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A15082 A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of DivĀ· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit* White, Francis, 1564?-1638.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Baylie, Richard, b. 1585 or 6, attributed name.; Cockson, Thomas, engraver.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 25382; ESTC S122241 841,497 706

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conclusion_n you_o give_v we_o that_o which_o be_v worst_a john_n 2._o 8._o the_o antecedent_n or_o lead_v part_n of_o your_o argument_n be_v dubious_a and_o the_o consequence_n also_o be_v infirm_a first_o you_o be_v not_o able_a to_o prove_v out_o of_o the_o text_n act._n 2.42_o or_o luk._n 24.30_o that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n in_o those_o place_n administer_v the_o holy_a communion_n for_o there_o may_v be_v prayer_n and_o break_n of_o bread_n and_o yet_o no_o sacrament_n 1._o tim._n 4._o v._n 3.4.5_o also_o the_o place_n act._n 2._o 42._o may_v be_v understand_v of_o deal_v bread_n by_o eleemosinarie_a dole_n to_o the_o poor_a and_o although_o some_o of_o the_o father_n apply_v these_o scripture_n to_o the_o eucharist_n according_a to_o the_o mystical_a sense_n yet_o other_o father_n be_v contrary_a pasch._n yea_o many_o pontifician_n fide_fw-la expound_v these_o text_n of_o common_a food_n or_o bread_n and_o not_o of_o the_o eucharist_n but_o if_o the_o first_o 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the_o uttermost_a of_o their_o force_n but_o accept_v a_o possible_a measure_n and_o latitude_n of_o true_a and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 16._o consist_v of_o faith_n and_o charity_n gal._n 5.6_o yet_o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o the_o high_a degree_n of_o obedience_n a_o thing_n adiaphorous_a and_o of_o right_a not_o due_a but_o serve_v both_o to_o declare_v the_o riches_n of_o god_n mercy_n in_o pardon_v our_o offence_n and_o also_o to_o humble_v we_o before_o he_o in_o the_o recognition_n of_o our_o unworthiness_n s._n bernard_n confession_n have_v these_o word_n he_o have_v therefore_o 〈◊〉_d his_o 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v observe_v 〈◊〉_d or_o to_o the_o full_a that_o we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o fall_v short_a and_o find_v that_o we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o 〈◊〉_d that_o which_o we_o 〈◊〉_d may_v 〈◊〉_d to_o his_o mercy_n and_o say_v thy_o 〈◊〉_d be_v better_a 〈◊〉_d life_n and_o because_o we_o be_v not_o able_a to_o appear_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d we_o may_v appear_v in_o the_o vesture_n of_o 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purpose_n haimo_n and_o venerable_a bede_n affirm_v that_o some_o man_n do_v that_o by_o vow_n or_o voluntary_a choice_n to_o wit_n in_o some_o particular_a action_n which_o they_o be_v not_o oblige_v unto_o by_o strict_a precept_n and_o that_o at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n they_o themselves_o not_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n shall_v reap_v the_o benefit_n hereof_o to_o wit_n a_o accessory_a augmentation_n of_o bliss_n but_o from_o a_o partial_a supererogation_n to_o a_o total_a and_o general_a it_o follow_v not_o for_o if_o a_o man_n which_o be_v oblige_v to_o work_v eight_o hour_n every_o day_n by_o the_o space_n of_o a_o month_n and_o that_o according_a to_o a_o certain_a perfection_n of_o workmanship_n shall_v for_o two_o or_o three_o day_n work_n ten_o hour_n and_o exceed_v the_o manner_n of_o workmanship_n enjoin_v he_o and_o then_o again_o fail_v other_o twenty_o whole_a day_n both_o in_o time_n and_o manner_n it_o may_v be_v say_v of_o this_o man_n that_o he_o do_v exceed_v 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prohibentur_fw-la sed_fw-la sicut_fw-la expedit_fw-la potius_fw-la tractanda_fw-la sunt_fw-la non_fw-la praescripto_fw-la legis_fw-la sed_fw-la concilio_n charitatis_fw-la haec_fw-la sunt_fw-la quae_fw-la amplius_fw-la supererogantur_fw-la saucio_fw-la qui_fw-la curandus_fw-la ad_fw-la stabulum_fw-la samaritani_n miseratione_n perductus_fw-la est_fw-la optatus_n milevitanus_fw-la in_o the_o