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6._o say_v ibid._n q._n 1._o c._n 6._o that_o assembly_n can_v not_o be_v great_a because_o they_o be_v compass_v about_o with_o the_o priest_n and_o pharisee_n and_o therefore_o also_o in_o the_o practice_n of_o these_o church_n there_o be_v a_o certain_a number_n determine_v of_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v send_v unto_o synod_n as_o appear_v likewise_o in_o 3._o in_o act._n synod_n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 4._o art_n 3._o those_o law_n before_o mention_v if_o mr_n can_n will_v allow_v any_o limitation_n of_o number_n and_o can_v therein_o satisfy_v himself_o that_o he_o do_v not_o deprive_v the_o people_n &_o church_n of_o their_o right_n he_o may_v thereby_o also_o satisfy_v himself_o for_o any_o thing_n that_o he_o object_v unto_o we_o in_o this_o behalf_n iv_o we_o do_v further_o grant_v this_o liberty_n even_o unto_o such_o as_o be_v no_o delegate_n or_o deputy_n of_o the_o church_n that_o though_o they_o be_v not_o allow_v for_o judge_n yet_o many_o of_o they_o 9_o they_o inn._n 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arrival_n to_o jerusalem_n first_o assemble_v the_o elder_n to_o debate_n of_o the_o matter_n or_o ever_o he_o be_v present_v before_o the_o church_n act._n 21.18_o 19_o second_o if_o the_o people_n shall_v bewray_v a_o wilful_a stubborness_n against_o the_o truth_n not_o suspect_v by_o they_o yet_o the_o governor_n be_v sound_n without_o who_o there_o can_v nothing_o be_v conclude_v there_o shall_v not_o follow_v any_o prejudice_n of_o the_o counsel_n authority_n against_o the_o truth_n albeit_o the_o number_n of_o the_o people_n assemble_v be_v great_a than_o of_o those_o bishop_n and_o elder_n hereupon_o it_o come_v that_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n be_v after_o call_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o elder_n leave_v out_o the_o brethren_n which_o luke_n have_v first_o set_v down_o and_o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n in_o the_o decision_n of_o doubtful_a matter_n moses_n deut._n 17._o command_v that_o they_o shall_v have_v recourse_n unto_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o 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from_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o government_n to_o do_v nothing_o by_o his_o own_o judgement_n private_o 10._o private_o cyprian_a l._n 3._o ep_v 10._o without_o their_o counsel_n and_o without_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n bucerus_n explain_v his_o speech_n distinct_o on_o this_o manner_n 145._o manner_n dissent_n de_fw-fr gub._n eccles_n p._n 145._o behold_v first_o he_o mention_n the_o counsel_n which_o be_v to_o be_v borrow_v from_o the_o presbytery_n and_o then_o the_o consent_n whereby_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o presbytery_n be_v public_o approve_v of_o the_o people_n and_o this_o he_o apply_v also_o to_o the_o order_n of_o that_o judgement_n describe_v 1._o cor._n 5._o but_o concern_v the_o judgement_n of_o cyprian_a we_o have_v occasion_n to_o speak_v more_o hereafter_o i._o can._n v._o howsoever_o the_o church_n at_o antioch_n send_v some_o brethren_n with_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n unto_o the_o church_n at_o jerusalem_n notwithstanding_o and_o let_v it_o be_v well_o observe_v they_o do_v not_o this_o as_o be_v a_o dependent_a body_n and_o stand_v under_o another_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o for_o as_o mr_n parker_n 314._o parker_n poli._n eccl_n l._n 3._o c._n 20._o p._n 301._o &_o 314._o excellent_o prove_v it_o the_o church_n at_o antioch_n at_o this_o time_n have_v absolute_a power_n in_o and_o for_o herself_o to_o have_v end_v the_o controversy_n and_o may_v have_v do_v it_o i_o say_v in_o respect_n of_o authority_n without_o acquaint_v therewith_o any_o other_o congregation_n at_o all_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n another_o say_v 1._o say_v d._n whit._n conc._n qu._n 1._o c._n 1._o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n send_v not_o to_o jerusalem_n as_o be_v bind_v in_o duty_n thereto_o but_o in_o regard_n it_o be_v the_o chief_a place_n of_o religion_n therefore_o they_o make_v choice_n free_o of_o that_o congregation_n as_o know_v they_o to_o be_v best_o
