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A79520	An answer to a book which Samuel Eaton put up to the Parliament: which he saith he is a teacher of the Church of Christ, heretofore meeting at Ducken-field, now at Stockport in Cheshire; and he cals the title of his book Quakers confuted. Moses who was a judg quaked and trembled, David a king in Israel quaked and trembled, and Solomon who was a king trembled, and Daniel a servant of the most high God trembled, ... And these heard the voice of God, and thou that writest, thou mayest say thou hast confuted all them; for he that is against them, is against us, and he that is against us, is against them, for the same power is witnessed; but thou Eaton, who saith thou art a teacher of the church at Duckenfield, who saith thou hast heard the voice of the living God, and that such a voice as this, as comes immediately from God, you have not heard, ... And Isaiah saith, hear the word of the Lord all ye that tremble at his word; and this is the man that I do regard, saith the Lord, that is of a contrite heart, and trembleth at my word; but such Eaton and his church doth not regard, but custs out friends of the Lord from them, whom the world calls Quakers.	Camm, John, 1604?-1656.	1654 (1654)	Wing C389; Thomason E735_9; ESTC R206969	38,921	53

carnal who hath nothing but the letter to judg withal and hast denied the eternal spirit which judgeth all things Query 15. What are the Ordinances which are ordained of God that those which you call Quakers deny or when did God command you to observe them as to sprinkle infants to pray before and after Sermons as you call them or to set times and daies and hours which was in the Generation wh●●h was enemies to Christ who observed such things Query 16. Where these Ordinances of God be which you speak of and where God commanded them and to whom which you say them you call Quakers deny mention them in particular and declare them openly in writing and give our accusing Ans In thy answer to these two Queries thou sayest we are against ●ll outward teaching Reply We are against a publike prayer which is in the state of the Phar●●e●s which Christ forbids but the praying with the Spirit we own and we are against sprinkling Infants for there is no Scripture for it but the Baptism of the Spirit we own and we are against all your singing Davids quakings tremblings prayers praises and prophesi●s in M●eter but the singing with the Spirit we own and all your performing Religion in your set hours daies and times we are against for that which is pure performs Religion and this is the pure Religion which keeps unspotted from the world therefore we do declare against your Traditions not to be Ordinances of Christ but the Ordinances of Christ we own Object And something in answ●r to your own practise concerning sprinkling of Infants is this First for the act of sprinkling thou sayest something may be held forth though you use it not Reply And here thou art confused you would go to hold up something for your own practise and yet thou sayest you do not use it Object And thou bringest the bloud of Christ which is called the bloud of sprinkling and thou sayest seeing water in Baptism be sprinkled and the subject types of Christs bloud Reply Here thou hast made this tipe Christ made it not neither is there any such types made in the Scripture neither any such seal as sprinkling infants Object And thou sayest as for sprinkling Infants something may be held forth for it the bloud of Christ called the bloud of sprinkling Rep. Here thou would'st set the sprinkling of Infants above the Bloud of Christ and make the bloud of Christ of none effect and make the bloud of Christ a figure of sprinkling Infants but the bloud of Christ we own and deny thee and thy holdings forth who would make the substance a figure or a type sprinkling Infants and many Scriptures you bring but not a word to justifie sprinkling Infants and fain you would bring some Scriptures to cover thee but there is not one will witness thee in the Scriptures for sprinkling Infants Object And whereas thou bring'st Gen. 17. ver 7. as concerning God establishing his promise to his seed Rep. Thou lyar here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to pervert the Scriptures doth that Scripture speak of sprinkling Infants there is not such a word in it who makes people blind like thy self and would'st make them but God hath raised up a light in the hearts of his people that doth discover thee Object And thou bring'st Exod. 12.48 which there is not a word in it to justifie sprinkling Infants and thou bring'st Deut. 19.10.11 Jer. 31.34 Rep. I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a lyar for in all these Scriptures there is not a word that speaks of sprinkling Infants but thou lyar and Sorcerer goes about to bewitch people