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from_o the_o scripture_n saint_n paul_n use_v this_o word_n coloss._n 2.12_o we_o be_v bury_v with_o he_o through_o baptism_n and_o again_o heb._n 6.2_o all_o the_o question_n be_v about_o the_o definition_n of_o baptism_n the_o papist_n error_n 98_o they_o define_v baptism_n to_o be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n by_o water_n in_o the_o word_n that_o be_v not_o which_o signify_v and_o seal_v unto_o we_o our_o regeneration_n and_o assure_v we_o of_o remission_n of_o sin_n but_o actual_o justifi_v and_o regenerate_v we_o bellarm._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr baptism_n cap._n 1._o the_o protestant_n we_o rather_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n define_v baptism_n to_o be_v a_o sign_n or_o seal_n of_o our_o regeneration_n and_o new_a birth_n whereby_o we_o be_v assure_v that_o as_o very_o by_o faith_n in_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n we_o be_v cleanse_v from_o our_o sin_n as_o our_o body_n be_v wash_v with_o water_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n so_o 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tradition_n that_o this_o very_a form_n of_o word_n be_v to_o be_v keep_v bellarmine_n the_o baptism_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 3._o the_o protestant_n we_o need_v no_o tradition_n for_o this_o matter_n the_o very_a form_n which_o be_v to_o be_v use_v in_o baptism_n be_v plain_o prove_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n for_o that_o commandment_n of_o christ_n go_v and_o baptize_v etc._n etc._n do_v necessary_o imply_v a_o form_n of_o speech_n to_o be_v use_v we_o grant_v that_o in_o the_o scripture_n this_o word_n name_n be_v take_v for_o power_n virtue_n authority_n as_o act._n 3.6_o in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n arise_v and_o walk_v so_o also_o as_o there_o be_v a_o baptism_n with_o water_n there_o may_v be_v a_o baptise_v with_o fire_n matth._n 3.11_o wherefore_o if_o part_n of_o the_o commandment_n be_v to_o be_v take_v proper_o and_o literal_o as_o this_o go_v and_o baptize_v why_o not_o the_o rest_n also_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n if_o then_o the_o whole_a commandment_n be_v proper_o and_o plain_o understand_v how_o can_v they_o baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o trinity_n unless_o the_o trinity_n be_v speak_v and_o name_v second_o it_o appear_v also_o out_o of_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n that_o this_o form_n be_v use_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n as_o act._n 10.47_o can_v any_o man_n forbid_v water_n why_o these_o shall_v not_o be_v baptize_v which_o have_v receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n as_o well_o as_o we_o as_o if_o saint_n peter_n shall_v have_v reason_v thus_o these_o have_v receive_v the_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n ergo_fw-la they_o may_v be_v also_o baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n likewise_o act._n 19.2_o when_o the_o brethren_n at_o ephesus_n have_v answer_v paul_n that_o they_o have_v not_o hear_v whether_o there_o be_v a_o holy_a ghost_n he_o say_v unto_o they_o unto_o what_o then_o be_v you_o baptize_v by_o this_o interrogatory_n it_o appear_v it_o be_v their_o manner_n to_o baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o so_o consequent_o of_o the_o whole_a trinity_n we_o have_v no_o cause_n then_o to_o fly_v unto_o tradition_n this_o matter_n be_v so_o plain_o decide_v by_o the_o scripture_n augustin_n tract_n in_o johann_n 80._o upon_o those_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n john_n 15.3_o you_o be_v clean_o through_o the_o word_n which_o i_o have_v speak_v unto_o you_o detrahe_fw-la verbum_fw-la &_o quid_fw-la est_fw-la aqua_fw-la nisi_fw-la aqua_fw-la accedit_fw-la verbum_fw-la ad_fw-la elementum_fw-la &_o fit_a sacramentum_fw-la take_v away_o the_o word_n and_o what_o remain_v in_o baptism_n but_o bare_a water_n let_v the_o word_n be_v join_v to_o the_o element_n and_o it_o make_v a_o sacrament_n the_o form_n then_o of_o baptism_n be_v the_o word_n which_o christ_n
