5._o quaest_n 5._o be_v 1._o there_o be_v principle_n plain_o lay_v down_o in_o scripture_n which_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o many_o other_o article_n as_o of_o two_o nature_n and_o one_o person_n in_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o child_n &c_n &c_n and_o of_o many_o other_o doctrine_n not_o express_o write_v and_o yet_o firm_o draw_v from_o scripture_n such_o aâ—e_n many_o other_o point_n as_o that_o of_o the_o consubstantiality_n 126_o reply_v pag._n 126_o of_o the_o son_n with_o the_o father_n the_o proceed_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n as_o from_o one_o beginning_n that_o the_o father_n be_v unbegotten_a 12._o these_o three_o point_n which_o concern_v the_o glorious_a trinity_n father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n we_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v article_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o to_o be_v write_v though_o not_o formal_o yet_o virtual_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o it_o may_v be_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o contention_n move_v the_o jesuite_n to_o strive_v about_o the_o form_n of_o word_n and_o not_o about_o the_o form_n of_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o those_o word_n unbegotten_a consubstantial_a &c_n &c_n s._n augustine_n dispute_v about_o the_o same_o word_n say_v 174._o say_v quid_fw-la enim_fw-la contentiosive_n quam_fw-la ubi_fw-la dâ—re_fw-la constat_fw-la certare_fw-la de_fw-la nomine_fw-la august_n ad_fw-la pascent_fw-la arian_n epist_n 174._o what_o be_v contention_n if_o this_o be_v not_o to_o strive_v about_o word_n when_o we_o agree_v about_o the_o thing_n the_o word_n themselves_o be_v not_o the_o point_n of_o faith_n the_o church_n believe_v the_o same_o point_n of_o faith_n before_o the_o same_o word_n be_v use_v but_o the_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o those_o word_n be_v the_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o if_o he_o will_v say_v the_o doctrine_n be_v not_o write_v because_o the_o word_n be_v not_o write_v he_o may_v aswell_o say_v the_o trinity_n of_o person_n and_o the_o 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word_n which_o be_v aquivalent_a unto_o they_o in_o scripture_n although_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o contain_v these_o same_o word_n that_o of_o the_o consubstantiality_n of_o the_o son_n with_o the_o father_n be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n by_o tertullian_n in_o a_o praxâ—am_fw-la a_o tertul._n adâ—_n praxâ—am_fw-la treatise_n write_v for_o that_o purpose_n â—_o purpose_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d theodor_n dialog_n â—_o for_o this_o we_o will_v produce_v demonstration_n out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n say_v theodor._n â—_o dispute_v against_o arius_n concern_v this_o point_n 5._o point_n quomo_n â—o_o dicis_fw-la in_o scripture_n homoousion_n non_fw-la inveniâ—i_fw-la quasi_fw-la aliud_fw-la â—it_n homoousion_n quam_fw-la quod_fw-la dicit_fw-la ego_fw-la de_fw-la patre_fw-la exivi_fw-la et_fw-la ego_fw-la &_o pater_fw-la unum_fw-la sumus_fw-la ambrosâ—_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la cont_n arianâ—_n c._n 5._o how_o do_v thou_o say_v say_v ambrose_n the_o word_n consubstantial_a be_v not_o find_v in_o the_o scripture_n as_o if_o consubstantial_a be_v any_o thing_n but_o this_o i_o come_v forth_o from_o the_o father_n and_o i_o and_o the_o father_n be_v one_o joh_n one_o adverâ—us_fw-la impietatem_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la paâ—res_fw-la novum_fw-la nomen_fw-la condiderunt_fw-la homoousion_n sed_fw-la non_fw-la rem_fw-la novam_fw-la tali_fw-la nomine_fw-la signaverunt_fw-la hoc_fw-la enim_fw-la voco_fw-la homoousion_n quod_fw-la est_fw-la ego_fw-la &_o pater_fw-la unum_fw-la sumus_fw-la unius_fw-la videlicet_fw-la ejusdenque_fw-la substantiae_fw-la august_n tract_n 97._o in_o joh_n to_o cross_v the_o impiety_n of_o the_o heretic_n the_o father_n invent_v a_o new_a word_n consubstantial_a but_o that_o new_a word_n signify_v