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A65695 The absurdity and idolatry of host-worship proved, by shewing how it answers what is said in scripture and the writtings of the fathers, to shew the folly and idolatry committed in the worship of heathen deities : also a full answer to all those pleas by which papists would wipe off the charge of idolatry, and an appendix against transubstantiation, with some reflexions on a late popish book called The guide in controversies / by Daniel Whitby ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726. 1679 (1679) Wing W1719; ESTC R39040 107,837 157

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which_o do_v most_o palpable_o refute_v those_o very_a heresy_n which_o they_o have_v broach_v this_o be_v a_o most_o perfect_a demonstration_n against_o the_o ebionite_n photinian_o and_o all_o those_o swarm_n of_o heretic_n who_o question_v the_o deity_n of_o christ_n that_o he_o be_v worship_v with_o latria_n in_o the_o sacrament_n only_o upon_o the_o presumption_n of_o his_o deity_n and_o therefore_o if_o he_o there_o deserve_v that_o worship_n must_v be_v god_n and_o this_o be_v also_o a_o perfect_a demonstration_n against_o the_o marcionite_n docetae_n valentinian_o and_o all_o those_o heretic_n who_o hold_v that_o christ_n assume_v apparent_a but_o not_o substantial_a flesh_n that_o he_o have_v only_o the_o appearance_n of_o a_o body_n but_o no_o true_a real_a body_n and_o against_o the_o nestorian_n and_o eutychian_o who_o teach_v that_o after_o christ_n ascension_n his_o human_a nature_n be_v absorb_v and_o change_v into_o the_o divine_a against_o all_o these_o i_o say_v this_o be_v a_o perfect_a demonstration_n that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n christ_n body_n and_o his_o flesh_n be_v true_o and_o substantial_o contain_v and_o therefore_o that_o he_o have_v a_o true_a substantial_a body_n and_o that_o his_o human_a nature_n still_o remain_v at_o the_o close_a of_o the_o twelve_o century_n when_o this_o idolatry_n begin_v to_o show_v itself_o among_o the_o latin_n how_o many_o myriad_n be_v brand_v with_o the_o name_n of_o heretic_n for_o their_o stiff_a opposition_n both_o to_o this_o practice_n and_o to_o the_o doctrine_n on_o which_o it_o do_v depend_v and_o can_v it_o be_v imagine_v that_o in_o all_o former_a age_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o which_o so_o many_o heresy_n abound_v not_o any_o single_a person_n shall_v once_o have_v broach_v this_o new_a heresy_n more_o obvious_a than_o any_o of_o they_o all_o have_v the_o know_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o all_o former_a age_n administer_v the_o like_a occasion_n for_n to_o do_v 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gr._n p._n 29._o lin_v 50._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n p._n 30._o lin_v 1._o 2._o these_o father_n in_o their_o apology_n do_v very_o careful_o take_v notice_n of_o any_o thing_n deliver_v by_o they_o which_o they_o imagine_v the_o heathen_n may_v retort_v upon_o they_o when_o theodoret_n have_v confute_v the_o heathen_a polytheism_n and_o have_v confront_v to_o it_o the_o rule_n of_o moses_n and_o of_o christ_n who_o say_v he_o do_v command_v we_o to_o worship_v the_o creat_a only_o n.b._n he_o add_v that_o they_o perhaps_o may_v say_v the_o christian_n be_v not_o observer_n of_o the_o rule_n because_o they_o worship_v the_o whole_a trinity_n and_o not_o the_o unity_n exclusive_o 50._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 104._o lin_v 50._o and_o then_o he_o give_v a_o copious_a answer_n to_o that_o objection_n in_o his_o seven_o book_n have_v deride_v pagan_a deity_n
