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A86599 An antidote against Hen. Haggar's poysonous pamphlet, entitled, The foundation of the font discovered: or, A reply wherein his audaciousness in perverting holy scriptures and humane writings is discovered, his sophistry in arguing against infant-baptism, discipleship, church membership &c. is detected, his contradictions demonstrated; his cavils agains M. Cook, M. Baxter, and M. Hall answered, his raylings rebuked, and his folly manifested. By Aylmar Houghton minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and teacher to the congregation of Prees, in the county of Salop. Houghton, Aylmer. 1658 (1658) Wing H2917; Thomason E961_1; ESTC R207689 240,876 351

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sacrament_n i_o answer_v neither_o do_v we_o read_v the_o word_n sacrament_n in_o all_o the_o holy_a scripture_n therefore_o how_o shall_v we_o prove_v that_o woman_n do_v receive_v it_o but_o we_o read_v that_o the_o disciple_n meet_v together_o to_o break_v bread_n act_v 20.7_o and_o that_o woman_n be_v disciple_n be_v evident_a act_v 9.36_o there_o be_v a_o certain_a disciple_n name_v tabytha_n etc._n etc._n now_o let_v mr._n baxter_n or_o any_o bring_v one_o scripture_n that_o say_v there_o be_v a_o disciple_n in_o any_o place_n or_o of_o any_o name_n that_o be_v a_o little_a babe_n and_o they_o say_v well_o again_o we_o have_v plain_a word_n for_o it_o that_o all_o the_o body_n do_v partake_v of_o that_o one_o bread_n 1_o cor._n 10.16_o 17._o now_o that_o woman_n be_v of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n i_o think_v none_o dare_v deny_v gal._n 3.27_o 28_o 29._o reply_v 1_o it_o seem_v you_o have_v a_o treacherous_a memory_n but_o a_o liar_n as_o the_o proverb_n be_v have_v need_n of_o a_o good_a memory_n you_o speak_v here_o the_o same_o language_n to_o mr._n hall_n as_o you_o do_v to_o mr._n cook_n 6._o cook_n pag._n 6._o and_o it_o may_v receive_v the_o same_o answer_n 2._o further_o you_o lisp_v in_o the_o language_n of_o ashdod_n the_o socinian_o say_v as_o you_o do_v viz._n the_o word_n sacrament_n be_v a_o barbarous_a word_n and_o no_o where_o to_o be_v find_v in_o holy_a scripture_n what_o then_o it_o be_v a_o true_a and_o common_a say_n of_o our_o divine_n the_o thing_n though_o not_o the_o name_n be_v in_o scripture_n as_o the_o word_n trinity_n etc._n etc._n 3._o but_o what_o vain_a jangle_n be_v this_o mr._n hall_n do_v not_o speak_v of_o woman_n receive_n the_o sacrament_n but_o of_o our_o give_v they_o the_o supper_n as_o it_o be_v recite_v by_o yourself_o p._n 10._o 4._o it_o be_v not_o evident_a by_o expressness_n of_o scripture_n but_o by_o consequence_n only_o that_o woman_n be_v disciple_n or_o that_o woman_n receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n it_o be_v say_v indeed_o express_o that_o tabytha_n be_v a_o disciple_n and_o that_o tabytha_n be_v a_o woman_n and_o therefore_o it_o follow_v that_o a_o woman_n be_v a_o disciple_n or_o if_o you_o will_v woman_n be_v disciple_n neither_o of_o these_o consequence_n or_o conclusion_n be_v express_o in_o scripture_n nay_o you_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o woman_n receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n but_o by_o consequence_n because_o the_o disciple_n come_v together_o to_o break_v bread_n and_o by_o consequent_a to_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n which_o none_o of_o we_o deny_v and_o be_v it_o not_o as_o evident_a that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v because_o they_o be_v disciple_n 5._o in_o the_o language_n of_o christ_n who_o be_v best_o