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A86506 A vindication of baptizing beleevers infants. In some animadversions upon Mr. Tombes his Exercitations about infant baptisme; as also upon his Examen, as touching the antiquities and authors by him alledged or contradicted that concern the same. Humbly submitted to the judgement of all candid Christians, / by Nathanael Homes. Published according to order. Homes, Nathanael, 1599-1678. 1646 (1646) Wing H2578; Thomason E324_1; ESTC R200604 209,591 247

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so_o that_o all_o in_o the_o gaolers_n house_n seem_v to_o be_v put_v to_o include_v those_o prisoner_n at_o large_a and_o other_o that_o be_v not_o of_o his_o family_n but_o only_o in_o his_o house_n at_o that_o time_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o hurry_n and_o noise_n of_o the_o prison_n open_a etc._n etc._n run_v together_o to_o see_v what_o be_v the_o matter_n four_o he_o speak_v the_o word_n to_o all_o in_o his_o house_n be_v a_o speech_n that_o may_v not_o absurd_o in_o some_o proportion_n be_v extend_v to_o child_n when_o something_o by_o it_o redound_v to_o child_n as_o it_o be_v say_v john_n leap_v in_o the_o womb_n of_o his_o mother_n elizabeth_n and_o elizabeth_n be_v fill_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n at_o the_o salutation_n of_o mary_n and_o act._n 2._o the_o promise_n be_v to_o you_o and_o your_o child_n for_o they_o shall_v be_v the_o better_a for_o this_o the_o word_n be_v speak_v be_v extend_v to_o the_o gaoler_n child_n in_o that_o by_o his_o faith_n they_o be_v near_o too_o and_o in_o a_o ready_a capacity_n of_o salvation_n than_o before_o when_o the_o father_n be_v a_o enemy_n what_o mean_v else_o that_o v._o 31._o believe_v thou_o and_o thou_o shall_v be_v save_v and_o thy_o house_n can_v we_o possible_o exclude_v here_o some_o that_o be_v not_o able_a to_o hear_v the_o word_n distinct_o five_o it_o be_v say_v signanter_n acuratc_o and_o by_o way_n of_o distinction_n for_o he_o and_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o he_o be_v baptize_v and_o all_o those_o that_o be_v his_o how_o can_v this_o be_v true_a if_o those_o child_n he_o have_v be_v not_o baptize_v and_o therefore_o mr._n tomb_n be_v too_o bold_a to_o speak_v that_o latter_a clause_n
namely_o unction_n and_o to_o prove_v that_o neither_o unction_n or_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v sacrament_n which_o though_o he_o prove_v by_o this_o argument_n that_o they_o be_v only_a appendix_n of_o sacrament_n yet_o he_o do_v not_o assert_v as_o from_o himself_o or_o from_o antiquity_n that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v to_o be_v conjoin_v with_o baptism_n but_o rather_o tell_v we_o the_o contrary_a partly_o from_o himself_o partly_o from_o those_o author_n he_o quote_v as_o that_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v that_o they_o give_v in_o command_n that_o man_n shall_v be_v reconcile_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n sect._n 53._o that_o reciliation_n be_v proper_a to_o repentance_n sect._n 54._o that_o though_o confirmation_n belong_v to_o the_o solemnity_n of_o baptism_n yet_o after_o a_o while_n after_o baptism_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o quotation_n of_o hieronimus_n tom._n 2._o in_o his_o diolog_n adu._n lucif_n 1._o we_o reply_v that_o if_o hieronimus_fw-la do_v confess_v imposition_n of_o hand_n on_o they_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v though_o he_o do_v not_o allege_v all_o scripture_n for_o it_o and_o so_o not_o that_o heb._n 6.2_o the_o antiquity_n hold_v good_a that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v use_v to_o be_v after_o apply_v to_o they_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v 2._o that_o hieronimus_fw-la in_o that_o place_n quote_v other_o place_n then_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o speak_v to_o our_o purpose_n thus_o orth._n neither_o