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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A77707	Rome's conviction: or, A discoverie of the unsoundness of the main grounds of Rome's religion, in answer to a book, called The right religion, evinced by L.B. Shewing, 1. That the Romish Church is not the true and onely Catholick Church, infallible ground and rule of faith. 2. That the main doctrines of the Romish Church are damnable errors, & therefore to be deserted by such as would be saved. By William Brownsword, M.A. and minister of the Gospel at Douglas Chappell in Lancashire.	Brownsword, William, b. 1625 or 6.	1654 (1654)	Wing B5216; Thomason E1474_2; ESTC R209513	181,322	400

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and_o every_o thing_n in_o it_o and_o consequent_o that_o the_o creature_n do_v full_o represent_v the_o divine_a essence_n and_o yet_o the_o scripture_n tell_v we_o that_o none_o can_v see_v god_n and_o live_v 2._o it_o be_v untrue_a that_o in_o see_v the_o divine_a essence_n you_o see_v all_o its_o effect_n ibid._n aquin._n 1._o part_n 7.12_o art_n 8._o per_fw-la tot_fw-la &_o cajet_fw-fr ibid._n aquinas_n demonstrate_v the_o contrary_a by_o the_o example_n of_o the_o angel_n who_o see_v the_o divine_a essence_n yet_o be_v ignorant_a of_o future_a contingency_n and_o the_o thought_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o he_o further_o show_v that_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o he_o that_o see_v a_o glass_n shall_v see_v all_o thing_n in_o the_o glass_n unless_o he_o perfect_o comprehend_v the_o glass_n in_o his_o sight_n now_o there_o be_v no_o creature_n that_o do_v perfect_o comprehend_v god_n cyril_n excellent_o set_v this_o forth_o of_o the_o angel_n speak_v of_o god_n 169._o cyril_n hieros_n catech._n 7._o p._n 169._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n who_o face_n the_o angel_n do_v perpetual_o see_v in_o heaven_n but_o they_o see_v every_o one_o according_a to_o the_o measure_n of_o his_o own_o degree_n but_o the_o sublime_a splendour_n of_o the_o fatherly_a vision_n its_o lawful_a only_o for_o the_o son_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o behold_v do_v you_o think_v that_o the_o saint_n see_v in_o god_n the_o thought_n of_o man_n heart_n yet_o many_o prayer_n be_v no_o more_o but_o the_o inward_a groan_n of_o the_o heart_n if_o you_o say_v they_o do_v then_o according_a to_o aquinas_n they_o arrogate_v that_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n if_o not_o than_o they_o see_v not_o all_o the_o efect_n in_o god_n and_o you_o have_v not_o give_v we_o any_o distinction_n of_o effect_n visible_a or_o not_o visible_a 3._o object_n you_o say_v it_o will_v be_v oppose_v if_o saint_n and_o angel_n have_v not_o man_n prayer_n before_o god_n propose_v they_o he_o know_v they_o beforehand_o whence_o may_v be_v infer_v that_o their_o intercession_n be_v needless_a answ_n 1._o god_n foresight_n of_o man_n prayer_n make_v not_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n any_o way_n unprofitable_a and_o fruitless_a inasmuch_o as_o the_o effect_n intend_v thereby_o be_v not_o to_o better_a god_n understanding_n but_o to_o obtain_v from_o his_o bless_a will_n mercy_n and_o compassion_n etc._n etc._n reply_v 1._o the_o objection_n do_v not_o refer_v to_o god_n foresight_n mere_o which_o may_v be_v from_o all_o eternity_n he_o foresee_v all_o thing_n before_o they_o be_v but_o to_o god_n actual_a receive_n of_o they_o from_o we_o and_o so_o propose_v they_o to_o the_o saint_n now_o i_o assert_v that_o this_o do_v make_v the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n unprofitable_a yea_o no_o intercession_n for_o first_o according_a to_o papist_n the_o reason_n why_o we_o look_v for_o a_o intercessor_n be_v this_o we_o dare_v not_o come_v to_o 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reprieve_n or_o inlargement_n at_o the_o entreaty_n of_o the_o imprison_a or_o condemn_v 3._o the_o apostle_n tell_v we_o clear_o who_o be_v that_o favourite_n that_o receive_v our_o petition_n do_v procure_v reprieve_n or_o enlargement_n for_o guilty_a sinner_n viz._n jesus_n christ_n the_o righteous_a 1_o john_n 2.1_o 2._o you_o answer_v man_n be_v wish_v yea_o warrant_v to_o pray_v for_o one_o another_o 1_o tim._n 2._o notwithstanding_o god_n have_v the_o foresight_n of_o their_o want_n and_o necessity_n reply_v 1_o for_o shame_n do_v not_o thus_o fight_v with_o your_o own_o shadow_n what_o protestant_a doubt_n of_o god_n foresight_n of_o prayer_n or_o who_o assert_n that_o prayer_n be_v for_o the_o better_n of_o god_n understanding_n 2._o when_o man_n pray_v one_o for_o another_o they_o have_v not_o the_o sight_n of_o your_o supercelestial_a utopian_a looking-glass_n but_o be_v by_o their_o friend_n acquaint_v with_o their_o want_n they_o be_v entreat_v to_o join_v with_o they_o in_o seek_v god_n mercy_n through_o jesus_n christ_n 3._o you_o answer_v david_n adultery_n and_o guilt_n of_o blood_n be_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n unpardoned_a till_o after_o a_o low_a humiliation_n and_o a_o hearty_a acknowledgement_n of_o his_o fault_n 1_o king_n 12._o reply_n this_o be_v nothing_o to_o purpose_n shall_v pass_v unanswered_a till_o you_o can_v make_v it_o appear_v more_o material_a 5._o objection_n the_o five_o objection_n be_v the_o roman_a church_n entertain_v division_n and_o contrariety_n in_o religion_n the_o dominican_n maintain_v a_o physical_a predetermination_n the_o jesuit_n a_o moral_a those_o that_o the_o virgin_n mary_n be_v conceive_v in_o original_a sin_n these_o that_o she_o be_v prevent_v by_o grace_n and_o conceive_v in_o the_o same_o and_o if_o this_o be_v not_o enough_o to_o infer_v contrariety_n in_o religion_n several_a counsel_n have_v contradict_v each_o other_o answ_n 1._o not_o every_o difference_n but_o a_o difference_n in_o point_n of_o faith_n make_v division_n and_o contrariety_n in_o religion_n the_o dominican_n and_o jesuit_n only_o quarrel_n about_o opinion_n it_o be_v not_o matter_n of_o belief_n that_o god_n predestination_n be_v physical_a or_o moral_a or_o that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v conceive_v in_o original_a sin_n or_o grace_n these_o be_v mere_a school_n nicety_n and_o not_o at_o all_o destructive_a to_o that_o unity_n which_o catholic_n so_o much_o reverence_n in_o religion_n reply_v 1_o you_o deal_v deceitful_o with_o your_o follower_n and_o we_o in_o make_v your_o many_o division_n to_o seem_v few_o and_o your_o great_a one_o small_a be_v the_o difference_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n only_o two_o viz._n about_o predetermination_n and_o the_o virgin_n mary_n whosoever_o read_v azorius_n moral_n but_o especial_o bellarmine_n controversy_n shall_v find_v scarce_o one_o point_n of_o divinity_n wherein_o there_o be_v not_o difference_n among_o papist_n some_o have_v number_v 300._o different_a 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