with thy Inchantments but thy Whoredoms are di●covered and Acts 22.16 thou pervertest there is not a word in it of sprinkling Infants and Acts 2.38 which thou would'st pervert And here again I charge thee to be a lyar for those Scriptures do not speak of sprinkling Infants and to the state of Simon Magns thou art not yet come to witness that Baptism as he did but art in thy Sorcery and so as thou made a type thou art now making Seals and Covenants and thy sprinkling Infants is a Seal of thy Covenants which there is not a word in Scripture for Again Gen. 17.7 thou perverts the Scriptures to maintain sprinkling Infants which there is not a word in Scripture to justifie it and Rom. 4.11 thou bring'st to justifie sprinkling Infants which there is not one word for it and Heb. 10.16 thou bring'st to justifie sprinkling Infants which there is not one word for it and Jer. 33.33 thou bring'st to justifie it where there is not so many verses in it not 33. Col. 2.11 thou bring'st also to justifie sprinkling Infants which speaks not one word for it and Exod. 12.48 over again once would have served thee to prove thy self a lyar and Deut. 9.10.11 thou bring'st over again to prove thy self a lyar withal for there is not one word to justifie it and thou bring'st Mat. 7.4 for the application of Water and here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a lyar and a wrester and a perverter of the Scriptures for not one word in all these Scriptures doth speak of sprinkling infants who would have a cl●ak but canst get none and calls these the Ordinances of Christ which are none for the Ordinances of Christ we own and Baptism we own but thy Traditions we deny Object And in thy answer concerning praying afore and after Sermon Rep. Thou bring'st the Saints conditions the Apostles praying and the Saints to justifie thy own who a●t in the state of the Pharisees and so puts no difference between the holy and prophane betwixt the precious and the vile and so shews thy self to be a false Prophet among the false Prophets for as thou confesses thou never heard the Voice of God and denies immediate inspiration And what hast thou to do to pray or talk of the Church of Christ the Apostles conditions who hast shewed thy self to be an hypocrite for God hears not hypocrites and we do believe and know that you never heard his Voice and here thou sh●west thy prayers are abomination to him therfore I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to let the Saints conditions and prayers alone for God heareth the righteous but accepts not the prayers of the wicked who art not come so far as Balaam for he heard the Voice of God therefore because the Saints prayed which you would bring their conditions for thy praying afore and after Sermon and there is no Scripture will cloke you Object And whereas thou sayest women are not suffered to teach Rep. And did not Christ send a woman to teach and did he not say his Daughters shall Prophecy thou art the woman that art forb●dden to teach who confesses you never heard Gods Voice nor immediate inspiration therefore silence flesh before the Lord but the Apostles and Saints praying we own

that thou car'st oppose him who said they was called of men Master have the chiefest places in the Assemblies stand praying in the Sinagogues and thus he shews to the multitude how they may be known and here thou art known and seen who would justifie that which Christ cried against in thy ambition and saith you have not cause to reject those things he cried woe against as to be called of men Master and have the chiefest places in the Assemblies those things spoke Jesus to the multitude and the multitude seeing his word as thou may'st read in Mat. 23. if you will own the Scriptures to be truth and thou bring'st Philip and the Goalor came to Paul and Silas and said Sirs and these words thou bring'st to oppose Christs words who said be ye not called of men Masters And here thou declar'st rhy self to be an open Antichrist who opposes Christ I charge thee in the presence of the Lord for Christ saith be not ye called of men Master for ye have one Master even Christ and all ye are Brethren and thou bring'st the Goalors words to oppose Christ Acts 16.30 Christs Doctrine denied to be called of men Master Object And thou sayest That in Mat. 23. those words will stand us in no steed which were Christs words Rep. Here thou dost say Christs words will stand us in no stead thou deniest his Doctrine and teacheth for Doctrine the Traditions of men and there thou shewest another Doctrine which is damnable and cursed Object And thou sayest The title of Mastery is a civil respect and importts a civil honour Rep. Here thou shewest the Master thou serves who denies the Doctrine of Christ and how canst thou believe which seeks honour of another Object And whereas thou sayest It is a