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A28667 A publick tryal of the Quakers in Barmudas [sic] upon the first day of May, 1678 by Samson Bond, late the preacher of the Gospel in Barmudas. Bond, Samson. 1682 (1682) Wing B3585; ESTC R29047 105,090 110

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eminent Reasons 1. That they might thereby be kept to the unity of the Godhead for although Jehovah is Father Son and Holy Ghost yet he is not three Gods but one therefore holy men holding their minds to the unity of the essence Thou and Thee were and are most proper and necessary to preserve their minds from a plurality of Gods But this ground cannot be pleaded by a Quaker who denieth a Trinity in Unity and so he denies the only true God 2. Reas Holy men used these words thou and thee to God and one to another as occasionally they were by Holy Spirit drawn out to either of these words sc thou or thee for all Scripture is given by inspiration of God ● Tim. 3. 16. and in 2 Pet. 1. 21. Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost so then its plain that Holy men in Scripture spake these words thou and thee to God and one to another but it was then when they were moved thereunto by the Holy Ghost but I pray do ye Quakers never use those words thou and thee but then when ye are occasionally drawn out or moved by the Holy Ghost to either if any of you should be so notoriouslyvile as to father the use of those words thou and thee upon the Spirit would not the Holy Ghost tell thee that thou art of thy Father the Devil who is a lyar from the beginning Again Although holy men frequently used those words as above yet they never thereby took occasion to deny but ever used reverential respects to all sorts of persons according to their rank and quality as for instance Abraham Gen. 18. 1 2 3. as he sat in the Tent-door he lift up his eyes and looked and lo three men Angels unawares stood by him and when he saw them he ran to meet them from the Tent-door and bowed himself to the ground and said my Lord And David 1 Sam. 20. 41. rose out of his place and fell on his face to the ground and bowed himself three times to Jonathan Again in the 1 Sam. 25. 23 25. Abigail saw David and fell before him on her face and bowed her self to the ground and called him Lord Likewise Ruth Chap. 2. 10. She fell on her face and bowed her self to the ground to Boaz And in ver 4. Boaz courteously said to the Reapers the Lord be with you and they in reverential respects to him Answered the Lord bless thee Furthermore we read of reverential respects between Abraham and his Idolatrous Neighbours Gen. 23. 7. Abraham stood up and bowed himself to the People of the Lana even to the children of Heth and ver 8. he communed with them saying if it be your mind And ver 5. the children of Heth answered Abraham saying hear us my Lord thou art a Prince of God amongst us And Solomon also 1 King 2. 10. arose from his Throne and bowed himself to his Mother and Joseph Gen. 28. 12. bowed himself to his Father Jacob with his face towards the ground And in the 2 Pet. 3. 6. Sarah obeyed Abraham and called him Lord unto these Presidents many more might be alledged Thus we see though these holy persons often used thou and thee yet they ever used reverential respects to all sorts of men and that according to Gods express command as Lev 9. 32. Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head and honour the face of the old man and fear thy God I am the Lord. Thus Moses by Gods own inspiration but this ye Quakers do not therefore the Light of this Scripture reproves you as no Fearers of God And Exod. 20. 12. Honour thy Father and thy Mother which is also recited by the Apostle Eph. 6. 2. Honour thy Father and thy Mother which is the first Commandment with promise Note this Commandment comprehends not only Natural Parents Heb. 12. 9. the Fathers of our flesh but the Fathers of our Country as civil Magistrates and Rulers Isai 49. 23. yea likewise Spiritual Fathers as Gospel Ministers are phrased by Paul 1 Cor. 4. 15. we read that in our Saviours time there were some proud Professors who inclined much towards this Principle and practice of a Quaker but not in so bad a sense Mark 7. 10. ye saith Christ suffer him no more to do ought for his Father and Mother making the Word of God the commandment above of none effect and indeed as much more do the Quakers Paul also by the same inspiration of God Rom. 13. 7. Render therefore to all meaning higher Powers and Rulers ver 1 2. their dues honour to whom honour and the Apostle 1 Pet. 2. 17. Honour all men especially in places of honour fear God honour the King as Supream and Governour sent by him Moreover 1 Tim. 5 3. Honour Widows that are Widows indeed and in ver 17. Let the Elders that Rule well be counted worthy of double honour especially they that labour in the Word and Doctrine These Precepts are given by the inspiration of God and consequently are obligatory on Conscience to be performed in that useful commendable and necessary duty of reverential respects afore declared and which hath been in conscience of Gods strict and indispensible command obeyed by the holy Presidents above Secondly As the light of Scripture hath manifested this your second evil also even so likewise the Light of Scripture doth reprove it 1. It reproves you as such who want the fear of God as above Lev. 19. 32. and as such who harden their hearts against not only the many Precepts above to bind the Conscience but the many Presidents to evidence the practice Now as both are manifest reprovers of you so I wish they might make you not only ashamed of your sneaking surley dumb and scurvy carriage towards Christians but also convince you that this kind of Behaviour is not in the written Scripture without but from the pretended unwritten Scripture that Idol-light within proudly contemning the sacred Oracles of God above asserted And which is thus further argued what can the Saints in all places and Countries be more sensible of then that the generality of Quakers do purposely use those words thou and thee to deny all reverential respects to any sort of men of what rank and quality soever that by that means they may intrude themselves to be equal with any of what rank or sort soever nay thereby to advance themselves above all men under the notion of a seeming perfection which is a manifest product of their God and Man provoking pride according to that of the Psalmist Psal 123. 4. Our soul is exceedingly filled with the scorning and contempt of the proud and how is the Prophesie fulfilled in you Isai 3. 5. The child shall behave himself proudly against the antient and the base against the Honourable and observe ye well the words of the Lord Christ Mark 7. 22. Deceit Blasphemy Pride Foolishness of these four links hath Satan made your Chain of
adds Walk in the Spirit and ye shall not fulfil the lusts of the flesh for the spirit of Faith 2 Cor. 5. 13. Purifying the heart Act. 15. 9. doth by that means not only resist occasional prejudices or Lustful desires of revenge but begets also a composure of offences and a healing of injuries which are apt to arise from one Saint towards another hence the Apostle infers walk in the Spirit that is saith Calvin in loc be ye exercised therein wrestle in Spirit against all prejudicial returns of the flesh following the motions sayings and actings of the Rule of the Spirit which is the inspired word for 2 Pet. 1. 21. Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost and in so doing saith Calvin ye shall not fulfil the lusts of the flesh i. e. of corrupt sinful nature as in the 16th ver above asserted surely then the Spirit of God doth not send us from the written rule to a Quakers Spirit their Idol Light within as the only infallible rule of Faith and Life 2. Arg. The Spirit was before the written Scriptures and therefore the Spirit in us ought to be our Rule for Faith and Life Reply We know that Seducing Quakers teach because the Spirit is anticedent to the Scriptures therefore none can walk in the Scriptures till they walk in the Spirit the Consequence is as lame as a Teaching Quaker is blind however it is granted that the Spirit is anticedent to the Scripture in respect of time or as to the revelation of the Scripture howbeit the Scriptures are before the Spirit in respect of aid assistance thus the Apostle 1 Pet. 1. 12. But unto us they did minister the things which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the Gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from Heaven which Text of Scripture clearly shews that the Holy Spirit in respect of special help and assistance is subsequent to the Scriptural Gospel Preached this receives further confirmation from the Prophet Isai 8. 20. To the Law and to the testimony the written word if they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light or beam of the Spirit in them fairly intimating that the Spirits walk in a way of aid is in the paths of the Scriptures and consequently no Christians can walk in the Spirit unless he first walk in and by the Scriptures Again Joh. 7. 38. He that believeth on me as the Scripture hath said but this spake he of the Spirit ver ●9 sc of the power and help of the Spirit as subsequent to the Scriptures and in Luk. 5. 17. And as he Christ was Teaching the Power sc the Spirit of the Lord was present to heal them likewise Joh. 16. 13. When the Spirit of truth is come he will guid you into all truth that is into all Scripture Truth so then though the Spirit be anticedent to Scriptures in regard of Revelation yet in respect of aid help and assistance which is the matter in hand the Spirit is subsequent to the Scriptures and in this sense the Holy Scriptures are the infallible standing Rule of Faith and Life Rom. 1. 