only_o faith_n but_o love_n or_o charity_n obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n bellarm._n ibid._n rhemist_n in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la the_o protestant_n ans._n the_o argument_n be_v not_o from_o the_o cause_n to_o the_o effect_n but_o from_o the_o effect_n to_o the_o cause_n for_o christ_n do_v not_o reason_n thus_o she_o love_v much_o therefore_o many_o sin_n be_v forgive_v she_o but_o contrariwise_o many_o sin_n be_v forgive_v she_o therefore_o she_o love_v much_o as_o the_o next_o word_n declare_v to_o who_o little_o be_v remit_v he_o love_v little_a and_o our_o saviour_n say_v in_o plain_a word_n in_o the_o last_o verse_n that_o her_o faith_n have_v save_v she_o whereof_o her_o love_n be_v a_o effect_n argum._n that_o the_o contrition_n of_o the_o heart_n be_v no_o mean_n of_o our_o justification_n nor_o a_o merit_a cause_n or_o procure_v of_o remission_n of_o sin_n saint_n paul_n show_v rom._n 4.5_o 6._o to_o he_o that_o believe_v faith_n be_v count_v for_o righteousness_n and_o david_n declare_v the_o blessedness_n of_o that_o man_n to_o who_o god_n impute_v righteousness_n without_o work_n it_o be_v faith_n then_o only_o that_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n and_o a_o man_n be_v justify_v without_o any_o respect_n have_v to_o his_o work_n therefore_o neither_o contrition_n nor_o any_o other_o work_v inward_a or_o outward_a procure_v remission_n of_o sin_n but_o faith_n only_o be_v the_o mean_a so_o augustine_n say_v opera_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la iustificatum_fw-la non_fw-la praecedunt_fw-la iustificandum_fw-la work_n follow_v a_o man_n already_o justify_v they_o go_v not_o before_o to_o justification_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o operib_n cap._n 14._o therefore_o the_o work_n of_o contrition_n be_v not_o available_a to_o justification_n the_o papist_n 5._o contrition_n they_o say_v be_v not_o necessary_a for_o venial_a or_o small_a offence_n neither_o error_n 11_o be_v a_o man_n bind_v thereunto_o so._n lib._n 4._o distinct_a 17._o articul_fw-la 3._o the_o protestant_n this_o assertion_n be_v clean_o contrary_a to_o scripture_n for_o the_o prophet_n david_n pray_v not_o only_o to_o be_v keep_v from_o presumptuous_a sin_n psalm_n 19.13_o but_o even_o to_o be_v cleanse_v from_o his_o secret_a fault_n vers_fw-la 12._o augustine_n agree_v non_fw-la solum_fw-la propter_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la huius_fw-la ignorantiam_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la propter_fw-la ipsum_fw-la puluerem_fw-la mundi_fw-la huius_fw-la qui_fw-la pedibus_fw-la adhaerescit_fw-la quotidianam_fw-la habere_fw-la debemus_fw-la poenitentiam_fw-la not_o only_o for_o the_o ignorances_n of_o this_o life_n but_o even_o for_o that_o dross_n and_o dust_n of_o the_o world_n which_o hang_v upon_o our_o foot_n we_o ought_v daily_o to_o repent_v us._n he_o mean_v the_o lesser_a and_o small_a escape_n of_o our_o life_n the_o papist_n error_n 12_o 6._o there_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o contrition_n that_o proceed_v only_o from_o the_o fear_n of_o punishment_n when_o a_o man_n do_v leave_v sin_v not_o for_o any_o love_n or_o delight_n he_o have_v in_o god_n but_o only_o for_o fear_v of_o damnation_n even_o this_o contrition_n also_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a yet_o this_o servile_a fear_n be_v at_o length_n clean_o drive_v out_o by_o charity_n but_o there_o remain_v still_o in_o the_o godly_a a_o awe_n and_o fear_n of_o god_n and_o his_o judgement_n with_o mistrust_n and_o fear_v of_o hell_n and_o damnation_n as_o math._n 10._o fear_v he_o that_o can_v cast_v body_n and_o soul_n into_o hell_n rhemist_n john_n 4._o sect_n 6._o bellarm._n lib._n 2.17_o the_o protestant_n first_o we_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o fear_n of_o punishment_n be_v