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speech_n into_o fraud_n by_o campionâ—…_n doctrine_n no_o practice_n be_v unlawful_a so_o it_o be_v for_o the_o delivery_n of_o their_o church_n rom._n 3._o 8._o moreover_o judith_n do_v praise_v that_o act_n which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v flat_o condemn_v vide_fw-la jud._n 9_o 2._o &_o gen_fw-la 49._o 5._o etc._n etc._n job._n 13._o 7._o camp_n know_v not_o his_o own_o translation_n arg._n prim_fw-la prove_v that_o the_o scripture_n contain_v sufficient_a doctrine_n to_o salvation_n in_o the_o form_n or_o manner_n of_o the_o church_n arg._n 2._o rom._n 4._o 11._o colos._n 2._o 11_o 12._o gen._n 17._o 12._o 1._o cor._n 10._o 1._o luke_n 22._o 49._o joh._n 15._o 26._o john_n 2._o 22._o campion_n be_v ready_a to_o move_v 2_o new_a matter_n then_o to_o answer_v one_o argument_n rom._n 11._o 6._o if_o the_o apostle_n prove_v all_o by_o scripture_n as_o campion_n grant_v why_o shall_v not_o all_o other_o do_v the_o like_a john_n 5._o 46._o 〈◊〉_d argum._n by_o campion_n own_o answer_n the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o faith_n only_o here_o again_o it_o appear_v by_o his_o answer_n that_o the_o apostle_n teach_v faith_n only_o nothing_o to_o the_o matter_n 1_o 2_o the_o very_a word_n 3._o argum._n exformula_n gal._n 3._o 11._o &_o 12_o gal._n 3._o 12._o argument_n 4._o canisius_n in_o caâ—…ech_n payu_n andr._n lib._n 9_o orthodox_n expl._n matth._n 11._o 19_o luke_n 7._o 29._o arg._n 4._o arg._n 5._o arg._n 6._o to_o trifle_v and_o shift_v by_o childish_a word_n in_o fact_n and_o deed_n