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A34032 A modest and true account of the chief points in controversie between the Roman Catholics and the Protestants together with some considerations upon the sermons of a divine of the Church of England / by N.C. Nary, Cornelius, 1660-1738.; Colson, Nicholas. 1696 (1696) Wing C5422; ESTC R35598 162,211 316

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not_o have_v be_v the_o figure_n of_o his_o body_n if_o there_o have_v not_o be_v a_o true_a and_o real_a body_n advers._fw-la martion_n l._n 4._o here_o tertullian_n seem_v to_o insinuate_v that_o the_o eucharist_n be_v the_o figure_n of_o christ_n body_n 318._o vol._n 3._o pag._n 318._o 2._o st._n austin_n seem_v to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o opinion_n our_o lord_n say_v he_o do_v not_o doubt_v to_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n when_o he_o give_v the_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n lib._n contra_fw-la adimant_n 3._o theodoret_n speak_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n in_o his_o second_o dialogue_n between_o a_o catholic_a 324._o vol._n 3._o pag._n 324._o under_o the_o name_n of_o orthodoxus_n and_o a_o heretic_n under_o the_o name_n of_o eraniste_n where_o he_o make_v eraniste_n speak_v these_o word_n as_o the_o symbol_n of_o the_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n be_v one_o thing_n before_o the_o
invocation_n of_o the_o priest_n but_o after_o the_o invocation_n be_v change_v and_o become_v a_o other_o thing_n so_o the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n after_o his_o ascension_n be_v change_v into_o the_o divine_a substance_n to_o which_o the_o catholic_a orthodoxus_n answer_v thus_o thou_o be_v catch_v in_o thy_o own_o net_n because_o the_o mystical_a symbol_n after_o consecration_n do_v not_o pass_v out_o of_o their_o own_o nature_n for_o they_o remain_v in_o their_o former_a substance_n figure_n and_o appearance_n and_o may_v be_v see_v and_o handle_v as_o before_o 325._o pag._n 325._o 4._o pope_n gelasius_n seem_v to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n sure_o say_v he_o the_o sacrament_n which_o we_o receive_v of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v a_o divine_a thing_n so_o that_o by_o they_o we_o be_v make_v partaker_n of_o a_o divine_a nature_n and_o yet_o it_o cease_v not_o to_o be_v the_o substance_n or_o nature_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o certain_o the_o 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this_o flesh_n as_o man_n do_v that_o which_o be_v fold_n in_o the_o shambles_n very_o careful_a to_o conceal_v this_o mystery_n and_o to_o write_v nothing_o that_o be_v to_o be_v expose_v to_o the_o infidel_n which_o may_v seem_v to_o insinuate_v any_o such_o doctrine_n be_v content_a to_o glance_v at_o it_o and_o when_o they_o must_v to_o deliver_v their_o thought_n obscure_o know_v very_o well_o that_o by_o this_o prudent_a conduct_n the_o pagan_n will_v have_v no_o just_a reason_n to_o reproach_v they_o and_o the_o christian_n who_o be_v careful_o instruct_v in_o this_o point_n will_v easy_o understand_v what_o they_o hint_v at_o so_o that_o in_o their_o treatise_n against_o heretic_n in_o the_o book_n they_o must_v have_v expose_v to_o public_a view_n for_o the_o comfort_n and_o instruction_n of_o the_o christian_n and_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o gentile_n but_o more_o especial_o in_o their_o public_a sermon_n and_o homily_n where_o they_o apprehend_v any_o pagan_n be_v 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mystery_n in_o obscure_a word_n and_o then_o add_v these_o fame_a word_n nôrunt_fw-la fideles_fw-la nôrunt_fw-la fideles_fw-la quod_fw-la dico_fw-la the_o faithful_a know_v the_o faithful_a know_v what_o i_o say_v thus_o theodoret_n in_o that_o very_a dialogue_n object_v by_o the_o doctor_n put_v these_o word_n in_o orthodoxus_n his_o mouth_n oro_fw-la te_fw-la ut_fw-la