necessary_a in_o the_o beginning_n to_o make_v a_o way_n for_o true_a love_n to_o enter_v as_o the_o bristle_n or_o needle_n as_o augustine_n say_v make_v room_n for_o the_o thread_n to_o enter_v we_o also_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v a_o continual_a fear_n and_o reverence_n of_o god_n in_o the_o godly_a such_o as_o child_n have_v of_o their_o parent_n but_o as_o for_o any_o mistrust_n or_o fear_v of_o hell_n and_o damnation_n after_o love_n be_v once_o enter_v and_o we_o make_v the_o child_n of_o god_n which_o breed_v terror_n and_o anxiety_n of_o conscience_n it_o be_v clean_o expel_v and_o thrust_v out_o of_o the_o door_n by_o love_n argum._n so_o say_v the_o apostle_n there_o be_v no_o fear_n in_o love_n but_o perfect_a love_n cast_v out_o fear_n and_o make_v we_o to_o have_v confidence_n in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n 1._o joh._n 4.17_o 18._o but_o he_o that_o fear_v damnation_n and_o be_v afraid_a of_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n can_v have_v confidence_n in_o that_o day_n so_o augustine_n quid_fw-la dicimus_fw-la de_fw-la illo_fw-la qui_fw-la caepit_fw-la timere_fw-la diem_fw-la iudicij_fw-la si_fw-mi perfecta_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la esset_fw-la charitas_fw-la non_fw-la timeret_fw-la what_o say_v we_o to_o he_o that_o fear_v the_o day_n of_o judgement_n if_o love_n be_v perfect_a in_o he_o he_o will_v not_o fear_v it_o the_o sixth_o question_n of_o auricular_a confession_n the_o second_o part_n of_o penance_n the_o papist_n error_n 13_o none_o can_v right_o seek_v for_o absolution_n at_o the_o priest_n hand_n unless_o they_o confess_v particular_o at_o the_o least_o all_o their_o mortal_a sin_n whether_o they_o be_v commit_v in_o mind_n heart_n will_n and_o cogitation_n only_o or_o in_o word_n and_o work_v with_o all_o the_o necessary_a circumstance_n and_o difference_n of_o the_o same_o rhemist_n joh._n 20._o sect_n 5._o and_o this_o sacramental_a confession_n as_o they_o call_v it_o must_v be_v make_v secret_o to_o the_o priest_n council_n trident._n sess_v 14._o can_n 6._o argum._n 1._o this_o wonderful_a power_n of_o remit_v and_o retain_v of_o sin_n which_o be_v give_v to_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n joh._n 20.22_o be_v give_v they_o in_o vain_a if_o no_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o seek_v for_o absolution_n at_o their_o hand_n which_o can_v not_o be_v have_v of_o they_o without_o distinct_a utterance_n to_o they_o of_o our_o sin_n for_o they_o can_v rule_v the_o case_n of_o conscience_n unless_o they_o have_v exact_a knowledge_n and_o cogitation_n of_o their_o sin_n rhemist_n ibid._n ans._n 1._o god_n have_v not_o make_v his_o minister_n in_o christ_n stead_n judge_n of_o case_n of_o conscience_n as_o though_o there_o be_v in_o they_o a_o actual_a power_n to_o remit_v and_o absolve_v sin_n but_o their_o office_n be_v only_o to_o declare_v and_o set_v forth_o unto_o all_o penitent_a person_n the_o promise_n of_o god_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n &_o the_o severity_n of_o god_n judgement_n against_o impenitent_a person_n which_o be_v especial_o perform_v in_o the_o preach_n and_o apply_v of_o the_o word_n either_o public_o or_o private_o as_o s._n paul_n call_v the_o gospel_n commit_v unto_o he_o the_o word_n of_o reconciliation_n 2._o cor._n 5.16_o 2._o a_o man_n therefore_o may_v by_o their_o ministry_n which_o be_v the_o preacher_n of_o reconciliation_n find_v remission_n of_o sin_n without_o a_o particular_a declaration_n thereof_o neither_o be_v it_o necessary_a for_o they_o to_o have_v so_o exact_a a_o knowledge_n of_o our_o sin_n see_v they_o be_v not_o absolute_a judge_n of_o the_o conscience_n but_o the_o minister_n and_o ambassador_n of_o reconciliation_n 2._o corinth_n 5.20_o 3._o and_o minister_n be_v not_o to_o stay_v while_o suit_n be_v make_v unto_o they_o for_o their_o help_n but_o they_o ought_v to_o exhort_v and_o desire_v man_n to_o be_v reconcile_v to_o god_n by_o their_o ministry_n