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A74947 Rayling rebuked: or, A defence of the ministers of this nation: by way of answer to the unparrallel'd calumnies cast upon them in an epistle lately published by Thomas Speed merchant of Bristol, unhappily become the Quakers advocate. Wherein, some Scriptures are opened, and diverse things objected by the Quakers, examined and answered. With an hortatory epistle prefixed to fasten Christians to Jesus Christ in these un-glewing times, wherein so many play fast and loose with him. By William Thomas minister of the Gospel at Ubley. Thomas, William, 1593-1667. 1656 (1656) Thomason E883_5; ESTC R207300 68,071 90

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in his concession to Nicodemus that he was a Master in Israel or the spirit of God in Luke when he calls Gamaliel a Doctor of the law Act. 5. 34. And some women honourable women chap. 17. 12. or Paul when he sayes most noble Festus chap. 26. 25. This quandam Teacher of others might have learn'd himself by this time that though it be a great fault to respect men impiously so as toderogate from God or to respect men partially with the contempt of poore christians wherefore James speakes chap. 2 1 2. yet it is no fault to give men Titles of distinction as to call some noble-men others Knights others Gentlemen so some Divines other lawyers or to give them those titles of respect dignity that belong to them in their places but a duty rather for we must give honour unto them to whom honour belongs Rom. 12. 7. T. S. Lastly they doe avouch it to be proper as in Hebrew Greek and Latine so in English to say Thou and Thee to any single person concluding see what is to be illiterate that because Adam Abraham Moses we our selves do say thou thee to the great God that made the world therefore the same expressions may be used to mortal men and though we doe esteeme the impropriety proper for great men and rich men to say thou and thee to a poore man and a meane man yet we cannot but condemne the same though proper for a poore man or a meane man to say thou and thee to a great man and a rich man W. T. A. 1. It is not proper nor possible to say thee or thou to any man in Hebrew Greek or Latine for neither Hebrew Greek nor Latine have any such words 2. It 's true that the Hebrew Greek and Latine pronounes are translated thou in our English tongue when a single person is spoken too Nor is there any irreverence in speaking so in our prayers to the great God because in our English translation of Scripture Scripture-prayers are so expressed and the use of all the people of God in England hath so far obtain'd that there is no abatement of the honour of God in it But on the other side such is and hath been the constant manner of speaking in this Nation that it is thereby become offensive to say thou and thee to our superiours and when such offence may be avoided by another way of speaking which according to the usage of our English Tongue is as proper as that the offence ought to be avoided for Scripture saith Give no offence 1 Cor. 10. 32. To wit if it may lawfull fairely and especially easily be prevented the old rules is to speak as people commonly and ordinarily speake Now custome hath made it to be the civility of our language to testifie our respect by saying you and disrespect by saying thou to any superiour or equal unlesse it be in a way of familiarity 3. It 's true also that when a child learn his Accidence he must say Ego I Ille Hee Tu Thou But must he therefore goe to his Father and say O Thou Father give me this or that What a strange thing is this to make rudeness a matter of religion as if a man could not be holy unlesse he be humorous nor a perfect Christian as perfection is attainable unlesse he be a perfect Clowne T. S. These are the horrid Blasphemyes and damnable Doctrines against the Abettors of which you doe at this day discharge so much passion and rage both from Presse and pulpit calling to the civill Powers for Bonds and Prisons nay fire and faggot against all those who fearing the Lord doe feare to call darknes light and light darknes But stop a little and consider what you are doing whilst you are upon the full carrere posting to Damascus upon Sauls bloody errand Will you not out of your owne mouthes be condemned before him that cannot erre in judgment Doe you fulfill or violate that Royall Law of Christ written in your hearts to do unto other as you would they should doe unto you are not you as notable hereticks in the esteeme of those whose blood you thirst after as they are in yours and would you esteeme it just that were the power in their hands they should mete the same measure unto you W. T. A. This studious Accuser of those Elders against whom no accusation is to be received but before 2. or 3 witnesses 1 Tim. 5. 19. Thinks its like he hath acquainted himselfe and clear'd his company very well in the forenamed list of 15. as he scoffingly calls them Blasphemies which are for the most part truly and in good earnest such in the Apostles sense 1 Pet. 4. 4. And yet he is not quiet but proceeds to blaspheme further and to condemne the publique Teachers of this Nation not of any petty crime but as posting on Saul's bloody errand and thirsting after blood What he sayes is very high but how vaine is his Religion who bridles his tongue no better then to fasten upon us those horrid things which being applyed to all the publique teachers in this Nation to all whom he writes are just as true as the like accusation of Shimei was when it was applied to David 2 Sam 16. 7 8. But let him and his complices consider whether their owne mouthes which are so full of the cursings of ministers their bawling Bookes that are so full of swords doe not sufficiently signifie that it is farre more probable that they will shedd our blood if God should once give them power then true that we desire theirs Our desire and prayer is that God would open their eyes to see the errour of their way and turne them from their by paths that they may not perish in them wherein we believe we shall prevaile for those among them that belong to God T. S. If you shall despise it as mine yet accept of it as the counsell of Gamaliel that sober Pharises take heed to your selves what you intend to doe as touching the innocent whom you now so fiercely pursue lest haply you be found even to fight against God c. And now what is in all the world that I who am become your enemy because I tell you the truth do wish unto you Teachers Even this that the gracious God would grant you to witnesse the same change that Saul did that the same hand of love that struck him to the earth would likewise bring you down from all your high thoughts and lofty imaginations to stoop to the teachings of that Jesus whom you now persecute that you may come to witnesse all the wisdome of this world to be foolishnesse with God and may be content to become fooles that you may be wise That you may cry out from the same root of life with the same Saul Lord what wouldst thou have us to do That you may not in words only but in truth come to witnesse all