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A13773 Positions lately held by the L. Du Perron, Bishop of Eureux, against the sufficiency and perfection of the scriptures maintaning the necessitie and authoritie of vnwritten traditions. Verie learnedly answered and confuted by D. Daniell Tillenus, Professor of Diuinitie in the Vniuersitie of Sedan. VVith a defence of the sufficiency and perfection of the holy scriptures by the same author. Faithfully translated. Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633.; Du Perron, Jacques Davy, 1556-1618. Discours sur l'autorité.; Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633. Defence of the sufficiency and perfection of the holy scripture. aut 1606 (1606) STC 24071; ESTC S101997 143,995 256

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allege_v and_o doubtless_o abraham_n before_o he_o circumcise_v his_o family_n instruct_v they_o in_o the_o doctrine_n thereof_o for_o see_v the_o testimony_n that_o god_n give_v of_o he_o 19_o 19_o i_o know_v say_v he_o that_o he_o will_v teach_v his_o child_n and_o his_o household_n to_o observe_v the_o way_n of_o the_o lord_n 7._o 7._o moses_n command_v careful_o to_o instruct_v child_n and_o he_o speak_v ever_o of_o the_o law_n of_o god_n of_o which_o circumcision_n be_v a_o part_n the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr five_o though_o all_o thing_n which_o have_v place_n in_o circumcision_n shall_v have_v their_o corresponcy_n to_o baptism_n yet_o will_v it_o not_o be_v for_o all_o that_o necessary_a that_o it_o be_v a_o correspondency_n of_o identity_n but_o a_o correspondency_n of_o analogy_n will_v suffice_v as_o the_o ceremony_n of_o sour_a herb_n and_o of_o the_o staff_n they_o shall_v hold_v in_o their_o hand_n in_o eat_v the_o paschall_n lamb_n be_v not_o literal_o accomplish_v in_o the_o eucharist_n but_o only_o spiritual_o inasmuch_o as_o we_o eat_v it_o with_o contrition_n and_o bitterness_n for_o our_o fault_n and_o as_o pilgrim_n and_o passenger_n in_o this_o world_n journey_v into_o another_o life_n so_o the_o temporal_a infancy_n to_o which_o circumcision_n be_v apply_v may_v have_v his_o correspondency_n to_o baptism_n only_o in_o the_o spiritual_a infancy_n by_o which_o we_o must_v become_v child_n for_o to_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o the_o say_n of_o our_o saviour_n if_o you_o become_v not_o as_o little_a child_n you_o shall_v not_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o therefore_o to_o those_o that_o be_v already_o hoary_a with_o olld_a age_n they_o do_v not_o stick_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n to_o give_v honey_n and_o milk_n to_o eat_v ad_fw-la significandum_fw-la infantiam_fw-la say_v s._n hierom._n by_o which_o mean_v the_o argument_n will_v hold_v good_a to_o conclude_v thus_o circumcision_n be_v give_v to_o those_o which_o be_v little_a child_n of_o a_o temporal_a infancy_n therefore_o baptism_n may_v be_v give_v to_o those_o that_o be_v little_a child_n of_o a_o spiritual_a infancy_n that_o be_v to_o say_v that_o be_v become_v little_a child_n in_o maliciousness_n as_o say_v saint_n paul_n but_o to_o infer_v circumcision_n be_v give_v to_o little_a child_n of_o temporal_a infancy_n baptism_n therefore_o be_v to_o be_v confer_v to_o those_o that_o be_v little_a child_n after_o the_o same_o manner_n the_o conclusion_n do_v not_o enforce_v and_o therefore_o s._n augustin_n allege_v this_o argument_n make_v account_n only_o of_o it_o as_o of_o a_o conjecture_n d._n tillenus_n his_o answer_n if_o the_o temporal_a infancy_n of_o the_o jewish_a child_n shall_v be_v refer_v only_o to_o the_o spiritual_a infancy_n of_o christian_n the_o reason_n of_o jesus_n christ_n will_v be_v of_o no_o force_n when_o he_o say_v that_o child_n of_o a_o temporal_a infancy_n belong_v unto_o he_o and_o shall_v be_v bring_v unto_o he_o now_o we_o
