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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v signify_v but_o in_o no_o place_n next_o i_o only_o say_v it_o be_v common_o by_o our_o adversary_n understand_v so_o here_o and_o consequent_o make_v a_o adversative_a particle_n contrary_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o text_n and_o all_o translation_n that_o i_o have_v ever_o see_v or_o hear_v of_o it_o have_v be_v to_o his_o purpose_n if_o he_o have_v bring_v stephanus_n pastor_n schrevelius_n scapula_n and_o leigh_n to_o prove_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d aught_o to_o be_v render_v but_o in_o this_o text_n in_o order_n to_o make_v good_a his_o adversative_a particle_n thereby_o quarrel_v the_o translation_n and_o continue_v a_o comparison_n not_o well_o consistent_a with_o the_o text._n again_o reply_v pag._n 83_o 84._o but_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shall_v be_v render_v in_o that_o positive_a degree_n not_o comparative_a w._n p._n produce_v some_o authority_n the_o syriak_a and_o ethiopic_a version_n which_o give_v he_o 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