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in_o the_o text_n and_o margin_n at_o 17._o john_n careless_a protestant_n martyr_n be_v demand_v by_o the_o magistrate_n if_o he_o know_v such_o a_o man_n record_v his_o own_o answer_n thereto_o in_o these_o word_n no_o forsooth_o i_o do_v not_o know_v any_o such_o nor_o have_v i_o not_o hear_v of_o he_o that_o i_o wot_v of_o but_o yet_o say_v he_o i_o lie_v false_o for_o i_o know_v he_o indeed_o act._n mon._n pag._n 1530._o a._n post_v med_n as_o concern_v the_o equivocation_n or_o doubtful_a speak_n and_o write_v even_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n use_v by_o martin_n bucer_n it_o be_v report_v in_o the_o example_n of_o the_o sacrament_n by_o the_o protestant-writer_n schlusselburg_n in_o theol._n calvinist_n l._n 2._o fol._n 129._o a._n post_v med_n from_o the_o word_n of_o lavater_n the_o calvinist_n and_o by_o osiander_n in_o epitome_n hist_o eccles_n etc._n etc._n centur._n 16._o pag._n 249._o initio_fw-la and_o by_o josias_n symlerus_n bucer_n dear_a friend_n who_o in_o his_o 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point_n more_o full_o in_o brereley_o tract_n 1._o sect_n 10._o subdivis_fw-la 3._o fine_a at_o a._n and_o tract_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 10._o subdivis_fw-la 2._o initio_fw-la in_o the_o text_n and_o margin_n there_o at_o o._n p._n q._n r._n s_o t._n u._n and_o see_v at_o large_a in_o the_o protestant_a author_n themselves_o the_o place_n there_o cite_v wherein_o they_o reject_v these_o scripture_n under_o colour_n and_o pretence_n that_o they_o be_v deny_v or_o doubt_v of_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n epistle_n of_o james_n judas_n the_o second_o of_o peter_n the_o 2._o and_o 3._o of_o john_n the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n and_o the_o apocalypse_v no_o less_o than_o the_o other_o book_n now_o in_o question_n but_o by_o that_o which_o many_o of_o the_o father_n do_v constant_o affirm_v and_o see_v the_o church_n assertion_n as_o be_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o very_a he_o very_a mr._n fulk_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterfeit_a catholic_n pag._n 5._o initio_fw-la 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