no_o new_a thing_n for_o consubstantial_a and_o this_o be_v all_o one_o i_o and_o the_o father_n be_v one_o to_o wit_v one_o in_o substance_n say_v s._n augustine_n and_o he_o urge_v the_o arian_n to_o consider_v this_o 174._o this_o august_n epist_n 174._o if_o any_o where_n in_o scripture_n they_o can_v find_v two_o call_v one_o who_o be_v not_o one_o in_o substance_n and_o again_o he_o provoke_v they_o to_o try_v this_o point_n not_o by_o any_o 14._o any_o august_n count_v maximin_n l._n 3._o c_o 14._o council_n but_o by_o scripture_n and_o bellarmine_n tell_v we_o he_o have_v good_a reason_n to_o do_v so_o 11._o so_o quia_fw-la in_o illis_fw-la quâ—â—ionibus_fw-la exstabant_fw-la in_o scripture_n clarisâ—ima_fw-la testimonia_fw-la bellarm_n de_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 4._o c_o 11._o because_o in_o that_o question_n the_o scripture_n afford_v most_o evident_a testimony_n that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n proceed_v from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n s._n augustine_n in_o sundry_a place_n prove_v it_o by_o the_o scripture_n 27._o scripture_n cum_fw-la per_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la sacraruâ—_n testimonia_fw-la docuissem_fw-la de_fw-fr urroâ—_n procedere_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la august_n 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by_o undeniable_a consequence_n it_o be_v gather_v out_o of_o scripture_n petrus_n damianus_n use_v this_o argument_n 1._o argument_n cum_fw-la filius_fw-la dicit_fw-la ego_fw-la &_o pater_fw-la unum_fw-la sumus_fw-la quomodo_fw-la potest_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sanctus_n ab_fw-la eo_fw-la quod_fw-la unum_fw-la est_fw-la &_o procedere_fw-la &_o non_fw-la procedere_fw-la pet_n damian_n l._n 3._o epist_n 1._o see_v the_o son_n say_v i_o and_o the_o father_n be_v one_o how_o can_v the_o holy_a ghost_n proceed_v from_o that_o which_o be_v one_o and_o likewise_o not_o proceed_v 2._o proceed_v melch_n canus_n locorum_fw-la l._n â—_o c._n 2._o melchiâ—r_n canus_n reckon_v this_o among_o those_o thing_n which_o without_o loss_n of_o salvation_n may_v be_v leave_v doubtful_a and_o a_o man_n may_v be_v ignorant_a of_o and_o it_o be_v the_o last_o article_n of_o faith_n reveal_v to_o the_o church_n yet_o not_o by_o unwritten_a tradition_n but_o by_o firm_a consequence_n out_o of_o the_o write_a word_n that_o the_o father_n be_v unbegotten_a be_v likewise_o a_o write_a doctrine_n for_o though_o the_o word_n unbegotten_a be_v not_o write_v yet_o the_o doctrine_n teach_v we_o by_o that_o word_n be_v write_v and_o we_o dispute_v not_o of_o word_n but_o of_o doctrine_n that_o the_o mother_n of_o god_n remain_v a_o perpetual_a virgin_n â—â—6_n reply_v pag._n â—â—6_n 13._o we_o say_v with_o s._n augustine_n 36._o augustine_n august_n de_fw-fr nature_n &_o great_a c._n 36._o we_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o move_v any_o question_n about_o the_o mother_n of_o god_n for_o the_o honour_n we_o bear_v unto_o her_o son_n but_o see_v we_o must_v declare_v what_o we_o think_v we_o think_v she_o to_o be_v a_o bless_a virgin_n because_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o teach_v the_o contrary_a and_o because_o we_o be_v command_v to_o hold_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v of_o 8._o of_o phil_n 4._o 8._o good_a report_n if_o it_o be_v a_o unwritten_a tradition_n then_o s._n ambrose_n be_v mistake_v 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charactere_fw-la because_o of_o the_o most_o solid_a reply_n reply_n and_o most_o manifest_a testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o one_o of_o your_o own_o have_v say_v â—_o say_v â—â—â—videar_fw-la humanis_fw-la argumentis_fw-la id_fw-la agere_fw-la etc_n ex_fw-la â—vangelio_fw-la profero_fw-la certa_fw-la documâ—â—â—â—a_fw-la aug._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr bapt._n â—ont_n donat._n c._n â—_o lest_o i_o shall_v seem_v to_o deal_v in_o this_o only_a by_o humane_a argument_n say_v s._n augustine_n i_o will_v bring_v most_o sure_a argument_n out_o of_o the_o