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A87881	The observator observed, or, Animadversions upon observations on the history of King Charles wherein that history is vindicated, partly illustrated, and severall other things tending to the rectification of some publique mistakes, are inserted : to which is added, at the latter end, the observators rejoinder.	L'Estrange, Hamon, 1605-1660.	1656 (1656)	Wing L1188A; ESTC R179464	41,478	51

the Commons upon that very account True said he I believe it but something must be done to please the Queen Page 172. Fol. Ibid. He tampered indeed to introduce some ceremonies bordering upon Superstition disused by us and abused by them from whence the Romanists collected such a disposition in him to their Tenets as they began to cry him up for their proselyte Observator In this Passage many things are to be considered First these Ceremonies are not here said to be superstitious but only to border upon superstition Secondly they are said to be dis-used which shews they were still in force Thirdly that these ceremonies had been abused by them of the Church of Rome and therefore might lawfully be restored for abusus non tollit usum Answer The first is confest The second is really a very dumb shew the word disused doth not at all imply that those ceremonies were in force but only that the Reformers of our Church observing how much they had been abused by the Church of Rome thought fit not to retain but lay aside the use of them Thirdly things abused may be lawfully restored to their Primitive use but then it must be by lawful Authority and in a lawful manner And the lawfulnesse of their restauration doth not import an expediency the Apostle putting such a difference between these two Page 176. Fol. 184. This Archbishops Predecessor penultine and last but one Observator He was not Dr. Whitgift but Dr. Bancroft Answer Confest as I said before a lapse of memory Ibid. Fol. Ibid. That is as a witty Gentleman said well a new Synod made of an old Convocation Observator This witty Gentleman here meant was Sr. Edward Deering Answer Here the Observator is wofully out for the witty Gentleman here meant was not Sr. Edward Deering no such words to be found in al his speeches but it was the Lord Digby his speech Nov. 12. 1640. and consequently this learned descant upon Sr. Edward is out of doores Page 179. Fol. Ibid. By a new Commission from the King No such matter verily the new Commission which he speaks of gave them no such power The writ by which they were first called and made to be a Convocation gave them power to sit and by that writ they were to sit as a Convocation til by another writ proceeding from the same Authority they were dissolved Answer I shall here deliver the true state of this businesse and then submit to the judgement of standers by Feb. the 20th 1639. the Convocation writs went forth to the several Archbishops of Canterbury and York for the Election of Clerks to the Convocation in which writs though there were these words ad tractandum consentiendum concludendum c. Yet could not the Convocation Treat consent or conclude any thing without a special Commission enabling them thereto This Commission therefore was issued out April the 15. two dayes after the Parliament sate and impowred the Houses of Convocation to alter amend and change the old Canons and to make new during the Parliament So that the Parliament being dissolved May the 5. by consequence this Commission expired by the Observators own concession but though the Commission was nulled it was a question still whither the Convocation was so also In the ensuing Parliament it was agreed that it was and if it was not yet was it beheld to have so little life in it as the King thought fit to re-animate it with a new Commission bearing date May 12 Authorizing it to make Canons c. And to continue during his Majesties pleasure Notwithstanding this Commission the Observator tells us That the King for satisfation of some scrupulous members of the lower house propounded the Question to some eminent Lawyers who resolved under their hands That the Convocation being called by the Kings writ was to continue until it were dissolved by the Kings writ notwithstanding the dissolution of the Parliament All which is very true but not all the truth for the light-fingerd Observator hath pocketed up the break-neck of the businesse suppressing what those Lawyers sent along with their opinions viz. that notwithstanding them they would advise the Convocation in making of Canons to be very sparing as I am enformed by a member of that Convocation and one no matter who as knowing and credible a person as that assembly had any Page 182. Fol. Ibid. Bishops and Presbyters in Scripture-Phrase being of equivalent import and denoting the self same persons without the least distinction Observator When our Author playes the Historian in relating of such things as are built upon good intelligence he doth it very well few better but when he comes to shew his opinion in matters of controversie he doth it very ill none worse For first I do not believe our Author can easily prove Bishops and Presbyters to be of equivalent import Answer Out upon this Observator who is so grosly out in both for really there are many better Historians then my self and some worse disputants the Observator for one but a very much worse Observator I am certain for had he not been an ill-looking-fellow he might with half an eye have discerned that I do not at all deliver mine own opinion in this particular but what many did then assert those are the very words and that many did so assert is without all dispute but since the Observator will needs have it to be mine own judgement it shall be so for once and he have his saying And what I pray doth he oppose against it but first want of Logick to inferre an identity or samenesse in the thing from a Community of names and proves it by St. Peter who calls our Saviour Christ 1 Pet. 2. 25. the Bishop of our souls and himself 1 Pet. verse 1. a Presbyter or Preist as most unhandsomely our English reads it an Elder concluding from thence that it were sorry Logick to make Christ every ordinary Bishop and the Prince of the Apostles and a simple Presbyter all one I shall first take leave to observe his Parenthesis before I passe further Herein he hath a fling at our Translators for rendring the word Presbyter Elder where 's the unhandsomenesse of it All Latine Expositors and Greek Lexicons translate {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} senior and I believe it will puzzle the Observator to find any one who ever interpreted senior by Priest and why I would gladly know is it more unhandsome in our Translators then it was in Dr. Heilen from whom the Observator differs vastly in this particular who tells us that the ancient Fathers called the Minister of the Sacrament of the Altar sometimes Presbyter Elder and sometimes Sacerdos Priest a thing so universally received amongst us as you shall very rarely finde the word Presbyter turned into Priest and never Sacerdos into Elder now it being so rare to finde Presbyter otherwise rendred then by Elder a vulgar translation should be