2. 2 Tim. 3. 15. 3d. Argument That there was a Rule of Faith and Life long before the Scriptures were written Therefore the written Scripture is not the Rule of Faith and Life Reply This Consequence also is weak and infirm it doth not therefore follow that the wr●tten Scripture is not our Rule because there was a Rule before the Scripture was written For this is that which we affirm sc That the matter contained in the Holy Scriptures is the only infallible standing Rule of Faith and Life which matter now contained in the written Scripture is the same with that which was before the Scriptures were written for when God revealed himself by visions Dreams c. It was still the s●me Gospel matter even the same that is expressed in the written word of the New-Testament There hath not been since the Gospel was Preached to Adam Gen. 3. 15. any increase of Gospel truths in respect of essentials but only in respect of explications though the manner of conveyance is different then and now yet the matter or Gospel Doctrines conveyed is still the same T is true from Adam to Moses more then 2000. years the People of God had no word written yet they had a word given from God to be their Rule else their Worship would have been like a Quakers Will worship A contrived or devised Worship to pacific or please God he could never bear with had not the Law of Sacrificing and the like been by Gods institution and appointment the Lord would have rejected it now though Sacrifices which typed out Christ were offered before the Law of Sacrificing was written yet not before the Law of Sacrificing was given for it was given from the beginning as all other parts of worship were being carried from one to another by tradition from the Fathers to the Children as in the holy stories of the Patriarchs it doth appear as it were from hand to hand till at last the La● was written and the Scriptures penned by Moses well then though the Rule they had before was not an institution written yet it was an institution sent forth given by God himself which Rule of Faith and Life then given was I say again as to the matter therein contained the same with the instituted Rule written now then all that ye Teaching Quakers have said is no more but this sc That you deny this way of written Scripture to have alwayes been the only way of Gospel-conveyance and from thence ye pretend to advance and extoll your unwritten Scrip●ure that Idol light within that thereby ye may the more craftily throw down the Scriptures inspired of God surely this Plot cannot be from the spirit of the true Christ but from your own as the Lord knows blind rotten and wicked spirit which tells you that you are no further bound to obey the written Scriptures then your Light that false Christ within shall make you willing to obey Arg. 4. That the Spirit is not to be tried by the Scriptures but the Scriptures are to be tried by the spirit therefore the spirit not the Scriptures is our standing Rule for Faith and Life Reply The Father of lies cannot make a greater lie then that which is contained in this Argument for it plainly makes the inspiring Spirit and the inspired Scripture to be of different natures which is contrary to the many Scriptures of truth afore asserted there 's not any Quaker that hath to this day produced one Text of Scripture to make good this Argument where is that place of Scripture to be found which saith the Scriptures are to be tried by the spirit doth not the spirit it self require us 1 John 4. 1. not to believe every spirit but to try not the Scriptures but the spirits i. e. spiritual
it Hear O Israel Jehovah our Elohims is one Jehovah Here is Trinity in Vnity And we read that the Prophet Isai 6. 8. Heard the voice of the Lord saying who will go for Vs this Vs denotes more persons then one likewise in Gen. 1. 26. the Elohims spake each to other and said let us make Man surely then the Trinity cannot be as some dream sc distinctions and relations only but reall existences in the essence of Jehovah for distinctions and relations are such as cannot speak but the Elohims spake each to other as above noted Obj. If it be said the plural number Vs takes in all as well as the number three Answ It doth so but when God hath determined plurality to three it is time then to settle and to be certain that there are no more which is confirmed Mat. 28. 19. Baptizing in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost that is to believe in obey and worship the Father in the Son and the Holy Ghost here you see are three in the divine Nature that do live understand will and act and here it s plainly revealed that they are so distinct that the one cannot be the other Indeed the Socinians the Quakers Brethren in this thing do deny the Holy Ghost to be a person and say It is the power vertue and efficacy of God the Father if so then the Scripture above Mat. 28. 19. must be read thus Baptizing them in or unto the Name of the Father of the Son and of the vertue power and efficacy of the Father to be believed in obeyed and worshipped which sounds absurdly utterly disagreeable to reason But above all it is inconsistent with the Scriptures of truth as in Ioh. 1. 4. And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld his glory as the glory of the only begotten of the Father and in ver 18. No man hath seen God at any time but the only begotten Son which is in the bosome of the Father he hath declared him and in Iohn 14 26. But the Comforter which is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in my Name These Texts of Holy Scripture do shew us that the Father begets the Son the Son is begotten of the Father and the Holy Ghost proceeds from both Furthermore when the Lord Christ was Baptized Mat. ● 15 16 17. the Father was heard and not seen the Holy Ghost in the form of a Dove seen and not heard and Christ the Son both seen and heard the Father saying of Christ this is my Son and the Holy Ghost descending and lighting upon him which is a most clear demonstration of their real and personal dictinction Again in 1 Joh. 5. 7. For there are three that bear Record in Heaven the Father the Word and the Holy Ghost and these three are one Now if they be three then they must be in some respect more then one and not the same besides it argues weakness to quarrel the Phrase Persons for as much as the Person doth Grammatically tria necessaria sunt ut aliquid persona dicatur signifie first second and third which makes three this only by the bye for illustration rather then evidence though we do not find this Phrasiology in the Scriptures sc Trinity of Persons yet this is not a sufficient ground to deny it for though we have not the words yet having the things signified in and by the words it ought to satisfie a rational Saint as for the things signified the Texts above are fair and plain affirming there are three that bear Record or witness now to bear witness is properly the office and act of a person or persons Qu. Whether the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost are declared as three distinct witnesses Answ Yes that they are so may appear by the testimony of these Scriptures Joh. 8 18. I am one that bear witness of my self and the Father sent me beareth witness of me and Joh. 15. 26. But when the Comforter is come whom I will send unto you from the Futher even the Spirit of truth which proceedeth from the Father he shall testifie of me here we have the Father Son and Holy Ghost witnessing that is to say the Comforter sent the Son sending and that from the Father which proves them to be distinct witnesses and by good consequence to be distinct persons herewithal let it be well observed sc To deny as Teaching Quakers do the Trinity of persons in the unity of the Godhead is in down right terms to deny that there is a God for the Scripture inspired of God saith These three are one Therefore to deny the Trinity is to deny in Unity which is Atheistical so much in Answer to the requests o● some of the Lords people in Barmudas With whom I shall now in a few words leave my hearty well wishing advice beseeching them and all the rest of the Lords People there to be ever mindful of the Blessed Apostles resolution Act. 21. 13. I am ready to die for the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ a most gracious as well as noble resolution and fit for every good Christians imitation which is indeed 〈◊〉 l●ss then the standing against the Gates of Hell by bearing witness to the holy Truth of God O let us rather burn then ●ow to that Idol light which the Romish Nebuchad●zzar ha●h set up in Teaching Quakers Oh let us rather die for the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth then leave the Mark of the Beast citeer within or on us rather let us lose our heads from our shoulders then renounce that saving head who is ascended up into the Heavens above O let us rather effuse our dearest blood and die glorious Martyrs then live Apostates from and die persecutors of Jesus of Nazareth And for your constant incouragement herein let us heartily learn the Apostles inspired Lesson Rom. 8. 7. In all these we are more then Conquerers through him that loved us FINIS