gospel_n and_o in_o the_o word_n follow_v he_o bring_v in_o this_o text._n 50._o text._n luc._n 9_o 50._o forbid_v he_o not_o for_o he_o that_o be_v not_o against_o we_o be_v with_o we_o by_o which_o he_o overthrow_v the_o main_a argument_n of_o the_o adverse_a party_n who_o hold_v that_o the_o thing_n of_o christ_n can_v not_o be_v have_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o this_o question_n whether_o it_o be_v better_a to_o baptise_v or_o not_o to_o baptise_v such_o he_o have_v these_o word_n 14._o word_n recurrens_fw-la ad_fw-la illam_fw-la stateram_fw-la dominicam_fw-la ubi_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la humano_fw-la sensu_fw-la sed_fw-la authoritate_fw-la divinà _fw-la return_n momenta_fw-la pensantur_fw-la invenio_fw-la de_fw-la â—â—raque_fw-la te_fw-la domini_fw-la sententiam_fw-la aug._n l._n 2._o the_o bapt_a count_v donat_n c._n 14._o look_v to_o the_o divine_a measure_n that_o be_v the_o scripture_n whereby_o thing_n be_v measure_v by_o divine_a authority_n and_o not_o by_o humane_a opinion_n i_o find_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o lord_n concern_v both_o and_o he_o conclude_v this_o question_n with_o these_o word_n 7._o word_n perspectis_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la testimonijs_fw-la potest_fw-la etiam_fw-la dici_fw-la quod_fw-la veritas_fw-la declaravit_fw-la hoc_fw-la sequimur_fw-la aug._n l._n 4._o the_o bapt_a count_v donat._n c_o 7._o have_v search_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n i_o may_v say_v we_o follow_v that_o which_o the_o truth_n declare_v thus_o it_o appear_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o s._n augustine_n that_o the_o point_n of_o doctrine_n be_v write_v although_o for_o point_n of_o practice_n we_o read_v nothing_o in_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o apostle_n 7._o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v and_o that_o the_o father_n be_v unbegotten_a and_o unborn_a i_o believe_v those_o as_o the_o article_n of_o my_o faith_n but_o i_o will_v never_o believe_v he_o that_o say_v 3._o say_v aug._n count_v maximinum_n l._n 3._o c._n 3._o s._n augustine_n hold_v they_o to_o be_v unwritten_a article_n these_o word_n the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v the_o father_n be_v unbegotten_a i_o confess_v be_v not_o write_v verbatim_o yet_o there_o be_v other_o word_n write_v which_o do_v import_v the_o same_o and_o be_v equivalent_a unto_o they_o and_o may_v we_o not_o understand_v some_o word_n which_o we_o read_v not_o out_o of_o those_o word_n which_o we_o read_v say_v s._n augustine_n 1._o augustine_n in_o verbis_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la evangeliuâ—_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o sensu_fw-la hicroâ—â—m_fw-la in_o galat._n c._n 1._o the_o word_n be_v not_o the_o gospel_n but_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n be_v the_o gospel_n say_v s._n hierome_n so_o i_o 119_o reply_v pag._n 119_o may_v say_v the_o form_n of_o word_n be_v not_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n but_o the_o thing_n signify_v by_o those_o word_n else_o the_o church_n believe_v not_o these_o two_o article_n until_o this_o form_n of_o word_n be_v ibidem_fw-la be_v quasi_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la ijs_fw-la quae_fw-la legimus_fw-la aliqua_fw-la etiam_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la legimus_fw-la intelligamus_fw-la aug._n ibidem_fw-la use_v the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v the_o father_n be_v unborn_a as_o for_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n signify_v by_o these_o word_n the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v s._n augustine_n proove_v it_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n in_o which_o it_o be_v write_v in_o a_o other_o form_n of_o word_n â—1_n word_n glorificate_n ergo_fw-la deum_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la vestro_fw-la ubi_fw-la delucidè_fw-la ostend_v it_o deum_fw-la esse_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la glorificandum_fw-la