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doctrine_n neither_o be_v you_o to_o use_v your_o reason_n to_o establish_v it_o for_o why_o a_o demonstration_n against_o a_o doctrine_n shall_v not_o as_o well_o destroy_v the_o suppose_a truth_n of_o that_o doctrine_n as_o a_o daemon_n stration_n for_o it_o shall_v confirm_v its_o truth_n i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o conceive_v beside_o be_v it_o a_o contradiction_n to_o assert_v that_o christ_n almighty_a power_n may_v reproduce_v his_o body_n not_o thus_o unite_v to_o his_o soul_n and_o his_o divinity_n or_o not_o if_o it_o be_v not_o then_o may_v his_o body_n be_v thus_o extant_a in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n if_o you_o say_v it_o be_v a_o contradiction_n to_o assert_v that_o the_o same_o body_n shall_v be_v unite_v to_o the_o word_n and_o not_o unite_v i_o answer_v if_o the_o same_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n may_v be_v both_o eat_v and_o not_o eat_v eat_v by_o they_o who_o have_v receive_v the_o host_n and_o not_o eat_v by_o they_o who_o have_v not_o yet_o receive_v eat_v in_o 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celestial_a body_n 3._o as_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o lutheran_n do_v hold_v the_o consecrate_a element_n to_o be_v christ_n real_a body_n and_o blood_n and_o yet_o do_v never_o tender_v the_o worship_n of_o latria_n to_o they_o so_o may_v the_o eastern_a church_n also_o do_v nay_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o they_o do_v not_o tender_v the_o worship_n of_o latria_n to_o they_o as_o the_o papist_n do_v and_o be_v oblige_v to_o do_v by_o the_o custom_n and_o command_n of_o their_o church_n sacranus_fw-la do_v inform_v we_o of_o the_o russian_n that_o they_o do_v not_o adore_v the_o consecrate_a element_n neither_o the_o greek_n nor_o russian_n do_v perform_v any_o worship_n to_o they_o say_v the_o jesuit_n scarga_n 21._o l._n 3._o de_fw-fr sacr._n euch._n c._n 21._o the_o greek_n aster_n the_o consecration_n of_o the_o element_n exhibit_v none_o or_o very_o little_a reverence_n to_o they_o say_v arcadius_n moreover_o the_o cophti_n and_o the_o habassine_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o elevate_v the_o confecrated_a host_n nor_o afterward_o reserve_v it_o as_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n 167._o brieuw_n p._n 158_o 167._o which_o be_v a_o far_a evidence_n that_o they_o do_v not_o adore_v it_o with_o the_o worship_n of_o latria_n but_o say_v r.h._n this_o adoration_n be_v a_o necessary_a consequent_a of_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n 3._o gall_a disc_n 3._o ch_n 8._o §._o 82._o n._n 3._o to_o this_o i_o answer_v 1._o by_o deny_v that_o this_o be_v any_o necessary_a consequence_n of_o the_o belief_n of_o transubstantiation_n and_o if_o it_o be_v so_o we_o have_v hence_o reason_n to_o presume_v the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n can_v be_v ancient_a see_v this_o necessary_a consequence_n of_o it_o be_v not_o observe_v in_o the_o western_a church_n before_o the_o xi_o or_o xii_o century_n this_o adoration_n be_v not_o practise_v and_o much_o less_o enjoin_v by_o the_o church_n till_o then_o 19_o de_fw-fr cub_n lat._n l._n 7._o cap._n 44._o &_o l._n 3._o cap._n 19_o as_o mr._n dally_n have_v demonstrate_v 2._o i_o answer_v that_o nothing_o be_v more_o frequent_a than_o for_o church_n and_o person_n to_o maintain_v a_o doctrine_n and_o yet_o in_o practice_n to_o disclaim_v the_o necessary_a consequence_n of_o that_o doctrine_n i_o hope_v r._n h._n do_v urge_v against_o we_o nothing_o but_o what_o he_o think_v will_v necessary_o follow_v from_o our_o doctrine_n and_o yet_o he_o know_v we_o do_v disclaim_v his_o inference_n and_o may_v in_o due_a time_n show_v he_o we_o have_v sufficient_a reason_n so_o to_o do_v 266._o ibid._n p._n 265_o 266._o §_o iv_o and_o whereas_o r.h._n do_v endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o