argum._n 2._o as_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o law_n have_v only_a authority_n to_o discern_v the_o leprosy_n of_o the_o people_n and_o therefore_o christ_n send_v the_o leper_n to_o the_o priest_n luk._n 17.14_o so_o man_n must_v reveal_v the_o spiritual_a leprosy_n of_o sin_n to_o the_o priest_n rhemist_n ibid._n ans._n first_o the_o leprosy_n be_v not_o heal_v by_o the_o priest_n but_o only_o declare_v to_o be_v heal_v so_o sin_n be_v declare_v to_o be_v forgive_v by_o the_o priest_n not_o proper_o forgive_v second_o the_o priest_n receive_v not_o knowledge_n of_o all_o disease_n but_o of_o this_o that_o be_v contagious_a therefore_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v hereupon_o that_o all_o sin_n be_v to_o be_v confess_v to_o the_o priest_n but_o such_o as_o be_v notorious_a where_o public_a confession_n be_v by_o church_n discipline_n enjoin_v and_o such_o confession_n we_o deny_v not_o three_o the_o argument_n follow_v not_o from_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o law_n to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n for_o the_o priesthood_n of_o the_o law_n be_v translate_v whole_o unto_o christ_n who_o have_v all_o knowledge_n to_o discern_v and_o power_n to_o heal_v our_o spiritual_a disease_n the_o protestant_n confession_n of_o sin_n such_o as_o the_o scripture_n allow_v we_o do_v acknowledge_v as_o namely_o these_o four_o kind_n there_o be_v private_a confession_n either_o to_o god_n alone_o as_o daniel_n confess_v
redeem_v his_o brother_n or_o give_v a_o price_n to_o god_n for_o he_o psalm_n 49.8_o augustine_n upon_o those_o word_n john_n 16.23_o whatsoever_o you_o shall_v ask_v in_o my_o name_n he_o will_v give_v it_o you_o exaudiuntur_fw-la quip_n omnes_fw-la sancti_fw-la pro_fw-la seipsis_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la exaudiuntur_fw-la pro_fw-la omnibus_fw-la vel_fw-la amiciss_fw-la vel_fw-la inimicis_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o saint_n be_v hear_v pray_v for_o themselves_o 102._o but_o they_o be_v not_o hear_v pray_v for_o all_o their_o friend_n or_o enemy_n because_o it_o be_v not_o say_v simple_o he_o will_v give_v but_o he_o will_v give_v to_o you_o ergo_fw-la much_o less_o can_v they_o satisfy_v for_o other_o if_o their_o prayer_n be_v not_o hear_v always_o for_o other_o the_o eight_o question_n of_o indvlgence_n and_o penal_a injunction_n the_o first_o part_n whether_o penal_a and_o painful_a work_n be_v necessary_a unto_o repentance_n the_o papist_n not_o only_o amendment_n and_o cease_v to_o sin_n or_o repentance_n in_o heart_n before_o error_n 21_o god_n be_v always_o enough_o to_o obtain_v full_a reconcilement_n but_o there_o must_v be_v outward_a penalty_n correction_n and_o chastisement_n beside_o rhemist_n 2._o corinth_n 2._o sect_n 2._o argum._n the_o incestuous_a person_n be_v rebuke_v of_o many_o 2._o corinth_n 2.6_o which_o word_n impli_v beside_o his_o inward_a repentance_n outward_a correction_n and_o chastisement_n the_o protestant_n ans._n we_o acknowledge_v that_o in_o notorious_a sin_n and_o offensive_a to_o the_o church_n as_o this_o of_o the_o young_a man_n be_v inward_a repentance_n be_v not_o sufficient_a but_o that_o after_o sharp_a discipline_n by_o the_o outward_a testification_n of_o sorrow_n and_o public_a confession_n satisfaction_n must_v be_v make_v to_o the_o church_n but_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o this_o course_n shall_v be_v take_v for_o all_o sin_n which_o a_o man_n repent_v he_o of_o and_o yet_o we_o grant_v that_o outward_a sign_n of_o our_o sorrow_n be_v always_o necessary_a in_o true_a repentance_n not_o as_o satisfactory_a mean_n to_o redeem_v our_o sin_n but_o only_o as_o infallible_a token_n and_o effect_n of_o our_o repentance_n as_o augustine_n say_v satis_fw-la durus_fw-la est_fw-la cvius_fw-la mentis_fw-la dolorem_fw-la oculi_fw-la carnis_fw-la nequeunt_fw-la declarare_fw-la he_o be_v hard_o heart_a the_o grief_n of_o who_o mind_n the_o eye_n of_o his_o flesh_n do_v not_o show_v forth_o