meer slander to speak against them who have the chiefest places in the Assemblies and art called of men Master Rep. Here thou might'st as well call Christ a slanderer who spoke against all those things which thou seek'st to justifie in the sight of the world but in the sight of God is condemned and of all who are of God and by them thou art judged Object And whereas thou sayest The Apostle saith giving honour go one before another Rep. What hast thou to do to talk of the Apostle who denies the same teaching to be now as was then for the condition we own which must be honoured But thou hast declared thou never heard'st Gods voice nor waits for it and so declares thy self to be a Heathen that knows not God to whom he will render vengeance in flam●s of fire and that is not honoured of God nor none of his but we honour all men in the Lord. Obj. And whereof thou accusest us of destroying relation Reply All such relations as is contrary to Christ and his Doctrine we d●ny And who would take the ●itle from Christ to be called of men Master and layest thou wilt not reject it h●re thou shews forth thy presumption to be called of m●n Master let all people see if you own that Christ which the Scripture sp●aks of who forbad it Mat 23. Bu● you would take the title from him who art for destruction who shews that Christ never sent thee for if he had you would abide in his Doctrine which thou dost deny and who takes the Apos●l●s words to just●fie that to oppose Christs words who spoke to them that were in the state of servants and Masters Earth makes Masters but the time will come as with the Master so with the servant he that can receive it let him as Philemon Paul's doctrine to him who can receive it may Quer. 19. Whether a man shall ●v●r grow up that he need no man teach him under your Ministery yea or no seeing the Apostle saith You need no man teach you and you which have been long teachers how many have you brought up in this condition Ans And in thy answer to this Query thou sayest Such opposition as excludes all humane helps you do confess That no man is ever like to grow up so high Reply Here thou art not so far as some of thy fellows for they deny humane helps though they be in the same nature that t●ou art in and he that grows up in perfection grows out of ignorance and humane helps the Ap●stles said they knew all things but this thou hast denyed and calls it an hyperbolyc●l expression Obj. And thou sayest they may grow in a sence under teaching of Ministers among you to know all the truths of the Gospel and yet thou denyes immediate inspiration and the same teaching ●ow as was then and yet thou sayest in a comparative sence they may not need teachers Reply This is thy sence who hast denied the Doctrine of C●●●●nd thy confused stuff which comes out of thy bottle and Peters Ex●ortation and Pauls thou hast chared thy self from for thou sayest the same t●●chings are not now ●s w●re 〈◊〉 and th● Church of Christ we d●●●●itness to be he p●liar and ground 〈◊〉 truth which you ha●e c●ared your selves from and ●●om the Teachers Past●●s and Elders of it who s●i●● there is none such now as were th●● wh● would mak● truth changeable and 〈◊〉 thou art a 〈◊〉 in thy own g●n●ra●ion who knows not God manifested in flesh just●fi●d inspirit seen of Angels preached unto the Gentiles believed on in the world Obj. And you say you have answered our questions agreeable to the Scriptures Reply There is another lye let the reader read them and prove whether thou hast not spoken contrary to the Scriptures and all thy consequences and sences are contradicted with us and den●●d and trampled upon with all knowing Christians who are in Christ and thou art he whose desire is to destroy the Scriptures who would subvert the faith of the Gosp●l who leads people captive after thy own delusions who hast denied Pastors teachers and Officers now as in the time of the Aposti●s and here you have cleared your selves to be no Pastors no E●●●rs no Offic●rs but a likeness or an imag● which Go● forb●ds for thou sayest there is not any suc● Officers P●stor and teachers as was then then you are 〈◊〉 ●alse and to b● denyed who are contrary to the Scriptures for with it you are proved and with the life judged and your prayers we d●ny for God hath opened our eyes by which 〈…〉 you del●●ed poor creatures who are thus sold under d●●usion as thou 〈…〉 and Gods E●ection thou knows noth●ng of but are s●a●●d and ●●p 〈◊〉 by the Devil who art led captive for the present after his will this all who are in the Eternal light there will thee see ANd Eaton thou saith these things thou hast pres●nted for this end and purpose to obstruct their way and stop their further proceedings that their imposture might prevail no longer Here thou hast digged a pit and art fallen into it and laid a snare and art taken I take all the children of light