can_v it_o be_v that_o he_o that_o be_v holy_a in_o baptism_n can_v be_v a_o sinner_n etc._n etc._n luc._n i_o receive_v a_o lay_v penitent_a person_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n know_v that_o the_o holy_a spirit_n be_v not_o confer_v by_o heretic_n orth._n see_v that_o he_o that_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n be_v make_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n it_o appear_v that_o baptism_n be_v not_o 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the_o argument_n from_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n mat._n 28.19_o against_o infant-baptisme_n confirm_v that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a but_o the_o rite_n of_o infant-baptisme_n agree_v not_o with_o the_o lord_n institution_n of_o baptism_n ergo._n the_o major_n be_v prove_v because_o institution_n be_v the_o rule_n of_o exhibit_v worship_n to_o god_n the_o minor_a be_v prove_v from_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n mat._n 28.19_o go_v therefore_o disciple_n you_o all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o whence_o i_o gather_v thus_o that_o rite_n agree_v not_o with_o the_o lord_n institution_n of_o baptism_n according_a to_o which_o they_o be_v baptize_v who_o the_o lord_n appoint_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v but_o after_o the_o rite_n of_o infant-baptisme_n they_o be_v baptize_v who_o the_o lord_n appoint_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v ergo._n the_o major_n be_v manifest_a of_o itself_o the_o minor_a be_v prove_v the_o lord_n appoint_v not_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v ergo._n the_o 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disciple_n and_o in_o the_o ordinary_a course_n of_o ministry_n we_o must_v follow_v the_o ordinary_a rule_n perhaps_o some_o one_o will_v except_v that_o christ_n teach_v that_o such_o disciple_n shall_v be_v baptize_v but_o that_o the_o speech_n be_v not_o exclusive_a refut_o but_o it_o be_v meet_v he_o remember_v who_o shall_v thus_o except_v if_o institution_n be_v the_o rule_n of_o worship_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o he_o that_o shall_v administer_v the_o worship_n bind_v himself_o to_o the_o rule_n otherwise_o he_o will_v devise_v will-worship_n and_o arrogate_v the_o lord_n authority_n to_o himself_o sure_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o business_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n insinuate_v this_o when_o be_v about_o to_o correct_v the_o aberration_n of_o the_o corinthian_n concern_v the_o lord_n supper_n he_o bring_v forth_o these_o word_n 1_o cor._n 11.23_o for_o i_o have_v receive_v of_o the_o lord_n that_o which_o i_o also_o have_v deliver_v unto_o you_o beside_o as_o christ_n mat._n 19.4.8_o argue_v from_o the_o institution_n of_o marriage_n against_o divorce_n for_o a_o light_a cause_n and_o polygamy_n because_o it_o be_v say_v two_o not_o more_o than_o two_o shall_v be_v one_o flesh_n so_o in_o like_a manner_n it_o may_v be_v here_o argue_v christ_n say_v baptise_v they_o and_o not_o other_o therefore_o these_o and_o not_o other_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v but_o as_o for_o he_o who_o gather_v from_o this_o place_n infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v because_o christ_n command_v all_o nation_n to_o be_v baptize_v very_o he_o be_v faulty_a 1._o in_o cast_v away_o that_o restriction_n that_o christ_n have_v put_v 2._o by_o determine_v that_o all_o man_n whatsoever_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v so_o that_o this_o be_v not_o a_o privilege_n of_o believer_n and_o their_o child_n but_o common_a with_o they_o to_o all_o infidel_n and_o their_o child_n and_o in_o very_a deed_n however_o assertor_n of_o infant-baptisme_n crack_v of_o a_o privilege_n of_o believer_n and_o 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church_n it_o be_v endoctrinez_n teach_v you_o of_o the_o