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A31663 An impartial account of the Portsmouth disputation with some just reflections on Dr. Russel's pretended narrative : with an abrigdment of those discourses that were the innocent occasion of that disputation / by Samuel Chandler, William Leigh, Benjamin Robinson. Chandler, Samuel.; Leigh, William.; Robinson, Benjamin, 1666-1724. 1699 (1699) Wing C1933; ESTC R24745 96,620 125

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that_o all_o be_v not_o to_o be_v complete_a disciple_n before_o baptise_a or_o that_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v actual_o teach_v rus._n i_o know_v not_o what_o you_o mean_v by_o disciple_n complete_a disciple_n a_o person_n may_v be_v a_o disciple_n twenty_o year_n before_o he_o be_v a_o complete_a one_o if_o our_o lord_n require_v none_o to_o be_v baptise_a by_o the_o commission_n but_o such_o as_o he_o command_v to_o be_v make_v disciple_n before_o he_o command_v they_o to_o be_v baptise_v than_o what_o i_o say_v be_v true_a but_o our_o lord_n require_v 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n therefore_o leigh_n i_o deny_v your_o minor_n rus._n i_o will_v read_v the_o commission_n mat._n 28.18_o 〈◊〉_d and_o jesus_n come_v and_o speak_v to_o they_o say_v all_o powe●'s_v give_v unto_o i_o in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n ●o_o you_o therefore_o and_o teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o etc._n etc._n teach_v they_o to_o observe_v all_o thing_n etc._n etc._n this_o commission_n be_v very_o solemn_o give_v 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if_o there_o be_v a_o express_a command_n for_o the_o baptise_v some_o person_n in_o christ_n commission_n and_o there_o be_v no_o express_a command_n neither_o there_o nor_o elsewhere_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n than_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o contain_v in_o this_o commission_n but_o there_o be_v a_o express_a command_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o leigh_n pray_v observe_v it_o whereas_o good_a consequence_n be_v but_o now_o allow_v with_o great_a difficulty_n now_o it_o be_v deny_v he_o require_v a_o express_a command_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v if_o nation_n do_v include_v infant_n than_o there_o be_v a_o plain_a command_n chand_n we_o deny_v the_o consequence_n of_o your_o major_n and_o then_o we_o deny_v your_o minor_n rus._n my_o argument_n be_v this_o again_o if_o there_o be_v a_o express_a command_n in_o christ_n commission_n etc._n etc._n they_o deny_v the_o sequel_n of_o my_o major_n and_o by_o thus_o deny_v do_v say_v 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word_n of_o the_o commission_n be_v a_o express_a command_n to_o the_o apostle_n of_o our_o lord_n to_o direct_v they_o who_o they_o shall_v baptize_v than_o the_o minor_a be_v true_a but_o the_o word_n of_o the_o commission_n be_v etc._n etc._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n leigh_n i_o deny_v your_o minor_n rus._n if_o there_o be_v no_o other_o commission_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n j._n c._n for_o holy_a baptism_n but_o what_o be_v record_v mat._n 28._o mar._n 16._o then_o the_o minor_a be_v true_a but_o there_o be_v no_o other_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n leigh_n i_o deny_v the_o sequel_n of_o the_o major_a rus._n we_o be_v now_o upon_o the_o commission_n leigh_n that_o we_o be_v and_o we_o say_v that_o whatever_o by_o good_a consequence_n be_v fair_o deducible_a from_o the_o commission_n be_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o it_o rus._n they_o be_v not_o to_o baptize_v any_o but_o such_o as_o they_o be_v express_o command_v so_o to_o do_v leigh_n i_o deny_v it_o rus._n 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those_o they_o be_v require_v to_o baptize_v etc._n etc._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n chand_n i_o deny_v the_o minor_n leigh_n i_o distinguish_v between_o the_o command_n be_v be_v express_v and_o the_o subject_n of_o it_o chand_n prove_v that_o all_o the_o subject_n be_v express_v rus._n if_o the_o word_n in_o the_o commission_n about_o holy_a baptism_n be_v a_o command_n of_o christ_n to_o the_o apostle_n confusion_n than_o my_o minor_n be_v true_a but_o they_o be_v a_o command_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o leigh_n we_o allow_v it_o be_v a_o command_n but_o deny_v that_o all_o the_o subject_n be_v express_v i_o say_v i_o allow_v the_o command_n to_o be_v express_v but_o deny_v that_o all_o the_o subject_n be_v express_v some_o be_v take_v in_o by_o good_a consequence_n rus._n if_o christ_n have_v command_v his_o apostle_n to_o baptise_v such_o as_o do_v believe_v and_o be_v make_v disciple_n than_o such_o be_v to_o be_v baptise_a but_o &c_n &c_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n l._n i_o find_v in_o the_o first_o place_n a_o fault_n with_o your_o syllogism_n the_o major_a aught_o to_o be_v universal_a whereas_o it_o be_v such_o as_o do_v believe_v be_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n it_o ought_v to_o be_v such_o be_v the_o only_a or_o all_o the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n