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A56600 An answer to a book, spread abroad by the Romish priests, intituled, The touchstone of the reformed Gospel wherein the true doctrine of the Church of England, and many texts of the Holy Scripture are faithfully explained / by the Right Reverend Father in God, Symon, Lord Bishop of Ely. Patrick, Simon, 1626-1707. 1692 (1692) Wing P745; ESTC R10288 116,883 290

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my_o heart_n to_o look_v into_o the_o rest_n several_a of_o which_o we_o have_v have_v already_o as_o xxii_o luk._n 32._o xxiii_o mat._n 3._o xvii_o deut._n 8._o xv._o act._n 28._o and_o he_o seem_v to_o have_v intend_v nothing_o but_o mere_o to_o make_v a_o show_n of_o more_o strength_n than_o he_o have_v which_o make_v he_o thrust_v in_o among_o the_o rest_n v._o ephes_n 27._o which_o i_o have_v just_a now_o examine_v his_o father_n also_o be_v only_a name_n without_o their_o sense_n and_o so_o let_v they_o pass_v next_o he_o say_v we_o affirm_v vii_o that_o the_o church_n have_v be_v hide_v and_o invisible_a he_o still_o go_v on_o in_o his_o ambiguous_a way_n of_o state_v our_o
to_o the_o master_n that_o priest_n bound_v and_o loose_v because_o they_o declare_v man_n to_o be_v hound_n and_o loose_v in_o short_a the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n be_v that_o god_n absolve_v by_o his_o minister_n who_o can_v see_v into_o man_n heart_n and_o therefore_o can_v only_o pronounce_v that_o he_o absolve_v they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n upon_o supposal_n of_o their_o unfeigned_a repentance_n but_o it_o be_v apparent_a the_o church_n always_o believe_v it_o be_v god_n who_o proper_o absolve_v and_o forgive_v sin_n not_o the_o priest_n for_o all_o the_o ancient_a ritual_n show_v that_o the_o absolution_n be_v give_v by_o prayer_n to_o god_n for_o the_o penitent_a there_o be_v no_o other_o form_n of_o absolution_n in_o they_o but_o prayer_n which_o be_v make_v in_o behalf_n of_o the_o penitent_a they_o believe_v do_v obtain_v from_o god_n the_o pardon_n of_o those_o sin_n which_o he_o have_v with_o all_o humility_n public_o confess_v and_o therefore_o the_o present_a form_n i_o absolve_v thou_o which_o be_v never_o use_v but_o in_o the_o latin_a church_n and_o not_o there_o neither_o till_o the_o middle_n of_o the_o xiiith_o century_n must_v be_v understand_v to_o be_v only_o a_o very_a solemn_a declaration_n that_o god_n forgive_v the_o person_n upon_o his_o sincere_a contrition_n and_o repentance_n this_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o our_o saviour_n xx._n john_n 21._o 21._o xx._n john_n 21._o when_o he_o make_v the_o apostle_n his_o delegate_n say_v as_o my_o father_n have_v send_v i_o even_o so_o send_v i_o you_o which_o suppose_v a_o superior_a power_n to_o they_o in_o who_o name_n they_o act_v only_o as_o minister_n and_o therefore_o when_o he_o add_v in_o the_o next_o word_n 23._o ibid._n v._o 22_o 23._o v._o 22_o 23._o receive_v you_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o sin_n you_o remit_v they_o be_v remit_v etc._n etc._n menochius_fw-la expound_v it_o thus_o that_o though_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v not_o 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8._o when_o the_o multitude_n see_v it_o i._n e._n the_o man_n take_v up_o his_o bed_n and_o walk_v they_o marvel_v and_o glorify_v god_n which_o have_v give_v such_o power_n unto_o man_n he_o add_v as_o to_o forgive_v sin_n whereas_o the_o evangelist_n speak_v of_o the_o power_n of_o heal_v a_o sick_a man_n which_o they_o see_v plain_o and_o which_o our_o saviour_n allege_v as_o a_o argument_n that_o he_o can_v forgive_v sin_n which_o the_o multitude_n can_v see_v no_o other_o way_n but_o in_o this_o miraculous_a demonstration_n of_o it_o but_o suppose_v the_o multitude_n have_v admire_v at_o his_o power_n to_o forgive_v sin_n will_v it_o follow_v that_o any_o body_n else_o have_v that_o power_n which_o christ_n have_v no_o christ_n can_v as_o man_n forgive_v sin_n yet_o not_o as_o any_o sort_n of_o man_n say_v menochius_fw-la deus_fw-la menochius_fw-la non_fw-la ut_fw-la qualiscunque_fw-la homo_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la homo_fw-la deus_fw-la himself_o but_o as_o god-man_n which_o no_o priest_n whatsoever_o be_v he_o bid_v we_o after_o his_o usual_a form_n see_v more_o in_o several_a text_n which_o he_o set_v down_o without_o the_o word_n and_o we_o be_v very_o willing_a to_o obey_v he_o if_o there_o be_v any_o thing_n to_o be_v see_v to_o this_o purpose_n but_o the_o two_o first_o of_o they_o be_v only_o a_o promise_n of_o what_o our_o saviour_n afterward_o bestow_v and_o we_o have_v hear_v what_o that_o be_v from_o xx._n john_n 23._o the_o two_o next_o speak_v not_o of_o forgive_a sin_n nor_o mere_o of_o retain_v they_o but_o of_o deliver_v man_n up_o to_o satan_n which_o no_o body_n now_o can_v do_v 10._o 2_o cor._n ii_o 10._o the_o next_o 2_o cor._n ii_o 10._o prove_n too_o much_o if_o it_o prove_v any_o thing_n to_o this_o purpose_n for_o it_o speak_v of_o the_o whole_a church_n give_v pardon_n to_o a_o