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that_o sin_n be_v derive_v unto_o us._n but_o you_o draw_v i_o to_o talk_v of_o these_o intricat_a thing_n which_o i_o will_v in_o no_o wise_n meddle_v with_o i_o pray_v keep_v 10._o keep_v pag._n 10._o your_o promise_n better_o not_o to_o meddle_v with_o this_o difficulty_n neither_o to_o make_v it_o any_o ground_n of_o your_o reason_n which_o yet_o you_o do_v here_o notwithstanding_o again_o you_o with_o one_o breath_n overthrow_v yourself_o for_o you_o say_v we_o have_v pollution_n before_o the_o soul_n come_v whence_o soever_o it_o come_v yea_o whence_o soever_o what_o if_o the_o soul_n do_v come_v in_o &_o by_o generation_n you_o see_v how_o you_o cross_v yourself_o who_o do_v so_o taunt_v i_o for_o this_o fault_n i_o hope_v altogether_o unjust_o then_o 25_o then_o pag._n 25_o you_o
last_o day_n and_o hence_o also_o it_o be_v that_o you_o say_v god_n justice_n punish_v the_o soul_n only_o by_o the_o body_n that_o be_v not_o till_o the_o resurrection_n this_o only_o the_o effect_n of_o you_o speech_n contain_v plain_o and_o full_o yea_o in_o truth_n thus_o you_o must_v needs_o affirm_v and_o hold_v you_o can_v not_o avoid_v it_o if_o you_o will_v hold_v vour_z main_a question_n only_o except_o you_o deny_v that_o christ_n have_v a_o humane_a soul_n perfect_a in_o all_o the_o power_n and_o faculty_n thereof_o like_o we_o or_o else_o that_o god_n do_v not_o proper_o punish_v christ_n for_o our_o sin_n of_o necessity_n you_o must_v fall_v into_o one_o of_o these_o dangerous_a evil_n for_o aught_o that_o i_o yet_o see_v wherefore_o this_o point_n be_v not_o â—_o not_o pag_n â—_o so_o easy_a nor_o so_o evident_a to_o the_o simple_a as_o you_o pretend_v and_o i_o think_v you_o have_v need_n of_o better_a reason_n then_o hitherto_o i_o see_v any_o you_o have_v before_o the_o godly_a and_o learned_a will_v believe_v you_o the_o rather_o for_o that_o in_o deed_n here_o you_o commit_v further_o 2._o grievous_a fault_n 1._o tertullian_n your_o own_o author_n &_o the_o principal_a ground_n which_o you_o have_v for_o your_o opinion_n here_o be_v wonderful_o ill_o use_v 2._o you_o be_v strange_o contrary_a to_o yourself_o in_o your_o very_a wind_a up_o of_o the_o matter_n as_o for_o tertullian_n he_o resolve_v direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n which_o &c_n which_o de_fw-fr râ—â—â—_n carn_v câ—â—â—_n animas_fw-la 〈◊〉_d torquer_v 〈◊〉_d rique_fw-la peâ—â—â—â—â—ros_fw-la &c_n &c_n you_o cite_v from_o he_o say_v he_o the_o example_n of_o lazarus_n in_o the_o gospel_n prove_v that_o man_n soul_n though_o alone_o and_o without_o their_o body_n be_v punish_v and_o comfort_v in_o the_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a the_o soul_n shall_v lack_v the_o reunit_n of_o the_o flesh_n with_o it_o not_o for_o that_o it_o can_v not_o feel_v any_o thing_n without_o the_o 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reason_n which_o you_o gather_v out_o of_o he_o prove_v contrary_a to_o the_o same_o that_o the_o soul_n now_o without_o the_o flesh_n receave_v judgement_n for_o such_o action_n as_o of_o itself_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o do_v and_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o do_v certain_a action_n of_o itself_o as_o to_o think_v to_o will_v to_o desire_v to_o order_n and_o dispose_v thing_n but_o to_o accomplish_v it_o be_v not_o able_a namely_o outward_a action_n the_o judgement_n of_o which_o action_n indeed_o the_o soul_n shall_v tarry_v for_o till_o the_o reunit_n again_o of_o the_o flesh_n therewith_o it_o seem_v