obscurius_fw-la respondeas_fw-la adsunt_fw-la enim_fw-la fortasse_fw-la aliqui_fw-la mysteriis_fw-la non_fw-la initiati_fw-la i_o beseech_v you_o answer_v more_o obscure_o for_o there_o be_v some_o perhaps_o here_o present_a who_o be_v not_o initiate_v in_o the_o mystery_n this_o he_o say_v because_o they_o be_v about_o to_o talk_v of_o the_o eucharist_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o word_n of_o the_o dialogue_n eraniste_n answer_v he_o sic_fw-la audiam_fw-la &_o sic_fw-la respondebo_fw-la so_o i_o will_v hear_v and_o so_o i_o will_v answer_v it_o be_v needless_a to_o bring_v any_o more_o authority_n from_o father_n to_o 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they_o be_v by_o no_o mean_n admit_v to_o be_v present_a nor_o as_o much_o as_o know_v any_o thing_n of_o it_o but_o be_v dismiss_v and_o exclude_v from_o that_o part_n of_o the_o service_n till_o by_o long_a and_o careful_a instruction_n they_o be_v deem_v competent_a canon_n competent_a hence_o the_o name_n of_o competentes_fw-la &_o missa_fw-la catechume_n norum_fw-la so_o often_o mention_v by_o the_o canon_n to_o assist_v at_o it_o as_o they_o then_o phrased_a it_o so_o careful_a be_v the_o primitive_a father_n that_o none_o shall_v come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o this_o mystery_n but_o such_o as_o be_v very_o well_o dispose_v to_o believe_v and_o embrace_v it_o and_o now_o can_v any_o man_n of_o sense_n imagine_v that_o these_o holy_a and_o learned_a father_n shall_v keep_v such_o a_o stir_n about_o the_o eucharist_n or_o be_v so_o careful_a to_o conceal_v it_o be_v it_o but_o a_o type_n or_o figure_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n what_o be_v more_o easy_a to_o be_v believe_v than_o that_o bread_n represent_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o wine_n his_o blood_n and_o that_o both_o be_v take_v in_o remembrance_n of_o his_o death_n and_o passion_n sure_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o the_o world_n so_o easy_a to_o be_v persuade_v since_o all_o mankind_n know_v that_o such_o arbitrary_a sign_n or_o representation_n depend_v mere_o of_o the_o will_n of_o he_o that_o institute_n they_o and_o that_o there_o be_v nothing_o to_o be_v do_v to_o persuade_v their_o belief_n but_o to_o tell_v that_o they_o be_v so_o certain_o no_o pagan_a or_o gentil_n can_v ever_o be_v offend_v at_o a_o thing_n so_o plain_a or_o offer_v the_o least_o reproach_n to_o the_o christian_a religion_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o it_o consequent_o there_o will_v be_v no_o need_n to_o conceal_v or_o speak_v obscure_o of_o it_o nor_o to_o hinder_v not_o only_o catechuman_n but_o even_o pagan_n or_o infidel_n to_o hear_v it_o teach_v and_o deliver_v but_o to_o proceed_v 2._o what_o
they_o in_o the_o venerable_a and_o dreadful_a mystery_n for_o shame_v doctor_n away_o with_o such_o unchristian_a scandal_n and_o do_v not_o put_v we_o upon_o expose_v your_o credit_n and_o character_n any_o far_o but_o perhaps_o the_o legacy_n leave_v for_o the_o bire_v of_o priest_n as_o he_o odd_o phrase_n it_o to_o say_v mass_n for_o the_o delivery_n of_o soul_n out_o of_o the_o place_n of_o torment_n will_v mend_v the_o matter_n indeed_o if_o the_o priest_n be_v allow_v to_o determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n the_o thing_n come_v from_o the_o doctor_n will_v not_o appear_v altogether_o so_o unreasonable_a for_o consider_v how_o very_o remarkable_a his_o charity_n be_v to_o priest_n i_o do_v not_o question_v he_o will_v judge_v they_o will_v deal_v well_o for_o themselves_o have_v they_o but_o the_o handle_n of_o these_o matter_n but_o it_o be_v no_o less_o evident_a that_o no_o simple_a priest_n have_v ever_o yet_o have_v any_o vote_n in_o declare_v matter_n of_o faith_n than_o that_o no_o other_o be_v hire_v as_o he_o call_v it_o or_o will_v receive_v any_o money_n for_o say_v mass_n for_o the_o live_n or_o the_o dead_a but_o the_o poor_a or_o more_o indigent_a