high_a dutch_a lebret_n teach_v you_o of_o the_o low-dutch_a leert_v teach_v and_o likewise_o in_o hutter_n his_o n._n testament_n set_v forth_o in_o 12._o language_n in_o so_o many_o of_o they_o as_o i_o can_v guess_v at_o it_o be_v render_v only_o teach_v you_o his_o syr._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d teach_v you_o hebr._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d teach_v you_o lat._n de●●te_n teach_v you_o ital._n insegnate_n teach_v you_o of_o german_a dutch_a french_a we_o hear_v afore_o mark_v the_o evangelist_n also_o render_v it_o mark_v 16.15_o only_o by_o preach_v second_o it_o be_v evident_a the_o word_n in_o the_o greek_a be_v take_v divers_a way_n and_o here_o be_v no_o note_n of_o circumstance_n in_o matth._n 28.19_o to_o prove_v that_o it_o must_v signify_v to_o make-disciple_n three_o the_o command_n be_v for_o the_o apostle_n to_o preach_v to_o all_o nation_n though_o they_o shall_v not_o disciple_v or_o discipulate_v all_o if_o it_o be_v object_v that_o if_o the_o word_n in_o matth._n 28.19_o according_a to_o mar._n 16.15_o signify_v but_o to_o teach_v or_o preach_v yet_o mention_n of_o baptise_v immediate_o follow_v teach_v or_o preach_v we_o answer_v so_o be_v baptise_v express_v to_o follow_v believe_v say_v he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v haptize_v shall_v be_v save_v but_o in_o convert_v the_o proposition_n that_o be_v in_o turn_v it_o negative_o it_o be_v not_o say_v he_o that_o be_v not_o baptize_v shall_v be_v damn_v because_o infant_n as_o mr._n t._n confess_v afore_o though_o of_o a_o day_n old_a unbaptise_v may_v have_v the_o sanctify_a spirit_n therefore_o may_v be_v baptize_v act._n 10.47_o our_o answer_n then_o be_v that_o teach_v and_o baptise_v do_v not_o run_v even_o together_o second_o we_o now_o observe_v that_o the_o lord_n have_v say_v go_v preach_v to_o all_o nation_n he_o add_v baptise_v they_o indefinite_o not_o express_v all_o or_o some_o for_o they_o do_v not_o in_o the_o 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or_o with_o john_n baptist_n practice_n who_o as_o it_o be_v say_v express_o baptize_v the_o parent_n confess_v their_o sin_n but_o do_v not_o exclude_v by_o any_o expression_n their_o child_n so_o then_o we_o must_v needs_o conclude_v that_o here_o be_v no_o determinate_v word_n in_o matth._n 28.19_o to_o exclude_v believer_n infant_n and_o that_o this_o text_n do_v but_o give_v in_o the_o two_o main_a part_n of_o the_o apostle_n commission_n but_o not_o express_o all_o the_o part_n as_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o communion_n nor_o all_o the_o main_a circumstance_n of_o those_o two_o as_o touch_v child_n baptism_n second_o we_o answer_v to_o the_o comparison_n of_o that_o place_n of_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o with_o matt._n 28.19_o let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o that_o the_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o relate_v as_o the_o apostle_n there_o express_v v._o 23._o i_o have_v receive_v of_o the_o lord_n that_o which_o i_o deliver_v i_o say_v relate_v to_o a_o express_a institution_n wherein_o 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believer_n infant_n from_o baptism_n ans_fw-fr we_o shall_v by_o god_n leave_v show_v that_o there_o be_v none_o to_o make_v any_o such_o declaration_n when_o by_o and_o by_o we_o come_v to_o answer_v that_o argument_n mean_o while_o we_o say_v second_o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o place_n to_o show_v that_o apparent_a unbeliever_n while_o such_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o 2._o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o that_o institution_n matt._n 26.26_o 27._o be_v sufficient_a to_o exclude_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o we_o have_v large_o show_v that_o there_o be_v no_o place_n of_o scripture_n to_o exclude_v infant_n of_o believer_n from_o the_o first_o seal_n but_o many_o for_o