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A65817 The Leviathan found out, or, The answer to Mr. Hobbes's Leviathan in that which my Lord of Clarendon hath past over by John Whitehall ... Whitehall, John, fl. 1679-1685. 1679 (1679) Wing W1866; ESTC R5365 68,998 178

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no man ought to proceed further in the interpretation of Scripture than the Soveraign limits So that a Sover●ign ought to be either a more exact Divine than ever I heard of in the World to interpret all places of Scripture that a question is demanded of or else of a most exact and quick Iudgment to limit others how far they shall go And suppose a Soveraign prove a fool or like an ill Steersman always turning the boat round uncertain in his resolves who must interpret the matter then● But I shall pass this over without more saying as one of the chances of Mr. Hobbes his fancy Mr. Hobbes p. 263. saith That the end of Our Saviour's c●ming into the World was to restore unto God the Kingdom cut off from him by the rebellion of the Israelites in the election of Saul So far he hath renounced all Salvation by Christ. But to do him right he saith afterwards That our Saviour had an other imploy and that was to Preach that he was the Messiah and in case the Nation of the Iews should refuse him then to call to his obedience the Gentiles So now he seems only by the accident of the Iews refusal to exclude them from Salvation and by the same accident only to make the Gentiles capable of mercy Now is any thing more plain in the World than that he came into the World to satisfie God's justice for the sins of the World and with intent to bring in the Gentiles as well as the Iews and to make them one sheepfold under himself the great Shepherd And that appears from the first promise of him viz. That the Seed of the Woman should break the Serpents Head that is should take away that misery from the Seed of the Woman which the subtlety of the Serpent had brought upon it and I suppose Mr. Hobbes will not say amidst his new found unreasonable Doctrines That the Gentiles as well as the Iews were not the off-spring of Eve And he was the blood of the everlasting covenant and the great Shepherd of the Sheep spoken of Heb. 13. 20. And Iohn 1.29 he is called the Lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the World and this was before he was rejected by the Iews And all the Prophesies of our Saviour in the Old Testament express our Saviour's bringing in the Gentiles and the intent of God to do so as Isaiah 49. 22. I will lift up my Hand to the Gentiles and set up my Standard to the People and this was before our Saviour's coming into the World Texts for this I shall cite no more it being a thing so plain against Mr. Hobbes and one would wonder ever such conceits without ground or reason should come into any Man's Head Mr. Hobbes after a great deal of stir about the Trinity and the Unity of that Trinity which is hard to make any thing of or rather impossible by reason his opinion was concealed comes p. 268. to tell us his opinion in these words following viz. To conclude saith he the Doctrine of the Trinity as far as can be gathered directly from the Scripture is in substance this That the God who is always one and the same was the person represented by Moses the person represented by his Son incarnate and the person represented by the Apostles As represented by the Apostles the Holy Spirit by which they spake is God as by Moses the Father is God as represented by his Son that was God and Man the Son is God These are his very words So observe he absolutely denies in this the personal existence of the two last Persons in the Trinity And 't is in short to say as others have said before me that there is but one Person under different conceptions And the inference is direct and natural for saith Mr. Hobbes God was in three respects represented which excludes the real existence of three Divine Persons in the Godhead and only supposeth three Persons that represented this one God not that there are three Persons in the Godhead or that are God for no one is said to represent that is the Person represented Now to illustrate this the King of England is represented by the Lord Deputy of Ireland by the Viceroy of Scotland and by his Governor of the Island of Iersey But still 't is the energy of the one Person of the King that actuates them all and there are not three Persons of the King nor any of those three Persons are the King no more are there three Persons in the Godhead if we will believe Mr. Hobbes who makes the three Persons in the Trinity but three Names to express one only Person of God So 't is all one as if he had said the Son is not God as a distinct Person from the Father but that the only one Person of the Godhead was come into Man or at best had taken the Virgins Son into it or that he had said the Person of the Holy Ghost was not God as a distinct Person from the Father but that the only one Person of God inspired the Apostles So then clearly here is a denial of the two second Persons in the Trinity for if there be only one Person there is not three in the Trinity But Mr. Hobbes in this hath the confidence to say That this his fancy is all that can be gathered from Scripture concerning the Trinity And that he may meet with his match I will say the contrary and I doubt not but my authorities for my opinion will prove better than his It is said in 1 Ioh. 5. 