offender_n viz._n by_o receive_v he_o again_o by_o the_o apostle_n order_n into_o their_o communion_n 19_o v._o 19_o the_o next_o 2_o cor._n v._o 19_o relate_v to_o the_o apostle_n reconcile_a man_n by_o preach_v the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o menochius_fw-la expound_v it_o or_o if_o by_o word_n of_o reconciliation_n we_o understand_v say_v he_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v reconciliation_n itself_o than_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o the_o whole_a power_n and_o ministry_n of_o reconcile_a man_n to_o god_n the_o last_o place_n out_o of_o v._o numb_a 6._o be_v as_o impertinent_a as_o the_o quotation_n that_o follow_v out_o of_o the_o father_n which_o they_o have_v a_o little_a mend_v since_o bishop_n montague_n lash_v this_o author_n severe_o for_o his_o childish_a and_o careless_a transcription_n of_o they_o out_o of_o father_n bellarmine_n you_o may_v judge_v of_o they_o all_o by_o the_o last_o save_v one_o which_o be_v the_o first_o heretofore_o out_o of_o irenaeus_n l._n v._o c._n 13._o who_o prove_v that_o we_o have_v a_o specimen_fw-la of_o the_o resurrection_n in_o those_o who_o christ_n raise_v from_o the_o dead_a instance_n in_o lazarus_n unto_o who_o he_o say_v come_v forth_o and_o the_o dead_a man_n come_v forth_o bind_v hand_n and_o foot_n etc._n etc._n a_o symbol_n say_v he_o or_o type_n of_o that_o man_n who_o be_v tie_v and_o bind_v in_o sin_n and_o with_o respect_n to_o this_o the_o lord_n say_v loose_v he_o and_o let_v he_o go_v but_o what_o good_a will_v their_o lose_v he_o have_v do_v if_o christ_n have_v not_o first_o raise_v he_o from_o the_o dead_a unto_o who_o power_n not_o they_o all_o that_o follow_v be_v to_o be_v ascribe_v and_o to_o who_o do_v christ_n speak_v when_o he_o bid_v they_o loose_a lazarus_n but_o to_o the_o jew_n who_o be_v present_a as_o maldonate_fw-it one_o of_o their_o own_o good_a writer_n expound_v it_o and_o say_v it_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o all_o good_a author_n except_o austin_n gregory_n and_o bede_n and_o add_v that_o to_o find_v the_o doctrine_n of_o confession_n or_o absolution_n upon_o this_o place_n be_v no_o better_a than_o to_o build_v upon_o sand_n but_o if_o it_o be_v suppose_v that_o he_o here_o speak_v to_o his_o apostle_n and_o bid_v they_o loose_v he_o still_o it_o can_v figure_v no_o more_o but_o a_o declaration_n of_o pardon_n of_o sin_n grant_v already_o by_o the_o mercy_n of_o the_o almighty_a what_o st._n austin_n therefore_o say_v in_o the_o place_n which_o this_o man_n mention_n first_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n for_o it_o be_v the_o very_a same_o with_o this_o of_o irenaeus_n for_o have_v say_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o that_o tractate_n john_n tractate_n tract_n xlix_o in_o john_n that_o the_o work_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v not_o only_a facta_fw-la but_o signa_fw-la and_o show_v how_o the_o three_o person_n raise_v by_o he_o from_o the_o dead_a signify_v the_o raise_n up_o three_o degree_n of_o sinner_n out_o of_o their_o sin_n when_o he_o come_v to_o this_o passage_n in_o the_o story_n of_o lazarus_n resurrection_n loose_v he_o and_o let_v he_o go_v he_o say_v what_o be_v loose_v he_o etc._n etc._n but_o what_o you_o lose_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n and_o let_v it_o be_v so_o that_o our_o lord_n word_n fit_o represent_v this_o yet_o still_o it_o be_v god_n that_o proper_o lose_a man_n from_o their_o sin_n the_o apostle_n be_v but_o minister_n in_o this_o business_n who_o declare_v what_o god_n have_v grant_v as_o god_n raise_v up_o lazarus_n from_o the_o dead_a they_o only_o untie_v he_o after_o he_o have_v real_o make_v he_o alive_a and_o raise_v he_o out_o of_o his_o grave_n all_o the_o rest_n out_o of_o the_o father_n be_v no_o better_a than_o this_o and_o therefore_o i_o will_v not_o trouble_v the_o reader_n with_o it_o but_o pass_v to_o the_o next_o where_o he_o make_v we_o say_v xv._o that_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o confess_v
our_o sin_n to_o any_o man_n but_o to_o god_n only_o answer_n this_o be_v a_o most_o impudent_a falsehood_n for_o we_o press_v this_o as_o a_o duty_n in_o some_o case_n for_o the_o quiet_v of_o man_n conscience_n when_o they_o be_v burden_a with_o gild_n particular_o before_o they_o receive_v the_o communion_n and_o when_o they_o be_v sick_a but_o that_o which_o we_o affirm_v in_o this_o matter_n be_v that_o god_n do_v not_o require_v all_o christian_n to_o make_v a_o particular_a confession_n private_o to_o a_o priest_n of_o every_o sin_n he_o have_v commit_v though_o only_o in_o thought_n under_o pain_n of_o be_v damn_v if_o he_o do_v not_o much_o less_o do_v we_o believe_v such_o confession_n to_o be_v meritorious_a and_o satisfactory_a for_o sin_n nor_o do_v the_o scripture_n which_o he_o quote_v prove_v a_o syllable_n of_o this_o doctrine_n the_o first_o he_o allege_v iii_o matth._n 5_o 6._o 6._o matth._n iii_o 5_o 6._o speak_v of_o those_o who_o confess_v their_o sin_n before_o 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