include_v they_o as_o belong_v to_o it_o and_o therefore_o we_o can_v take_v that_o general_a expression_n go_v teach_v and_o baptize_v matth._n 28.19_o to_o intend_v to_o exclude_v they_o from_o baptism_n chap._n i._n mr._n tomb_n his_o three_o argument_n against_o infant-baptisme_n practice_v exercit._fw-la argum._n 3._o sect._n 16._o from_o john_n baptist_n and_o the_o apostle_n practice_v be_v from_o the_o apostle_n and_o john_n baptist_n which_o say_v he_o be_v the_o best_a interpreter_n of_o our_o lord_n institution_n from_o whence_o this_o argument_n be_v form_v that_o tenet_n and_o practice_n which_o be_v put_v baptism_n can_v be_v administer_v as_o john_n baptist_n and_o the_o apostle_n do_v administer_v it_o agree_v not_o with_o the_o practice_n of_o john_n baptist_n and_o the_o apostle_n but_o the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v put_v baptism_n can_v be_v administer_v as_o john_n baptist_n and_o the_o apostle_n administer_v it_o ergo._n 1._o we_o answer_v animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la this_o argument_n do_v not_o in_o term_n conclude_v the_o thing_n in_o question_n for_o make_v the_o supposition_n that_o john_n baptist_n and_o the_o apostle_n the_o best_a interpreter_n of_o our_o lord_n institution_n have_v never_o any_o opportunity_n or_o occasion_n offer_v to_o baptize_v any_o believer_n infant_n will_v it_o therefore_o follow_v that_o the_o institution_n do_v not_o allow_v it_o when_o it_o do_v not_o forbid_v it_o but_o leave_v it_o to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o first_o seal_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n moses_n the_o best_a interpreter_n of_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n and_o so_o of_o the_o institution_n of_o circumcision_n give_v by_o god_n have_v not_o any_o occasion_n that_o we_o read_v of_o to_o our_o remembrance_n of_o circumcise_n any_o jew_n of_o ripe_a year_n will_v it_o follow_v therefore_o that_o he_o may_v not_o have_v do_v it_o according_a to_o the_o institution_n 2._o we_o answer_v that_o when_o mr._n t._n be_v to_o answer_v our_o argument_n that_o the_o apostle_n baptise_v whole_a family_n likely_a baptize_v some_o infant_n he_o make_v it_o doubtful_a whether_o they_o baptize_v any_o infant_n and_o now_o mr._n t._n put_v it_o out_o of_o doubt_n that_o they_o baptize_v none_o or_o else_o he_o will_v prove_v one_o doubt_n by_o another_o but_o let_v we_o come_v particular_o to_o the_o argument_n the_o minor_a namely_o the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v put_v baptism_n can_v be_v administer_v as_o john_n baptist_n and_o the_o apostle_n administer_v be_v deny_v for_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v that_o they_o baptize_v no_o child_n but_o mr._n t._n will_v prove_v the_o minor_a thus_o before_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n even_o the_o jew_n do_v confess_v their_o sin_n the_o apostle_n afore_o baptism_n do_v require_v show_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n matth._n 3.6_o luk._n 3.10_o act._n 2.38_o act._n 8.12_o 13_o 37._o act._n 9.18_o act._n 20.47_o act._n 11._o 17_o 18._o act._n 16.15.31_o 32_o 33._o act._n 18.8_o act._n 19.5_o act._n 22.16_o but_o this_o can_v be_v do_v in_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n ergo._n we_o answer_v by_o limit_v the_o major_a that_o
jewish_a passover_n 1_o cor._n 5._o and_o of_o the_o jewish_a manna_n and_o water_n out_o of_o the_o rock_n 1_o cor._n 10.1_o &c_n &c_n be_v therefore_o all_o baptism_n and_o be_v therefore_o the_o lord_n supper_n deserve_o doubtful_a whether_o they_o may_v be_v use_v yea_o why_o do_v mr_n t._n without_o any_o limitation_n call_v circumcision_n jewish_a as_o if_o it_o have_v be_v mere_o so_o when_o the_o apostle_n call_v it_o rom._n 4.11_o the_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n note_n note_n it_o have_v be_v too_o much_o for_o mr_n t._n to_o have_v call_v it_o mere_a old_a testament_n or_o