chance_n some_o water_n be_v cast_v see_v they_o want_v the_o chief_a and_o principal_a condition_n which_o make_v a_o man_n be_v a_o matter_n and_o subject_v capable_a of_o baptism_n namely_o fayth_n that_o they_o that_o be_v baptise_a as_o say_v saint_n paul_n have_v put_v on_o christ_n that_o christ_n can_v be_v put_v on_o out_o of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v call_v the_o fullnes_n of_o christ_n &_o that_o therefore_o baptism_n can_v be_v among_o heretic_n that_o every_o one_o of_o you_o say_v saint_n peter_n be_v baptise_a for_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o creed_n of_o constantinople_n i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n now_o among_o the_o heretic_n there_o be_v no_o remission_n of_o sin_n for_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n and_o by_o consequent_a no_o baptism_n that_o when_o it_o be_v tell_v john_n baptist_n that_o christ_n baptise_a he_o answer_v none_o can_v do_v it_o unless_o it_o be_v give_v he_o from_o heaven_n that_o no_o authority_n be_v give_v from_o heaven_n to_o the_o assembly_n of_o heretic_n and_o therefore_o that_o they_o can_v baptise_v that_o baptism_n be_v do_v by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v not_o resident_a out_o of_o the_o church_n neither_o consequent_o baptism_n d._n tillenus_n his_o answer_n first_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o hearer_n of_o the_o scripture_n learn_v that_o whosoever_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v well_o baptise_a but_o the_o follower_n of_o the_o romish_a tradition_n can_v never_o know_v whether_o they_o be_v well_o baptize_v or_o no_o for_o beside_o this_o instituti_fw-la of_o christ_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n require_v the_o intent_n of_o the_o priest_n without_o which_o the_o sacrament_n with_o they_o be_v none_o now_o there_o be_v no_o man_n that_o can_v be_v full_o assure_v of_o another_o man_n intent_n second_o the_o scripture_n teach_v we_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o outward_a sacrament_n &_o the_o inward_a grace_n which_o be_v not_o enclose_v within_o the_o other_o as_o a_o salve_n in_o a_o box_n as_o the_o romish_a tradition_n teach_v they_o that_o receive_v the_o first_o receive_v not_o always_o the_o latter_a in_o what_o place_n soever_o it_o be_v as_o we_o see_v by_o the_o example_n of_o judas_n &_o simon_n magus_n for_o as_o say_v s._n augustine_n 24_o 〈◊〉_d 5._o the_o ●ont_n 〈◊〉_d 24_o man_n do_v put_v on_o christ_n sometime_o in_o participation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n sometime_o in_o sanctification_n of_o life_n the_o first_o be_v common_a to_o good_a and_o bad_a the_o other_o be_v peculiar_a only_o to_o the_o good_a neither_o heretic_n nor_o orthodoxal_a can_v minister_v any_o thing_n but_o the_o outward_a sacrament_n the_o holy_a ghost_n only_o give_v the_o internal_a grace_n that_o be_v faith_n possession_n of_o christ_n &_o remission_n of_o sin_n all_o which_o be_v manifest_a in_o scripture_n but_o the_o holyghost_n say_v he_o be_v resident_a only_o in_o the_o true_a church_n and_o not_o among_o heretic_n 2._o i_o answer_v the_o scripture_n teach_v we_o that_o the_o spirit_n blow_v where_o it_o list_v if_o it_o be_v always_o tie_v to_o a_o visible_a church_n as_o the_o pope_n to_o his_o seat_n of_o rome_n 8_o ●_o 8_o without_o distribute_v his_o grace_n elsewhere_o which_o be_v du_fw-fr perron_n meaning_n no_o infidel_n nor_o heretic_n bear_v out_o of_o the_o true_a church_n can_v ever_o enter_v thereinto_o by_o regeneration_n by_o which_o grace_n the_o holy_a ghost_n bring_v man_n thereunto_o 17_o 〈◊〉_d 17_o saint_n paul_n persecute_v the_o true_a church_n so_o far_o be_v he_o from_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o same_o &_o receive_v notwithstanding_o the_o holy_a ghost_n out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o to_o speak_v proper_o the_o minister_n that_o give_v