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A71108 The reflections on the XXVIII propositions touching the doctrine of the Trinity, in a letter to the clergy, &c. maintain'd, against the Third defence of the said propositions by the same hand. Tindal, Matthew, 1653?-1733. 1695 (1695) Wing T1304; ESTC R4525 56,470 59

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