7. There are three bear record in Heaven the Father the Word and the Holy Ghost and these three are one So this is clear that the Godhead is three Persons not as 't is represented at three different times upon Earth but as it is three distinct Persons in Heaven So this makes an end of Mr. Hobbes his conceit that there are only said to be three Persons in the Godhead to be made out by Scripture in respect of the three representations upon Earth for they are in this Text said to be three in Heaven and all three are said to be in action that is to bear record which shews they are several and distinct Persons And the 3 d of Titus 4 5 6. v. clearly shews the Trinity of the Persons really existent which Texts are viz. After the love of God our Saviour toward Man appeared By his mercy he saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost Which he shed on us abundantly through Iesus Christ our Saviour Here is God the Father that saves his people by regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost and 't is through Iesus Christ our Saviour So what can be plainer besides the Scriptures that speak of the descent and mission of the Holy Ghost that the Godhead hath three Persons in it in another manner than as it was represented by Moses for here is God the Father
observed of Mahomet's doctrine for Religion that the Turk teacheth within his Dominions or that a Papist should teach if uppermost So now Mr. Hobbes hath done like a Scholar as he may well think to find a place in the Bible to prevent Preaching against the Alcoran or Mass Yet to do Mr. Hobbes Right after his so many assertions that that only is to be acknowledged as Canonical Scripture which the Civil Soveraign saith is so and that in 1651. he attended the determination of the Sword to decide all Doctrines he saith That he can acknowledge nothing to be Canonical Scripture but that which the Church of England hath commanded to be acknowledged for such and I think there is nothing so near an Orthodox opinion in all his Book but I suppose he meant that he would acknowledge it to be so only until the Sword had at that time determin'd it After Mr. Hobbes had laid down positive general Rules for enervating the Scriptures in saying That the Authority of them depended upon the determination of the Soveraign now in his 33. Chap. he comes to the particulars of the several Books of the Scriptures and hopes there I suppose to compleat the work For he saith That the several Books especially of the Old Testament were not written by those that are commonly supposed to be the Penmen of them but by others a long time after their deaths which if true may raise a scruple to the truth of them only he saith That he supposeth Moses wrote the greatest part of Deuteronomy else that the Old Testament was penned generally by Esdras for which he cites the Apocrypha Esdras the 14 th Chapter and when he hath done so takes it for granted that Esdras penned them after the captivity To answer particularly Mr. Hobbes in this would require a very large Discourse enough to tire out both Me and my Reader besides I think it not worth my while to answer general assertions in matters of fact which are contrary to the general admissions of the most Learned Men with long Discourses but rather content my self with saying that they are not to be credited but rejected Yet to that which Mr. Hobbes is particular in I shall answer particularly He saith The Pentateuch was penned long after Moses death and for this he cites the 12. of Genesis v. 6. which saith That when Abraham passed through the Land to the plain of Moreh the Canaanite was then in the Land Which shews clearly saith Mr. Hobbes that this Book was written after Moses time because the Canaanite was not displaced till after Moses death But if Mr. Hobbes had well considered and look'd into the 7 th verse he would have found that God promised Abraham the Land in which at that time Abraham built an Altar unto the Lord which was as it were a taking possession of the Land and by God's gift he had a better right to it as to futurity than the Canaanite had whereupon Abraham by Faith look'd upon the future time and saw the Canaanite displaced and knew that by force of God's promise the Canaanites antient right to them and their posterity was changed So that the Canaanites