greek_a church_n agree_v with_o they_o in_o give_v of_o this_o adoration_n to_o the_o consecrate_a host_n from_o certain_a passage_n of_o the_o mass_n use_v among_o they_o that_o the_o disingenuity_n and_o weakness_n of_o his_o plea_n may_v be_v more_o evident_a 40._o which_o be_v all_o take_v from_o the_o author_n of_o the_o tract_n style_v perpet_n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr foy_fw-fr etc._n etc._n and_o answer_v by_o mr._n dally_n de_fw-fr cult_a lat._n c._n 3._o c._n 19_o chrysost_n to._n 6._o p._n 983._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 9.4_o ib._n l._n 29_o 30._o ib._n l._n 35_o 40._o i_o shall_v at_o large_a relate_v their_o manner_n of_o proceed_v in_o the_o performance_n of_o their_o mass_n and_o then_o return_v a_o satisfactory_a answer_n to_o what_o he_o offer_v from_o these_o passage_n for_o confirmation_n of_o his_o vain_a presumption_n first_o then_o the_o greek_n begin_v this_o mass_n with_o worship_v or_o bow_v thrice_o towards_o the_o east_n before_o the_o image_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n soon_o after_o they_o bow_v thrice_o before_o the_o table_n on_o which_o the_o sacred_a gift_n that_o be_v the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v place_v though_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o lay_v upon_o the_o altar_n to_o be_v consecrate_a then_o the_o priest_n say_v o_o god_n be_v propitious_a to_o i_o a_o sumer_n and_o have_v mercy_n on_o i_o and_o again_o o_o our_o saviour_n thou_o be_v nail_v to_o the_o cross_n and_o pierce_v with_o a_o spear_n have_v redeem_v we_o from_o the_o curse_n of_o the_o law_n and_o open_v the_o fountain_n of_o eternal_a life_n glory_n be_v give_v to_o thou_o then_o take_v the_o oblation_n i.e._n the_o bread_n which_o have_v the_o figure_n of_o a_o gross_a impress_v upon_o it_o call_v sigillum_fw-la into_o his_o left_a hand_n and_o the_o spear_n into_o his_o right_a hand_n he_o fasten_v the_o lance_n into_o the_o right_a side_n of_o the_o cross_n upon_o the_o bread_n 41._o ib._n l._n 39_o ib._n l._n 41._o and_o say_v he_o be_v bring_v as_o a_o sheep_n to_o the_o slaughter_n then_o fasten_v it_o in_o the_o left_a side_n he_o add_v that_o as_o a_o innocent_a lamb_n which_o be_v dumb_a before_o the_o shearer_n 43._o l._n 43._o he_o open_v not_o his_o mouth_n then_o fasten_v it_o in_o the_o upper_a part_n of_o the_o cross_n he_o add_v 1._o p._n 985_o l._n 1._o in_o his_o humiliation_n his_o judgement_n be_v take_v away_o then_o he_o fasten_v it_o in_o the_o low_a part_n and_o add_v who_o can_v declare_v his_o generation_n 8._o l._n 8._o his_o life_n be_v take_v away_o or_o lift_v up_o from_o the_o earth_n then_o the_o deacon_n say_v sacrifice_v sir_n 10._o l._n 10._o and_o the_o priest_n sacrisice_v he_o n._n b._n say_v 13._o l._n 13._o the_o lamb_n of_o god_n which_o take_v away_o the_o sm_n of_o the_o world_n be_v facrifiee_v for_o the_o life_n and_o salvation_n of_o the_o world_n then_o the_o deacon_n say_v pierce_v he_o sir_n 14._o l._n 14._o and_o the_o priest_n pierce_v he_o with_o the_o spear_n say_v one_o of_o the_o soldier_n
bless_a be_v he_o that_o come_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n for_o this_o be_v also_o say_v before_o the_o consecration_n by_o the_o priest_n 997._o m._n chrysost_o p._n 994._o ib._n p._n 997._o and_o deacon_n at_o the_o completion_n of_o the_o great_a ingress_n of_o the_o hallow_a gift_n and_o by_o the_o people_n before_o the_o consecration_n nor_o 6._o from_o the_o priest_n say_v when_o he_o elevate_v the_o consecrate_a bread_n holy_a thing_n to_o holy_a person_n to_o which_o the_o choir_n answer_v there_o be_v one_o holy_a one_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n for_o though_o r._n h._n conceive_v this_o be_v so_o speak_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o