able_a to_o express_v his_o own_o sense_n to_o belong_v to_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v a_o disciple_n of_o christ_n compare_v mat._n 10.42_o with_o mar._n 9.41_o and_o mat._n 18.5_o and_o be_v not_o some_o of_o they_o infant_n on_o who_o the_o false_a teacher_n will_v have_v lay_v the_o yoke_n of_o circumcision_n who_o be_v express_o call_v disciple_n act_n 15.10_o and_o be_v it_o not_o say_v express_o that_o the_o disciple_n 5._o act_n 21_o 4_o 5._o with_o the_o wife_n and_o child_n bring_v paul_n on_o his_o way_n now_o as_o the_o affection_n and_o lust_n be_v flesh_n gal._n 5.24_o because_o it_o be_v say_v the_o flesh_n with_o its_o affection_n and_o lust_n so_o here_o wife_n and_o child_n be_v disciple_n because_o it_o be_v say_v the_o disciple_n with_o their_o wife_n and_o child_n do_v we_o now_o say_v something_o 6._o answer_n shall_v be_v return_v to_o 1_o cor._n 10.16_o 17._o when_o i_o come_v to_o the_o page_n 66.67_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o say_v that_o some_o infant_n be_v of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o i_o think_v you_o dare_v not_o deny_v it_o for_o christ_n be_v the_o saviour_n of_o the_o body_n 6._o page_n 6._o eph._n 5.23_o and_o you_o say_v that_o infant_n die_v in_o their_o infancy_n be_v save_v by_o virtue_n of_o christ_n death_n sect_n 12._o hen._n hag._n same_o page_n thus_o have_v discover_v the_o vanity_n of_o all_o their_o unreasonable_a reason_n i_o commit_v it_o even_o to_o our_o enemy_n to_o judge_v between_o we_o in_o these_o thing_n who_o have_v the_o scripture_n most_o on_o their_o side_n they_o or_o we_o and_o thus_o notwithstanding_o all_o their_o cunning_a craftiness_n it_o be_v evident_a they_o have_v not_o one_o scripture_n for_o infant-baptism_n and_o therefore_o not_o of_o god_n etc._n etc._n reply_v 1_o what_o a_o pitiful_a contradiction_n be_v here_o viz._n that_o we_o have_v not_o one_o scripture_n for_o infant-baptisme_n and_o yet_o you_o will_v have_v we_o judge_v who_o have_v most_o scripture_n on_o their_o side_n for_o suppose_v you_o have_v the_o most_o do_v not_o that_o imply_v that_o we_o have_v some_o scripture_n on_o our_o side_n sure_a none_n and_o some_o be_v contradiction_n 2._o if_o you_o mean_v we_o have_v no_o scripture_n by_o consequence_n that_o be_v palpable_o false_a unless_o all_o this_o while_o you_o have_v answer_v not_o one_o scripture_n for_o infant-baptisme_n if_o you_o mean_v express_a scripture_n than_o you_o have_v not_o one_o scripture_n for_o anabaptism_n now_o let_v all_o rational_a man_n judge_v whether_o you_o have_v not_o discover_v the_o vanity_n of_o your_o unreasonable_a reason_n sect_n 13._o hen._n hag._n p._n 15_o 16_o 17._o we_o can_v find_v infant-baptism_n in_o all_o the_o holy_a scripture_n therefore_o to_o the_o fountain_n whence_o it_o flow_v that_o all_o man_n may_v see_v that_o it_o come_v not_o from_o the_o fountain_n of_o live_a water_n which_o be_v the_o holy_a scripture_n reply_n i_o wonder_v you_o can_v find_v a_o font_n for_o infant-baptism_n in_o jer._n 2.12_o 13._o pag._n 8._o and_o yet_o can_v find_v infant-baptism_n in_o all_o the_o holy_a scripture_n who_o so_o blind_a as_o he_o that_o will_v not_o see_v 2._o you_o tell_v we_o even_o now_o p._n 9_o that_o the_o baptise_v of_o believer_n in_o river_n and_o fountain_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o fountain_n of_o live_a water_n or_o else_o your_o comparison_n be_v lame_a now_o that_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v the_o fountain_n of_o live_a water_n either_o there_o be_v two_o fountain_n of_o live_a water_n or_o else_o you_o miserable_o