that_o tertullian_n cite_v before_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o lâ—â—_n the_o such_o a_o fore_n not_o 〈◊〉_d pope_n lâ—â—_n heretâ—kes_n hold_v that_o the_o soul_n sleep_v till_o the_o last_o judgement_n and_o receive_v no_o reward_n at_o all_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n for_o want_v of_o the_o society_n of_o their_o flesh_n which_o till_o then_o lie_v rot_v in_o the_o grave_a but_o here_o tertullian_n answer_v and_o renounce_v all_o this_o same_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—s_o afterwards_o &_o the_o â—nhapilies_n 〈◊〉_d now_o 〈◊〉_d and_o so_o those_o be_v the_o heretic_n word_n against_o tertullian_n which_o you_o allege_v out_o of_o he_o in_o steed_n of_o catholic_a which_o deal_v what_o it_o be_v i_o leave_v to_o be_v consider_v next_o your_o own_o contradictory_n deal_v in_o this_o place_n be_v also_o not_o to_o be_v forget_v for_o yourself_o shut_v up_o with_o a_o excellent_a reason_n against_o yourself_o almost_o the_o same_o that_o i_o observe_v present_o before_o in_o tertullian_n against_o your_o collection_n thus_o you_o say_v 257._o say_v pag._n 257._o do_v i_o deny_v then_o that_o the_o soul_n have_v any_o suffering_n in_o this_o life_n and_o the_o next_o which_o come_v not_o by_o the_o body_n by_o no_o mean_n the_o soul_n have_v some_o proper_a punishment_n in_o this_o life_n as_o sorrow_n and_o fear_n when_o the_o body_n have_v no_o hurt_n from_o which_o christ_n be_v 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hell_n and_o hell_n pain_n be_v to_o no_o purpose_n if_o 258.259_o if_o 〈◊〉_d 258.259_o you_o cite_v they_o to_o prove_v that_o christ_n have_v no_o natural_a fear_n of_o death_n and_o hell_n you_o 22â—_n you_o â—â—g_v 22â—_n gainsay_v that_o yourself_o further_a than_o we_o do_v or_o then_o the_o truth_n be_v then_o pag._n then_o pag._n you_o come_v to_o my_o other_o reason_n which_o i_o call_v special_a not_o for_o more_o excellency_n in_o they_o then_o in_o the_o other_o except_o only_o that_o i_o take_v these_o to_o be_v not_o so_o general_n as_o the_o former_a but_o more_o near_o to_o touch_v our_o quaestion_n which_o you_o may_v perceive_v well_o enough_o to_o have_v be_v my_o meaning_n by_o the_o express_a opposition_n that_o 3._o that_o treat_n pag._n 3._o i_o make_v of_o general_n and_o special_a but_o it_o appear_v you_o have_v rather_o take_v my_o word_n so_o as_o that_o you_o may_v make_v they_o to_o serve_v your_o unseemly_a jest_n and_o better_a inveigh_v humour_n which_o yet_o in_o the_o end_n will_v help_v your_o cause_n but_o little_a against_o b_o my_o 1._o reason_n out_o of_o i_o say_v that_o christ_n suffer_v those_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n for_o sin_n which_o else_o we_o shall_v have_v bear_v you_o except_v that_o i_o express_v not_o whether_o i_o mean_v all_o or_o some_o i_o answer_v all_z and_o every_o whit_n i_o mean_v so_o far_o as_o possibllity_n will_v admit_v and_o namely_o as_o touch_v the_o very_a sorrow_n and_o pain_n nothing_o be_v abate_v in_o the_o nature_n and_o vehemency_n of_o the_o pain_n which_o he_o suffer_v any_o more_o than_o be_v abate_v in_o the_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n of_o the_o damn_a this_o the_o very_a text_n here_o express_v with_o great_a unto_o great_a which_o faint_a intâ—tations_n 〈◊〉_d 261._o