sort_n of_o priest_n who_o have_v not_o a_o sufficient_a patrimony_n or_o maintenance_n to_o subsist_v without_o it_o and_o the_o matter_n be_v undeniable_o so_o where_o be_v the_o conscience_n in_o say_v that_o the_o council_n and_o prelate_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v possess_v the_o people_n with_o the_o fear_n of_o purgatory_n only_o to_o oblige_v they_o to_o hire_v some_o indigent_a priest_n to_o say_v mass_n for_o their_o soul_n but_o the_o scandal_n be_v so_o gross_a and_o palpable_a that_o the_o best_a answer_n i_o can_v make_v it_o be_v to_o contemn_v it_o the_o doctor_n have_v some_o two_o or_o three_o objection_n more_o upon_o this_o subject_a but_o they_o be_v either_o solve_v in_o the_o proof_n bring_v for_o this_o point_n or_o coincident_a with_o those_o objection_n already_o speak_v to_o or_o else_o have_v no_o particular_a difficulty_n and_o so_o i_o take_v leave_n of_o he_o for_o this_o time_n chap._n x._o of_o indulgence_n the_o power_n of_o indulgence_n be_v found_v in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n wherewith_o jesus_n christ_n be_v please_v to_o intrust_v the_o pastor_n and_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n by_o which_o emblem_n of_o key_n be_v denote_v the_o power_n of_o open_v and_o shut_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n of_o let_v in_o and_o keep_v out_o as_o christian_n shall_v be_v find_v worthy_a of_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o this_o power_n be_v promise_v to_o saint_n peter_n in_o a_o special_a manner_n and_o in_o his_o person_n to_o all_o his_o lawful_a successor_n in_o these_o word_n i_o say_v unto_o thou_o that_o thou_o be_v peter●_n i._n e._n a_o rock_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n and_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o and_o i_o will_v give_v unto_o thou_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v bind_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v loose_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n mat._n 16.18.19_o again_o the_o promise_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v be_v make_v in_o another_o place_n to_o all_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o same_o word_n very_o i_o say_v unto_o you_o whatsoever_o you_o bound_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o you_o lose_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n matt._n 18.18_o and_o christ_n a_o little_a before_o his_o ascension_n actual_o confer_v this_o power_n upon_o they_o and_o tell_v they_o wherein_o it_o consist_v receive_v you_o the_o holy-ghost_n whosoever_o sin_n you_o remit_v they_o be_v remit_v unto_o they_o and_o whosoever_o sin_n you_o retain_v they_o be_v retain_v joa_n 20.22_o 23._o so_o that_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n consist_v in_o remit_v of_o sin_n and_o retain_v they_o that_o be_v in_o lose_v man_n from_o those_o band_n of_o iniquity_n wherewith_o they_o tie_v themselves_o and_o in_o bind_v they_o up_o or_o keep_v they_o bind_v till_o they_o have_v satisfy_v for_o their_o sin_n according_a to_o the_o rule_v prescribe_v for_o that_o purpose_n in_o a_o word_n in_o open_v the_o gate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o let_v some_o in_o and_o in_o shut_v the_o same_o and_o exclude_v other_o as_o they_o shall_v be_v find_v to_o have_v deserve_v it_o but_o whereas_o our_o bless_a saviour_n do_v not_o intend_v that_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n shall_v bind_v sinner_n so_o as_o final_o to_o exclude_v they_o from_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n but_o only_o to_o keep_v they_o under_o discipline_n for_o a_o time_n till_o they_o have_v fulfil_v the_o term_n of_o the_o covenant_n upon_o which_o he_o offer_v they_o salvation_n which_o consist_v in_o obedience_n to_o his_o law_n in_o repentance_n and_o satisfaction_n for_o their_o sin_n and_o amendment_n of_o 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