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A32964 Reasons of a challenge sent to the universities of England, in matters of religion by Edmund Campion ; faithfully translated into English. Campion, Edmund, Saint, 1540-1581. 1687 (1687) Wing C407; ESTC R12917 29,015 40

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of Sin being bad do much Philosophize of Divine Grace which can heal and succour this Sin But Graces do assign those famous parts which they report neito be infused in our hearts nor be of force to resist wickedness but are placed without us in the favour of God alone which favour cannot amend the Wicked nor cleanse them nor illuminate them nor enrich them but the old Sink as yet remaining and waxing rank that it should not seem stinking and odious God winking at it they conceal With this their Sophism they are so delighted that with them indeed Christ cannot be said to be full of Grace and Truth than that God the Father hath favoured him in a wonderful manner What then therefore is justice A relation for 't is not trimm'd up out of Theological Virtues Faith Hope and Charity which do cloath the mind with its splendour but only the hiding a fault which could he that hath Faith alone comprehend he is sure of Salvation and e're long will enjoy the infinite joy of Heaven Let it be so let this sleep but how will it be evident concerning future Perseverance which whosoever wants makes an unhappy Exit although for a time he worships Justice purely and piously Yea truly this is thy Faith Calvin says so unless he firmly foretels thy Perseverance to thee as thou canst not be deceiv'd thou wouldest be despis'd as empty and faint And again Luther A Christian also says he cannot willingly lose Salvation unless he will not believe I hasten to the Sacraments none none not two not one O Christ have they left for their Bread is Poyson Baptism although it be yet true yet in their judgment 't is nothing 't is not the Water of Health nor the Channel of Grace it doth not derive Christs Merits unto us but it is only a signification of Health therefore they make no more of the Baptism of Christ according to the nature of the thing than the ceremony of John If you have it well if you want it no loss believe thou art sav'd before thou art wash'd What then the Infants who unless they are sav'd by their own Faith to their own misery obtain nothing Rather than we should attribute any thing to the Sacrament of Baptism say the Magdeburgici we grant that there is Faith in Infants by which they may be saved they understand some hidden impulsions of Faith that they live and do not as yet understand is hard If this be so hard hearken to the Physick of Luther It is better to omit it since that unless an Infant believes he cannot be wash'd These things they say being doubtful in mind they affirm any thing categorically Therefore Baltasar Pacimentanus the parter of strife intervenes who being the Parent of the Anabaptists could not feign the motion of Faith in Infants approv'd of Luthers caution and casting Paedo-baptism out of the Churches he decreed that no body should be wash'd in the Holy Font unless ripe of age That which appertains to the rest of the Sacraments although the many-headed Beast may cast out horrid Contumelies yet because they are daily buzz'd in their Ears I pass it by here The most Nocent fragments of the Lives and Manners of Heriticks which Luther has spew'd out in his writings that with one impure Gale of his Breath he would breath the Plague into his Readers hear patiently and blush and pardon me which recites them if a Wife will not or cannot let the Maid come for to have to do with a Wife is as necessary as Meat Drink Sleep Matrimony is much more excellent than Virginity St. Paul hath disswaded Christians from it But these things perhaps are proper only to Luther They are not even now it was defended by Chark but miserably and fearfully Will you have any more What else By how much the more Wicked you are so much the nearer Grace All good actions God being judge are Mortal Sins God being favourable are light ones no body thinks evil at his own will The Decalogue is nothing to Christians God doth not regard our Works Those only rightly partake of the Lords Supper who bring sad afflicted troubled confused wandring Consciences Crimes are to be confessed but to whom If any have absolv'd thee even in a jest you are absolv'd in case you have believ'd To read hourly Prayers is not the part of Priests but of the Laity Christian Children are from the Statutes of Men. I have stirr'd this Sink enough and too much now I will end neither truly can you think me more unjust who have promiscuously reproved the Lutherans and Zuinglians for they being mindful from whence they sprung would be Brethren and Friends amongst themselves and interpret it a grievous injury when they are discriminated in any thing besides one Truly I am not of such a value that I should take a mean place to my self amongst the select Divines who have to day proclaim'd War against Heresies but this I know of how great value soever I am I cannot be in danger whilst supported by Christs Grace I will Heaven and Earth helping me maintain the War against such Devices so envious so dull and so brutish The Ninth Reason 'T IS well known that among the Blind somtimes the Moon-Eye reigns amongst the Ignorant oftentimes a Fallacious Disputation is prevalent which is hiss'd out in the Schools Our Adversaries offend much in this kind but for the most part 't is tack'd together with 4 Fallacies which I had rather unfold in the University than in the Street The first Schiamachia which beats the Ears with a great blustering in this manner In unmarried men sworn and vowed unto Chastity that Marriage is good but Virginity is better Scriptures are brought speaking honourably of Marriage whom do they fight against The desert of a Christian Man dy'd with Christs Blood otherwise there are no Testimonies drawn by which we are commanded not to trust to Nature nor the Law but the Blood of Christ Whom do they argue against Against those who Worship Saints as the most gracious Servants of Christ there are whole Pages cited which forbid them to Worship many Gods Where are they These Arguments which as I find are infinite among Hereticks cannot be to our damage it may be for you an object of Derision Another Vice is Logomachy which deserting the Senses do quarrel with a word Shew me the Mass or Purgatory in Holy Scriptures What then Trinity 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Person are no where in the Bibles because they are not words a carping at Letters is a kin to this when custom and mind of speakers being neglected that which is the life of the word is contended with the Elements For so they say Presbyter is nothing else in Greek than Seniour the Sacrament any Mystery But D. Thomas says in words we must take heed that all things are not taken so much ex quo as ad quid The third