the_o penitent_a cap._n 9_o argum._n there_o be_v but_o two_o essential_a part_n of_o repentance_n and_o true_a conversion_n unto_o god_n to_o turn_v from_o our_o sin_n and_o lead_v a_o holy_a life_n so_o say_v the_o lord_n by_o the_o prophet_n if_o the_o wicked_a will_v return_v from_o his_o sin_n and_o keep_v all_o my_o statute_n ezech._n 18.21_o this_o be_v all_o god_n require_v without_o any_o other_o penal_a work_n wherefore_o cease_v from_o sin_n and_o amendment_n of_o life_n which_o necessary_o include_v the_o true_a sorrow_n and_o conversion_n of_o the_o heart_n be_v sufficient_a for_o repentance_n the_o second_o part_n by_o who_o penal_a work_n be_v to_o be_v inflict_v the_o papist_n error_n 22_o the_o priest_n only_o they_o say_v have_v power_n to_o enjoin_v work_n of_o penance_n as_o affliction_n of_o body_n mulct_n penalty_n correction_n by_o almsdeed_n fast_v abstinence_n and_o such_o like_a conc._n try_v sess_v 14_o can_n 15._o rhemist_n 2._o corinth_n 2._o sect_n 2._o argum._n to_o they_o be_v give_v authority_n to_o bind_v and_o loose_v ergo_fw-la to_o enjoin_v penance_n bellarm._n cap._n 5._o lib._n 4._o the_o protestant_n ans._n 1._o some_o kind_n of_o mulctes_n church_n discipline_n be_v not_o to_o deal_v withal_o as_o bodily_a punishment_n and_o pecuniary_a fine_n which_o be_v to_o be_v impose_v at_o the_o discretion_n of_o the_o magistrate_n second_o we_o grant_v a_o wholesome_a use_n of_o the_o key_n in_o church_n discipline_n in_o punish_v and_o cleanse_v of_o notorious_a offender_n in_o the_o open_a face_n of_o the_o congregation_n but_o private_o to_o enjoin_v man_n penance_n for_o their_o secret_a sin_n be_v a_o antichristian_a yoke_n argum._n true_a repentance_n be_v a_o free_a work_n not_o of_o compulsion_n or_o coaction_n saint_n paul_n exhort_v man_n to_o judge_v themselves_o that_o they_o be_v not_o judge_v 1._o corinth_n 11.31_o but_o now_o when_o penance_n be_v lay_v upon_o a_o man_n and_o not_o voluntary_o take_v of_o himself_o he_o be_v judge_v rather_o of_o another_o he_o do_v not_o judge_v himself_o augustine_n say_v quem_fw-la poenitet_fw-la punit_fw-la seipsum_fw-la prorsus_fw-la aut_fw-la punis_fw-la aut_fw-la punit_fw-la deus_fw-la ut_fw-la ille_fw-la non_fw-la puniat_fw-la puni_fw-la tu_fw-la he_o that_o repent_v punish_v himself_o either_o thou_o punish_v or_o god_n if_o thou_o will_v not_o have_v god_n to_o do_v it_o punish_v thyself_o a_o man_n therefore_o must_v punish_v himself_o he_o must_v not_o be_v punish_v of_o another_o in_o his_o repentance_n to_o godward_o for_o of_o outward_a chastisement_n to_o the_o world_n now_o be_v not_o the_o question_n the_o three_o part_n of_o pardon_n and_o indulgence_n the_o papist_n 1._o the_o principal_a magistrate_n of_o the_o church_n be_v no_o less_o authorize_v to_o pardon_n then_o to_o punish_v &_o to_o remit_v the_o temporal_a punishment_n due_a to_o sinner_n error_n 23_o the_o offence_n be_v first_o forgive_v which_o we_o call_v a_o indulgence_n or_o pardon_n rhemist_n 2._o corinth_n 2.4_o council_n try_v sess_v 25._o argum._n to_o who_o you_o forgive_v any_o thing_n i_o forgive_v also_o 2._o corinth_n 2.10_o here_o the_o apostle_n forgive_v the_o young_a man_n a_o piece_n of_o his_o punishment_n when_o he_o may_v have_v keep_v he_o long_o in_o penance_n for_o his_o offence_n rhemist_n ibid._n ans._n 1._o we_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o the_o church_n may_v release_v such_o public_a exercise_n of_o humiliation_n which_o be_v enjoin_v offender_n for_o trial_n of_o their_o repentance_n and_o some_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o church_n when_o it_o see_v that_o they_o be_v sufficient_o humble_v but_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o the_o church_n therefore_o may_v dispense_v with_o any_o necessary_a part_n of_o repentance_n towards_o god_n second_o whereas_o you_o say_v the_o apostle_n notwithstanding_o his_o rebuke_n be_v sufficient_a may_v have_v keep_v the_o young_a man_n still_o in_o temporal_a punishment_n it_o be_v clean_o contrary_a