scilicet_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la nostro_fw-la aug._n count_v maxim_n l._n 3._o c._n â—1_n glorify_v therefore_o god_n in_o your_o body_n this_o evident_o declare_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v god_n and_o that_o he_o must_v be_v glorify_v in_o our_o body_n say_v s._n augustine_n and_o again_o 66._o again_o glorifieate_v deum_n &_o portate_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la vestro_fw-la quem_fw-la deum_fw-la nisi_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la cujus_fw-la corpora_fw-la nostra_fw-la dixerit_fw-la esse_fw-la templum_fw-la aug._n epist_n 66._o glorify_v god_n in_o your_o body_n who_o do_v he_o mean_v but_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o temple_n he_o call_v our_o body_n and_o concern_v the_o word_n coessential_a unbegotten_a and_o the_o like_a he_o say_v 174._o say_v etiasi_fw-la vocabula_fw-la ista_fw-la ibi_fw-la non_fw-la inveniuntur_fw-la fieri_fw-la potest_fw-la ut_fw-la illud_fw-la inveniamus_fw-la cvi_fw-la haec_fw-la vocabula_fw-la rectè_fw-la adhibita_fw-la indicentur_fw-la aug._n epist_n 174._o although_o those_o word_n be_v not_o find_v in_o scripture_n yet_o we_o may_v find_v that_o which_o be_v intend_v by_o those_o word_n this_o than_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o s._n augustine_n that_o the_o doctrine_n signify_v by_o those_o word_n be_v write_v in_o other_o word_n although_o those_o word_n themselves_o be_v not_o write_v and_o as_o s._n augustine_n answer_v pascentius_n the_o arian_n so_o i_o may_v answer_v the_o jesuite_n ibidem_fw-la jesuite_n quid_fw-la contentiosius_fw-la est_fw-la quam_fw-la ubi_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la constat_fw-la certare_fw-la de_fw-la nomine_fw-la aug._n ibidem_fw-la what_o be_v more_o contentious_a then_o to_o strive_v about_o word_n when_o the_o thing_n 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troth_n or_o amble_v the_o holy_a scripture_n answer_n answer_n say_v s._n luâ—an_n s._n cyril_n l._n 7._o cont_n luâ—an_n cyrill_n of_o alexandria_n be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v they_o which_o be_v bring_v up_o in_o it_o wise_a and_o most_o approve_a and_o furnish_v with_o sufficient_a understanding_n and_o again_o that_o which_o the_o holy_a scripture_n have_v not_o say_v by_o what_o mean_n shall_v we_o receive_v and_o account_v it_o among_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v true_a s._n cyrill_n as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n under_o the_o 145_o reply_v pag._n 145_o name_n of_o scripture_n comprehendâ—th_v always_o unwritten_a tradition_n 14._o sure_o the_o sea_n make_v his_o brain_n addle_n he_o go_v far_o to_o suck_v a_o bull_n and_o here_o be_v a_o bull_n indeed_o he_o may_v aswell_o sâ—â—_n by_o a_o man_n be_v mean_v a_o bull_n or_o under_o a_o man_n be_v comprehend_v a_o bull_n as_o to_o say_v under_o scripture_n the_o faiber_n always_o comprehend_v unwritten_a tradition_n 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by_o these_o heretic_n as_o for_o unwritren_a tradition_n doctrine_n not_o teach_v in_o scripture_n but_o deliver_v by_o word_n of_o mouth_n they_o reject_v they_o not_o they_o lay_v the_o foundation_n and_o upon_o their_o foundation_n you_o have_v build_v this_o pillar_n of_o your_o religion_n this_o tower_n and_o fort_n of_o your_o salvation_n this_o be_v not_o only_o discover_v by_o irenaeâ—â—_n and_o tertullian_n but_o likewise_o i_o may_v add_v s._n augustine_n who_o declare_v this_o to_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o all_o heretic_n joh._n heretic_n aug._n tract_n 97._o in_o joh._n all_o of_o the_o most_o foolish_a heretic_n use_v to_o colour_v their_o bold_a fiction_n with_o this_o say_n i_o have_v yet_o many_o thing_n to_o say_v unto_o you_o and_o this_o very_a text_n the_o jesuite_n 119._o jesuite_n pag._n 119._o likewise_o use_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n to_o colour_v this_o bold_a fiction_n of_o unwritten_a tradition_n therewith_o thus_o the_o heretic_n yea_o omnes_fw-la 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