as to the succession might be rather said to have had the Land than that they had it and so is the 48. Gen. 21. to be understood Or may not the Text be rationally intended that Moses said this to declare that the Canaanite was then in the Land and not any other people How unreasonable then it is for Mr. Hobbes to change a general supposition at the best but upon a doubtful Text of Scripture and an Apocryphal story I shall refer to any Man that hath his reason and if reason be on my side Mr. Hobbes ought to be so too because he said before that Reason is the Word of God The rest of Mr. Hobbes his Texts to prove this are nothing to the purpose and so I pass them over As to the Pen-men of the Books of the New Testament he determins nothing but saith That they were made Canonical by the Church and that the writers of them were indowed with God's spirit in that they conspire to the setting forth the rights of the Kingdom of God the Father Son and Holy Ghost Let me then ask Mr. Hobbes why they need to be made Canonical and to be approved or rejected by the Soveraign or his reciprocal Word the Sword Mr. Hobbes said p. 38. That the Scriptures by the spirit of God in Man mean a mans spirit inclined to godliness the falsness of which I have upon that page spoken to Now p. 207. he comes to treat of Spirits in general what they a●e and saith if I rightly understand him which I think is difficult in so perplex'd a discourse as he makes all over this his 34. Chapter That they are bodies for he saith that substance and body are the same thing And p. 17 53 214. saith That all substances must be bodies and that the words incorporeal substance joined together are unintelligible nonsence and imply a contradiction And so runs on further in his old vein of making positive affirmations contrary to the general received opinion of all Christian Men without giving any reason at all for his so ●aying But to reason the matter a little why are the words incorporeal substance contradictories Why may there not be a substance that hath no Body as well as a substance that hath one For substance is nothing but that which doth substare such and such qualifications as are proper and do belong to the being or nature of the thing in which those qualifications are and without which those qualifications could not be for want of something to support them As we may say that Iron which is a corporeal substance is hard so we may say that a thing of a more subtle existence or substance is intelligent rational or wise For that it may be equally capable to support these as the Iron doth hardness colour or any other qualification Now then to say that body and substance are the same thing is only a positive saying and if the words had been never thought on before might as well signifie variously as the same Then certainly 't is a strange piece of confidence to obtrude such a position upon the World without any possibility of reason which is contrary to the sentiments of all Learned persons that ever I heard of But if Mr. Hobbes ask me what a Spirit is if it be not a Body I must say that I can no more tell the likeness of it than Mr. Hobbes supposing he had never seen by some external obstruction any thing nor spoken with them that had could have told what a like thing an Horse or a grey Hound is things incapable and things obstructed giving the same account of their proceedings But 't is apparent that there is such a thing as a Spirit for our Saviour saith Luke 24. 39. Handle me and see for a Spirit hath
desiring to do mischief for the case of high Treason goes farther than belief and desire and Mr. Hobbes would think it hard else especially in this case I shall put him viz. when Mr. Hobbes only believed he could and desired to write such a Book as the Leviathan which tended in the year 1651. to keep both Church and State subverted or to resubvert them if restored had it been known the Law of the Land would not have taken his life for it but when his Book was published by him and the mischief had spread it self had the Law been unmusled he would scarce have scaped with his life except his Pocket or Legs had proved better than ever I perceived his Head But why Mr. Hobbes should be so much against ill desires in this page as to make them capital when in p. 26. he denies any Iniquity to be in them as I shall shew in its place is not to be answered save that Mr. Hobbes must be allowed to forget himself in the space of 19 pages Mr. Hobbes condemns the Schools in p. 8. and I will refer it to any reasonable Man whether he condemn them for any thing that is rational or sensible And p. 10. he saith That the best Prophet naturally is the best Guesser I suppose he means the best natural Prophet and so his ill methodised words may be true but ' ●is false to say as I shall shew anon that the Prophets of the Old and New Testament were only Guessers that is only