contradict_v and_o confound_v yourself_o sect_n 14._o h._n h._n ibid._n now_o that_o christ_n never_o command_v nor_o his_o apostle_n never_o practise_v the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n even_o your_o own_o poet_n confess_v as_o paul_n say_v in_o another_o case_n act_v 17._o ver_fw-la 28._o reply_v 1_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o peruse_v the_o author_n with_o their_o testimony_n as_o they_o be_v cite_v by_o mr._n haggar_n because_o they_o be_v too_o many_o to_o transcribe_v mr._n hagg._n have_v empanel_v a_o july_n of_o 22_o but_o i_o hope_v he_o will_v do_v i_o that_o favour_n nay_o that_o justice_n to_o challenge_v some_o of_o they_o and_o to_o consider_v if_o not_o to_o demur_v on_o the_o verdict_n of_o the_o rest_n 1._o erasmus_n be_v one_o of_o you_o as_o well_o as_o we_o if_o a_o anabaptist_n be_v a_o papist_n or_o a_o protestant_n or_o a_o neuter_n or_o both_o for_o in_o point_n of_o a_o oath_n and_o lawsuit_n 5.34_o lawsuit_n s●e_v b●z●_n in_o mat._n 5.34_o he_o seem_v not_o 14._o not_o id_fw-la in_o rom._n 5_o 14._o to_o dissent_v from_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o in_o point_n of_o sin_n he_o be_v a_o pelagian_a or_o papist_n *_o think_v it_o proceed_v rather_o from_o example_n then_o from_o nature_n yet_o he_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o protestant_n for_o he_o say_v that_o be_v heresy_n in_o luther_n which_o be_v good_a divinity_n in_o austin_n and_o be_v promise_v a_o fat_a bishopric_n if_o he_o will_v write_v against_o luther_n he_o answer_v to_o luther_n be_v too_o great_a for_o he_o to_o write_v against_o 115._o against_o melch_v adam_n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la lutheri_fw-la p._n 115._o nay_o so_o great_a that_o he_o profess_v he_o learn_v more_o out_o of_o one_o little_a leaf_n of_o luther_n then_o out_o of_o aquina_n his_o volume_n but_o how_o sleight_n and_o unsound_a he_o be_v about_o the_o deity_n of_o christ_n jesus_n special_o in_o phil._n 2.6_o tit._n 2.13_o they_o that_o read_v he_o can_v but_o stand_v and_o wonder_n i_o speak_v not_o this_o to_o smut_v his_o reputation_n but_o to_o show_v your_o vanity_n scornful_o call_v he_o one_o of_o our_o own_o poet_n 2._o bishop_n rossensis_n and_o doctor_n eck_n ludovicus_n vives_fw-la etc._n etc._n be_v or_o be_v notorious_a papists_n in_o call_v these_o our_o own_o poet_n i_o may_v better_o say_v to_o you_o than_o you_o do_v to_o 10._o to_o foundat_fw-la p._n 10._o m._n hall_n p._n 10._o a_o wretched_a lie_n but_o i_o
mr._n b._n say_v 3._o you_o will_v make_v mr._n baxter_n odious_a by_o say_v he_o take_v the_o devil_n part_n etc._n etc._n but_o sir_n you_o know_v the_o proverb_n a_o man_n must_v give_v the_o devil_n his_o due_n sure_o those_o godly_a minister_n do_v not_o take_v the_o devil_n part_n when_o they_o tell_v sinner_n that_o many_o time_n they_o belie_v the_o devil_n in_o father_v their_o sin_n on_o he_o rather_o than_o on_o themselves_o mat._n 15.19_o out_o of_o the_o heart_n proceed_v evil_a thought_n etc._n etc._n jam._n 1.14_o every_o man_n be_v tempt_v when_o he_o be_v draw_v away_o of_o his_o own_o lust_n 2_o pet._n 1._o ver_fw-la 4._o corruption_n be_v in_o the_o world_n through_o lust_n 4._o i_o fear_v that_o fault_n charge_v on_o mr._n baxter_n will_v be_v find_v within_o your_o own_o girdle_n before_o i_o leave_v you_o though_o you_o say_v you_o will_v now_o make_v it_o appear_v it_o seem_v than_o you_o fail_v in_o make_v it_o to_o appear_v as_o you_o say_v in_o the_o forego_n page_n but_o just_o so_o you_o have_v learn_v the_o devil_n deceit_n in_o add_v to_o scripture_n e._n