ceremonious_a circumcision_n see_v it_o be_v the_o first_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n with_o abraham_n which_o be_v gospel_n be_v the_o main_a hinge_n upon_o which_o the_o new_a testament_n move_v in_o the_o main_a point_n of_o salvation_n by_o faith_n in_o christ_n act._n 2._o rom._n 4._o gal._n 3._o where_o the_o apostle_n in_o send_v we_o to_o christ_n by_o faith_n 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practice_n of_o infant_n baptism_n when_o many_o of_o their_o fellow_n have_v be_v the_o cause_n of_o it_o nor_o be_v it_o enough_o to_o wave_v that_o we_o have_v say_v to_o these_o two_o particular_n viz._n the_o second_o and_o three_o by_o tell_v we_o there_o be_v a_o institution_n of_o circumcision_n in_o scripture_n a_o institution_n of_o baptism_n of_o man_n and_o of_o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o the_o scripture_n for_o so_o we_o have_v prove_v there_o be_v of_o infant_n baptism_n and_o we_o may_v as_o well_o assert_v this_o in_o this_o our_o answer_n as_o for_o the_o anabaptist_n to_o beg_v the_o question_n in_o the_o objection_n as_o if_o infant-baptisme_n be_v not_o institute_v in_o scripture_n for_o the_o four_o particular_a with_o its_o great_a &_o cetera_fw-la namely_o that_o together_o with_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n some_o error_n and_o many_o humane_a tradition_n have_v go_v along_o in_o the_o company_n as_o giving_z infant_n the_o lord_n supper_n etc._n etc._n it_o need_v no_o long_a nor_o careful_a answer_n for_o first_o we_o know_v that_o all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n have_v be_v for_o many_o hundred_o of_o year_n for_o the_o general_a daub_v with_o many_o tradition_n and_o darken_v with_o many_o error_n by_o the_o papist_n doctrine_n mix_v with_o legend_n note_n note_n baptism_n be-spitled_n grease_v with_o oil_n brine_v with_o salt_n the_o wine_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n mix_v with_o water_n etc._n etc._n yet_o this_o do_v not_o infer_v that_o therefore_o the_o ordinance_n themselves_o be_v doubtful_a 2._o that_o though_o you_o mr_n t._n vltrò_fw-la nos_fw-la provocasti_fw-la have_v voluntary_o provoke_v we_o here_o to_o rip_v up_o all_o the_o abominable_a opinion_n and_o dangerous_a error_n and_o practice_n that_o have_v in_o all_o age_n accompany_v the_o opinion_n of_o anabaptism_n and_o antipaedobaptisme_n out_o of_o mr_n bullinger_n sleiden_n commentary_n in_o his_o 5._o and_o 10._o book_n lambertus_n hortensius_n of_o the_o anabaptiss_n of_o the_o low_a country_n john_n gastius_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n of_o zuitzerland_n melancthon_n ch._n de_fw-fr nielles_fw-fr pontanus_n osiander_n etc._n etc._n sin_n etc._n all_o which_o will_v more_o than_o furnish_v the_o reader_n with_o a_o full_a answer_n to_o the_o 2_o part_n of_o mr_n t._n his_o examen_fw-la the_o title_n or_o sum_n whereof_o be_v set_v down_o by_o mr_n t._n that_o antipaedobaptisme_n have_v no_o ill_a influence_n on_o church_n or_o commonwealth_n which_o author_n aforesaid_a have_v too_o many_o sad_a instance_n of_o both_o we_o forbear_v to_o name_v they_o as_o have_v no_o delight_n in_o catalogue_n of_o sin_n yet_o if_o we_o shall_v do_v so_o you_o will_v not_o take_v that_o for_o a_o proof_n of_o the_o doubtfulness_n of_o anabaptism_n or_o antipaedobaptisme_n you_o will_v say_v we_o do_v rather_o endeavour_v to_o disgrace_v it_o then_o to_o confute_v it_o as_o it_o be_v your_o complaint_n against_o mr_n m._n in_o your_o first_o section_n of_o the_o second_o part_n of_o your_o examen_fw-la why_o then_o do_v you_o here_o labour_n to_o dazzle_v the_o eye_n of_o man_n against_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v believer_n child_n with_o a_o aspersion_n that_o some_o odd_a opinion_n and_o tradition_n have_v attend_v it_o 2._o to_o mr_n t._n his_o minor_a we_o answer_v according_a to_o the_o particular_n he_o recite_v but_o in_o some_o age_n say_v he_o after_o