ibid._n p._n 242_o with_o p._n 282._o set_v this_o down_o for_o a_o common_a law_n unto_o they_o all_o that_o they_o be_v subject_a in_o all_o those_o thing_n aforesaid_a and_o further_o the_o same_o according_a to_o their_o power_n with_o their_o gift_n labour_n and_o whatsoever_o way_n they_o be_v able_a hebr._n 13.17_o this_o peculiar_a bond_n of_o special_a obedience_n and_o submission_n unto_o such_o officer_n even_o in_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o in_o other_o ordinance_n be_v a_o argument_n that_o he_o think_v they_o to_o have_v special_a authority_n more_o than_o of_o admonition_n &_o counsel_n the_o judgement_n of_o mr_n fenner_n this_o worthy_a writer_n be_v thus_o clear_v and_o vindicate_v from_o those_o unfaithful_a omission_n mistranslation_n and_o miscollection_n of_o mr_n d._n his_o demand_n be_v hereby_o answer_v and_o hereby_o he_o may_v see_v why_o i_o refer_v he_o to_o this_o book_n as_o for_o those_o matter_n of_o fact_n which_o he_o add_v the_o untrueth_n thereof_o be_v elsewhere_o to_o be_v declare_v we_o will_v now_o proceed_v to_o mr_n dau._n his_o three_o allegation_n sect_n iii_o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n parker_n examine_v io._n dav_n 241._o dav_n apol._n reply_n p._n 240_o 241._o for_o mr_n parker_n he_o large_o and_o strong_o prove_v this_o position_n 1_o position_n de_fw-fr polit._n eccl._n l._n 3._o c._n 1_o potestas_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la essentialiter_fw-la &_o primariò_fw-la in_o ipsâ_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la tanquam_fw-la in_o subjecto_fw-la proprio_fw-la residet_fw-la the_o power_n ecclesiastical_a do_v essential_o and_o primary_o reside_v in_o the_o church_n itself_o as_o in_o its_o proper_a subject_n the_o sense_n wherein_o he_o thus_o speak_v to_o prevent_v all_o suspicion_n of_o his_o plead_n for_o popular_a confusion_n he_o declare_v out_o of_o zanchy_a who_o say_v toti_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dedisse_fw-la christum_fw-la clave_n 3._o zanch._n in_o precept_n 4._o qu._n 3._o sed_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la certi_fw-la essent_fw-la qui_fw-la clavibus_fw-la utantur_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la honoremque_fw-la dei_fw-la that_o christ_n give_v the_o key_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o so_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v certain_a man_n that_o shall_v use_v the_o key_n to_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n and_o glory_n of_o god_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o former_a that_o the_o right_n of_o power_n be_v in_o every_o particular_a church_n he_o use_v five_o argument_n in_o the_o 6._o &_o 7._o chapter_n and_o then_o in_o the_o 8._o chapter_n he_o come_v to_o speak_v of_o the_o exercise_n and_o ordinary_a execution_n of_o this_o power_n which_o be_v he_o say_v in_o the_o church-officer_n or_o ruler_n yet_o with_o this_o moderation_n that_o this_o dispensation_n of_o the_o church_n power_n in_o the_o officer_n be_v according_a to_o a_o well_o temper_a form_n partly_o aristocratical_a partly_o democraticall_a the_o church_n commit_v those_o thing_n to_o the_o presbytery_n which_o it_o can_v commodious_o perform_v by_o itself_o and_o retain_v that_o exercise_n of_o power_n which_o belong_v to_o the_o dignity_n authority_n and_o liberty_n which_o it_o have_v receive_v from_o christ_n thus_o he_o whole_o destroy_v that_o democraty_n or_o popular_a anarchy_n which_o beza_n just_o condemn_v in_o morellius_n and_o be_v by_o some_o unjust_o impute_v to_o those_o that_o plead_v for_o a_o due_a reformation_n of_o church_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o primitive_a pattern_n of_o the_o first_o sort_n of_o thing_n which_o the_o church_n commit_v to_o the_o ruler_n because_o it_o can_v commodious_o perform_v they_o by_o itself_o he_o speak_v in_o cap._n 9.10.11_o answ._n mr_n dau._n profess_a and_o promise_v touch_v mr_n parker_n and_o these_o other_o writer_n that_o he_o will_v show_v they_o to_o be_v strong_o against_o i_o but_o though_o he_o make_v a_o long_a discourse_n of_o his_o writing_n and_o do_v allege_v in_o gross_a eleven_o chapter_n at_o once_o out_o of_o mr_n parker_n yet_o do_v i_o not_o find_v that_o he_o apply_v any_o thing_n to_o the_o question_n against_o i_o for_o i._o suppose_v it_o be_v grant_v which_o yet_o some_o godly_a and_o learned_a man_n deny_v that_o all_o power_n ecclesiastical_a be_v essential_o and_o primary_o in_o the_o church_n as_o the_o proper_a subject_n thereof_o and_o from_o thence_o derive_v and_o communicate_v to_o other_o either_o particular_a person_n or_o assembly_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n what_o be_v this_o to_o our_o question_n do_v it_o follow_v from_o hence_o that_o synod_n have_v no_o power_n to_o judge_v ecclesiastical_a cause_n or_o that_o they_o be_v only_o for_o counsel_n or_o admonition_n this_o be_v the_o point_n of_o our_o question_n but_o this_o neither_o mr_n parker_n affirm_v neither_o do_v mr_n d._n offer_v to_o conclude_v it_o by_o any_o just_a consequence_n from_o his_o word_n and_o so_o all_o that_o he_o allege_v be_v not_o to_o the_o purpose_n ii_o this_o very_a derivation_n of_o power_n from_o particular_a church_n unto_o class_n and_o synod_n be_v a_o argument_n of_o the_o power_n of_o judgement_n that_o be_v in_o they_o for_o what_o great_a need_n be_v there_o of_o a_o derivative_a power_n to_o consult_v or_o to_o admonish_v