fancied and imagined what they wrote was true Mr. Hobbes p. 11. saith That there is no Idea or Conception of any thing we call Infinite This he follows with a blaming the Philosophers and School-men for saying there is and indeed presseth this Position with a company of words that are enough to make any Man's Head to run round that is not used to Mr. Hobbes's Notions that m●ke often a great noise and signifie nothing which will appear fully in this Paragraph Where he confesseth a God but denies us any in effect conception of him and p. 16. he saith ●hat Infinite is a Negative word So there 's an end if Mr. Hobbes say true of praying to and worshipping God for what we can have no Conception of we can never Worship for such a thing is nothing as to the worshipper and consequently cannot be worshipped nothing being uncapable to be passive 'T is true we cannot conceive the infinity of God terminatively that is the extent of it which are terms contradictory but we may conceive a God or B●●ng that is infinite that is to say a G●● that can do or doth know every thi●g and is not bounded or stopt by any p●●ticular so that he can go no farther ●●t we cannot know how far that Pow●● or Knowledge doth extend This Po●●tion Mr. Hobbes grounds much upon a former Notion of his which one would not easily think he would have made such a wicked and unreasonable use of viz. That whatever we conceive hath been first perceived by sense Which Tenet is very plausible and true as to our reasonings from matter of Fact whereby we create in our selves deductions appertaining to Sense and Reason and the government of our Conversations with Men and things that we can definitively know but what is this to things above definitive Knowledge For what we cannot definitively know is not the object of Sense and yet we may conceive there may be something done or known that we cannot do or know and a power or knowledge capable to do and know as far as 't is possible for any thing to be done or known though we know not the extent of the Capacity either of the Agent or Patient and this we call infinite Power and Knowledge I think Mr. Hobbes in his Paragraph is setting up the Athenians unknown god which they ignorantly worshipp'd but St. Paul declared him unto them and I have so good an opinion of St. Paul that he would declare nothing but what was conceptible nay Mr. Hobbes himself in his 12 page approves very well of the word Infinitive though he buggards at the word Entity as useful but I would know of any rational Man of what use the word Infinitive is if we can conceive nothing by it for if we cannot conceive infinite or a thing that is infinite what do we do with the word infinitive that signifies something not bounded that is infinite And now I am upon his condemning the word Entity which he saith as well as Intentionali●y and Quiddity are insignificant words of the School p. 12. Because I see Mr. Hobbes hath no infinite capacity I will tell him the best I can that Metaphysics may not be quite exploded by arrogant Ignorance what is meant by Entity and Quiddity and as for Intentionality I do not remember it to be a word used in Philosophy it being near 20 years since I left Oxford or read any thing of that kind but as to Entity much the same with Quiddity 't is a word to express our conceptions by of the nature of any thing though no such thing was in being As a Man may conceive the nature of a Dog under such shapes and qualities though there was no such creature and the general Answer for this upon the ●uestion Quiddity is Entity the parti●●lar Caneity And further to illustrate i●● we may conceive a Man of an Opinion that there are no such persons in the Godhead as God the Son and God the Holy Ghost or of an Opinion that all the World past and present were fools and mistaken and that he only could give just measures to Words and Learning and subvert all things though in reality there was no such Person and this the Schools would call Atheisteity Arroganteity And if Mr. Hobbes or any one else should conceive a new Leviathan before 't is made the Schools would call it Leviathaneity and after Mr. Hobbes his death Hobbeity but 't is not good for Mr. Hobbes to write such an other Book lest the Lawyers though they be so ignorant as he saith they be p. 50. be ready with a Penaity and the Kings Majesty who hath suffered so much by Mr. Hobbes's first Book be not so ready with a Pardoneity which on such an occasion I believe Mr. Hobbes would own as an Entity though told him by a Schoolman and that a material Entity Mr. Hobbes p. 19. saith That the words a Free Subject are words without meaning and this he saith in his Chapter of Reason where one would not expect such Nonsence only 't is an Abridgement of his Doctrine tending to set Prince and People together by the Ears For I say I am a Free Subject and 't is as good sence as ever Mr. Hobbes spoke in his Life For I am a Subject of the Kings and free I bless God to enjoy my Property and Liberty according to the Laws of my Native Country And observe that the Egyptians nor their Lands were not
