religion Both of them bring their allegations their writings sealed with the kings seale and also their witnesses but both sides kéepe great stirre for the assigning of a Iudge For both desire that he should be appointed Iudge whom they hope would be more fauourable to their cause The Romish See would stande to the iudgement of the Popes traditions councels fathers and miracles and saith that yet neuerthelesse shee doeth not shutte out the worde of God The Gospellers on the other side refuse these Iudges for they alledge that the Pope cannot haue the place both of a partie and a Iudge too especiallie sith hee is charged with so many crimes Traditions they reiect as suspected Iudges and not of sufficient credite And as for Councels Fathers Myracles and succession of persons they say that they admitte them not as Iudges but as sworne witnesses wherein notwithstanding they protest that they wil so far foorth only receiue the authoritie of these witnesses as their euidence shall agrée with the publique déede The Sée of Rome accuseth the Gospellers for let mée with good leaue of both sides vse these termes that are now made common that they haue reuolted frō the true church inuented a new doctrine and newe ceremonies and haue but a fewe yeares since picked this quarrell with her and that therefore the kingdome and claime of heauen doeth belong not to them but to her by the lawe of God The Gospellers replie that they haue departed not from the true Church but from the Sinagogue of the malignant and that they haue not coyned a newe doctrine or newe ceremonies but that they holde that Religion by the which the faithfull euer since the beginning of the worlde haue beene saued That they were in déede of later yeares oppressed by their tyrannie as Abell was by Cain Isaak by Ismaell and Iacob by Esau so that they were compelled to hide themselues but that now they haue like the Moone recouered their light and that they will by lawe recouer their birth-right In this Court of sonnes going to lawe one with another there is great concourse and throng of people a great hurlie burlie and stirre ariseth they growe from wordes to blowes to murthers to burnings to warres to bloudshed and in a word to all kinde of torments Sometimes this side séemeth to haue the better hand sometimes that and the more that the Gospellers are suppressed tormented and burned the more doe they boast that they growe encrease preuaile and triumph In the meane season they protest that the matter ought to be tried not by violence but by course of lawe They appeale to God himselfe besides whō they say that they admitte none for chiefe and iudge That the Will maker himselfe may determine this controuersie by his holy word And that this may be the better done they appeale to a Generall Councell wherein it may be lawfull fréelie to reade and scanne the déede of the will and therehence to finde out the minde of the Will maker The See of Rome on the other side pleadeth that she hath not a fewe times assembled Generall Councels wherin the writings haue béene examined and found to haue geuen iudgement on her side for the title of the true Church The Gospellers denie that those Councels were generall and frée because the Papists would not permitte them fréely to geue an account of their faith neither would heare their defence but contrarie to all law either of God or man were themselues both parties and Iudges and con 〈…〉 their brethrens cause before they heard it or vnderstood it and therfore they protest that they haue not béene cast in their suite but will so long be heires of the possession bequeathed vnto them while they perfourme the couenants conteined in the publicke déede of the will according to the appointment of the will-maker And in the meane space they say that they are readie to waite for the righteous Iudge euen the Lorde Christ who shall come to iudge both the quicke the dead and to ende these long contentions in such sort that he will render to those y e shal ouercome the reward of eternall life but to those y e shalbe ouercome euerlasting condemnation Thus far onely haue both sides procéeded in iudgement Now then the question is to which party the inheritance of euerlasting life and the name of the true church is to be adiudged Surely the iudgement héer of peremptorily belongeth onely vnto Christ which he wil doo in that last iudgement court wherunto a thousand fiue hundred foure score and eleuen yéeres since he hath summoned all the worlde and which doubtlesse shalbe held before it be long But take héede O ye Kings Princes and inhabitants of the whole earth that in the mean time ye take parte with the better cause least if you be careles to decide this controuersie Christ héereafter doo mightilye iudge you in the last iudgement And that this may be doon by due form of law goe to I pray you shew your selues indifferent Iudges and condemne not a cause being not heard but if you haue heard the cause of the See of Rome with the right eare as was méet doo you likewise heare the doctrine of the Gospellers with the lest least ye be found farre vnlike y e great Alexander who heard y t speech of the accuser with the right eare but kept the left eare stopped for the defence of the accused First therefore I will rehearce the iudgement of both parties out of the writings of them both worde for worde neither trust me will I adde or diminish any thing which is not to be found in the same forme of words in the bookes of both sides Next I will shewe the reasons wherefore the Gospellers doo refuse to admitte for Iudges the popes themselues the Councels fathers traditions other such like witnesses but would haue all the controuersies of the Church to be discussed by the written woord of God And then if you