the_o first_o from_o the_o apostle_n the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v in_o use_n first_o as_o a_o tradition_n not_o write_v but_o why_o do_v mr_n t._n we_o wonder_v speak_v of_o some_o age_n after_o the_o first_o 100_o year_n from_o the_o apostle_n for_o unless_o he_o can_v prove_v infant-baptisme_n to_o be_v a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o the_o first_o age_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n all_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o that_o age_n it_o be_v not_o a_o unwritten_a one_o though_o all_o the_o age_n follow_v to_o the_o world_n end_n say_v so_o and_o swear_v it_o nor_o do_v the_o word_n be_v in_o use_n help_v he_o for_o if_o it_o be_v not_o prove_v it_o be_v a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o the_o first_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n though_o it_o be_v not_o then_o in_o use_n this_o be_v nothing_o to_o make_v it_o then_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n now_o to_o the_o first_o particular_a wherein_z mr_n t._n say_v infant-baptism_n be_v in_o use_n as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o some_o age_n after_o the_o first_o from_o the_o apostle_n witness_n origen_n first_o we_o will_v bring_v our_o proof_n of_o antiquity_n to_o the_o contrary_a and_o then_o second_o answer_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o quotation_n of_o origen_n 1_o for_o proof_n out_o of_o antiquity_n that_o infant-baptisme_n be_v not_o in_o use_n after_o the_o first_o age_n from_o the_o apostle_n upon_o mere_a unwritten_a tradition_n we_o will_v take_v our_o author_n according_a to_o order_n of_o time_n 1_o origen_n origen_n origen_n flourish_v about_o the_o very_a beginning_n of_o the_o second_o century_n or_o age_n after_o the_o first_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n for_o he_o be_v bear_v hieron_n bear_v so_o butholcer_n out_o of_o hieron_n in_o the_o first_o age_n or_o 100_o year_n after_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n about_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 186._o and_o he_o be_v the_o disciple_n of_o clement_n in_o the_o 18_o year_n of_o his_o age_n and_o about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n 204._o open_n his_o school_n euseb_n school_n helvic_n ou●_n of_o euseb_n therefore_o he_o can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o apostle_n about_o infant-baptisme_n etc._n etc._n first_o his_o word_n in_o his_o five_o book_n upon_o the_o six_o chapter_n of_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n be_v the_o church_n have_v receive_v a_o tradition_n from_o the_o apostle_n to_o give_v baptism_n also_o to_o
integrity_n or_o ripeness_n of_o body_n and_o mind_n etc._n etc._n but_o give_v not_o proof_n or_o reason_n but_o only_o one_o single_a instance_n of_o augustine_n himself_o for_o a_o universal_a proposition_n 3._o as_o we_o note_v afore_o that_o walfrid_n gross_o mistake_v in_o the_o allege_v that_o one_o instance_n of_o augustine_n for_o walfrid_n say_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr rebus_fw-la ecclesiasticis_fw-la which_o we_o have_v under_o our_o eye_n that_o augustine_n report_v in_o his_o confession_n of_o himself_o that_o he_o continue_v a_o catechumenus_fw-la a_o chatechise_v person_n till_o he_o be_v 25_o year_n old_a before_o he_o be_v baptize_v when_o as_o augustine_n say_v of_o himself_o in_o his_o book_n of_o confession_n that_o he_o be_v not_o convert_v till_o about_o the_o thirty_o year_n of_o his_o age_n after_o which_o he_o continue_v a_o catechize_v one_o about_o two_o year_n in_o which_o time_n he_o write_v against_o the_o academian_o and_o write_v his_o soliloquy_n 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before_o all_o baptism_n from_o witness_n or_o surety_n when_o as_o we_o know_v that_o the_o first_o intimation_n of_o touch_v they_o be_v not_o till_o about_o 195_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o