elevate_v host_n and_o be_v a_o confession_n that_o the_o host_n be_v that_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n they_o speak_v of_o yet_o symeon_n thessalonicensis_n will_v inform_v he_o 228._o apud_fw-la goar_n p._n 228._o that_o it_o be_v only_o a_o unanimous_a confession_n of_o the_o incarnation_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n who_o reign_v over_o all_o and_o that_o it_o be_v as_o if_o they_o shall_v have_v say_v who_o of_o we_o be_v pure_a who_o holy_a there_o be_v one_o only_o holy_a jesus_n christ_n who_o love_o do_v sanctify_v we_o nor_o 7._o from_o what_o the_o priest_n say_v when_o he_o break_v the_o consecrate_a bread_n into_o four_o piece_n 163._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n miss_n p._n 1001._o gore_n in_o not_o m._n chrysost_o p._n 163._o viz._n the_o lamb_n of_o god_n be_v break_v and_o divide_v into_o part_n the_o son_n of_o the_o father_n who_o be_v break_v and_o not_o divide_v eat_v and_o not_o consume_v but_o sanctifi_v those_o that_o partake_v of_o he_o for_o the_o consecrate_a bread_n be_v break_v in_o memory_n and_o imitation_n of_o christ_n passion_n it_o be_v break_v the_o lamb_n of_o god_n and_o the_o son_n of_o god_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v break_v it_o be_v distribute_v and_o eat_v the_o lamb_n of_o god_n may_v well_o be_v say_v to_o be_v so_o as_o also_o to_o be_v cut_v into_o four_o part_n though_o i_o suppose_v r._n h._n will_v not_o allow_v such_o a_o dissection_n of_o the_o true_a natural_a body_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o not_o only_o of_o the_o consecrate_a bread_n they_o say_v break_v he_o sir_n etc._n etc._n but_o of_o the_o unconsecrated_a bread_n pierce_v he_o sir_n 985._o miss_n chrysost_n p._n 985._o sacrifice_v he_o sir_n and_o when_o the_o priest_n have_v pierce_v the_o gift_n he_o say_v one_o of_o the_o soldier_n pierce_v his_o side_n when_o he_o sacrifice_v they_o he_o say_v the_o lamb_n of_o god_n which_o take_v away_o the_o sm_n of_o the_o world_n be_v sacrifice_v will_v therefore_o r._n h._n hence_o infer_v that_o they_o believe_v the_o vnconsecrated_a bread_n and_o wine_n to_o be_v natural_o and_o proper_o the_o lamb_n of_o god_n and_o true_o sacrifice_v if_o not_o he_o can_v make_v the_o like_a inference_n from_o the_o like_a word_n use_v after_o consecration_n nor_o 8._o be_v this_o prove_v from_o that_o confession_n and_o prayer_n which_o the_o priest_n make_v when_o he_o prepare_v himself_o for_o the_o reception_n of_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n viz._n i_o believe_v lord_n and_o confess_v that_o thou_o be_v christ_n the_o son_n of_o the_o live_a god_n and_o again_o lord_n i_o be_o not_o worthy_a that_o thou_o shall_v come_v under_o my_o sordid_a roof_n for_o 1._o the_o priest_n indeed_o confess_v that_o jesus_n be_v the_o christ_n the_o son_n of_o the_o live_a god_n 16._o matth._n xuj_o 16._o in_o the_o word_n of_o st._n peter_n but_o not_o that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v so_o he_o now_o make_v that_o confession_n for_o himself_o which_o a_o little_a before_o the_o people_n have_v make_v for_o themselves_o which_o be_v to_o do_v what_o every_o tongue_n at_o the_o last_o day_n shall_v confess_v say_v thess_n alonicensis_fw-la 228._o apud_fw-la goar_n p._n 228._o viz._n that_o jesus_n be_v the_o christ_n to_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n the_o father_n 2._o the_o prayer_n which_o follow_v this_o confession_n be_v that_o this_o jesus_n will_v make_v he_o partaker_n of_o his_o precious_a body_n and_o blood_n wherefore_o the_o priest_n do_v not_o direct_v his_o prayer_n to_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n 173._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d min._n bas_n apud_fw-la