baptism_n but_o as_o the_o scripture_n say_v the_o heavenly_a father_n save_v we_o by_o the_o wash_n of_o regeneration_n through_o the_o renew_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 16._o 〈◊〉_d 5._o 5_o 26_o ●_o 1_o 16._o jesus_n christ_n cleanse_v &_o sanctifi_v his_o church_n through_o the_o wash_n of_o water_n in_o his_o word_n and_o as_o the_o word_n of_o the_o gospel_n when_o it_o be_v publish_v according_a to_o the_o revelation_n of_o god_n to_o salvation_n to_o all_o that_o believe_v though_o he_o that_o preach_v it_o do_v it_o of_o evil_a will_n without_o sincerity_n without_o zeal_n of_o envy_n &_o contention_n as_o say_v the_o apostle_n that_o be_v though_o he_o have_v no_o good_a intent_n so_o be_v it_o in_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v a_o visible_a word_n so_o that_o the_o minister_n confer_v it_o according_a to_o the_o lord_n institution_n his_o heresy_n or_o hypocrisy_n can_v hurt_v he_o that_o receive_v it_o for_o the_o question_n be_v not_o what_o be_v require_v in_o a_o pastor_n to_o approve_v his_o ministry_n before_o god_n but_o what_o be_v requisite_a to_o the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o sacrament_n according_a to_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n which_o the_o scripture_n teach_v we_o not_o be_v make_v void_a by_o the_o wickedness_n of_o man_n to_o which_o s_n augustine_n agree_v say_v that_o not_o only_o the_o good_a but_o also_o the_o wicked_a have_v the_o ministry_n to_o baptise_v but_o neither_o of_o they_o both_o have_v the_o power_n of_o baptism_n that_o christ_n have_v commit_v the_o ministry_n thereof_o to_o servant_n but_o reserve_v the_o power_n thereof_o to_o himself_o three_o i_o say_v that_o the_o scripture_n show_v we_o the_o correspondency_n of_o circumcision_n with_o baptism_n 23._o ezech_v 1_o &_o 23._o therefore_o as_o the_o circumcision_n give_v by_o the_o apostate_n of_o samaria_n be_v available_a to_o the_o child_n that_o god_n acknowledge_v for_o his_o there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o reiterate_v it_o so_o as_o the_o samaritan_o do_v reiterate_v that_o which_o have_v be_v administer_v by_o the_o jew_n as_o epiphanius_n witness_v so_o by_o like_a reason_n shall_v not_o baptism_n administer_v by_o a_o heretic_n be_v reiterate_v provide_v that_o he_o keep_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o institution_n the_o prophet_n indeed_o do_v exhort_v the_o samaritan_n to_o repentance_n but_o never_o call_v they_o to_o a_o second_o circumcision_n though_o the_o first_o be_v pollute_v by_o many_o abuse_n &_o superstition_n the_o bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr against_o these_o argument_n with_o great_a appearance_n of_o scripture_n s._n augustine_n who_o 10_o whole_a year_n handle_v this_o question_n against_o the_o donatist_n can_v not_o find_v any_o actual_a and_o demonstratine_a proof_n in_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n in_o this_o point_n and_o can_v oppose_v unto_o they_o no_o other_o thing_n that_o will_v hold_v the_o place_n of_o a_o infallible_a proof_n but_o the_o tradition_n &_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n hoc_fw-la say_v he_o obseruandum_fw-la est_fw-la in_o rebus_fw-la quod_fw-la obseruat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la questio_fw-la autem_fw-la inter_fw-la vos_fw-la &_o nos_fw-la est_fw-la vera_fw-la sit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la ergo_fw-la à_fw-la capite_fw-la sumendum_fw-la exordium_n cur_n schisma_fw-la feceritis_fw-la and_o in_o another_o place_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d proinde_fw-la quamvis_fw-la huius_fw-la rei_fw-la certè_fw-la de_fw-la scripture_n canonicis_fw-la non_fw-la proferatur_fw-la exemplum_fw-la earundem_fw-la tamen_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la re_fw-mi a_o nobis_fw-la tenetur_fw-la veritas_fw-la cum_fw-la hoc_fw-la