lâ—sse_o to_o make_v his_o son_n or_o his_o son_n to_o make_v himself_o any_o such_o surety_n or_o redeemer_n of_o rebel_n as_o christ_n be_v make_v and_o may_v be_v make_v of_o god_n for_o us._n so_o that_o also_o where_o you_o will_v have_v it_o to_o serve_v that_o we_o may_v perceive_v by_o this_o how_o christ_n be_v not_o defile_v nor_o hateful_a nor_o guilty_a by_o imputation_n of_o our_o treason_n it_o be_v evident_o to_o weak_a for_o you_o have_v not_o show_v neither_o can_v show_v that_o this_o king_n son_n be_v or_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v such_o a_o surety_n &_o redeemer_n as_o christ_n be_v that_o be_v unto_o bodily_a death_n therefore_o this_o similitude_n can_v be_v good_a we_o have_v other_o manner_n of_o warrant_n that_o christ_n be_v by_o imputation_n make_v sin_n for_o we_o and_o the_o curse_n for_o we_o and_o that_o this_o ordinance_n be_v holy_a and_o right_a and_o above_o all_o reproof_n which_o you_o can_v not_o bring_v for_o your_o king_n son_n suretyship_n nor_o for_o the_o king_n fact_n who_o keep_v not_o the_o order_n of_o justice_n when_o he_o spare_v abominable_a rebel_n without_o their_o bloodshed_n or_o when_o he_o slay_v his_o guiltless_a son_n for_o they_o that_o they_o may_v be_v spare_v after_o this_o c_o he_o impugn_v another_o reason_n of_o i_o with_o marveylous_a scorn_n and_o detestation_n 183.284_o pa._n 183.284_o that_o see_v christ_n d_o on_o the_o cross_n spoil_v principality_n and_o power_n 2.15_o col._n 2.15_o and_o make_v a_o show_n of_o they_o open_o triumph_v over_o they_o therefore_o i_o collect_v that_o christ_n there_o discern_v and_o feel_v the_o power_n of_o darkness_n satan_n and_o his_o complice_n as_o very_a instrument_n work_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n wrath_n upon_o himself_o which_o as_o i_o conceive_v be_v no_o such_o foolish_a nor_o impious_a reason_n as_o he_o vain_o pretend_v for_o do_v not_o the_o very_a phrase_n and_o manner_n of_o speech_n import_v some_o such_o mighty_a contention_n and_o violent_a 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of_o the_o h._n ghost_n be_v true_a that_o on_o the_o cross_n christ_n obtain_v such_o a_o victory_n against_o the_o devil_n which_o impli_v also_o such_o a_o conflict_n first_o as_o i_o have_v observe_v yet_o because_o you_o will_v needs_o examine_v the_o manner_n how_o possible_o this_o may_v be_v let_v we_o see_v what_o you_o make_v of_o it_o the_o devil_n say_v you_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n but_o either_o to_o tempt_v they_o or_o torment_v they_o first_o before_o i_o answer_v you_o direct_o this_o we_o may_v consider_v christ_n may_v and_o no_o doubt_n he_o do_v in_o his_o soul_n discern_v conceive_v and_o apply_v to_o himself_o all_o the_o rage_n malice_n cross_n how_o châ—â—â—_n may_v be_v fault_v by_o than_o on_o cross_n and_o violence_n of_o the_o jew_n torment_v he_o to_o death_n as_o set_v on_o fire_n by_o satan_n himself_o and_o by_o all_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n and_o these_o also_o as_o set_v on_o work_n by_o the_o justice_n and_o 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be_v the_o proper_a &_o principal_a cause_n of_o his_o agony_n but_o what_o can_v be_v mean_v by_o this_o hour_n unless_o the_o pain_n of_o his_o suffering_n set_v and_o appoint_v by_o god_n for_o he_o to_o bear_v at_o this_o determine_a time_n from_o god_n justice_n for_o sin_n what_o be_v this_o cup_n but_o the_o bitter_a taste_n of_o the_o same_o pain_n aforesaid_a this_o i_o hope_v be_v not_o his_o holiness_n and_o sanctification_n which_o so_o trouble_v and_o molest_v he_o not_o his_o piety_n nor_o his_o pity_n nay_o final_o he_o himself_o express_v the_o true_a cause_n even_o his_o excessive_a pain_n his_o overabound_a sorrow_n and_o anguish_n say_v my_o soul_n be_v full_a