goar_n p._n 173._o but_o only_o to_o christ_n for_o they_o 3._o the_o priest_n solicit_v christ_n to_o enter_v not_o only_o into_o his_o body_n but_o his_o soul_n into_o which_o christ_n body_n can_v enter_v that_o he_o will_v unite_v they_o to_o the_o holy_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n that_o worthy_o receive_v the_o holy_a mystery_n they_o may_v have_v christ_n dwell_v in_o their_o heart_n and_o be_v make_v the_o temple_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n not_o sure_o christ_n as_o to_o his_o body_n but_o his_o word_n and_o spirit_n and_o so_o they_o do_v themselves_o expound_v themselves_o pray_v that_o they_o partake_v of_o the_o sanctify_a thing_n and_o be_v enliven_v by_o they_o may_v be_v unite_v to_o christ_n their_o true_a god_n who_o say_v 198._o miss_n mist_n ante_fw-la consecrat_fw-mi apud_fw-la goar_n p._n 197_o 198._o he_o that_o eat_v my_o flesh_n and_o drink_v my_o blood_n dwell_v in_o i_o and_o i_o in_o he_o that_o his_o word_n dwell_v and_o walk_v in_o they_o they_o way_n be_v make_v the_o temple_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n nor_o last_o will_v this_o follow_v from_o the_o deacon_n say_v when_o he_o be_v call_v to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n behold_v i_o come_v to_o the_o immortal_a king_n for_o 1._o he_o do_v not_o say_v the_o sacrament_n be_v that_o immortal_a king_n but_o only_o that_o christ_n present_a or_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o they_o assemble_v be_v so_o christ_n be_v therefore_o invisible_o present_a as_o they_o assure_v we_o and_o he_o himself_o have_v promise_v in_o all_o his_o ordinance_n and_o more_o especial_o in_o this_o by_o which_o he_o spiritual_o dwell_v in_o and_o be_v unite_v to_o the_o due_a communicant_a well_o may_v be_v say_v when_o he_o receive_v those_o element_n with_o which_o such_o blessing_n be_v convey_v behold_v i_o come_v to_o the_o immortal_a king_n 110._o gore_n in_o miss_n chrys_n n._n 110._o 2._o it_o be_v their_o custom_n in_o their_o liturgy_n to_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o represent_v any_o thing_n as_o if_o it_o be_v the_o thing_n itself_o ibid._n gore_n in_o miss_n chrys_n n._n 74._o sym._n thess_n ib._n p._n 222._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d goar_n p._n 478.510_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n they_o speak_v of_o the_o holy_a bible_n as_o if_o it_o be_v christ_n himself_o when_o it_o be_v carry_v by_o the_o priest_n they_o say_v come_v let_v we_o worship_n christ_n when_o the_o priest_n enter_v with_o it_o into_o the_o chancel_n they_o add_v lift_v up_o the_o gate_n viz._n that_o the_o king_n of_o glory_n may_v come_v in_o because_o this_o gospel_n bear_v some_o representation_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n thus_o also_o in_o the_o office_n of_o the_o little_a habit_n and_o the_o angelic_a habit_n the_o superior_a tell_v the_o monk_n when_o he_o stretch_v forth_o his_o hand_n unto_o the_o gospel_n behold_v christ_n be_v invisible_o present_a here_o when_o the_o monk_n take_v the_o sizzer_n out_o of_o the_o gospel_n thou_o take_v they_o say_v he_o from_o the_o hand_n of_o christ_n and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o sacrament_n be_v style_v the_o immortal_a king_n by_o the_o same_o metaphor_n by_o which_o the_o gospel_n be_v here_o style_v christ_n 11._o v._o dallaeum_n the_o cult_a lat_fw-la l._n 7._o cap._n 11._o without_o intend_v to_o perform_v any_o high_a worship_n to_o it_o than_o what_o they_o pay_v unto_o the_o gospel_n what_o r._n h._n further_o urge_v from_o cabasilas_n be_v only_o from_o a_o false_a translation_n and_o so_o deserve_v no_o consideration_n to_o conclude_v eucharistiam_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la debito_fw-la cultu_fw-la