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the_o confession_n that_o s._n chrystom_n speak_v of_o ad_fw-la heb._n hom_n 31._o he_o have_v say_v before_o poenitentem_fw-la non_fw-la oportet_fw-la peccatum_fw-la suum_fw-la oblivioni_fw-la tradere_fw-la peccatum_fw-la confession_n minuitur_fw-la nullum_fw-la invenitur_fw-la delictorum_fw-la tale_n remedium_fw-la sicut_fw-la eorum_fw-la continuata_fw-la memoria_fw-la the_o penitent_a must_v not_o forgete_v his_o sin_n the_o sin_n be_v diminish_v by_o confession_n no_o such_o remedy_n of_o sin_n be_v find_v as_o the_o continual_a remembrance_n of_o they_o nec_fw-la tantum_fw-la nos_fw-la peccatores_fw-la esse_fw-la dicamus_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipsa_fw-la peccata_fw-la specialiter_fw-la singula_fw-la computemus_fw-la neither_o let_v we_o only_o say_v we_o be_v sinner_n in_o general_n but_o let_v we_o reckon_v up_o every_o sin_n in_o special_a upon_o which_o word_n immediate_o it_o follow_v i_o say_v not_o to_o thou_o that_o thou_o shall_v bewray_v thyself_o open_o but_o open_v 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in_o other_o place_n he_o have_v teach_v we_o that_o the_o priest_n be_v in_o better_a case_n to_o purge_v sin_n now_o than_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o law_n be_v to_o show_v that_o the_o leprouse_n be_v purge_v his_o word_n be_v corporis_fw-la lepram_fw-la haud_fw-la purgare_fw-la quidem_fw-la soul_n chrysost_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-la sacerdotio_fw-la priest_n have_v power_n to_o purge_v the_o lepre_n of_o the_o soul_n sed_fw-la purgatos_fw-la probare_fw-la judaeorum_n sacerdotibus_fw-la solis_fw-la licebat_fw-la at_o vero_fw-la nostris_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la non_fw-la corporis_fw-la lepram_fw-la verùm_fw-la animae_fw-la sordes_fw-la non_fw-la dico_fw-la purgatas_fw-la probare_fw-la sed_fw-la purgare_fw-la prorsus_fw-la concessum_fw-la est_fw-la the_o priest_n only_o of_o the_o jew_n have_v power_n not_o to_o purge_v the_o lepre_n of_o the_o body_n but_o to_o try_v they_o that_o be_v purge_v but_o true_o unto_o our_o priest_n it_o be_v give_v utter_o to_o cleanse_v not_o the_o lepre_n 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