and_o thus_o in_o the_o second_o place_n i_o deny_v the_o sequel_n w●●l_n then_o i_o be_o to_o prove_v that_o believer_n only_o be_v intend_v if_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a person_n that_o be_v include_v in_o the_o commission_n than_o no_o other_o person_n be_v but_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a &c_n &c_n therefore_o l._n i_o deny_v your_o minor_n w._n i_o will_v prove_v it_o in_o mark_n 16._o last_o he_o that_o believe_v be_v baptise_a etc._n etc._n hence_o i_o argue_v that_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a subject_n to_o be_v baptise_a l._n to_o this_o i_o answer_v first_o if_o previous_a actual_a believe_a be_v make_v universal_o necessary_a to_o baptism_n it_o be_v much_o more_o so_o to_o salvation_n and_o consequent_o no_o infant_n can_v be_v save_v for_o the_o follow_a word_n be_v be_v that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v rus._n i_o do_v not_o affirm_v any_o such_o thing_n i_o will_v rather_o say_v that_o all_o infant_n die_v in_o their_o infancy_n be_v elect_a and_o so_o save_v the_o contrary_a to_o which_o i_o believe_v mr._n chandler_n '_o can_v prove_v d●n●_n l._n yes_o we_o know_v your_o opinion_n about_o this_o well_o enough_o i_o have_v your_o confession_n in_o my_o ecclet_n but_o if_o you_o will_v assert_v that_o actual_a believe_v be_v necessary_a to_o baptism_n then_o it_o be_v so_o to_o salvation_n for_o it_o follow_v he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v wil._n if_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a subject_n of_o baptism_n according_a to_o the_o commission_n than_o infant_n be_v not_o the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n but_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a subject_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n l._n i_o deny_v your_o minor_n wil._n then_o pray_v show_v 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christ._n but_o etc._n etc._n l._n i_o deny_v the_o consequence_n of_o your_o major_n that_o because_o they_o be_v uncapable_a of_o learning_n christ_n therefore_o they_o be_v uncapable_a of_o be_v disciple_v to_o christ._n will._n i_o say_v if_o infant_n be_v not_o the_o subject_n in_o the_o commission_n before_o neither_o be_v capable_a of_o be_v teach_v and_o instruct_v than_o they_o be_v not_o the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n but_o &c_n &c_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n l._n i_o deny_v that_o they_o be_v not_o the_o subject_n and_o the_o greek_a word_n signify'_v to_o make_v disciple_n i_o deny_v that_o they_o be_v uncapable_a of_o be_v make_v disciple_n because_o not_o capable_a of_o learning_n wil._n if_o to_o be_v a_o disciple_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v a_o scholar_n of_o christ_n than_o infant_n that_o be_v uncapable_a of_o learning_n christ_n can_v be_v no_o disciple_n but_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n l._n i_o deny_v still_o the_o sequel_n of_o the_o major_a will_v 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gender_n for_o a_o boy_n of_o 12_o year_n of_o age_n that_o have_v look_v into_o the_o greek_a can_v tell_v you_o that_o such_o a_o synthesis_n be_v frequent_o to_o be_v meet_v with_o in_o the_o greek_a wil._n if_o infant_n be_v uncapable_a of_o deny_v themselves_o for_o christ_n than_o they_o be_v uncapable_a of_o be_v disciple_n to_o christ._n but_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n l._n i_o deny_v the_o sequel_n of_o the_o major_a will._n i_o prove_v it_o out_o of_o luke_n 14._o if_o he_o do_v not_o deny_v himself_o he_o can_v be_v christ_n disciple_n l._n this_o pure_o refer_v to_o the_o adult_n and_o i_o will_v argue_v ab_fw-la absurdo_fw-la 3.10_o if_o any_o work_v not_o let_v he_o not_o eat_v but_o infant_n can_v alike_o work_v therefore_o they_o must_v not_o eat_v but_o both_o one_o text_n and_o the_o other_o refer_v to_o the_o adult_n p●●ly_o rus._n what_o be_v all_o this_o we_o do_v say_v that_o infant_n be_v not_o at_o all_o concern_v in_o the_o commission_n mat._n 28.19_o because_o they_o can_v perform_v the_o prerequisites_n faith_n and_o repentance_n therefore_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o baptism_n now_o if_o you_o will_v say_v that_o incapable_a person_n be_v intend_v in_o the_o commission_n than_o i_o hope_v you_o may_v put_v that_o upon_o yourselves_o then_o you_o must_v argue_v infant_n must_v be_v starve_v to_o death_n because_o they_o will_v not_o work_v i_o demand_v of_o any_o of_o you_o to_o give_v a_o instance_n of_o any_o one_o scripture_n that_o speak_v of_o baptism_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o do_v respect_v any_o other_o but_o adult_n person_n nauseam_fw-la will._n if_o the_o essence_n of_o faith_n consist_v in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o understanding_n and_o will_n than_o infant_n be_v incapable_a of_o be_v disciple_n but_o &_o o._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n l._n i_o deny_v the_o sequel_n of_o the_o major_n viz._n that_o infant_n be_v uncapable_a of_o be_v disciple_n will._n if_o a_o disciple_n and_o a_o believer_n be_v 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