God's Spirit upon the assumption but sufferr'd it rather to attend the blessed Spirit for the plenitude of them and this is agreeable to all the Interpreters of those Texts that ever I saw except Mr. Hobbes his Leviathan And Mr. Hobbes saith further That in these last mentioned Texts the word Spirit either signifies a real substance which he said before must be a Body or else metaphorically signifies some extraordinary ability This I mention to shew that taking Mr. Hobbes together he calls God the Holy Ghost a Body though hereafter p. 268. he denies him any real existence at all Mr. Hobbes in this Chapter cites many Texts to prove that Angels have Bodies and dimensions as those that went to Lot into Sodom and other like This I shall not dispute with Mr. Hobbes though 't is more probable and agreeable to the opinion of the generality of the World that they assumed Bodies upon those particular occasions by the direction of God Almighty But then with another argument he thinks to make it sure that Angels have Bodies because Hell-fire is prepared for the Devil and his Angels and fire saith he can only work upon a Body I suppose Mr. Hobbes means our fire can only work upon a Body and then mark the strong consequence Ergo God cannot make any other sort of fire that can work upon something not Body Mr. Hobbes might as well have said that if we never had had any fire God could not have made such a thing as fire Nay Mr. Hobbes in this place confesseth That the evil Angels shall not be consumed in this fire and this shews 't is a fire not like ours and so Mr. Hobbes hath answered himself in which faculty he is the happiest Man that I ever knew But to come closer to Mr. Hobbes he I think would be troubled to make out that our fire cannot work upon a thing that is immaterial for it follows not that because it burns wood it will burn nothing that is not in the same manner substantial But after all what is this taking it as Mr. Hobbes would have it that Angels have Bodies and dimensions to prove that the words incorporeal substance imply a contradiction That is in plain English there is no substance but hath a body that is to say the great God of Heaven and Earth though Mr. Hobbes speaks plain only concerning Angels hath a Body and consequently as Mr. Hobbes saith hath dimensions and consequently is finite and not infinite So Mr. Hobbes may in time deny all the Attributes of God for before he hath denied his Knowledge and now his Infinity by direct consequence But whether Mr. Hobbes never thought of this sequel as I have so much charity for him knowing his weakness in other places to believe he never did or whether the Atheism was so gross that Mr. Hobbes durst not speak out plain I shall leave to the Reader to determin Mr. Hobbes now comes to tell what the meaning of the words Kingdom of God signifie in Holy Scripture as he calls it properly which he defines to be p. 217. God's dominion over a people by special contract As the people of Israel were subjects by the special covenant made by God with Abraham as in Gen. 17. whereby Abraham and his Seed were obliged to obey God's positive Law as by an oath of Allegiance for to the Moral Law they were obliged before This I suppose Mr. Hobbes intends for a foundation of God's distinct Kingdom as will appear by and by never distinguish'd from his general Dominion before that ever I heard of neither is there any cause to distinguish it now as he doth by necessary supposition or else all he saith signifies nothing But methinks this is too slender a foundation for such a work and the supposition that is that Abraham and his Seed were not obliged to obey God's positive Law before that special covenant is false For without doubt God's Dominion over the Earth as he is stiled Lord of all the Earth frequently in Scripture puts a duty not only upon all the Seed of Abraham but all the Seed of Adam to obey his positive Law as well as the Moral Law in case that positive Law be appropriated to them either in general or to any of them in particular as the Ceremonial Law was appropriated to the Iews and there needs no special contract to oblige any sort of Men to obey whatever God commands for he is Lord and Creator of all the Earth and the disposer and orderer of all things in it and hath a right to do so which Mr. Hobbes acknowledgeth p. 187. and saith 'T is naturally upon the account of his Power that God reigneth and punisheth the breach of his Laws and this Mr. Hobbes saith without any limitation So before I give a further answer in this Mr. Hobbes must be reconciled to himself But Mr. Hobbes goes on in this his fabrick and after several Texts cited that the Iews were God's peculiar people boldly