how_o novel_a the_o invention_n of_o their_o confession_n be_v who_o can_v just_o tell_v 2_o i_o propose_v it_o to_o grave_a consideration_n whether_o confession_n of_o surety_n be_v not_o at_o first_o in_o imimation_n of_o christian_a parent_n in_o who_o stead_n they_o stand_v so_o that_o as_o child_n be_v baptize_v when_o their_o parent_n have_v former_o make_v confession_n so_o surety_n confess_v in_o relation_n to_o themselves_o that_o they_o may_v be_v repute_v fit_a to_o stand_v as_o a_o kind_n of_o parent_n to_o a_o child_n of_o a_o unbelieved_a parent_n to_o be_v baptize_v even_o as_o abraham_n profession_n of_o his_o belief_n in_o god_n gen._n 15._o gen._n 17._o make_v he_o stand_v as_o a_o parent_n to_o all_o his_o household_n the_o last_o thing_n mr_n t._n object_n against_o augustine_n eeamen_n eeamen_n and_o through_o he_o against_o antiquity_n be_v that_o in_o those_o time_n they_o baptize_v all_o infant_n whether_o of_o believe_a parent_n or_o not_o or_o whether_o with_o this_o or_o that_o intention_n they_o bring_v they_o we_o answer_v 1_o too_o much_o animadver_n animadver_n do_v not_o overthrow_n enough_o in_o antiquity_n to_o prove_v infant-baptism_n in_o those_o time_n which_o be_v the_o dispute_n now_o in_o hand_n 2_o that_o this_o argue_v against_o mr_n t._n that_o infant-baptisme_n have_v be_v ancient_o more_o universal_o practise_v then_o adult_a baptism_n 3_o that_o in_o augustine_n time_n boniface_n scruple_v whether_o the_o sin_n of_o parent_n may_v not_o praejudice_v the_o baptism_n of_o their_o infant_n see_v the_o faith_n of_o believe_a parent_n do_v advance_v the_o baptism_n of_o their_o infant_n augustin_n epist_n 23._o and_o augustin_n himself_o there_o answer_v that_o infant_n be_v regenerate_v he_o mean_v baptize_v by_o the_o spiritual_a will_n of_o they_o parent_n or_o in_o place_n of_o parent_n that_o bring_v they_o and_o in_o effect_n have_v this_o further_a in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr animâ_fw-la &_o ejus_fw-la origine_fw-la chap._n 11._o that_o those_o child_n that_o be_v bear_v of_o wicked_a parent_n and_o be_v not_o commit_v into_o the_o hand_n of_o any_o godly_a person_n that_o may_v stand_v instead_o of_o parent_n etc._n parent_n as_o abraham_n do_v to_o all_o his_o family_n of_o stranger_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o die_v unbaptise_v be_v damn_v by_o the_o traduction_n of_o original_a sin_n from_o their_o parent_n 4_o you_o hear_v before_o how_o antiquity_n look_v upon_o the_o descent_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n from_o parent_n to_o child_n thus_o by_o many_o instance_n and_o vindication_n of_o ancient_a writer_n you_o have_v see_v that_o that_o particular_a of_o mr_n t._n his_o minor_a in_o his_o five_o argum_fw-la of_o his_o exercitation_n that_o in_o some_o age_n after_o the_o first_o from_o the_o apostle_n the_o tenet_n and_o practice_v of_o baptism_n be_v in_o use_n as_o a_o tradition_n not_o write_v i_o say_v you_o have_v see_v it_o prove_v to_o be_v most_o false_a and_o have_v vindicate_v the_o ancient_n from_o mr_n t._n his_o objection_n in_o his_o examen_fw-la 17._o exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o now_o let_v we_o return_v to_o his_o exercitation_n §_o 17._o where_o mr_n t._n will_v undertake_v to_o prove_v it_o that_o at_o one_o time_n at_o least_o in_o one_o place_n where_o origen_n live_v by_o one_o author_n to_o wit_n origen_n that_o infant-baptism_n go_v for_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n and_o for_o this_o he_o quote_v only_o one_o place_n and_o only_o quote_v it_o not_o give_v we_o the_o word_n he_o intend_v in_o any_o language_n but_o we_o have_v give_v you_o the_o place_n afore_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o 14_o chap._n of_o our_o animadversion_n animadver_n animadver_n in_o our_o quotation_n of_o origen_n and_o that_o place_n out_o of_o he_o in_o his_o five_o book_n on_o the_o six_o chapter_n