facimus_fw-la quod_fw-la universae_fw-la iam_fw-la placuit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quam_fw-la ipsarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la commendat_fw-la autoritas_fw-la ut_fw-la quando_fw-la s._n scriptura_fw-la fallere_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la quisquis_fw-la falli_fw-la metuit_fw-la huius_fw-la obscuritate_fw-la quaestionis_fw-la eandem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la de_fw-la illa_fw-la consulat_fw-la quam_fw-la sine_fw-la ulla_fw-la ambiguitate_fw-la s._n scriptura_fw-la demonstrat_fw-la and_o in_o another_o place_n ●on_v bap._n ●on_v sed_fw-la illa_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la quam_fw-la etiam_fw-la tunc_fw-la hominem_fw-la sursum_fw-la versum_fw-la respicientes_fw-la non_fw-la videbant_fw-la â_fw-la posterioribus_fw-la restitutam_fw-la recte_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n tradita_fw-la creditur_fw-la et_fw-la talia_fw-la multa_fw-la sunt_fw-la quae_fw-la longum_fw-la esset_fw-la repetere_fw-la now_o saint_n augustine_n declare_v that_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o donatist_n be_v heretical_a and_o the_o whole_a church_n with_o he_o hold_v the_o donatist_n for_o heretic_n and_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o as_o also_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o either_o the_o catholic_n or_o the_o donatist_n be_v heretic_n for_o if_o baptism_n administer_v by_o heretic_n be_v not_o true_a baptism_n the_o catholic_n which_o receive_v they_o without_o baptise_v they_o do_v violate_v this_o article_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n also_o i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n if_o on_o the_o contrary_a it_o be_v true_a baptism_n the_o donatist_n in_o rebaptise_v they_o and_o reiterate_v and_o multiply_a
the_o most_o ancient_a among_o the_o latin_n distinguish_v in_o express_v term_n the_o temporal_a sabbath_n from_o the_o eternal_a sabbath_n 4._o 〈◊〉_d lib._n 4._o show_v by_o the_o history_n of_o the_o ruin_n of_o jericho_n where_o all_o the_o people_n &_o the_o priest_n themselves_o labour_v 7_o day_n one_o after_o another_o and_o therefore_o the_o sabbath_n be_v there_o in_o comprise_v that_o this_o commandment_n be_v ceremonial_a &_o temporal_a 1_o ●tat_fw-la de_fw-fr ●tem_fw-la rab_n ●n_fw-la tractat_fw-la ●●b_fw-la c._n 1._o &_o ●ractat_fw-la de_fw-la ●umcis_fw-la c._n 1_o yea_o the_o jew_n themselves_o as_o superstitious_a observer_n as_o they_o be_v of_o the_o outward_a ceremony_n of_o the_o sabbath_n nevertheless_o do_v hold_v that_o in_o danger_n of_o life_n the_o law_n of_o the_o sabbath_n may_v be_v break_v and_o these_o word_n be_v find_v in_o their_o thalmud_n danger_n of_o life_n break_v the_o sabbath_n but_o every_o one_o know_v and_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v no_o danger_n can_v excuse_v the_o transgression_n of_o the_o moral_a law_n for_o the_o observation_n whereof_o the_o true_a faithful_a hold_v their_o life_n very_o well_o bestow_v see_v they_o the_o sabbath_n be_v take_v two_o way_n either_o for_o interior_a which_o be_v a_o rest_n from_o our_o evil_a work_n &_o a_o exercise_n &_o meditation_n of_o the_o work_n of_o god_n or_o for_o the_o exterior_a which_o consist_v in_o rest_n &_o cessation_n from_o the_o labour_n &_o business_n which_o concern_v this_o life_n in_o which_o it_o be_v a_o figure_n of_o interior_a sabbath_n the_o promise_n or_o thretning_n which_o god_n make_v to_o such_o as_o keep_v or_o violate_v his_o sabbath_n which_o be_v our_o bishop_n ground_n be_v mean_v more_o of_o the_o first_o 5.8_o 〈◊〉_d 5.8_o they_o of_o the_o 2_o to_o which_o notwithstanding_o the_o jew_n be_v bind_v as_o to_o all_o the_o other_o leviticall_a ceremony_n from_o which_o yoke_n christian_n be_v whole_o free_v their_o sabbath_n be_v interior_a 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