only_o mr_n d._n confess_v that_o 47._o that_o apol._n reply_n p._n 47._o every_o christian_n have_v power_n of_o admonition_n in_o another_o for_o his_o good_a and_o shall_v synod_n have_v no_o more_o power_n then_o particular_a and_o private_a person_n iii_o whereas_o mr_n parker_n distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o exercise_n of_o that_o power_n and_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o execution_n of_o this_o power_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n be_v not_o in_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o in_o some_o special_a person_n appoint_v thereunto_o it_o follow_v hence_o that_o in_o some_o thing_n the_o minister_n and_o governor_n of_o a_o church_n have_v a_o power_n which_o the_o church_n can_v exercise_v without_o they_o and_o therefore_o in_o some_o respect_n a_o great_a authority_n than_o the_o whole_a church_n beside_o they_o this_o be_v confess_v in_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o brownist_n themselves_o who_o keep_v their_o child_n sometime_o unbaptise_v for_o many_o year_n together_o while_o they_o want_v minister_n that_o have_v authority_n to_o baptise_v iv_o the_o author_n allege_v by_o mr_n parker_n to_o show_v that_o ecclesiastical_a power_n be_v original_o in_o the_o church_n do_v never_o draw_v any_o such_o consequence_n from_o thence_o that_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n but_o make_v the_o contrary_a conclusion_n that_o therefore_o there_o be_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o they_o and_o this_o conclusion_n be_v make_v not_o only_o by_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n and_o basill_n joh._n gerson_n &_o schola_fw-la parisiensis_fw-la but_o by_o d._n whitaker_n also_o who_o mr_n dau._n 238._o dau._n ibid._n p._n 237._o 238._o allege_v as_o if_o he_o make_v for_o he_o who_o yet_o reason_n strong_o against_o he_o say_v 170._o say_v de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr qu._n 5._o p._n 170._o if_o a_o particular_a church_n have_v great_a authority_n in_o judgement_n than_o peter_n or_o any_o particular_a man_n then_o much_o more_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o be_v represent_v in_o a_o general_a council_n or_o synod_n v._o for_o mr_n parker_n himself_o though_o he_o be_v very_o large_a touch_v the_o original_a power_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o the_o derivation_n thereof_o unto_o minister_n &_o synod_n yet_o he_o never_o conclude_v from_o hence_o a_o want_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n but_o declare_v the_o contrary_a in_o many_o etc._n many_o pol._n ecc._n l._n 3._o c._n 20._o &_o 23_o 24._o etc._n etc._n place_n as_o be_v to_o be_v show_v hereafter_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v we_o consider_v how_o mr_n dau._n proceed_v in_o allege_v mr_n parker_n i._o dav_n of_o the_o second_o sort_n of_o thing_n which_o the_o church_n retain_v in_o itself_o because_o it_o can_v commodious_o exercise_v they_o by_o itself_o he_o speak_v in_o cap._n 12._o wherein_o by_o 22_o argument_n he_o prove_v the_o church_n superiority_n over_o her_o pastor_n and_o ruler_n in_o 3_o respect_n 1._o of_o the_o end_n the_o power_n which_o they_o have_v be_v give_v they_o for_o her_o aedification_n 2._o in_o respect_n of_o the_o application_n of_o it_o to_o the_o person_n 3._o in_o respect_n of_o regulate_v the_o use_n of_o it_o if_o it_o be_v abuse_v answ._n i._n if_o those_o 22_o argument_n of_o mr_n park_n be_v good_a and_o effectual_a to_o prove_v the_o church_n superiority_n over_o her_o ruler_n then_o have_v we_o so_o many_o sound_a argument_n to_o prove_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n this_o be_v evident_a because_o mr_n p._n apply_v those_o 22_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o of_o particular_a church_n
judgement_n touch_v this_o controversy_n be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o which_o i_o have_v here_o note_v out_o of_o his_o writing_n and_o for_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n no_o other_o than_o that_o which_o i_o maintain_v throughout_o this_o discourse_n sect_n viii_o touch_v the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n in_o q._n mary_n time_n io._n dav_n 67._o dav_n apol._n reply_n p._n 243._o a_o discourse_n of_o the_o trouble_n in_o the_o engl._n chur._n at_o franckf_n art_n 62._o art_n 67._o and_o to_o conclude_v thus_o it_o be_v order_v in_o the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n among_o the_o exile_n in_o those_o marian_n day_n that_o if_o all_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n be_v suspect_v or_o find_v party_n if_o any_o appeal_v be_v make_v from_o they_o that_o then_o such_o appeal_n be_v make_v to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n may_v appoint_v so_o many_o of_o the_o congregation_n to_o hear_v and_o determine_v the_o say_a