tractet_fw-la religiose_fw-la colat_fw-la humiliter_fw-la adorent_fw-la genuflexus_fw-la adorat_fw-la rit_fw-fr p._n 63_o 64._o missal_n saepius_fw-la vide_fw-la ibid._n rythmum_fw-la s._n thomae_fw-la ad_fw-la s._n eucharistiam_fw-la there_o be_v two_o signal_n difference_n betwixt_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o host_n prescribe_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o that_o which_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o greek_a that_o whereas_o in_o the_o mass_n and_o ritual_a of_o the_o roman_a church_n we_o find_v frequent_a injunction_n religious_o to_o worship_n and_o humble_o to_o adore_v the_o very_a sacrament_n and_o frequent_a intimation_n of_o worship_n due_a unto_o it_o whereas_o they_o pray_v unto_o the_o sacrament_n and_o frequent_o acknowledge_v it_o to_o be_v their_o god_n there_o be_v not_o any_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n to_o be_v find_v in_o any_o of_o the_o eastern_a liturgy_n 2._o whereas_o the_o roman_a host_n be_v by_o they_o worship_v as_o god_n not_o only_o during_o the_o celebration_n of_o
l._n 6._o c._n 3._o 24._o contr._n don._n l._n 3._o c._n 18._o orig._n in_o matt._n hom._n 1._o not_o as_o visible_a for_o as_o the_o father_n say_v it_o concern_v those_o only_o which_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o rock_n and_o such_o be_v only_o they_o who_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n and_o do_v they_o now_o as_o in_o the_o defection_n of_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n to_o idol_n worship_n 7000_o soul_n remain_v who_o have_v not_o bow_v the_o knee_n to_o baal_n so_o may_v it_o be_v in_o the_o defection_n of_o the_o church_n visible_a into_o the_o like_a sin_n §_o two_o ob._n 4_o but_o say_v r._n h._n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n 75._o disc_n p._n 75._o we_o say_v in_o our_o creed_n i_o believe_v one_o holy_a catholic_n church_n but_o how_o be_v it_o holy_a if_o it_o may_v fall_v into_o and_o teach_v so_o gross_a and_o so_o manifold_a idolatry_n answ_n even_o as_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n and_o judah_n be_v holy_a notwithstanding_o their_o idolatry_n and_o wickedness_n and_o the_o city_n of_o jerusalem_n be_v holy_a notwithstanding_o the_o wickedness_n of_o the_o people_n that_o live_v in_o it_o the_o church_n be_v therefore_o always_o holy_a 343._o expos_fw-la on_o the_o creed_n p._n 343._o say_v the_o reverend_n and_o learned_a bishop_n pearson_n 1._o in_o reference_n to_o the_o vocation_n by_o which_o all_o the_o member_n of_o it_o be_v call_v and_o separate_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n to_o god_n which_o separation_n in_o the_o language_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v a_o sanctification_n and_o so_o the_o calling_n be_v holy_a 9_o 2_o tim._n i_o 9_o for_o god_n have_v call_v as_o with_o a_o holy_a call_n the_o body_n which_o be_v separate_v by_o it_o may_v well_o be_v call_v holy_a 2._o in_o relation_n to_o the_o office_n appoin_v and_o the_o power_n exercise_v in_o the_o church_n which_o by_o their_o institution_n and_o operation_n be_v holy_a and_o so_o that_o church_n for_o which_o they_o be_v appoint_v and_o in_o which_o they_o be_v exercise_v may_v be_v call_v holy_a 3._o because_o whosoever_o be_v call_v to_o profess_v faith_n in_o christ_n be_v thereby_o engage_v to_o holiness_n of_o life_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n let_v every_o man_n that_o name_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n depart_v from_o iniquity_n 4._o the_o church_n be_v style_v holy_a because_o the_o end_n of_o constitute_v a_o church_n in_o god_n be_v for_o the_o purchase_n a_o holy_a people_n and_o the_o great_a design_n of_o it_o be_v for_o the_o beget_n and_o increase_v holiness_n that_o