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A16161 The Protestants evidence taken out of good records; shewing that for fifteene hundred yeares next after Christ, divers worthy guides of Gods Church, have in sundry weightie poynts of religion, taught as the Church of England now doth: distributed into severall centuries, and opened, by Simon Birckbek ... Birckbek, Simon, 1584-1656. 1635 (1635) STC 3083; ESTC S102067 458,065 496

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nothing_o remain_v but_o the_o outward_a form_n and_o accident_n of_o bread_n reply_n bellarmin_n respo●deo_fw-la say_v that_o this_o epistle_n be_v not_o extant_a among_o saint_n chrysostome_n work_n and_o when_o peter_n martyr_v object_v this_o place_n to_o stephen_n gardiner_n bishop_n of_o winchester_n the_o bishop_n reply_v 368._o that_o it_o be_v none_o of_o chrysostom_n but_o another_o john_n of_o constantinople_n rejoynder_n what_o though_o it_o be_v not_o then_o extant_a diverse_a parcel_n of_o chrysostome_n have_v be_v late_o find_v out_o and_o annex_v to_o his_o other_o work_n beside_o the_o same_o bishop_n gardiner_n report_v 116._o that_o peter_n martyr_n say_v that_o this_o treatise_n of_o chrysostome_n be_v extant_a in_o a_o manuscript_n and_o find_v in_o the_o library_n at_o florence_n and_o that_o a_o copy_n thereof_o remain_v in_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n hand_n again_o they_o that_o will_v father_n t●is_fw-la treatise_n on_o another_o the●_n must_v 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