concludes p. 218. That by the Kingdom of God is properly meant a Commonwealth instituted by consent of those that are to be subject thereto for their Civil Government which properly was a Kingdom wherein God was King and the High Priest his Viceroy And for this thanks to his grace he vouchsafeth a reason which he never did that I remember before for any of his crotchets which is That the Iews in Scripture are called an Holy Nation Now holy saith Mr. Hobbes signifieth that which is God's by special not general right Put this into a Syllogism and let us see how natural the consequence will be By an holy Nation in Scripture is meant a peculiar Nation to God But the Iews are an holy Nation Ergo by the Kingdom of God is properly meant a Commonwealth If Mr. Hobbes had made this Syllogism any one would swear that Mr. Hobbes although he railed against Aristotle had never read him or else not understood him And 't is not less absurd out of a Syllogism than 't is in for what hath an holy Nation which are God's people because they serve him in the way of Piety which respects mainly their future state to do with a Common-wealth and God's being Monarch upon Earth which he hath left in the Creation to the government of Men But Mr. Hobbes p. 218. cites divers Texts of Scripture to confirm his Position of which Texts I shall only answer two which seem to bear most in his advantage and the first is 1 Sam. 12. 12. where 't is said upon the Israelites desiring a King that God was their King Hence Mr. Hobbes collects That God was their King and governed the Civil State of the Commonwealth and that the high Priest was his Viceroy I shall agree with Mr. Hobbes that God so far governed the State of the Commonwealth as to appoint who should govern it but 't is most apparent that he no otherwise govern'd it than by appointing who should govern as
fully set forth a part that through mercy he saved us and God the Holy Ghost in another manner set forth than represented by the Apostles for this is spoken of the renewing of the Holy Ghost in all believers and Iesus Christ the meritorious cause of our Salvation which he could not have been but as he was both God and Man and Mr. Hobbes calls him so in this Chapter So that Christ as Christ Mr. Hobbes makes meer Man as he stiles him and would make him Chap. 38. though otherwise calls him in this Chapter for he makes him● only the representer of God as Moses was and the Holy Ghost Mr. Hobbes saith in effect is nothing for he saith that that denomination was attributed to God as he was represented by the Apostles So that the Holy Ghost was only an Attribute of God But besides all this Mr. Hobbes spoke before upon his reliance upon the Church of England as to matters of Faith and that the Civil Soveraign is to appoint what is to be taught for Doctrine And the Church of England and our Soveraigns have establish'd Athanasius his Creed to be read and as necessary to Salvation to be believed and that Creed as well as the begining of the Litany is expresly against Mr. Hobbes for it saith That there is one Person of the Father another of the Son and another of the Holy Ghost which Creed and Litany speak them in themselves three distinct Persons and as such are prayed to without interesting Moses or the Apostles in the matter and agree to my interpretation of Scripture So for once I hope without boasting I may say I have got the better of Mr. Hobbes Indeed this opinion of his is like the rest of the abominable and damnable whimsies of his own brain and ought to be ranked in the front of them And to give Mr. Hobbes a little over weight I will refer it to any rational Man whether Mark 1. 10. Ioh. 1. 32. do not absolutely shew the distinction of the two second Persons in the Trinity where 't is said That the Spirit of God descended from Heaven like a Dove and abode upon Christ. Now taking Christ to be God as Mr. Hobbes frequently calls him in this Chapter what was the Spirit that abode upon him but a distinct Person in the Godhead and Heb. 3. 7. conjoined to Psal. 95. 7. to which it relates may fully conclude Mr. Hobbes For the former Text saith That the Holy Ghost said To day if ye will hear his voice which last words are the words of the latter Text in the 95. Psalm So 't is apparent that in David's time which I hope Mr. Hobbes will allow to be before the Apostles time there was an Holy Ghost So I will leave Mr. Hobbes in hopes he will live long enough to recant this opinion Mr. Hobbes saith p. 282. That the four first of the ten Commandments were particular to the Israelites but the six latter obliged all mankind being but the Law of Nature I shall agree with Mr. Hobbes as to the six latter that they are but what Nature dictated before But as to the four first I would know a reason why they were not obligatory by the Law of Nature at least secondarily that is to say obligatory by Nature upon all