matter_n or_o matter_n as_o it_o shall_v seem_v good_a to_o the_o congregation_n again_o if_o any_o controversy_n be_v about_o the_o doubtful_a meaning_n of_o any_o word_n or_o word_n in_o the_o discipline_n that_o first_o it_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o minister_n or_o senior_n and_o if_o they_o can_v agree_v thereupon_o than_o the_o thing_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n answ._n i._n it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o these_o two_o article_n of_o discipline_n be_v allege_v against_o i_o by_o 36._o by_o church_n plea_n p._n 36._o mr_n can_v as_o well_o as_o by_o mr_n dau._n there_o be_v this_o difference_n betwixt_o they_o that_o mr_n can_n add_v more_o word_n than_o he_o shall_v and_o mr_n daven_n omit_v some_o word_n that_o shall_v have_v be_v add_v that_o which_o mr_n can_v add_v be_v against_o himself_o and_o serve_v to_o condemn_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o brownist_n when_o he_o faith_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n that_o they_o have_v authority_n to_o hear_v &_o determine_v etc._n etc._n that_o which_o mr_n dau._n omit_v and_o refuse_v to_o express_v serve_v to_o reproove_v such_o as_o complain_v unjust_o of_o except_v against_o the_o elder_n judgement_n for_o when_o that_o 62_o article_n speak_v of_o appeal_n to_o be_v make_v unto_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n the_o minister_n senior_n &_o party_n except_v this_o latter_a clause_n show_v there_o be_v just_a cause_n of_o except_v against_o the_o elder_n judgement_n sometime_o and_o that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v refuse_v as_o incompetent_a judge_n be_v party_n this_o brief_a clause_n be_v of_o special_a use_n in_o our_o controversy_n ought_v not_o to_o have_v be_v omit_v by_o mr_n dau._n ii_o that_o which_o they_o allege_v for_o appeal_v unto_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n do_v not_o overthrow_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n this_o grant_v one_o kind_n of_o appeal_n do_v not_o exclude_v or_o deny_v another_o see_v particular_a congregation_n be_v subject_a to_o error_n and_o many_o of_o they_o daily_o do_v err_v why_o shall_v not_o appeal_v be_v grant_v from_o they_o unto_o class_n and_o synod_n especial_o where_o there_o be_v no_o magistrate_n that_o can_v or_o will_v judge_v of_o such_o error_n iii_o this_o appeal_v make_v unto_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n be_v not_o usual_o permit_v but_o extraordinary_o in_o case_n of_o special_a necessity_n when_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n be_v not_o able_a to_o end_v the_o controversy_n bring_v unto_o they_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o article_n be_v 57_o be_v â—isc_fw-la of_o troubl_n in_o engl_n ch._n at_o franckf_n art_n 57_o in_o case_n they_o can_v end_v they_o than_o afterward_o to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n their_o ordinary_a practice_n be_v otherwise_o as_o appear_v in_o other_o article_n of_o their_o discipline_n where_o it_o be_v plain_o ordain_v 59_o ordain_v ibid._n art_n 59_o that_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n shall_v have_v authority_n to_o hear_v and_o determine_v on_o the_o behalf_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n all_o offence_n determinable_a by_o the_o congregation_n commit_v by_o any_o person_n in_o the_o congregation_n unless_o the_o party_n call_v before_o they_o have_v just_a occasion_n to_o take_v exception_n to_o the_o say_a minister_n and_o senior_n or_o to_o appeal_v from_o they_o as_o not_o competent_a judge_n and_o afterward_o again_o there_o be_v another_o strict_a and_o severe_a decree_n 63._o decree_n art_n 63._o if_o any_o person_n do_v unjust_o take_v exception_n to_o any_o of_o the_o minister_n or_o appeal_v from_o the_o whole_a ministry_n that_o then_o such_o person_n beside_o the_o punishment_n for_o the_o principal_a cause_n shall_v also_o be_v punish_v as_o a_o contemner_n of_o the_o ministry_n and_o a_o disturber_n of_o the_o church_n this_o order_n as_o it_o serve_v to_o condemn_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o brownist_n as_o tend_v to_o the_o disturbance_n of_o the_o church_n while_o they_o give_v no_o power_n of_o judge_v and_o decide_v cause_n unto_o the_o eldership_n so_o it_o serve_v for_o the_o reproof_n both_o of_o they_o and_o mr_n davenp_n in_o deny_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n for_o if_o the_o church_n may_v in_o ordinary_a case_n commit_v their_o authority_n unto_o a_o eldership_n &_o not_o deprive_v themselves_o of_o their_o right_n then_o why_o may_v they_o not_o do_v so_o likewise_o unto_o class_n and_o synod_n four_o this_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n do_v commit_v and_o delegate_v the_o power_n of_o judge_a controversy_n not_o only_o to_o their_o elder_n but_o upon_o occasion_n