e. by being ashamed of the true Christ and turning away from him as ye are and do This Oh this is to put the blessed Son of God to an open shame and even this is to do despight to the spirit of Grace and shall they who despite the spirit of Grace ever find the benef● of Gospel Grace The 〈…〉 this That the Scriptures of Truth do plainly charge the generality of Quakers with the guilt of the sin against the holy Ghost because they have sinned wil●●lly after a profession openly made 〈…〉 in the Lord Christ 〈◊〉 of the Virgin Mary in the City of Da●● 〈…〉 2. 11. to be the true Christ and their only Saviour and therefore 〈…〉 so do ye now crucifie not in but to your 〈…〉 Son of God a●resh and put him to an open shame Oh that 〈◊〉 I do heardly wish it would bring these repeated plain dealings effectually home to your hearts remembring from whence ye are fallen and 〈◊〉 and do the first works Rev. 2 5. 9. Lastly As it is above noted in what sense this Disputant F. E. intended the fore-asserted Notions sc that the Word took flesh and in that flesh dyed for all men I could not certainly determine nor could as I am perswaded he himself as it may appear by the Answer he then made to a Question which I put unto him ●o wit Quest Whether he F. E. did believe that Jesus Christ of Nazareth the Man approved of God among the People and whom the Jews slew and God raised from the dead and also received up into Heaven were the true Christ and his only Saviour He forthwi●h Answered That be did believe it Capt. Bascomb then called to him saying Thou wilt deny 〈…〉 tomorrow and withal I likewise told him that by this his open confession of the true Faith he had openly declared himself to be a Christian and no Quaker and I furthermore said to him that he had by that Gospel confession of Faith manifestly contradicted what he had contended for in his present Discourse called Disputation and that he had also thereby confirmed the first part of the charge against them namely That a Quakers pretended Saviour within him was not the true Christ but the false Christ And at the same time Nathaniel Bethel spake to him saying Francis you were not long since of another Faith or of another Opinion for you told my Wife That if she did believe in any other Christ then in that Christ which was within her she would be damne● But Francis Jesuite-like openly denied that he had spoken any such Words to his Wise thereupon Nathaniel Bethel replied to him in the face of the Congregation that he would depose what he had declared to be a truth Since that time I have been informed of the occasion which invited these words from the sad-Quaker it was thus discoursing of the old Brigham a man of the fifth-Monarchy perswasion who said he hoped to live to see Jesus Christ on the Earth and to shake him by the hand then F. E. said But he sc Brigham should be first sure that Jesus Christ had a hand Bethels Wife then told him that Christ had now a hand for I do said she Believe that Christ hath now the same body in Heaven which he had when he was upon the Earth at this expression of her Faith this frank-Quaker was offended and could not forbear but in plain terms told her that she was a Blasphemer or had spoken Blasphemy and withal he further said unto her as above To wit That if she believed in any other Christ then in that Christ which was within her she would be damned O most horrid Quakerisme dig'd out of the bottomless Pit from whence thou hast received thy Ordination to be a Teaching Seducing and Lying Quaker For Francis thou knowest both this Man and his Wife to be persons of good Name credit and of honest reputation in this Country and therefore worthy to be believed before thy self Oh that the Lord would give thee grace to repent of thy evident wickedness and grievous God provoking Blasphemy proceeding from the false Christ within thee which undoubtedly thou hast wretchedly aggravated by making as much as in thee lay this faithful witness an open lyar and that as most of the Christian Hearers j●dged contrary to the Testimony of the render part thy Light-Christ-Conse●●nce within Oh that I could prevailingly advise thee to think how deservedly the dreadful words of the holy Apostle Act. 13. 45. may be charged on thee viz. They the Jews were filled with envy and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul contradicting and blaspheming For 1. The manner of thy words as above plainly declare that thou were filled with envy 2. The matter of her words was the same with the thing spoken by Paul not only in ver 37 38. but also in chap. 3. 13. 21. The God of our Fathers hath glorified his Son Jesus whom the Heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things so that thou wert not only filled with envy but with blas●hemous contradictions now Francis this being thy case truly stated hast thou not indeed cause to repent over thy false-Christ that hath as above filled thy heart with envy and thy tongue with Blasp●●my against the the truth of God believed and confesse● by that good Woman above By the way I may not omit Capt Bascombes m●tion ma●e unto me upon the confession of F. E. his Faith above c. That Jesus of Nazareth was received up into Heaven to ask him where Heaven was it seems the Captain knew that the Teaching Quakers had Jesuitical-equivocations and mental reserves accordingly I askt him where Heaven was but he made me no Answer thereupon his tender headed-iniquity-Brother William Harriot said Heaven was where it should be I demanded of him where that was he replied like himself Heaven was there where God would have it to be by these impertinent silly shifts the intelligent Hearers perceived that they were basely afraid to stand to their Quakerisme Principles it s well known that at other times they have confidently avouched as their Scripture-wresting-Guids teach that Heaven as well as Hell is within them for which that Text especially is pretended Luk. 17. 21. For behold the Kingdome of God is within you sc the Pharisees ver 20. whereas by Kingdome of God in that place our Saviour understands the Gospel of God Preached as Mark 1. 14. Jesus came into Galilee Preaching the Gospel of the Kingdome of God and in Luk. 10. 11. Be ye sure of this that the Kingdome of God is come nigh unto you likewise Mat. 21. 43. Therefore said Iesus unto the Pharisees the Kingdome of God shall be taken from you and given to a Nation bringing forth the fruits thereof and ver 45. When the chief Priests and Pharisees had heard his Parables they perceived that he spake of them These Scriptures do plainly shew that by kingdome of God
in Luke 17. 21. Christ doth not mean the Kingdome of glory in Heaven but the Kingdome of the Gospel Preached by himself and his Apostles on Earth to which he answered nothing In the next place F. E. doth as I suppose expect some Answer to his reflection on me at the end of his tedious Discourse afore signified sc That I had not in any thing which was said by me he meant in the four Arguments proving the first part of the charge made any mention of Christ as God to be the Saviour Answ Bold Man who art thou that ●●achest the Apostles of Jesus Christ yea the Holy-Ghost himself how to speak who were the fa●thful Witnesses that proved all which was said by me in those four Arguments and that I might prevent which I foresaw such carpings I barely repeated the Apostles express words mentioning in a manner no more then what is plainly asserted by them what dost thou then but under colour of reflecting on me reflect upon the holy Apostles themselves Alas poor Man had it not been more honesty in thee to have thus charged the Apostles then me who wrested not but only repeated the Apostles words for the confirmation of the alledged Arguments thou shouldest have clamoured against the Apostles thus there is not a word by them mentioned of Christ as God to be the Saviour and wouldest thou not hadst thou thus done have been as bold as blind Bayard It s most evident that the Apostles preached Christ as Man Not but that he was and is also God to be believed in for the rem●ssi●n of sins both to the Jews and to the Gentiles so that thy quarrelsome reflection on me is in effect a manifest denying the Testimony of the Apostles joyntly testifying of the Man Jesus Christ of Nazareth to be the only Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the World reconciledworld 2 Cor. 5. 19. for there is no other Man Name or Thing ever in Scripture called the Lamb of God which takes away sin but the one Man Jesus Christ and so it is Recorded by Christs witness bearer Joh. 1. 29. 30. One would now think that the very mentioning of these things were enough to refute them with whom the Scriptures of God have any credit But what shall I say unto thee Francis I would in true love only to thy distressed Soul advise thee to search as in Iohn 5. 39. the Scriptures for I find thee very ignorant of the truth as testified in them and hence asserting new notions which thou hast received from other men which tend to the darkening and denying of the unanimous Testimony of all the holy Men of old to the true Saviour Jesus of Nazareth and to Salvation through Faith in him and that thou mayest be delivered from the dangerous snare of the false Christ the Idol-light within is the hearty desire of him whom for his Faith in and to the truth thou hast opposed William Bullock was the next Disputant to prove That a Quakers pretended Saviour within him is not the false but the true Christ And thus he Argued saying That which may be known of God is manifest in them and t●en st●pt Therefore I prayed him to tell us were tho●e words repeated above were to be found he readily told me sc in Rom. chap. 1. ver 19. Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them for God hath shewed it unto them 〈◊〉 was the only Proof named by them I further demanded of him what he inferred from this Text of Scripture but because he lookt as if he understood not what was meant by that demand I requested him to frame some Argument from the Text alledged by him to prove the matter in hand but all in vain a Syllogisme being as great a Monster to him as Jesus Christ of Nazareth Thereupon I did declare That the Apostle did not there understand the word God to signifie Christ God Man and as for the phrase in them it is interpreted to them as in the very next words in the same verse sc For God hath shewed it to them likewise Paul doth tell us both how and where God shew'd them this as in ver 20. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made even his eternal power and godhead which Godhead alone is not to be understood for God-man Christ the only Saviour in a word The mind of the Spirit in these two 19 20. verses sc is no more but this namely that the eternal power and Godhead was manifested in i. e. shewn to the Gentiles unconverted by the things that are made or created from the creation of the World this being the true state of the Text above how they could prove the thing to wit That a Quakers pretended Saviour within him is the true not the false Christ for which they were brought surely none but young and old Bullocks or such as are of that kind can understand I expected some reply from this Disputant to the substance above asserted but instead of a reply he urged another Prool this was their manner even all along that thereby they might ●loa● their weakness and insufficien●●● for returns saying The flesh profiteth nothing it is the Spirit that quickeneth Upon his inversion of the order of the words I desired him to name the Chapter and verse where the words as he had spoken them might be found but he did it not I then named both viz. Joh. chap. 6. ver 63. It is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh profiteth nothing He again refusing to frame an Argument Therefore to the Text. 1 Answered 1. If these words were to be understood in this sence sc That the Lord Christ on the account of his body of flesh profiteth nothing to Salvation but it s the quickning spirit within that is the only Saviour Then what interpretation wouldst thou put upon Christs words in the same Chapter ver 53. foregoing Then Jesus said unto them verily verily I say unto you except ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood ye have no life i. e. Spirit ver 63. ult in you or wilt thou make Christ who is the wisdome of God 1 Cor. 1. 30. guilty of contradiction and so a Lyar to which he replied nothing save that he had spoken Scripture which necessarily engaged me to reconcile those Scriptures to the understanding of the hearers which I endeavoured thus Joh. 6. 63. It is the spirit that quickeneth i. e. the soul of man naturally dead in sins Eph. 2. 1 5. the words exclude all endowments qualifications or excellencies in the natural man from this soul quickening work hereunto agrees the words of our Saviour in the end of the 63d verse above The words that I spake unto you they are spirit and they are life that is to say the spirit of faith is the souls life or special quickening so that the
it is I my self meaning your Lord and Master and likewise after his ascention Act. 22. 8. And I answered who art thou Lord and he said unto me I am Jesus of Nazareth whom thou persecutest to these many more might be added to evidence that by Lord in the Text above 〈◊〉 man hood of Christs person is to be understood at least not to be excluded For in ver 11. Christ saith I am Alpha and Omega the first and the last here Alpha and Omega are explained by the terms Of the first and the last that is to say the Lord Christ is the first to wit subsisting in the beginning with God and equal with the Father and the last having taken the 〈◊〉 of a Servant i. e. of the meanest man and so last in reputation Phil. 2. 6 7. Third part Which is and which was and which is to come the Almighty by the distribution of the threefold time is meant as Aretas and Brightman on the 4th verse the trinity of persons which is or I am as in the first part are here of the same import and do refer to the Father Exod. 3 14. and which was to the Son Joh. 1. ver 1. And which is come to the Holy Ghost Iohn 16. 8 13. The Almighty This last word of the verse denotes the omnipotency eternal essence and Godhead of Christs person the sum of both sc 1. 11. verses above do reveal unto us only two things 1. The union of the two Natures in the person of Christ namely that he was and is true God and true man in one person 2. The Trinity of persons in the unity of Essence Now Francis doest thou think that either of these things containing the true sense of the Texts alledged by thee will prove your cause That a Quakers pretended Saviour within him is the true Christ surely thou canst not be so bruitish as to think so but rather the contrary sc That it is the false Christ the Devil this Conclusion made Patience an impatient Bullock she being unable to forbear any longer calls to me What quoth she dost thou make our Christ within us to be the Devil To her I made Answer saying that I did solemnly and with much reverence as in the presence of God to whom I must shortly be accountable for my words declare that I do most assuredly know that a Quakers pretended Christ within him is the false Christ the Devil whom ye ignorantly believe in and worship and with whom ye will be damned in Hell if ye repent not to this most serious Declaration she made no reply at all But F. E. forthwith replied saying Thou hast no warrant from the Scripture thus to speak I told him that I had sufficient warrant from the Scriptures to make good what I had in the fear of God declared and forthwith I alledged the words of Jesus Christ of Nazareth himself Ioh. 8. 24. I said therefore unto you that ye shall die in your sins this Scripture silenced him likewise and thereupon I told him that the true Christ had stopt his mouth Let me here add some other Scriptures for some further warrant as Ioh. 3. 18. He that believeth not sc on the Son of God sent into the World ver 17. is condemned already that is he is as sure to be damned as if he was actually in Hell and in ver 36. He that believeth not on the Son sc bo●n of Mary Luk. 1. 35 shall not see life but the wrath of God abideth on him likewise in Luk. 19. 14. And his Citizens hated him sc the Son of Man the Saviour ver 10 and sent a message after him saying we will not have this Man to reign over us let it be here well Noted that the true Christ calls those Citizens his Enemies and such Enemies as he would destroy ver 27. But those mine Enemies which would not that I the Son of Man ver 10. above should reign over them bring hither and slay them before me in Mark also Chap. 16. ver 16. He that believeth not sc on Jesus risen from the dead ver 9. shall be damned Now Frank didst not thou speak under the Power of Satan when thou didst so openly and confidently affirm that I had no warrant to speak as I did when I spake to thy fellow-Labourer in the work of the false Christ The next Bolt was shot by William Bullock and he tells us The Light makes manifest lifting up his voice lowder and lowder crying out tell me tell me the true and real meaning of those words the Light makes manifest I surely thought that his lowd Lowing and Bellowing was to prevent my asking of him where those words might be found in the Scriptures which I did forbear to ask because I knew his Answer sc t is Scripture Answ 1. I told him that he was at his old trade of mangling the Scriptures and then shewed him wherein namely that it was not the Light maketh manifest but whatsoever doth make manifest is Light which the ●ext made to appear in Eph. 5. 13. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the Light for whatsoever doth make manifest is light 2. By Light here we are to understand a Sin-reproving-light inasmuch as the latter part doth interpret the former part of the verse sc But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the Light i. e. by the Light of Scripture whence Paul argues thus for whatsoever doth make manifest in a way of Reproof is light sc Scriptural light as before for the written Scriptures are frequently described by Light Psal 119. 105. Thy Word is a Light unto my path Isai 8. 20. To the Law and to the Testimony if they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them Here the written Word such was the Law and Testimony is the only manifesting and so determining-light either for reprehension or satisfaction in cases of error and doubts and the reason of it is assigned by the Apostle 2 Tim. 3. 16. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for Reproof for Instruction or manifestation and hereunto agrees the words of our Lord and Saviour Joh. 3. 26 21. For every one that doth evil hateth the Light neither cometh to the Light lest his deeds should be reproved But he that doeth truth cometh to the Light that his deeds may be made manifest 1. By Light in these verses Christ understands the Doctrinal-light contained in the written Scripture of the New-Testament which was preached by him and his Apostles hence it is that the Lord Christ Joh. 8. 12. and his Apost●es Mat 5. 14 are called the ●ight of the Wonld 2. That this Light doth reprove ver 20. and manifest ver 21. well then William thy ●em●●d is granted thee namely that the true and real meaning of the Text 〈◊〉 by thee is this to wit That the light of Scripture doth make reproved evils manifest or evils
