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A65863 The divinity of Christ and unity of the three that bear record in heaven with the blessed end and effects of Christ's appearance, coming in the flesh, suffering and sacrifice for sinners, confessed and vindicated, by his followers, called Quakers : and the principal matters in controversie, between them, and their present opposers (as Presbyterians, Independants, &c.) considered and resolved, according to the scriptures of truth, and more particularly to remove the aspersions ... cast upon the ... Quakers ... in several books, written by Tho. Vincent, Will. Madox, their railing book, stil'd The foundation, &c, Tho. Danson, his Synopsis, John Owen, his Declaration / which are here examin'd and compared by G.W. ... ; as also, a short review of several passages of Edward Stillingfleet's ... in his discourse of the sufferings of Christ's and sermon preached before the King, wherein he flatly contradicts the said opposers. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1669 (1669) Wing W1925; ESTC R19836 166,703 202

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perfection_n viz._n none_o of_o the_o eminent_o holy_a person_n in_o the_o scripture_n pag._n 55._o yet_o perfection_n be_v command_v be_v you_o therefore_o perfect_a as_o your_o heavenly_a father_n etc._n etc._n mat._n 5.48_o such_o command_n be_v the_o measure_n of_o our_o duty_n not_o of_o our_o attainment_n pag._n 57_o 57_o t.d._n a_o state_n of_o freedom_n from_o sin_n be_v not_o attainable_a in_o this_o life_n no_o man_n ever_o do_v attain_v a_o state_n of_o perfection_n viz._n none_o of_o the_o eminent_o holy_a person_n in_o the_o scripture_n pag._n 55._o yet_o perfection_n be_v command_v be_v you_o therefore_o perfect_a as_o your_o heavenly_a father_n etc._n etc._n mat._n 5.48_o such_o command_n be_v the_o measure_n of_o our_o duty_n not_o of_o our_o attainment_n pag._n 57_o 57_o t.d._n a_o state_n of_o freedom_n from_o sin_n be_v not_o attainable_a in_o this_o life_n no_o man_n ever_o do_v attain_v a_o state_n of_o perfection_n viz._n none_o of_o the_o eminent_o holy_a 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not_o subsist_v in_o a_o several_a and_o distinct_a nature_n of_o the_o same_o kind_n so_o as_o they_o be_v not_o three_o god_n as_o be_v confess_v pag._n 3._o how_o be_v they_o three_o distinct_a or_o separate_a person_n subsist_v each_o by_o himself_o these_o thing_n be_v consider_v by_o the_o impartial_a reader_n the_o absurdity_n of_o the_o presbyterian_o doctrine_n and_o comparison_n touch_v the_o deity_n will_v easy_o appear_v and_o what_o be_v this_o aquinas_n quote_v as_o t._n d_n author_n so_o much_o cite_v and_o comment_v by_o he_o as_o a_o wise_a observant_a pag._n 19_o be_v not_o he_o a_o great_a writer_n for_o the_o romish_a religion_n and_o the_o pope_n doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n and_o so_o a_o promoter_n of_o popery_n in_o his_o time_n and_o canonize_a 〈◊〉_d saint_n among_o they_o see_v his_o large_a volume_n his_o sum_n and_o other_o he_o be_v high_o applaud_v by_o the_o papist_n as_o be_v a_o industrious_a promoter_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o religion_n 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