even_o unto_o other_o particular_a and_o private_a member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o have_v no_o ecclesiastical_a office_n and_o this_o in_o divers_a degree_n as_o 1._o in_o case_n some_o of_o the_o eldership_n though_o the_o lesser_a part_n be_v except_v against_o as_o party_n 2._o when_o the_o great_a part_n be_v except_v against_o 3._o when_o all_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n be_v suspect_v etc._n etc._n thus_o they_o do_v erect_v as_o it_o be_v three_o several_a sort_n of_o class_n or_o synod_n within_o themselves_o for_o the_o judicature_n of_o such_o cause_n as_o can_v not_o be_v end_v by_o the_o eldership_n thus_o they_o ordain_v in_o these_o three_o several_a article_n of_o their_o discipline_n which_o follow_v of_o the_o first_o sort_n 60._o sort_n art_n 60._o item_n if_o any_o have_v just_a occasion_n to_o take_v exception_n to_o some_o of_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n and_o not_o to_o the_o more_o part_n that_o then_o those_o of_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n to_o who_o the_o exception_n be_v make_v in_o this_o case_n shall_v not_o be_v judge_n but_o in_o this_o case_n for_o the_o time_n remove_v from_o the_o ministry_n and_o that_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n to_o who_o no_o exception_n shall_v be_v make_v with_o as_o many_o of_o the_o congregation_n join_v to_o they_o 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before_o grosser_n fault_n be_v more_o common_a with_o he_o ii_o as_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o nazianzen_n the_o answer_n of_o d._n whitaker_n may_v give_v sufficient_a satisfaction_n who_o say_v 15._o say_v de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr qu._n 1._o c._n 3._o p._n 13.14_o 15._o it_o may_v seem_v strange_a that_o nazianzen_n deny_v he_o have_v see_v a_o good_a issue_n of_o any_o synod_n for_o in_o those_o two_o synod_n viz._n of_o nice_a and_o constantinople_n which_o have_v be_v mention_v before_o truth_n get_v the_o victory_n and_o heresy_n be_v put_v down_o and_o though_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o arianisme_n be_v increase_v and_o grow_v strong_a and_o trouble_v the_o church_n after_o the_o synod_n of_o nice_a more_o than_o before_o yet_o that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v impute_v to_o the_o synod_n but_o to_o the_o contention_n and_o ambition_n of_o man_n for_o as_o our_o corrupt_a nature_n do_v more_o vehement_o resist_v the_o know_a law_n of_o god_n and_o rush_v headlong_o unto_o sin_n so_o falsehood_n oppose_v itself_o more_o bold_o unto_o the_o truth_n then_o explain_v and_o open_o defend_v whereupon_o after_o that_o synod_n which_o none_o excel_v great_a incommodity_n do_v arise_v from_o the_o wickedness_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n when_o nazianz._n see_v so_o wicked_a disposition_n of_o man_n he_o be_v whole_o turn_v from_o counsel_n although_o without_o doubt_n he_o disallow_v not_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o the_o wicked_a endeavour_n of_o man_n now_o if_o any_o will_v reason_v after_o this_o manner_n the_o issue_n of_o synod_n be_v not_o good_a or_o more_o evil_n follow_v thence_o therefore_o synod_n be_v to_o be_v avoid_v that_o man_n shall_v dispute_v deceitful_o from_o a_o wrong_a cause_n from_o accident_n and_o from_o the_o fallacy_n of_o consequent_a but_o nazianzen_n be_v to_o be_v pardon_v because_o he_o live_v in_o the_o worst_a and_o most_o turbulent_a time_n of_o the_o church_n when_o by_o mean_n of_o valens_n the_o emperor_n that_o degenerate_v from_o the_o catholic_n faith_n heretic_n do_v more_o prevail_v etc._n etc._n again_o he_o oppose_v augustine_n unto_o nazianzene_n and_o say_v it_o be_v most_o true_a which_o augustine_n say_v epist_n 118._o that_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v most_o wholesome_a which_o certain_o he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v if_o he_o have_v be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n with_o nazianzen_n and_o further_o he_o oppose_v unto_o the_o speech_n of_o nazianz._n the_o testimony_n of_o christ_n say_v christ_n himself_o pronounce_v and_o promise_v matt._n 18.20_o where_o two_o or_o three_o be_v assemble_v together_o in_o his_o name_n there_o he_o will_v be_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o they_o in_o which_o word_n he_o signifi_v that_o the_o assembly_n and_o synod_n of_o godly_a and_o religious_a man_n undertake_v and_o appoint_v for_o godly_a cause_n be_v not_o displease_v unto_o he_o iii_o the_o testimony_n of_o nazianzen_n be_v as_o much_o against_o the_o opinion_n of_o mr_n can_n and_o mr_n dau._n as_o against_o that_o which_o we_o hold_v touch_v class_n and_o synod_n for_o see_v they_o allow_v such_o meeting_n for_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n though_o not_o for_o exercise_v of_o any_o jurisdiction_n and_o see_v the_o testimony_n of_o nazian_n do_v extend_v itself_o to_o all_o kind_n of_o assembly_n of_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whether_o for_o counsel_n or_o censure_n without_o exception_n of_o one_o sort_n more_o than_o another_o therefore_o he_o no_o more_o condemn_v our_o synod_n than_o those_o which_o my_o opposite_n allow_v augustine_n his_o next_o witness_n be_v in_o like_a manner_n pervert_v as_o the_o former_a though_o he_o in_o the_o place_n 17._o place_n dedoct_n chr._n l._n 1._o c._n 17._o object_v do_v write_v that_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o thereby_o exclude_v synod_n gather_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o