g_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v defer_v till_o a_o man_n can_v believe_v which_o be_v not_o write_v in_o the_o bible_n but_o in_o mr._n haggar_v book_n p._n 38._o and_o you_o say_v p._n 61._o god_n have_v one_o way_n to_o save_v man_n and_o woman_n and_o another_o way_n to_o save_v little_a child_n which_o be_v not_o where_o write_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n again_o in_o the_o same_o page_n you_o say_v infant_n die_v in_o their_o infancy_n be_v save_v by_o virtue_n of_o christ_n death_n without_o actual_a f●ith_n which_o be_v not_o where_o write_v etc._n etc._n who_o now_o write_v after_o the_o devil_n copy_n who_o take_v the_o devil_n part_n sect_n 34._o h._n h._n p._n 43._o the_o devil_n say_v to_o christ_n if_o you_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n cast_v thyself_o down_o which_o be_v not_o where_o write_v as_o the_o lord_n say_v but_o the_o contrary_a viz._n thou_o shall_v not_o tempt_v the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n so_o do_v you_o say_v if_o you_o be_v the_o child_n of_o god_n baptise_v your_o child_n which_o be_v not_o where_o write_v but_o the_o contrary_a mat._n 28.29_o mar._n 15_o 16._o act_n 2.38_o 41._o &_o 8.37.12.37_o but_o you_o know_v there_o be_v no_o child_n in_o the_o text_n neither_o can_v they_o do_v any_o thing_n of_o those_o thing_n notwithstanding_o all_o this_o you_o do_v the_o work_n of_o satan_n reply_v 1_o though_o what_o be_v say_v in_o the_o forego_n sect._n be_v a_o sufficient_a reply_n as_o to_o this_o also_o yet_o i_o be_o sure_a christ_n prove_v two_o thing_n contrary_a to_o you_o 1._o the_o lawfulness_n of_o argue_v from_o scripture_n by_o consequence_n 2._o that_o be_v scripture_n which_o be_v contain_v though_o not_o express_v therein_o e._n g._n christ_n must_v not_o cast_v himself_o down_o for_o it_o be_v write_v in_o deut._n 6._o for_o 16._o thus._n if_o the_o lord_n must_v not_o be_v tempt_v than_o i_o must_v not_o cast_v myself_o down_o but_o the_o lord_n must_v not_o be_v tempt_v therefore_o 2._o you_o bewray_v your_o ignorance_n in_o say_v contrary_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infidel_n convert_v to_o the_o faith_n and_o infant_n also_o of_o one_o or_o both_o christian_a parent_n be_v not_o contrary_a but_o subordinate_a pugnant_fw-la subordinate_a subordinate_a non_fw-la pugnant_fw-la there_o be_v a_o consistency_n of_o both_o 3._o the_o scripture_n you_o cite_v in_o mat._n and_o mark_v and_o the_o act_n have_v be_v answer_v before_o you_o do_v but_o trouble_v yourself_o and_o tire_v the_o reader_n with_o vain_a repetition_n yet_o to_o your_o last_o i_o say_v child_n be_v express_o mention_v in_o act_n 2._o ver_fw-la 39_o which_o you_o have_v cunning_o leave_v out_o as_o if_o to_o use_v your_o own_o expression_n you_o mean_v to_o take_v the_o devil_n part_n and_o so_o to_o do_v his_o work_n beside_o your_o allegation_n be_v as_o strong_a against_o circumcision_n as_o against_o infant-baptism_n for_o you_o know_v they_o can_v not_o repent_v nor_o believe_v with_o all_o their_o heart_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o be_v circumcise_v but_o let_v we_o see_v how_o mr._n b._n or_o we_o do_v the_o work_n of_o satan_n sect_n 35._o h._n h._n as_o he_o tempt_v christ_n to_o cast_v himself_o down_o before_o god_n time_n be_v come_v to_o send_v his_o angel_n to_o take_v he_o down_o and_o to_o that_o end_n will_v have_v apply_v a_o promise_n false_o psal_n 91.11_o 12_o leave_v out_o in_o all_o thy_o way_n so_o do_v you_o tempt_v man_n and_o woman_n to_o baptize_v their_o child_n before_o god_n time_n be_v come_v to_o beget_v they_o by_o