to_o the_o apostle_n own_o rule_n who_o persuade_v the_o corinthian_n to_o forgive_v he_o lest_o he_o shall_v be_v overcome_v of_o too_o much_o heaviness_n vers_fw-la 7._o the_o apostle_n therefore_o will_v neither_o forgive_v nor_o release_v he_o before_o they_o have_v forgive_v he_o and_o he_o have_v satisfy_v the_o whole_a church_n verse_n 10._o neither_o will_v he_o keep_v he_o long_o in_o punishment_n have_v once_o sorrow_v sufficient_o verse_n 6._o the_o apostle_n therefore_o do_v neither_o bind_v nor_o release_v he_o at_o his_o own_o pleasure_n but_o as_o he_o see_v repentance_n to_o be_v wrought_v in_o the_o offender_n the_o protestant_n the_o power_n which_o the_o pope_n and_o popish_a bishop_n do_v challenge_v unto_o themselves_o in_o give_v pardon_n and_o indulgence_n be_v most_o blasphemous_a 1_o they_o do_v take_v upon_o they_o to_o release_v both_o the_o punishment_n of_o this_o life_n and_o the_o pain_n of_o purgatory_n also_o and_o say_v that_o their_o pardon_n profit_v both_o the_o dead_a and_o the_o live_n bull._n leon._n 10._o 2_o they_o pardon_v not_o only_o the_o punishment_n but_o the_o sin_n both_o pass_v and_o to_o come_v for_o day_n year_n hundred_o thousand_o of_o year_n how_o so_o ever_o the_o rhemist_n will_v bear_v we_o in_o hand_n that_o a_o indulgence_n be_v a_o release_n but_o of_o the_o punishment_n such_o be_v the_o first_o jubilee_n pardon_v grant_v by_o boniface_n 8._o a_o 1300._o and_o another_o by_o leo_n the_o 10._o a_o 1513._o see_v also_o the_o boston_n pardon_v grant_v by_o pope_n innocent_a pope_n juâ—ye_n pope_n clement_n which_o give_v they_o release_v of_o all_o their_o sin_n for_o five_o hundred_o year_n fox_n pag._n 1178._o 3_o and_o which_o fill_v up_o the_o measure_n of_o iniquity_n they_o set_v their_o pardon_n to_o sale_n as_o in_o pope_n leo_n his_o time_n his_o pardoner_n for_o ten_o shilling_n will_v give_v to_o any_o man_n power_n 844._o to_o deliver_v one_o soul_n at_o his_o pleasure_n out_o of_o purgatory_n argum._n the_o scripture_n say_v that_o god_n only_o forgive_v sin_n mark_n 2.7_o and_o that_o christ_n no_o otherwise_o then_o as_o god_n forgive_v sin_n vers_fw-la 10._o his_o apostle_n only_o as_o his_o minister_n and_o ambassador_n and_o in_o his_o name_n declare_v and_o pronounce_v remission_n of_o sin_n 2._o corinth_n 5.19_o wherefore_o there_o be_v no_o such_o power_n give_v unto_o man_n at_o their_o pleasure_n to_o bind_v or_o loose_v 18_o augustine_n say_v non_fw-la secundum_fw-la arbitrium_fw-la hominum_fw-la tenentur_fw-la aut_fw-la soluuntur_fw-la peccata_fw-la
be_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o earth_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o be_v within_o the_o earth_n according_a to_o the_o hebrew_n phrase_n as_o exod._n 15.8_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o sea_n that_o be_v within_o the_o sea_n so_o christ_n body_n be_v in_o the_o earth_n it_o lay_v hide_v as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o bowel_n of_o the_o earth_n 3._o this_o exposition_n be_v against_o themselves_o for_o if_o christ_n go_v down_o to_o the_o very_a hart_n and_o midst_n of_o the_o earth_n which_o be_v the_o centre_n than_o he_o descend_v to_o the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a for_o neither_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la nor_o purgatory_n be_v in_o the_o centre_n or_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n by_o their_o opinion_n but_o they_o themselves_o hold_v the_o contrary_n for_o they_o say_v that_o christ_n by_o descend_v deliver_v soul_n out_o of_o the_o two_o uppermost_a hell_n limbus_n and_o purgatory_n but_o not_o out_o of_o the_o nethermost_a hell_n which_o be_v the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a rhemist_n luke_n 16._o sect_n 8._o also_o it_o shall_v follow_v of_o this_o their_o interpretation_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n be_v as_o long_o in_o hell_n as_o his_o body_n in_o the_o grave_n which_o be_v against_o the_o opinion_n of_o many_o papist_n argum._n 