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A51460 An historical treatise of the foundation and prerogatives of the Church of Rome and of her bishops written originally in French by Monsieur Maimbourg ; and translated into English by A. Lovel ...; Traité historique de l'établissement et prérogatives de l'Eglise de Rome et de ses evêques. English Maimbourg, Louis, 1610-1686.; Lovell, Archibald. 1685 (1685) Wing M289; ESTC R11765 158,529 442

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