Men that know there was one and only one living and true God as all Men may see there is by the things that he hath made which knowledge makes it as natural as to the three first Commands for us to be bound by those Laws as 't is for a Man naturally to be bound not to injure his neighbour As for Example Is it not as natural for the Creature to worship his Creator and not to set up false gods to deprive him of his honour and not to use his Name irreverently as 't is for a Man not to desire or take that which is an other Mans 'T is more natural if we will believe what Mr. Hobbes said before viz. That by Nature all Men were in an estate of Civil War and might catch what they could and in that state all force and fraud were cardinal Virtues but certainly never was any state or condition so where it was a cardinal Virtue to worship any god but the true one or to be irreverent to his Name But Mr. Hobbes his conceit is good in this place for one thing and that is that after he hath been blaspheming God and taking from him his Attributes and giving Men a toleration as to external acts or confession to acknowledge any thing for God that here he gives a reason for all that he said as to us Gentiles for we may do or say what we will no● being Iews in respect of God Almighty for that there is no Law if we will believe Mr. Hobbes to oblige us Gentiles to the contrary The four first Commands not being by the Law of Nature obligatory to any Man and being particular to the Israelites as made at mount Sinai Now the Nature of a particular Law is only to oblige that particular people for whom 't was particularly made and those were the Israelites in this case if Mr. Hobbes be an authentick Author And as to the fourth Command I think though the day be changed yet that in substance is as obligatory as the other three are by the Law of Nature for 't is as natural to set a time a part for the worship of God as 't is to worship him and since God hath limited the Iews a whole day why should not we take that as our pattern For 't is as natural to take God for our pattern in this as in other things Be ye holy as I am holy And we have not only his Command to the Iews for a pattern but his own Example of resting the seventh day and sanctifying it upon the knowledge of which why should it not be natural for Men to keep holy one day in seven For the Law of Nature is twofold either primary without any prerequisite as 't is natural for a thing that hath life to move Or secondary when something is requisite to give liberty to Nature to work as for Example Men love their Children naturally but they must know first that they are their Children before they love them as such For if a Father had never seen his Child from his birth till ten years of age and then should accidentally meet him he would love him no better then any other but after he was acquainted by undoubted circumstances that it was his Child then naturally would result an emanation of affection So after we know that there is only one God and that he hath appointed one day in seven for his service though to another people which day he sanctified and rested upon Gen. 2. 3. why is it not natural for us to serve him all mankind having an inbred awe towards something above them and that on one day in seven according to his example
not Flesh and Bones as ye see me have And if not Flesh and Bones of what must a Spirit consist that is corporeal I hope Mr. Hobbes will not say that 't is made like his deciding Sword of Iron and Steel But the apprehension that we can have of a Spirit is that it is something that is no object of our Senses and so not Mathematically descriptable but an object of our Understandings which apprehend that a good Spirit is wise and knowing and that an evil Spirit is subtle and cunning But what shall we say then of Mr. Hobbes his Spirit that is his Soul which is neither wise subtle nor cunning To this I shall only say that I think 't is no Body by reason it hath actuated every part of his Body and been in the same for near 80 Years together which it could not have been had it been Body for this would be to make several Bodies in one place at the same time which Mr. Hobbes disallows of So then the Soul of Man must be something that is not Body that is as we call it Spirit or Spiritual substance created by God in Man as Life was breathed into Adam and all other living creatures But Mr. Hobbes after his Philosophical discourse concerning the corporeousness of a Spirit cites Texts of Scripture to shew what the meaning of Spirit is there His first is Gen. 1. 