Apostle is Iesus born of Mary who is called Christ Mat. 1. 16. the Iesus of Nazareth a man approved of God among the Iews Act. 2. 23. But a Teaching Quaker doth deny Jesus of Nazareth born of Mary a man approved of God among the Iews to be the Christ and therefore the Conclusion is undeniable sc That a Teaching Quaker doth deny that Jesus is the Christ And as this is undeniable so is the other namely That a Teaching Quaker is a Lyar and an Antichrist which is further evidenced 1 Ioh 4. 3. And every Spirit that confesseth not that Iesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God and this is that spirit of Antichrist in the fle●● here is put for the flesh it self as in Scriptures aforementioned now to deny Christs Manhood to be a Saviour is to deny Iesus to be the Christ Secondly As the Light of Scripture doth manifest Teaching Quakers especially to be Liars Deceivers and Antichrists yea the Spirit of Antichrist so it doth also reprove them 1. Because as such they are of the Dragon and Beast making War with the Lamb ●ev 13. 9 10 The Man Iesus Ioh. 1. 29 30. and the faith delivered to the Saints 2. As such they are Contradicters and Blasphemers of the Truth which the holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost 2 Pet. 1. 21. For instance Ioh. 1. 14. And the Word God ver 1. was made flesh Flesh i. e. true man for he dwelt among us the Iews and we beheld the Glory of him this dweller among us concerning whom the Witness-bearer sent of God ver 6 hare Record that he was a true man ver 30. there by witnessing That ●esus Christ was true Man as well as true God and both in his one person which Article of our Christian Faith is deried by most Teaching Quakers Another Instance we have ● Tim 3. 16. God was manifest in the flesh i. e. Mankind flesh or true and whole Man for so the Phrase in the Flesh can●otates as it hath been already cleared from the Scriptures of God so that God was manifest in the flesh doth not teach us that God is to be considered as distinct from the flesh but that God was manifest flesh real man-kind flesh and thereby the Godhead and the M●nhood were united in the one person of Christ and made manifest to the Apostles bodily senses of seeing hearing and ●eeling 1 Ioh. chap. 1. ver 1. 2. Likewise Paul Act 63. 38. Through this Man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins through or by ver 39. This Man viz. The man Iesus of Nazareth who by the wicked hands of the Iews was slain and hanged on a tree and then by God the Father raised from the dead the third day and exalted to be a Saviour to give remission of sins Act. 2. 22. Chap. 5. 29 30. through This Man is preached the forgiveness of sins as above For so hath the Lord commanded us ver 47. at which commanded Preaching the wicked Iew● were filled with envy and spake as Teaching Quakers do against those things spoken by Paul as above contradicting and blaspheming ver 45. So much for your first evil manifested and reproved by the Light of divine Scripture though there are many professed evils amo●g Quakers which the Light of holy Scripture doth manifest and reprove yet I shall now make men ●on but of one more because I would not be too voluminous The Second Evil is The profess●a perfection of a Quakers seeming Sanctity consisting in Thou and Thee thereby denying all reverential respects to any sort of men of what rank or quality soever For method sake we will in the first place ●ear what they have to say for themselves touching this matter 1. They are apt to say because they have often said it that Thou and You are of distinct significations in Scripture and likewise Thee and You the one signifying a Singular the other a Plural Answ These terms of thou thee and you are to alwayes in Scripture of distinct significations as it appears Lev. 19. 12. Ye or you shall not Swear by my Name falsly neither shalt thou prophane the Name of thy God In this Scripture Ye or You and Thou are of the same signification and in Ier. 3. 12. Return thou backsliding Israel and I will not cause my anger to fall upon you here likewise thou and you are of the same signification again in Luk. 17. 21. the Kingdome of God is within you you here doth in your sense signifie each particular Quaker 2. Nor are these words sc thee and you alwayes in Scripture of dictinct significations as in Deut. 28. 9. herein thee a singular and holy People a plural are of the same signification so in Isai 26. 20. here People and thou are of the same import To these Scriptures would it not render me tedious to the Reader I might add many more to gainsay this their trifling Assertion for you and thou are oft in Scripture and reason convertitable terms for instance thou in the Decalogue is indefinitely understood 2. They are ready to affirm sc To salute a single person under the notion You is both improper and irrational for it were to confound singular and plural in point of right reason Answ It s neither for it s not improp●r nor irrational to say to a single man This Youth is your Son for you a●e his Father which to 〈…〉 is as proper and rational as to say thou art is Father and the reason is because you and your are of the same nature unasmuch as the one is derived from the other Now as Your is applieable to one as to many so is You likewise Again it is both proper and rational to ●ell a single person This house is your house for you have a good ●itle to it which is as proper and rational as to say thou hast a good ●itle to t●o hou●e and consequently it is not only irrational to affirm that this dot 〈…〉 confound the terms of thou and you ●ts Diabolical to 〈◊〉 a the Quakers do thou and thee making it the daily 〈◊〉 for your levilling inflamed-pride 3. They say for themselves That holy men in the Scriptures did use the words thou and thee not only one to another but to God himself Answ This is granted howbeit I pray can any of you Quakers produce me one holy Man in Scripture expressed which used these words thou and thee that he might thereby take occasion to deny as ye wickedly do all reverential respects to any sort of men of what rank or quality soever sure I am ye cannot produce me one such man for this bruitish kind of practice is contrary to the manifold Precepts and Presidents also in the Scriptures of truth as afterwards shall plainly appear Indeed we Christians do acknowledge that holy men in Scripture did use the words thou and thee not only one to another but to God himself for two
darkness which is most evident from a due consideration of the foregoing truths Oh how suitable is the Prophets Vision to a Quakers condition Obad. 1. ver 1 2. Behold I have made thee small thou art greatly despised the pride of thy heart hath deceived thee c. From the whole be ye advised 1. To cease from making your Idolized Thou and Thee the spring of your scurvy and surly deportment with their mask to wit that holy men in Scriptur recorded did oft use thou and thee one to another and to God himself Now what is your design herein can it be ought else then to put a cheat on the judgements of some ignorant creatures as thus Oh surely say they the Quakers do make Conscience of the Scripture for their warrant and authority thus poor ignorant ones are deluded by your equivocations though its most certain that the Scripture no here commands a Quaker to thou or thee any man much less Christian Rulers Governours and Magistrates yet th●se things the unmannerly Quakers will do But the Scripture doth command all men to pray for Rulers Governours and Magistrates to submit unto them and to give the honour which is due to them as Fathers of the Country 1 Tim 2. 1 2. 1 Pet. 2. 13. Isai 49. 23 yet these things they will not do so that in a word of truth the profess●d perfection of a seemingly sanctified Quaker is a conscience of obeying his proud lusts and disobeying Gods inspired Laws 2. Cease from calling the reverential Presiden●s above the corruptions that are in the World through Lust for this is to make the fore expressed precepts of God and the Practises of his eminent Sain●s guilty of these corruptions but it s no new thing for a Quaker boldly to Blaspheme 3. Cease from wresting the Holy Scriptures especially that of Christ himself John 5. 44. How can ye believe which receive honour one of another The other part of the verse giving light to these words is usually omitted by them sc and seek not the honour that cometh from God only Quest What is that Honour which cometh from God only Answ The 23d verse tells us All men should honour the Son even as they honour the Father he that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him meaning to fulfill all righteousness Mat. 3. 15. It s then clear that the Son of God is the honour intended above if any ask who is this Son of God the good Angel tells us Luk. 1. 35. That holy thing which shall be born of thee Mary ver 34. shall be called the Son of God so then the Man Jesus Christ is the honour that cometh from God only which honour the Jews like the Quakers received not as this Son of God told them ver 43. I am come in my Fathers Name and ye receive me not sc by Faith hence Christ infers ver 44. above How can ye believe which receive Honour one of another and seek not the Honour which cometh from God only Now the Honour which the Pharisees received one of another was the Doctrine of Justification and Eternal Life by the works and righteousness of the Law fulfilled in and by the Son of God alone which righteousness of the Son is the justifying and saving honour that cometh from God only to right Believers will it hence follow because the proud Pharisees took divine honour to themselves and thereby received honour one of another therefore civil honour ought not to be given one to another let me tell you ye Quakers could not have brought a Scripture more full against your selves for under Heaven there are not a People to be found that receive more honour one of another then the men of your Sect do For ye affirm and boldly teach That he who made Heaven and Eearth Angels Principalities and Powers that hath a Name above every Name that is named King of Kings and Lord of Lords the Prince and only Saviour that gives repentance and remission of fins is in each of your vile bodies It s not to be wondred at that ye are so possessed with the infernal Spirit of superlative pride against Jesus of Nazareth the man approved of God and all true Believers on and lovers of him So much for some further satisfaction to William Bullock and his Light making manifest The next to him was F. E. He makes another motion on the behalf of his Cliant the false Christ and pretended Saviour within him to wit The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin The Text intended by him is in the 1 Joh. 1. 