of_o pain_n or_o full_a of_o sorrow_n even_o unto_o death_n here_o he_o name_v the_o cause_n for_o which_o cause_n also_o even_o of_o intolerable_a and_o unsupportable_a sorrow_n and_o pain_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o he_o cry_v at_o his_o end_n my_o god_n my_o god_n why_o have_v thou_o for_o saken_a i_o 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howbeit_o you_o have_v yet_o here_o and_o there_o some_o exception_n against_o this_o our_o doctrine_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v clean_o neglect_v first_o you_o say_v 290._o â—ag_n 290._o a_o i_o extend_v châ—istes_n agony_n too_o far_o because_o i_o will_v have_v it_o proceed_v from_o b_o the_o intolerable_a sorrow_n and_o horror_n of_o god_n fiery_a wrath_n equal_a to_o hell_n 80._o treat_n 1._o â—â—g_n 80._o i_o show_v not_o there_o the_o cause_n of_o christ_n agony_n and_o fear_n i_o show_v it_o of_o purpose_n in_o the_o c_o beginning_n why_o do_v you_o not_o refuse_v that_o 7_o treat_n 1._o â—ag_n 6_o 7_o you_o ought_v to_o have_v deal_v direct_o against_o that_o which_o i_o express_o mention_v to_o have_v be_v the_o cause_n thus_o i_o say_v his_o sorrow_n and_o suffering_n for_o the_o redemption_n of_o sin_n the_o cup_n of_o affliction_n and_o sorrow_n which_o now_o he_o feel_v and_o be_v to_o feel_v yet_o further_o cause_v he_o to_o mourn_v and_o fear_n say_v then_o plain_o 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rather_o not_o remember_v where_o you_o will_v 296._o will_v pag._n 296._o wring_v out_o a_o contrariety_n in_o my_o word_n as_o if_o i_o have_v say_v that_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o depth_n of_o his_o astonishment_n do_v then_o perfect_o know_v that_o the_o dominion_n of_o death_n shall_v not_o hold_v he_o you_o do_v i_o wrong_n i_o say_v not_o so_o in_o that_o place_n i_o argue_v from_o your_o supposition_n that_o if_o christ_n be_v now_o not_o astonish_v but_o in_o his_o perfect_a memory_n and_o full_a consider_v of_o such_o thing_n as_o you_o seem_v to_o affirm_v but_o i_o deny_v which_o otherwise_o he_o know_v well_o than_o it_o can_v not_o be_v the_o dominion_n of_o death_n that_o he_o thus_o fear_v since_o in_o his_o firm_a estate_n he_o know_v perfect_o that_o it_o shall_v not_o prevail_v over_o he_o to_o conclude_v this_o matter_n thus_o we_o may_v see_v how_o without_o colour_n of_o reason_n 297._o reason_n pag._n 297._o you_o wrest_v a_o plain_a text_n which_o otherwise_o 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deo_fw-la the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v god_n forsake_v of_o it_o 134._o â—â—fore_o pag._n â—_o 113._o â—_o 108._o 113_o â—_o 134._o but_o the_o scripture_n say_v god_n do_v leave_v he_o or_o forsake_v he_o for_o a_o season_n yea_o the_o father_n also_o c_o agree_v full_o thereunto_o the_o manner_n how_o do_v i_o have_v show_v before_o therefore_o by_o augustine_n definition_n large_o and_o right_o take_v christ_n may_v be_v say_v in_o some_o sense_n to_o have_v dye_v in_o soul_n howbeit_o though_o the_o father_n do_v grant_v the_o thing_n in_o effect_n as_o i_o have_v show_v yet_o i_o acknowledge_v they_o do_v deny_v this_o phrase_n general_o and_o so_o do_v austin_n in_o this_o place_n but_o thereabouts_o we_o never_o make_v question_n this_o be_v no_o part_n of_o our_o matter_n it_o may_v be_v even_o for_o the_o same_o cause_n they_o shun_v it_o for_o which_o we_o also_o do_v use_v it_o very_o rare_o and_o wary_o as_o before_o i_o observe_v 136._o pag_n 136._o and_o let_v 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