2._o luke_n 8.31_o the_o devil_n desire_v christ_n that_o he_o will_v not_o send_v they_o into_o the_o deep_a what_o be_v that_o else_o but_o the_o low_a region_n of_o the_o earth_n where_o hell_n be_v which_o saint_n paul_n call_v the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n bellarmine_n ans._n we_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o god_n have_v prepare_v and_o that_o there_o be_v a_o place_n of_o unspeakable_a torment_n ordain_v for_o the_o devil_n and_o his_o angel_n and_o all_o damn_a soul_n but_o that_o this_o place_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o centre_n of_o the_o earth_n the_o place_n allege_v prove_v not_o for_o the_o word_n abyssus_n translate_v the_o deep_a be_v sometime_o take_v figurative_o in_o a_o metaphor_n as_o rom._n 11.33_o o_o the_o deepens_n of_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n the_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o much_o vary_v in_o signification_n from_o abyssus_fw-la so_o the_o place_n of_o their_o punishment_n be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o great_a depth_n that_o be_v a_o place_n of_o unsearchable_a and_o unspeakable_a misery_n and_o horror_n neither_o must_v this_o word_n abyssus_fw-la of_o necessity_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o earth_n for_o there_o be_v abyssi_fw-la maris_fw-la the_o depth_n of_o the_o sea_n exod._n 15.8_o as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o earth_n the_o low_a place_n which_o s._n paul_n speak_v of_o eph._n 4._o may_v be_v either_o understand_v general_o of_o the_o whole_a earth_n which_o be_v pars_fw-la mundi_fw-la infima_fw-la the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o world_n or_o else_o of_o the_o great_a abase_v of_o christ_n from_o heaven_n to_o earth_n be_v god_n to_o become_v a_o servant_n as_o also_o the_o grave_n of_o christ_n be_v that_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n for_o the_o apostle_n say_v in_o the_o comparative_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o low_a not_o the_o low_a and_o so_o your_o vulgar_a latin_a translate_v inferiora_fw-la not_o infima_fw-la terrae_fw-la but_o hell_n be_v the_o low_a part_n the_o grave_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o low_a the_o protestant_n that_o there_o be_v a_o local_a place_n of_o torment_n prepare_v for_o the_o devil_n and_o his_o angel_n we_o doubt_v not_o be_v so_o teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n math._n 25.41_o a_o place_n of_o darkness_n 2._o pet._n 2.4_o far_o distant_a from_o the_o heavenly_a mansion_n of_o the_o bless_a luke_n 16.26_o neither_o do_v we_o deny_v but_o that_o it_o may_v be_v in_o the_o earth_n or_o wheresoever_o else_o it_o please_v god_n but_o wheresoever_o hell_n be_v there_o be_v but_o one_o that_o division_n of_o hell_n into_o three_o or_o four_o region_n we_o utter_o condemn_v as_o a_o mere_a devise_n of_o man_n without_o scripture_n and_o this_o we_o say_v that_o the_o place_n of_o hell_n cause_v not_o the_o torment_n but_o the_o wrath_n and_o curse_n of_o god_n for_o even_o out_o of_o hell_n god_n may_v make_v a_o man_n to_o feel_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n as_o we_o doubt_v not_o but_o our_o saviour_n christ_n do_v for_o we_o and_o our_o redemption_n upon_o the_o cross_n argum._n 1._o it_o be_v possible_a to_o feel_v the_o pain_n of_o hell_n in_o the_o soul_n although_o not_o â—n_v the_o proper_a and_o appoint_a place_n of_o hell_n as_o job_n complain_v the_o arrow_n of_o the_o almighty_a be_v in_o i_o the_o venom_n thereof_o do_v drink_v up_o my_o spirit_n and_o the_o terror_n of_o god_n fight_n against_o i_o and_o therefore_o he_o say_v his_o grief_n be_v heavy_a than_o the_o sand_n of_o the_o sea_n job._n 6.4.14_o job_n feel_v even_o the_o hell_n of_o conscience_n in_o himself_o for_o the_o time_n yea_o our_o saviour_n bear_v the_o burden_n of_o his_o father_n wrath_n upon_o the_o cross_n as_o we_o have_v show_v before_o ergo_fw-la it_o be_v not_o the_o place_n that_o