as_o god_n be_v original_o holy_a in_o himself_o so_o he_o may_v communicate_v his_o sanctity_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n who_o he_o intend_v to_o bring_v to_o the_o fruition_n of_o himself_o to_o which_o without_o a_o previous_a sanctification_n they_o can_v approach_v because_o without_o holiness_n no_o man_n shall_v see_v the_o lord_n but_o as_o for_o real_a inward_a holiness_n either_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o constitute_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n or_o it_o be_v not_o if_o it_o be_v not_o then_o can_v it_o not_o be_v necessary_a to_o constitute_v any_o part_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n visible_a and_o consequent_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o constitute_v the_o whole_a and_o so_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o believe_v that_o the_o catholic_n visible_a church_n be_v thus_o holy_a if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o this_o inward_a holiness_n be_v necessary_a to_o make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n then_o be_v none_o to_o be_v reckon_v or_o approve_v of_o as_o member_n of_o the_o church_n visible_a who_o be_v not_o inward_o holy_a nor_o be_v a_o wicked_a bishop_n or_o church-governor_n to_o be_v obey_v because_o such_o be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v without_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o have_v no_o right_a to_o govern_v these_o within_o 2._o see_v i_o can_v have_v no_o assurance_n that_o any_o member_n of_o a_o council_n be_v inward_o sanctify_v it_o follow_v that_o i_o can_v have_v no_o assurance_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o their_o definition_n because_o i_o can_v have_v no_o assurance_n that_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n to_o which_o the_o promise_n of_o divine_a assistance_n be_v confine_v 115._o disc_n 3._o ch_n 10._o §._o 115._o unless_o perhaps_o r._n h._n will_v say_v that_o the_o acceptation_n of_o their_o definition_n be_v a_o evidence_n of_o the_o sanctification_n of_o the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o council_n which_o he_o may_v say_v with_o as_o much_o reason_n as_o that_o it_o be_v a_o evidence_n that_o they_o be_v true_o ordain_v and_o baptise_a ob._n 5_o §_o iii_o moreover_o it_o be_v object_v that_o protestant_n confess_v that_o papist_n may_v be_v save_v from_o which_o confession_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o they_o be_v not_o idolater_n because_o the_o scripture_n frequent_o declare_v that_o no_o idolater_n can_v be_v save_v 75._o p._n 75._o idolatry_n say_v r._n h._n be_v a_o error_n which_o exclude_v from_o salvation_n for_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o mortal_a sin_n and_o so_o unacknowledged_a and_o unrepented_a of_o it_o must_v not_o only_o hazard_v but_o destroy_v salvation_n answ_n to_o this_o objection_n we_o answer_v 1._o by_o retortion_n thus_o it_o be_v confess_v by_o papist_n that_o proestant_o may_v be_v save_v from_o which_o confession_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o they_o be_v not_o guilty_a either_o of_o heresy_n or_o schism_n because_o the_o scripture_n have_v declare_v concern_v these_o offence_n 21._o gal._n v._n 21._o that_o they_o who_o do_v such_o thing_n shall_v not_o inherit_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n that_o protestant_n may_v be_v save_v be_v confess_v implicit_o and_o consequential_o 1._o by_o those_o who_o do_v assert_v that_o even_o a_o heretic_n 15._o vide_fw-la st._n clar._n problem_n 15._o whilst_o he_o conceive_v his_o own_o sect_n more_o credible_a be_v not_o oblige_v to_o believe_v because_o the_o faith_n be_v not_o sufficient_o propound_v to_o he_o 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