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A72851 Via devia: the by-vvay mis-leading the weake and vnstable into dangerous paths of error, by colourable shewes of apocryphall scriptures, vnwritten traditions, doubtfull Fathers, ambiguous councells, and pretended catholike Church. Discouered by Humfrey Lynde, Knight. Lynde, Humphrey, Sir. 1630 (1630) STC 17095; ESTC S122509 200,884 790

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