7. And the Blood of Jesus Christ his Son His Son he left out cleanseth us from all sin Answ Nor doth this Text of Scripture prove the thing for which it is brought For 1. Jesus Christ the Son of God in this 7th verse is that Word of Life which the Apostles ve 1 2. had heard and seen with their eyes and looked upon and with their hands had handled who could be no other than the Man Iesus Christ which to prove they bring in the operations of three of their five senses Now this Man Jesus Christ the Son of God as such he cannot be in a Quaker 2. By the Blood of this Son of God is meant the grievous sufferings pains and tortures which he endured on the Cross to the death and therefore called the blood of the Cross Col. 1. 20. as the Man Jesus Christ cannot be in a Quaker so consequently his bloody sufferings cannot be in a Quaker 3. That this blood of Christ cleanseth meaning all right Believers on it from all sin i. e. from all the pains and eternal sufferings due to the nature of sin for cleansing here is the same with washing in Rom. 1. 5 And from Iesus Christ the faithful Witness that loved us and washed us from our sins in his own blood i. e. in the sufferings of the Manhood of his p●rson for the former part of the verse concerns Christs Propetical Office and the latter part his Priestly Office which referred to Christs humane Nature and for that reason the cleansing or washing cannot be within but without us sc in Heaven Heb. 10. 19. Having therefore Brethren boldness to enter into the Holiest by the blood of Iesus So then to be cleansed from all sin by Christs blood is to be acquitted and justified in the sight of God from all the deserved miseries of sin as Rom. 5. 8 9. But God commendeth his love towards us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us much more then being now justified by his blood we shall be saved from wrath through him And the same Apostle tells us Col. 1. 21 22. Yet now hath be reconciled in the body of his flesh through death or through the death of his body of flesh Heb. 10. 20. To present you holy and unblamable and unreprovable in his sight not in our selves for Rom. 4. 5. He justifieth
in the same Book Page 25. What nature sayes he must these Sacrifices be of which cleanse heavenly things sc Souls whither of necessity they must be heavenly if so then whither it was the flesh and blood of the vail or the flesh and blood within the vail whither it was the flesh and blood of the outward earthly nature or the flesh and blood of the inward spiritual nature whither it was the flesh and blood which Christ took of the first Adams nature or that of the second Adams nature Ans In the three-fold Querie above two things are asserted neither of them are mentioned in the Scripture of truth 1. That the Lord Christ had a two fold Body of flesh and blood the one internal and invisible the other external and visible and then●e concludes that it is not the external visible earthly body but the internal invisible heavenly body which cleanseth Souls which he names heavenly things 2. That there is an inward spiritual nature still the Idol light within which hath mystical flesh and blood besides the outward earthly nature the one he calls the flesh and blood of the vail the other the flesh and blood within the vail All which he seems to ground upon the Apostles words Heb. 10. 19 20. Having therefore Brethren boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Iesus by a new and living way which he hath consecrated for us through the vail that is to say his flesh Note here The Apostle doth not make any mention of two distinct natures nor of two sorts of flesh and blood sc visible and invisible ●or in the least of two distinct vails Now that his jugling cheat may be discovered let the Apostles mi●d be duely considered whose meaning is to wit That Believers may draw near to God through the vail of Christs personal flesh and blood for we Christians believe according to the Scriptures of God that as the High Priest entred into the holy place with the blood of the Sacrifice so the true Christ by his own blood entred in once into the holy place into heaven it self now to appear in the presence of God for us Heb. 9. 12. 24. the whole is That the body of Christs flesh and blood entring into Heaven the holiest is that new and living way consecrated for right Believers to draw near to God for justification through Faith in the one only vail of Christs flesh glorified in Heaven above which precious Truths are worth nothing in the account of a Quaker Furtheamore let it be noted that the word Vail in an allusion to the Temple where the vail hid the glory of the Sanct●m Sanctorum and gave entrance to it even so Christs incarnation did as it were rebate the edge of the divine glory and brightness that Believers may come and converse with it without terror for some further illustration I shall here add sc That Christ is the true Jacobs Ladder Joh. 1. 51. the bottom of which toucheth Earth there is his Humanity or vail of flesh and blood and the top reacheth Heaven there is his Divinity so that we may climb this Ladder and have communion with God i. e. climbing up in hope by the Man-hood or vail of Christ we have social access to the God-head By the way observe That this Foxt Penington doth not alleadge any of the holy men of old that ever preached or writ such kind of Divinity as he hath done in his leger demain above whereby sundry unstable Consciences have been deceived I have often heard some of them to affirm That the Quakers do believe in Christs body of flesh and blood and that he died for sin and rose again and that he is Mans only Saviour howbeit they do but wickedly equivocate for they do not mean that the body of flesh and blood life and death c. of Jesus of Nazareth conceived in and born of the blessed Virgin Mary hath purchased justification in the sight of God and Salvation from sin but they deceitfully mean sc the new ●oined invisible flesh and blood of the heavenly Mystical Christ still the I●ol-light within that died within and there rose to a righteousness and justification which is a brat hatcht only in their addle brains from whence also it is they teach a Mystical Bethlehem within where Ch●ist was born that he suffered and died without Ierusalem that is say they Mystical Jerusalem within O ye Quakers judge whither these are not strong and damnable delusions So much also for some further satisfaction to William Bullock F. E. and W. H. concerning those words But a body thou hast prepared me Heb. 10. 5. which was the last Text of Scripture proposed by them in reference to the first part of the Charge as above I now proceed to the Second part To wit That the main end of the Quakars Meetings in these Islands is to make the Lord Christ his Holy Spirit his Angels and Apostles all Lyars and false Witnesses of God As I was about to prove the second part of the Charge against them Francis Eastlack interrupted me saying Thou never wert in our Meetings how then canst thou know what we teach in them I Replied T is true I bless the Lord I never were nor as I hope through the mercy of God never shall be as one of you in any of your Meetings notwithstanding I know what you Teach and mainly aim at in your Meetings for ye are G. Foxes Disciples and ye have learned his Doctrine and as I was about to read some of it they grew impatient and by no means would have it read thereupon I did forbear but I have here inserted it to wit G. Fox in his Book intituled the Mystery Page 49 50. hath these words Ye scorn me the light in you they have disobeyed it and called it a natural light and ye have said that I the light am not able to save those that believe in me Furthermore Page 54. That if ye would believe and wait on me the light I will purge out all your iniquity and forgive all your Trespasses and I shall change your natures if you hearken to me and obey the light within These are the words I would have read but being hindred I told them what they taught in their Meetings to wit That the pretended Light in them is their true Christ Teacher Rule and Guid to be heard believed in walked up unto and obeyed as the only Saviour to give remission of sins and Salvation with God to which F. E. forth with replied That he would for this lay down his life and to confirm him therein W. Harriot then said we deny the out side Christ to be our Saviour Then I requested the Hearers to take good notice sc they have plainly granted that the end of their Meeting to be for to Teach a denial of Jesus of Nazareth the Man approved of God Act. 2 22 to be the true Christ and our only Saviour which Teaching