of_o more_o church_n of_o this_o frame_n seat_v together_o where_o the_o disorder_n ensue_v will_v be_v more_o apparent_a and_o the_o neglect_n of_o the_o remedy_n more_o culpable_a have_v sufficient_a ground_n both_o of_o scripture_n and_o reason_n to_o uphold_v it_o first_o there_o be_v require_v a_o communion_n betwixt_o church_n as_o well_o as_o betwixt_o member_n of_o one_o church_n as_o have_v be_v note_v 109._o note_v pag._n 109._o before_o and_o see_v god_n be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o author_n of_o confusion_n or_o of_o unquietness_n but_o of_o peace_n and_o will_v have_v all_o thing_n do_v decent_o &_o in_o order_n special_o in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n 1._o cor._n 14.33_o 40._o hence_o we_o may_v conclude_v that_o such_o form_n of_o government_n as_o do_v avoidable_o tend_v to_o disunion_n and_o disorder_n be_v not_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n second_o the_o principle_n of_o nature_n &_o common_a equity_n as_o they_o may_v be_v read_v in_o the_o practice_n of_o all_o time_n and_o place_n do_v teach_v that_o no_o humane_a society_n can_v subsist_v together_o without_o these_o bond_n of_o combination_n &_o confederacy_n whereby_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o family_n unite_v themselves_o and_o grow_v together_o into_o great_a corporation_n city_n province_n commonwealth_n and_o kingdom_n for_o their_o mutual_a peace_n and_o safety_n in_o the_o way_n of_o government_n the_o subordination_n of_o court_n in_o civil_a government_n while_o they_o be_v frame_v according_a to_o a_o aristocratical_a temper_n be_v not_o repugnant_a unto_o the_o nature_n of_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n these_o thing_n thus_o premise_v and_o apply_v unto_o classical_a and_o synodall_n combination_n it_o may_v hereby_o appear_v how_o mr_n c._n have_v play_v the_o trifler_n in_o so_o many_o idle_a and_o impertinent_a answer_n which_o he_o have_v make_v unto_o his_o own_o frame_n of_o reason_n obtrude_v upon_o the_o defendant_n but_o for_o further_a satisfaction_n behold_v the_o substance_n of_o his_o answer_n i._o c._n answ._n i._n when_o god_n have_v establish_v a_o order_n for_o the_o administration_n of_o his_o own_o house_n what_o presumption_n of_o man_n dare_v change_v it_o think_v he_o that_o he_o be_v wise_a than_o the_o almighty_a etc._n etc._n repl._n i._n this_o answer_n say_v nothing_o to_o any_o part_n of_o the_o propose_a argument_n even_o as_o he_o himself_o have_v frame_v it_o unless_o it_o be_v a_o denial_n of_o the_o conclusion_n for_o of_o change_v a_o order_n that_o god_n have_v establish_v there_o be_v no_o mention_n nor_o colour_n of_o any_o such_o meaning_n in_o the_o author_n word_n which_o he_o undertake_v to_o refute_v only_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o independency_n be_v that_o form_n of_o administration_n which_o god_n have_v appoint_v unto_o his_o church_n this_o mr_n c._n with_o vehement_a asseveration_n affirm_v and_o complain_v of_o they_o that_o deny_v it_o if_o this_o reason_n be_v good_a he_o may_v easy_o beat_v down_o all_o objection_n that_o be_v make_v against_o his_o tenet_n ii_o observe_v with_o what_o insolent_a language_n he_o inveigh_v against_o those_o that_o oppose_v his_o opinion_n as_o if_o they_o do_v set_v themselves_o point_v blank_a against_o that_o which_o they_o see_v to_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n do_v he_o think_v the_o author_n or_o other_o of_o his_o mind_n mean_v to_o plead_v in_o such_o manner_n for_o their_o judgement_n &_o practice_n touch_v class_n and_o synod_n sure_a mr_n c._n know_v it_o to_o be_v otherwise_o at_o least_o by_o those_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o he_o see_v mention_v in_o their_o defence_n but_o herein_o also_o he_o show_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o disciple_n and_o follower_n of_o h._n barrow_n who_o for_o the_o same_o thing_n reproach_v the_o reformist_n say_v 190._o say_v discov_n p._n 189._o 190._o they_o will_v bring_v in_o a_o new_a adulterate_a forge_a government_n in_o show_n or_o rather_o in_o despite_n of_o christ_n bless_a government_n which_o they_o in_o the_o pride_n