make_v hell_n argu._n 2._o hell_n be_v nothing_o else_o as_o the_o scripture_n define_v it_o but_o to_o be_v cast_v into_o utter_a darkness_n there_o shall_v be_v weep_a and_o gnash_n of_o tooth_n math._n 25.30.22.13_o the_o darkness_n cause_v weep_v &_o horrible_a gnash_n of_o tooth_n the_o unspeakable_a punishment_n both_o of_o body_n and_o soul_n this_o darkness_n be_v not_o the_o absence_n of_o the_o light_n of_o the_o sun_n for_o neither_o shall_v the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n have_v that_o light_n because_o they_o need_v it_o not_o apoc._n 22.5_o and_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o place_n of_o darkness_n to_o the_o damn_a angel_n which_o have_v no_o use_n of_o the_o sun_n light_n they_o also_o be_v reserve_v in_o chain_n of_o darkness_n jude_n 6._o as_o they_o be_v no_o material_a chain_n so_o neither_o be_v it_o a_o outward_a darkness_n but_o the_o absence_n of_o god_n favour_n and_o the_o light_n of_o his_o countenance_n as_o the_o people_n be_v say_v to_o have_v sit_v in_o darkness_n before_o the_o light_n of_o the_o gospel_n by_o the_o preach_n of_o jesus_n christ_n do_v shine_v unto_o they_o math._n 4.16_o but_o they_o much_o more_o shall_v be_v and_o be_v keep_v in_o darkness_n that_o be_v condemn_v to_o hell_n where_o they_o feel_v nothing_o but_o the_o horror_n of_o god_n wrath_n his_o eternal_a and_o endless_a curse_n with_o unspeakable_a torment_n now_o in_o soul_n and_o afterward_o both_o in_o body_n &_o soul_n without_o all_o comfort_n or_o hope_n of_o refresh_v utter_o exclude_v from_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n wherefore_o it_o be_v not_o the_o place_n but_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o absence_n of_o his_o spirit_n that_o cause_v such_o endless_a and_o unspeakable_a punishment_n argu._n 3_o as_o for_o your_o distinction_n of_o hell_n the_o brim_n whereof_o you_o say_v be_v limbus_n patrum_fw-la the_o middle_a part_n purgatory_n the_o low_a and_o nethermost_a hell_n itself_o the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a in_o augustine_n time_n it_o be_v not_o know_v for_o first_o that_o the_o bosom_n of_o abraham_n be_v part_n of_o hell_n he_o utter_o deny_v apparet_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la membrum_fw-la inferorum_fw-la tantae_fw-la illius_fw-la foelicitatis_fw-la â—inum_fw-la that_o bosom_n of_o so_o great_a bliss_n can_v be_v no_o member_n or_o part_n of_o hell_n epist._n 99_o again_o purgatory_n he_o utter_o refuse_v acknowledge_v but_o two_o place_n heaven_n for_o the_o faithful_a hell_n for_o the_o damn_a and_o unbeliever_n tertium_fw-la locum_fw-la penitus_fw-la ignoramus_fw-la imo_fw-la nec_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o scripture_n sanctis_fw-la invenimus_fw-la a_o three_o place_n we_o be_v utter_o ignorant_a of_o yea_o we_o find_v in_o holy_a scripture_n that_o it_o be_v not_o august_n hypognost_n the_o nineteenth_o controversy_n of_o matter_n which_o be_v in_o question_n concern_v the_o divine_a nature_n of_o christ._n this_o controversy_n contain_v three_o question_n first_o whether_o christ_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n of_o himself_o second_o whether_o he_o be_v mediator_n as_o god_n or_o man_n or_o as_o both_o three_o whether_o he_o have_v by_o his_o desert_n purchase_v any_o thing_n for_o himself_o the_o first_o part_n whether_o christ_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n of_o himself_o the_o papist_n error_n 103_o they_o deny_v that_o christ_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n of_o himself_o and_o affirm_v that_o he_o have_v not_o only_o his_o person_n but_o his_o substance_n of_o his_o father_n whereupon_o they_o be_v bold_a to_o charge_n caluine_n with_o blasphemy_n for_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v god_n of_o himself_o as_o well_o as_o the_o father_n rhemist_n joh._n 1._o sect_n 3._o argum._n the_o word_n be_v with_o god_n to_o wit_n the_o son_n be_v with_o
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