inherit the Kingdom of God how can it be affirmed that the same true flesh shall be raised to enter upon that inheritance perhaps this improvement he had forgot 2. These inferences are not only defective but contrary to the true Nature of a Resurrection which denotes a taking up of that which was laid down It must hence follow sc If the same body that dies be not raised up but another kind of body it cannot be a Resurrection as above Moreover If a● the Resurrection it be not the same but another body then that body which actively and passively honoured God in this world shall not according to Divine Promise Col. 3. 4. be glorified with Christ in the World to come but another body shall be there glorified which never did or suffered any thing for God's honour and to which God never made any Promise yea that body which wickedly sinned lived and dyedin finall impenitency and unbelief Shall not according to Divine threatning Matt. 25. 41. be for ever tormented but another body shall which never sinned nor was ever threatned be eternally dammed in hell with the Devil and his Angels These inavoidable consequents are no less than high blasphemies against the Justice Truth and Righteousness of God Himself especially in that Scripture of sacred truth 2 Cor. 5. 10 We must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ that every one sc the same whole man may receive the things done in his body according to that he hath done whether good or bad And the Lord Christ assures us John 5. 28 29. The hour is coming in the which all that are in the Graves Are there any other bodies in the Graves then the same bodies which were put into them shall hear His voice And shall come forth they that have done good unto the Resurrection of Life and they that have done evil unto the Resurrection of Damnation thus in Matt. 25. 46. also Proved 3. That by Flesh and Blood in that place of Scripture above is not meant the substance of Flesh and Blood the parts of a Man's body as now it is But it is to be understood of the sinfull qualities of Man's Nature that are to be done away as in other places Rom. 7. 18 24. Chap. 8. 1 6 7. Gal 5 17 19 24. Flesh doth signifie or of naturall Flesh and Blood of which the body is now composed and made up as such it is corruptable and cannot enter into the Kingdome of Heaven and thus Paul expounds it as in the latter clause of the same 50. verse Neither doth corruption inherit incorruption That is corruptable Flesh and blood or flesh and blood that hath the Seed and Principles of Corruption shall never enter into the Kingdome of Heaven such flesh and blood is unfit to wear the Crown of Glory as our Souls must be changed before they can be fit for Glory so also must our Bodies from their natural estate to a spiritual for at the Resurrection our bodies shall not be raised natural corruptable bodies but spiritual incorruptable bodies and as such they will be fit for Glory in the Kingdome of Heaven as it s illustrated ver 52. And the Dead shall be raised incorruptable and we shall be changed but how the next verse sc 53. tells us This corruptable must put on incorruption Note This Mortal must put on immortality well then though the body of Man be now natural corruptable and mortal flesh and blood and as such unfit for the Kingdome of Heaven But in the Resurrection the body will not be so for it will then be spiritual incorruptable immortal flesh and blood and being so qualified it will be fit to inherit the Kingdome of God Having thus Answered I expected some return but they were all silent Thereupon Capt. John Hubbart Sherrif with the Iustices of Peace as Representees of the Christian part of the Assembly came forth towards me and openly declared That they were fully satisfied with my Proofs and Answers The Quakers being thus regularly found Guilty of the whole charge the vast Assembly was forthwith peaceably dismissed READER I Have been earnestly Requested by some of the Lords People in these Islands to make some Replies to three or four Erroneous Principles not Discussed in the Disputation Held and Professed by most Quakers To wit 1. That there is a state of perfect freedome from sin in this Life 2. That the matter contained in the Scriptures is not 1. The Word of God 2. Nor the infallible standing Rule of Faith and Life 3. That the Soul in Man is God in part and so Infallible 4. The denying of the Trinity sc three persons in one Deity These corrupt Principles maintained by most Teaching Quakers I have on Request as above considered and made some Replies to each particular distinctly as in their order afore expressed 1. Principle That there is a state of perfect freedome from sin in this Life Alledging that the Scriptures do testifie the same as Job 1. ver 1 8. 22 Psal 37. ver 37. 39. 1. 119. 5. Mat. 5. 48. Rom. 6. 18. 8. 4. 2. 15. Phil. 3. 15. Eph. 3. 19. Luk. 1. 6. That I might herein give some satisfaction I have considered the above-mentioned Scriptures one after another in their asserted Order The first Scripture Job 1. ver 1 8 22. There was a Man whose Name was Job and that man was perfect Reply to the 1st verse By Perfect here we are not to understand a Legal perfection such as Adams before the Fall though it be contended for by the Teaching Quakers and affirmed by them as possibly attainable yea actually attained by many of their Friends in this Life but the Spirit doth not in any one of these verses express no nor in end Iobs perfection from all sin in this life nor did Iob so understand it witness his own confessions Chap. 9. 20. If I justifie my self my own mouth shall condemn me if I say I am perfect it shall a●so prove me perverse That is to say if I justifie my self by the actings and expressions of my life my Mouth would condemn me so if I say I am perfect in the thinkings and s●cret motions of my heart it would prove me perverse Caril in locum and in Chap. 10. 6. Thou enquirest after my Iniquity and searche●t after my sin likewise in Chap. 42. 6. Wherefore I abhor my self and repent in dust and ashes but to put the word Perfect in ver 1. out of all doubt it is explained in the 8th vese above There was none like him in the Earth a perfect and an upright man which referred to that Generation in which Iob lived So we read of Noah Gen. 6. 9. That he was a just man and perfect in his Generations in like manner consider Iob in the time and age wherein he lived there was none like him in the Earth for Godliness and uprightness hence for any man to infer that either Noah or Iob were
manifested himself to Cain by his word three times Gen. 3. 8 9. and afterward that the Word of God came to Noah and so to Abraham and others Now O ye Teaching Seducing Quakers I would ask you this Question sc Could your Light within tell you ought of all this if the written Scriptures had not told it first And yet you would fain make us believe that your Light within is the true Scripture and Word of God even the everlasting Word so that this most notorious lie the whimsie called Light within is the new devised ground of your Faith and Religious Worship Oh ye poor Soul deluded and Soul-deluding ones know assuredly that this Doctrine of your beloved Idol-light in your own addle brains is directly contrary to what the Lord Christ said to his Father concerning his Apostles Joh. 17. 8. I have given them thy words word ver 14. which thou gavest me and they have received them and have known surely that I came out from thee and they have believed that thou didst send m● Note here that the words which the Father gave to Christ and Christ to his Apostles they believed and so believing Preached them to the World the Substance whereof is in their written Gospel and Epistles which is to true Christians the Word of God and the ground of their Faith but ye Soul-deceivers labour to dissolve this ground of our Christian Faith because ye would lay a Foundation of your own humane Invention sc an un bloody Light within which Idolized Light hath no more real blood in it then there is in the Transubstantiated Bread of your Popish Brethren wherein both ye and they do exactly agree in one feigned blood-less Sacrifice for sin which is evidently another Gospel which stands under the doubled Curse of God Gal. 1. 8 9. which is further confirmed Heb. 9. 22. Without shedding of Blood is no remission O read and tremble before the i●raversible decree of wrath and vengeance go forth for without shedding of blood sc true humane blood there is no remission as above and consequently the unavoidable curse of hell and damnation doth attend a non remission which leads me to the Quakers third Principle The third Principle That the Soul of Man is God in part and therefore infallible Reply This titular Principle consists of two parts which shall be dealt with distinctly 1. That the Soul of Man is God in part Thus James Nayler ●n his Book Love to the Lost page 58. teaching fulness of light or soul within in which fulness is meaning the fulness of God in part and John Tayne in his Book of ten Epistles page 71. saith the soul of man is God in part who in page 3. renders this reason for it because the Soul is no created substance and John Lilborn a la●e grand leading Quaker in his Book of six particulars page 16. he affirms That the Light in man was the Light in God himself in whom is no darkness at all referring to 1 Tim. 6. 