rashness_n ignorance_n and_o sensuality_n of_o their_o fleshly_a heart_n most_o miserable_o innovate_v corrupt_a and_o pervert_v etc._n etc._n mr_n c._n do_v here_o in_o like_a manner_n multiply_v word_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n i._o c._n answ._n ii_o be_v it_o well_o consider_v that_o god_n always_o abhor_v all_o good_a intentes_fw-la of_o man_n that_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o good_a pleasure_n of_o his_o will_n reveal_v in_o his_o word_n etc._n etc._n repl._n i._o there_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v of_o any_o intentes_fw-la in_o the_o suppose_a reason_n it_o be_v only_o say_v that_o independency_n will_v be_v attend_v with_o disorder_n and_o confusion_n etc._n etc._n mr_n c._n therefore_o dispute_v with_o his_o own_o intentes_fw-la in_o these_o his_o impertinent_a answer_n ii_o how_o can_v god_n be_v say_v to_o abhor_v good_a intentes_fw-la or_o how_o can_v those_o be_v say_v to_o be_v good_a intentes_fw-la that_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o reveal_v will_n of_o god_n iii_o intention_n note_v the_o purpose_n of_o the_o will_n with_o reference_n both_o unto_o the_o end_n at_o which_o it_o aim_v and_o the_o mean_n by_o which_o it_o endeavour_v to_o attain_v that_o end_n if_o both_o these_o be_v good_a &_o lawful_a the_o intention_n also_o be_v absolute_o good_a yet_o if_o the_o end_n be_v good_a though_o the_o mean_n be_v unwarrantable_a the_o intention_n be_v not_o present_o abhor_v but_o sometime_o commend_v of_o god_n himself_o as_o in_o david_n when_o he_o purpose_v to_o build_v a_o house_n for_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n 1._o king_n 8.18_o with_o 2._o sam._n 7.7_o but_o in_o this_o case_n on_o their_o part_n that_o maintain_v classical_a and_o synodall_n combination_n not_o only_o the_o end_n they_o aim_v at_o to_o wit_n peace_n order_n and_o the_o establishment_n of_o church_n but_o the_o mean_n also_o or_o the_o practice_n of_o such_o combination_n be_v allow_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n neither_o do_v mr_n c._n prove_v aught_o to_o the_o contrary_n i._o c._n answ._n iii_o this_o objection_n take_v up_o here_o by_o mr_n paget_n be_v the_o very_a same_o which_o the_o papist_n and_o those_o that_o way_n affect_v use_v etc._n etc._n repl._n i._o if_o papist_n use_v the_o very_a same_o objection_n that_o be_v if_o from_o the_o same_o premise_n they_o make_v the_o same_o conclusion_n reject_v independency_n &_o anti-synodall_a course_n because_o of_o the_o confusion_n and_o disorder_n which_o do_v follow_v the_o same_o then_o herein_o they_o be_v no_o papist_n forasmuch_o as_o protestant_n have_v reason_v in_o like_a manner_n as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o sundry_a testimony_n before_o 2-7_a before_o ch._n 7._o sect._n 2-7_a allege_v ii_o when_o papist_n dispute_v against_o any_o lawful_a form_n of_o government_n with_o the_o same_o argument_n which_o we_o use_v against_o that_o which_o be_v unlawful_a this_o can_v no_o more_o prejudice_v our_o reason_n then_o it_o do_v mr_n cannes_n while_o both_o he_o &_o they_o reason_n against_o lawful_a synod_n as_o take_v away_o that_o right_a and_o power_n which_o they_o pretend_v to_o be_v due_a unto_o other_o he_o asscribe_v that_o to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n which_o they_o do_v 5._o do_v bellar._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont_n l._n 4._o c._n 1._o &_o de_fw-fr verb._n dei_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 5._o to_o the_o pope_n viz._n the_o supreme_a ecclesiastical_a judgement_n of_o all_o controversy_n and_o both_o plead_n from_o the_o same_o ground_n of_o scripture_n math._n 16_o &_o 18_o etc._n etc._n man_n may_v use_v the_o like_a argument_n &_o yet_o their_o conclusion_n be_v far_o unlike_a &_o contradictory_n i._o c._n answ._n iu._n if_o particular_a congregation_n must_v loose_v their_o right_n and_o power_n because_o of_o the_o offence_n which_o some_o man_n have_v commit_v in_o the_o exercise_n thereof_o then_o sure_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n if_o mr_n paget_n reason_v be_v worth_a any_o thing_n ought_v class_n and_o synod_n to_o lay_v down_o that_o superior_a authority_n which_o they_o have_v take_v over_o many_o church_n because_o they_o in_o many_o thing_n many_o time_n have_v offend_v in_o and_o about_o the_o execution_n repl._n i._n the_o reason_n here_o mention_v by_o mr_n c._n be_v a_o mere_a fiction_n and_o forgery_n of_o his_o own_o the_o author_n never_o reason_v on_o this_o manner_n he_o never_o say_v never_o think_v to_o say_v that_o particular_a congregation_n must_v loose_v their_o right_n &_o power_n etc._n etc._n there_o be_v no_o shadow_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n in_o those_o word_n which_o mr_n c._n have_v here_o set_v down_o for_o himself_o to_o answer_v ii_o particular_a congregation_n do_v still_o retain_v their_o due_a right_n &_o power_n even_o while_o they_o be_v subordinate_a unto_o the_o superior_a authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n as_o have_v be_v often_o show_v etc._n