his_o word_n 3.5_o joh._n 3.5_o james_n 1.18_o that_o they_o may_v be_v bear_v again_o nor_o only_o of_o water_n but_o of_o the_o spirit_n and_o to_o that_o end_n you_o tell_v they_o it_o be_v write_v they_o be_v disciple_n and_o church-member_n and_o they_o be_v circumcise_v under_o the_o law_n therefore_o they_o must_v be_v baptize_v under_o the_o gospel_n etc._n 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be_v baptize_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o with_o fire_n be_v all_o one_o which_o you_o distinguish_v as_o different_a in_o say_v not_o only_o of_o water_n but_o also_o of_o the_o spirit_n 6._o what_o a_o strange_a piece_n of_o nonsense_n have_v we_o here_o god_n do_v beget_v we_o by_o his_o word_n that_o we_o may_v be_v bear_v again_o when_o god_n beget_v of_o we_o and_o our_o be_v bear_v again_o in_o scripture_n be_v all_o one_o 4.18_o one_o 1_o joh_n 4.18_o he_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o god_n sin_v not_o but_o he_o that_o be_v beget_v of_o god_n keep_v himself_o etc._n etc._n see_v also_o verse_n 1_o 7._o these_o argument_n to_o prove_v infant-baptism_n draw_v from_o circumcision_n church-membership_a discipleship_n etc._n etc._n you_o can_v answer_v but_o by_o rail_v which_o shall_v have_v no_o other_o reply_n from_o i_o but_o silence_n and_o patience_n sect_n 36._o h._n h._n p._n 44._o you_o tell_v we_o that_o if_o we_o have_v the_o meaning_n and_o reason_n we_o have_v 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miserable_a comforter_n for_o when_o you_o have_v do_v you_o fall_v a_o rail_n on_o we_o call_v we_o senseless_a ignorant_a wretch_n that_o will_v call_v for_o express_v scripture_n when_o we_o have_v your_o consequence_n but_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o already_o we_o dare_v not_o trust_v your_o consequence_n indeed_o scripture-reason_n be_v good_a reason_n and_o it_o be_v that_o we_o will_v have_v from_o you_o for_o which_o you_o call_v we_o ignorant_a senseless_a wretch_n reply_v 1_o it_o seem_v a_o just_a reprove_v in_o pity_n be_v a_o rail_n with_o you_o if_o so_o you_o be_v far-gone_a and_o very_o high-flown_a indeed_o 2._o it_o be_v your_o subtle_a sophistry_n to_o call_v evident_a consequence_n draw_v from_o scripture_n our_o consequence_n 3._o if_o mr._n baxter_n say_v true_a and_o you_o do_v not_o disprove_v he_o that_o evident_a consequence_n draw_v from_o scripture_n be_v as_o true_a proof_n as_o the_o very_a express_a word_n of_o a_o text_n which_o you_o can_v but_o grant_v 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now_o stand_v to_o your_o word_n and_o say_v with_o mr._n saltmarsh_n in_o another_o case_n a_o end_n of_o a_o controversy_n sect_n 39_o h._n h._n you_o say_v we_o disdain_v reason_n and_o therefore_o not_o to_o be_v reason_v with_o and_o if_o we_o once_o renounce_v reason_n we_o be_v bruit-beast_n and_o who_o will_v go_v to_o plead_v with_o a_o beast_n it_o be_v reason_n that_o differ_v a_o man_n from_o a_o beast_n etc._n etc._n answ_n you_o put_v i_o in_o mind_n how_o l●ke_a one_o of_o your_o forefather_n you_o be_v for_o to_o my_o best_a remembrance_n you_o speak_v his_o very_a word_n and_o i_o question_v not_o but_o if_o you_o have_v a_o opportunity_n you_o will_v do_v his_o deed_n viz._n doctor_n story_n to_o mr._n philpot_n see_v fox_n martyr_n p._n 1972._o reply_v 1_o mr._n haggar_n bring_v in_o a_o long_a story_n of_o dr._n story_n his_o conference_n with_o mr._n philpot_n the_o martyr_n i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o view_v either_o mr._n haggar_n or_o mr._n fox_n which_o 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