2. where 't is said That the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the Waters This he saith is meant a wind wrought by God because motion is attributed to it and consequently place and nothing can be moved that changeth not place or hath not dimension and whatsoever hath dimension is Body Admirable Philosophy For mark the Argument motion and place belong to Bodies therefore nothing but a Body can have motion or place Suppose a Man should reply upon Mr. H●bbes and say Ears belong to an Ass therefore nothing but an Ass can have Ears what a trouble would this be to Mr. Hobbes to be made an Ass by his own Argument which supposeth all things to be the same to which any one circumstance or qualification equally belongeth But fully to answer Mr. Hobbes motion in this place of Scripture is intended as I think of the special and extraordinary operation of God's Spirit though some Interpreters take it I confess to be a wind impulsed by God's Spirit like Gen. 8.1 upon the Waters and not to denote God's moving from place to place as Bodies do for in that sence neither motion nor place can be attributed to God who is every where but in no place either circumscriptively or definitively as Bodies are But it follows not therefore that God by his Spirit cannot extraordinarily act in one place more than another without becoming a Body as he did in the creation upon the Waters And 't is not sence to say that of necessity dimension m●st belong to that which hath motion or place because that Bodies that have motion and place have dimension for 't is to make a general conclusion of the Being of a thing from a particular qualification and that would be to make Men Beasts and Beasts Men as I hinted before But I confess that the word Spirit in Scripture and common discourse hath various significations as Mr. Hobbes hath plentifully discoursed but what that makes to the impossibility of a substance being incorporeal I know not neither do I think it conceptible And I cannot agree with Mr. Hobbes in his several quotations of Scripture that mention our Savour who was indowed with God's Spirit and 't is abominable to question it and several eminent Persons as Gideon c. to be indowed with God's Spirit that those places as he saith only mean that our Saviour and others had special virtues for such purposes but that God had not inspired his Spirit into them to inable them to perform such and such things as when he cites the 6. of Iudges v. 34. which saith that the Spirit of the Lord came upon Gideon that is saith Mr. Hobbes Gideon had courage to defend God's people And this let me add that if it was barely courage in Gideon it was the strangest courage that I ever read of except that of Ionathan to attack so great an host as that of Midian was with only 300 Men and the arms of them nothing but Trumpets Lamps and Pitchers But if this Interpretation of Mr. Hobbes was true Oliver Cromwel or any other valiant Man might be said to have God's Spirit as well as Gideon although we do not find that so much as any of David's Worthies in the repetition of their great acts are said to have it when we cannot suppose but that they had as much courage as Gideon and upon that account might as easily have been said to have God's Spirit if by God's Spirit in such Men is only meant courage What folly then is it for Mr. Hobbes to affirm this having no warrant for it but his own fancy To which he hath given so great a latitude as in this Chapter most damnably and prophanely to make nothing of the blessed Spirit of God but a Ghost as p. 209. which in other places he makes the companion of Goblins both which he takes to be as indeed they are the imaginations of distempered brains such as Mr. Hobbes his was when he wrote this interpretation of places of Scripture of this kind when in p. 58. he saith That the Scriptures mean by the Spirit of God in Man a Man's Spirit inclined to godliness and here he saith they mean the particular virtues Men are indowed with for such purposes and whether this be not the next thing to a contradiction I shall refer to any one that hath so much virtue and godliness as to speak true for a godly Man that is one devout towards God may not be indowed with any other virtue And then Mr. Hobbes comes to Texts of Scripture concerning our Saviour as to this matter it is Luke the 4 th v. 1. and Matth. 4. 1. that express our Saviour to be full of God's Spirit This saith Mr. Hobbes was a zeal to do God's work but saith he to say God was fill'd with God is improper and insignificant And this last I shall be beholding to Mr. Hobbes for hereafter when I come to p. 268. where Mr. Hobbes denies the existence of God the Holy Ghost and the Godhead of the Son for here he confesseth the Godhead of both of them But to return to this page I am now upon Mr. Hobbes is certainly upon a wrong ground though I will not say how the blessed Spirit of God is communicated or infused into Man or was in our blessed Saviour to suppose that God the Holy Ghost must be infused into the Godhead of the Son and that the Godhead must be full of the Godhead for our Saviour had an humane Nature which he might not out of his good pleasure indow with all the graces of