not_o only_o the_o head_n but_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o brownist_n cause_n &_o rabbin_n fancy_n &_o forgery_n wherein_o i_o profess_v you_o have_v give_v i_o better_a satisfaction_n both_o of_o your_o own_o sufficiency_n for_o polemicall_a employment_n in_o the_o lord_n service_n whereof_o notwithstanding_o i_o ever_o hold_v a_o very_a good_a opinion_n &_o of_o the_o weakness_n &_o vanity_n of_o all_o their_o force_n &_o fortress_n raise_v &_o advance_v against_o either_o god_n church_n or_o god_n word_n than_o hitherto_o i_o ever_o have_v or_o can_v ever_o by_o any_o thing_n that_o i_o have_v hear_v or_o see_v attain_v unto_o which_o if_o i_o may_v not_o speak_v as_o true_o as_o free_o or_o do_v not_o think_v as_o unfeigned_o as_o i_o write_v it_o willing_o i_o shall_v fear_v this_o may_v savour_v of_o some_o spice_n of_o flattery_n which_o i_o have_v &_o i_o know_v you_o neither_o love_n nor_o look_v for_o at_o my_o hand_n the_o substance_n of_o this_o his_o judicious_a &_o unpartial_a approbation_n have_v be_v confirm_v by_o sundry_a other_o in_o like_a manner_n eminent_a for_o learning_n &_o piety_n &_o shall_v doubtless_o be_v further_o verify_v hereafter_o according_a to_o his_o gracious_a dispose_n who_o have_v say_v 112.6_o say_v prov._n 10.7_o psal_n 112.6_o the_o memory_n of_o the_o just_a be_v bless_v and_o the_o righteous_a shall_v be_v in_o everlasting_a remembrance_n the_o content_n of_o the_o first_o part_n touch_v a_o particular_a eldership_n chap._n i._n the_o occasion_n of_o this_o writing_n and_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n pag._n 1._o chap._n ii_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o the_o eldership_n in_o judge_v and_o end_v some_o cause_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o congregation_n pag._n 2._o chap._n iii_o a_o refutation_n of_o sundry_a error_n whereupon_o mr_n ainsworth_n ground_n their_o popular_a government_n pag._n 7._o chap._n iu._n whether_o the_o people_n be_v bind_v to_o be_v present_a at_o the_o proceed_n against_o offender_n pag._n 19_o the_o second_o part_n touch_v class_n and_o synod_n chap._n i._n the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n and_o the_o importance_n thereof_o pag._n 29._o chap._n ii_o the_o first_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n deut._n 17_o 8-12_a pag._n 34._o chap._n iii_o the_o second_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n math._n 18_o 15-20_a pag._n 42._o chap._n iu._n the_o three_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n pag._n 61._o mr_n dau._n his_o exception_n touch_v act._n 15._o answer_v pag._n 66._o mr_n cannes_n exception_n touch_v act._n 15._o answer_v pag._n 81._o chap._n v._o a_o answer_n to_o the_o allegation_n of_o mr_n davenport_n touch_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n sect_n i._o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n cartwright_n answer_v pag_n 81._o sect_n ii_o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n fenner_n examine_v pag_n 84._o sect_n iii_o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n parker_n examine_v pag._n 88_o sect_n iv_o his_o allegation_n of_o dr_n ames_n examine_v pag._n 106._o sect_n v._o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n baynes_n examine_v pag._n 111._o sect_n vi_o his_o allegation_n of_o the_o repâ—â—â—_n upon_o dr_n doâ—man_n examine_v pag._n 116._o sect_n vii_o his_o allegation_n of_o dr_n voetius_fw-la examine_v pag._n 118._o sect_n viii_o touch_v the_o english_a church_n at_o francford_n in_o q._n mary_n time_n pag._n 121._o sect_n ix_o mr_n dau._n his_o pretence_n of_o agreement_n with_o junius_n examine_v pag._n 125._o sect_n x._o his_o pretence_n of_o agreement_n with_o dr_n whitaker_n examine_v pag_n 133._o sect_n xi_o his_o allegation_n of_o chamierus_n examine_v pag._n 141._o chap._n vi_o a_o answer_n to_o mr_n cannes_n argument_n pag._n 145._o chap._n vii_o the_o allegation_n of_o mr_n can_v examine_v pag._n 16â—_n sect_n i._o touch_v the_o testimony_n of_o papist_n pag_n 169._o sect_n ii_o the_o testimony_n of_o lutheran_n pag._n 173._o sect_n iii_o the_o testimony_n of_o calvinist_n pag._n 184._o sect_n iv_o the_o testimony_n of_o english_a conformist_n pag._n 196._o sect_n v._o the_o testimony_n of_o english_a nonconformist_n pag._n 200._o sect_n vi_o the_o testimony_n of_o ancient_a father_n counsel_n and_o emperor_n pag._n 213._o sect_n vii_o the_o testimony_n of_o reform_a church_n pag._n 227._o a_o supplement_n for_o answer_v unto_o that_o which_o follow_v in_o mr_n cannes_n book_n touch_v the_o evil_a consequent_n of_o indepudency_n the_o antiquity_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 240._o finis_fw-la