16. Who only hath immortality dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto which no man hath seen or can see to him be honour and power everlasting Reply Although these words do most plainly exclude any meer man from possessing God in his essential nature yet in page 15. he inferrs That the Light which is the infinite essence of God is the living or quickening holy tender part of man the everlasting Word of God by whom all t●ings were made And in page 19. further saith It is the very Principle of true Religion consider now if it be so then it must be such a Principle to the Devils and all damned creatures for as creatures the everlasting word made them and their Being Life and Motion is in him bec●us● he that is Being it self is the bottom of the being of all created Natures and consequently according to John Lilbourn the Light in man which he calls the Everlasting Word by whom all things are made mu●● be the principle of true Religion in the Devils and damned O hel●ish Divinity Doctrine for even they sc the Devils damned live and move and have their dependance upon the divine nature or infinite essence of the Godhead otherwise they would all fall to nothing by an annihilation Nevertheless this is in a special manner to be noted viz. It s one thing that the infinite essence thus possesseth men devils and all things else and another thing for man or any other creature to possess the 〈◊〉 Essence of God to his happiness and blessedness for so man only possesseth God according to his revealed will but through the w●nt of a right understanding of this special difference above stated it comes to pass that this untoward Generation Dream the Light within them to be God in part and hence inferr that the Soul is God in part here and full in God hereafter for which they do pretend especially four Texts of Scripture to wit Gen ● 7. Eccles 12. 7. Act. 17. 27. 28. 2 Pet. 1. 4. Reply To the first Scripture Gen. 2. 7. And the Lord God formed Man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his Nosthrils the breath of life and Man became a living Soul hence they argue that the Soul in this life is God in part Reply 1. It is to be noted That in the former part of the verse we have the Creation of Adams body The Lord God formed Man that is he fashio●ed the outward and inward part of Adam straight and upright with all his outward limbs and lineaments in their due places without and Veins Arteries Venticles and Bowels in their due places within 2. The Creation of Mans Soul is described i. e. breathed into his nosthrils which Syn●cdochically denotes the whole Man the breath of life Go●s order herein is very observable sc after the Lord had formed his body he gives in not himself in but from himself the Soul here 's the nature of Gods act Breathed it is spoken after the manner of men for as God hath no hands to form so nor mouth to breathe so that hereby must be meant Gods powerful Creation of his Body and infusion of his Soul which God doth as easily as man breathes But to the matter in hand 1. The Divine Being is infinite and indivisible therefore the Soul of man cannot be God either in whole or in part 2. The words being spoken after the manner of men that is to say as the breath of Man is not man in whole or in part but only from him so the Soul being breathed is only from God by infusion 3. The Soul of Man was made after Gods Image Gen. 1. 26. And God said let Us make man in our sc the Father through the Son by the Spirit Image after our likeness i. e. in our Image most like to not the same with us It is an Hebraisme noting a superlative Image most like the Trinity in Vnity This image or likeness
some Instances 1. The Pope takes upon him the power of Pardoning sin making himself God and Christ which power of pardoning sin the Quaker ascribes to his Light within calling it God and Christ 2. The Pope affirms that the Teachings and Rules of direction being believed in and walked up unto will make such Believers and Walkers Perfect and bring them to j●stification and salvation all which the Quaker doth affirm of the Light within it being believed in and obeyed 3. The Pope teacheth that his written Scriptures are so far to be obeyed as they do agree with the infallible Spirit within him just so the Quakers teach that they are no further bound to obey the Letter of the Scriptures then the infallible un●rring light within makes them willing to obey 4. The Pope declares his Apocryphals to be not only of equal verity with but to exceed the Scriptures even so a Quakers Light within teacheth him to prefer his Apocryphal Quakerisms before the written Scriptures 5. The Pope testifies there is a nigher Doctrine than the Scripture hath to feed the Saints and perfect●ones meaning his Church enlightning Traditions so saith the Quakers light within that it hath a higher Doctrine then the written Scripture hath any to guid and ●eed the true Saints 6. The Pope robs Christ of all his Offices 1. Of his Kingly Office in taking part of it to himself by remitting sins and making Laws to bind Conscience both which a Quakers Light presumes to do remitting sin and binding Conscience by its laws 2. The Pope robs Christ of his Priestly Office for he doth dispose of it giving to a Masse Priest power to offer a daily propit●ation-Sacrifice yea that every Papist hath a piece of it within him that thereby every one of them may satisfie the Justice of God for his sins even by his own Merits within him and for Christs Mediatorship as some of them do abolish it so no Catholick desires the Man Jesus Christ to pray for Him because each one of them hath so much of the propitiat●ry Sacrifice dayly i● them as is meritorious to satisfie the justice of God for their sins Of which robbery in reference to Christs Priestly Office the Quakers are equally guilty for they give to their light that Masse-Priest with in a power to offer Sacrifice propitiatory dayly forsin whereby they daily in themselves satisfie Gods justice for their sins even by their own internal merits and as for Christs Mediatorship they have quite abolished it For no Quaker desires the one Mediator the Man Jesus Christ 1 Tim. 2 5. to pray for him 3. The Pope robs Christ also of his Prophetical Office for this office he assumes to himself who without the Scriptures determines infallibly by the pretened assistance of a Spirit of infallible light lockt up in his own breast all points of Faith and Life which kind of Robbery as to Crists Prophetical Office the Quakers have likewise assumed who by their Light within without the Holy Scriptures or laws of the King thence derived pretend to an infallible determination of all points concerning ●aith and Life here hence we may sa●ely infer that a Quakers Lig●t and Romes Pope are co●qual Antichrists This may further appear if the Terms and Title heretofore given to the P●p● as ●sserted 〈◊〉 the Reverend Brightman Ren. 13. page 135 136 ●e compared with those now given to the Light within by G. Fox in his Fo●o Book The great Mystery c. The Terms and Titles which were given to the Pope and imprinted by Brightman as above are these to wit 1. Hear saith Brightman what Barnard saith sc of the Pope Thou art a great Priest the Prince of Bishops thou art the Heir of the Apostles thou art Abel for thy primacy Noah for thy Government Abraham for thy Patria●●h●ship Melchisedech for thy Order Aaron for thy Dignity Moses for thy Authority Samuel for thy judgement Peter for thy Power Christ for thine anointing c. Book 2. Consid Again Mark saith Brightman how the Embassadors of the Empour of Sicily cry out to him the Pope lying groveling on the ground O thou that takest away the sins of the World have mercy upon us thou that takest away the sins of the World grant us peace As also what Simon Beginus saith speaking unto Pope Leo in the Council of Laterane Sess 6. Behold the Lion of the Tribe of Judah the ●oot of David we have waited for thee O most blessed Leo to be our Saviour Vn●o these saith B●ightma● we may joyn Cornelius the Bishop of Bipentum who laid open his blockishness in wondring at the Beast in the Council of Trent with these words The Pope is come a Light into the World and men have loved darkness more then Light every one that evil doth hateth the Light and cometh not to the Light Hence Brightman inferr● O out upon you ye Blasphemous Claw-backs is it not enough for you to adorn the Man of sin with the praises of the Saint unless ye do also heap upon him the praises which ye have robbed Christ of it would indeed render me too volumenous to set down herein all the pages lines and words imprinted in the Foxes Book above named concerning the Terms●nd ●nd Titles given by him and other such se●ucing Authors to the Light within which are either nume●ically or specifically the same with the Collections above given to the Popes or if there be any difference as to Terms and Titles of Blasphemy the F●z's are the more horrid upon the whole let any good Christian judge whether a Quakers Light within be not in go●d earnest the P●pe without And so I pass to the fourth and last Principle a●ore-named The fourth Principle to wit A Quakers denying of the Trinity or three persons in one Deity Reply It is by most judicious Christians acknowledged sc that three persons in one Deity is so great a mystery that it cannot be sound our by natural reason and no wonder for there are many things in natu●e yea in man himself Eccles 11. 5. Thou knowest not the way of the Spirit nor how the bones do grow in the Womb of hen that is with child reason cannot reach the knowledge of this Therefore saith Mr. Caril it is not to be admired if man be at a loss about the incomprehensible nature of God Howbeit it may be to all rational Saints sufficient to prove three persons in the Godhead though we cannot fully conceive how this should be For 1. There is but one God 1 Cor. 8. 4 6. 2. In this one God there are three He 's that do Vnderstand Will and Act and these three are so doistinguished that the one is not the other And 't is Dr. Gouges observation on Deut. 6. 4. Hear O Israel the Lord our God is one Lord the word Lord is twice in the Text and saith he Printed in Capital Letters purposely to notifie that the word Lord in the original is Jehovah and so he reads