of_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o rom._n master_n t._n quote_v here_o by_o the_o name_n of_o hom._n on_o rom._n 6._o where_o we_o have_v clear_v it_o that_o origen_n can_v understand_v by_o tradition_n a_o unwritten_a tradition_n to_o which_o we_o add_v now_o that_o which_o be_v very_o considerable_a to_o clear_v the_o mind_n of_o origen_n from_o hold_v any_o baptism_n to_o be_v a_o mere_a tradition_n namely_o in_o that_o he_o speak_v so_o often_o in_o his_o 6_o hom._n super_fw-la jesum_fw-la nave_n that_o baptism_n without_o limitation_n be_v the_o second_o circumcision_n and_o once_o have_v there_o these_o word_n sed_fw-la ex_fw-la quo_fw-la venit_fw-la christus_fw-la &_o dedit_fw-la nobis_fw-la secundam_fw-la circumcisionem_fw-la per_fw-la baptismum_fw-la regenerationis_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v but_o since_o christ_n come_v and_o have_v give_v we_o the_o second_o circumcision_n by_o baptism_n of_o regeneration_n he_o have_v purge_v our_o soul_n so_o origen_n so_o that_o now_o mr_n t._n may_v take_v his_o choice_n will_v mr_n t._n accept_v of_o origen_n on_o rom._n 6._o for_o his_o witness_n for_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n of_o infant_n baptism_n we_o have_v hear_v his_o witness_n examine_v he_o by_o circumstance_n he_o speak_v no_o such_o thing_n or_o will_v mr_n t._n impeach_n and_o disgrace_v his_o own_o witness_n as_o not_o competent_a say_v that_o he_o be_v uncertain_a whether_o he_o read_v origen_n or_o ruffinus_n that_o read_v that_o enarration_n on_o the_o ep._n to_o the_o roman_n why_o then_o do_v mr_n t._n quote_v that_o one_o place_n thereby_o before_o the_o ignorant_a to_o assay_v to_o blast_v all_o the_o best_a antiquity_n almost_o since_o the_o apostle_n that_o constant_o say_v baptism_n of_o infant_n come_v from_o christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n and_o ground_n it_o upon_o several_a scripture_n and_o divine_a reason_n why_o do_v mr_n t._n hang_v so_o huge_a a_o weight_n on_o so_o small_a a_o wire_n he_o have_v produce_v but_o one_o pretend_a place_n on_o rom._n 6._o for_o himself_o and_o that_o he_o weaken_v too_o with_o a_o glance_n at_o origen_n work_v on_o leviticus_n to_o prevent_v our_o quotation_n of_o any_o thing_n thence_o but_o as_o we_o have_v give_v he_o one_o place_n out_o of_o origen_n on_o levit_fw-la and_o another_o out_o of_o he_o on_o rom._n 6._o both_o as_o they_o be_v translate_v out_o of_o the_o greek_a by_o hierom_n as_o the_o best_a edition_n promise_v we_o so_o we_o have_v give_v he_o a_o place_n out_o of_o origen_n on_o luke_n against_o which_o mr_n t._n have_v make_v no_o exception_n and_o we_o say_v further_o if_o mr_n t._n be_v not_o sure_a whether_o he_o read_v origen_n on_o rom._n then_o he_o be_v not_o sure_a whether_o he_o read_v ruffinus_n for_o his_o doubt_n lie_v between_o they_o two_o to_o that_o of_o mr_n t._n concern_v augustine_n and_o hieromes_n reliance_n as_o he_o suppose_v only_o on_o cyprian_n 59_o epist_n 17._o exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o to_o fidus_n for_o infant_n baptism_n we_o say_v only_o this_o let_v the_o reader_n turn_v back_o to_o what_o we_o have_v translate_v out_o of_o those_o author_n or_o turn_v to_o our_o quotation_n of_o they_o and_o read_v their_o scripture_n argument_n and_o then_o judge_v whether_o mr_n t._n do_v not_o much_o mistake_n i_o confess_v since_o i_o take_v th●s_n work_v in_o hand_n to_o animadvert_v a_o little_a upon_o mr_n t._n his_o exercitation_n i_o have_v oft_o wonder_v that_o he_o speak_v sometime_o so_o unwary_o that_o have_v such_o long_a time_n to_o consider_v sometime_o give_v forth_o great_a thing_n with_o small_a hint_n and_o glance_v intimation_n for_o position_n and_o probation_n but_o i_o answer_v myself_o with_o this_o likely_a he_o remember_v he_o be_v propogate_a a_o now-taking-opinion_n he_o therefore_o that_o will_v not_o consider_v but_o will_v be_v mistake_v let_v he_o be_v mistake_v if_o he_o