year_n 370._o parmen_fw-la sed_fw-la qui_fw-la saucium_fw-la come_v daverat_fw-la se_fw-la promiserat_fw-la redditurum_fw-la quicquid_fw-la in_o curam_fw-la amplius_fw-la erogasset_fw-la post_fw-la impensos_fw-la duos_fw-la denarios_fw-la non_fw-la praecepta_fw-la sed_fw-la concilium_fw-la erogat_fw-la paulus_n nec_fw-la impedimentum_fw-la est_fw-la voluntati_fw-la nec_fw-la nolentes_fw-la impellit_fw-la aut_fw-la cogit_fw-la qui_fw-la dederit_fw-la inquit_fw-la virginem_fw-la svam_fw-la bene_fw-la facit_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la non_fw-la dederit_fw-la melius_fw-la facit_fw-la haec_fw-la sunt_fw-la verba_fw-la concilij_fw-la nec_fw-la sunt_fw-la ulla_fw-la praecepta_fw-la coniuncta_fw-la s._n hierome_n plus_fw-fr amat_fw-la christus_fw-la 1._o virgin_n quia_fw-la sponte_fw-la tribuunt_fw-la quod_fw-la sibi_fw-la non_fw-la fuerat_fw-la impetratum_fw-la maiorisque_fw-la gratiae_fw-la est_fw-la offer_n quod_fw-la non_fw-la debeas_fw-la quam_fw-la reddere_fw-la quod_fw-la exigaris_fw-la s._n chrysostome_n poenit._n nequaquam_fw-la dominum_fw-la incuses_fw-la haud_fw-la mandat_fw-la impossibilia_fw-la multi_fw-la rpsa_fw-la superant_fw-la mandata_fw-la s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n 3._o in_o legibus_fw-la noftris_fw-la alia_fw-la parendi_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la imponunt_fw-la nec_fw-la sine_fw-la periculo_fw-la praetermitti_fw-la possunt_fw-la alia_fw-la non_fw-la necessitate_v constringunt_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o arbitrio_fw-la &_o voluntate_fw-la posita_fw-la sunt_fw-la ac_fw-la proinde_fw-la hanc_fw-la rationem_fw-la habent_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la ea_fw-la custodierint_fw-la praemijs_fw-la &_o honore_fw-la afficiantur_fw-la qui_fw-la autem_fw-la minus_fw-la ea_fw-la expleverint_fw-la nihil_fw-la periculi_fw-la per_fw-la timescant_fw-la s._n cyprian_n non_fw-la iubet_fw-la virginitatem_fw-la dominus_fw-la finem_fw-la sed_fw-la hortatur_fw-la nec_fw-la iugum_fw-la necessitatis_fw-la imponit_fw-la quando_fw-la maneat_fw-la voluntatis_fw-la arbitrium_fw-la liberum_fw-la origen_n rom._n ea_fw-la quae_fw-la supra_fw-la debitum_fw-la facimus_fw-la non_fw-la facimus_fw-la ex_fw-la praecepto_fw-la verbi_fw-la causa_fw-la virginitas_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la debito_fw-la soluitur_fw-la sed_fw-la supra_fw-la debitum_fw-la offertur_fw-la i_o will_v not_o bring_v more_o proof_n of_o this_o doctrine_n out_o of_o scripture_n which_o the_o father_n i_o cite_v prove_v by_o the_o word_n 25._o of_o s._n paul_n in_o express_a term_n affirm_v that_o there_o be_v beside_o precept_n work_n of_o supererogation_n or_o counsel_n de_fw-fr virginibus_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la domini_fw-la non_fw-la habeo_fw-la sed_fw-la consilium_fw-la do_v nor_o will_v i_o allege_v more_o testimony_n of_o father_n which_o may_v be_v produce_v in_o great_a number_n most_o plain_a and_o pregnant_a only_o i_o can_v omit_v one_o place_n of_o s._n ambrose_n who_o deliver_v this_o doctrine_n do_v together_o medium_n answer_v a_o protestant_n vulgar_a objection_n against_o it_o itaque_fw-la qui_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la impleverint_fw-la possunt_fw-la dicere_fw-la serui_fw-la inutiles_fw-la sumus_fw-la quod_fw-la debuimus_fw-la facere_fw-la fecimus_fw-la hoc_fw-la virgo_fw-la non_fw-la dicit_fw-la non_fw-la dicit_fw-la qui_fw-la bona_fw-la sua_fw-la vendidit_fw-la sed_fw-la 10._o quasi_fw-la repofita_n expectat_fw-la praemia_fw-la sicut_fw-la sanctus_fw-la apostolus_fw-la ait_fw-la ecce_fw-la nos_fw-la reliquimus_fw-la omne_fw-la &_o secuti_fw-la sumus_fw-la 17._o te_fw-la quid_fw-la ergo_fw-la erit_fw-la nobis_fw-la sunt_fw-la enim_fw-la spadones_fw-la quise_z 12._o castraverunt_fw-la propter_fw-la regnum_fw-la coelorum_fw-la sed_fw-la hoc_fw-la non_fw-la omnibus_fw-la imperatur_fw-la sed_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la flaguatur_fw-la virgo_fw-la provocatur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d non_fw-la vinculis_fw-la alligatur_fw-la sed_fw-la nec_fw-la vidua_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la accipit_fw-la sed_fw-la consilium_fw-la what_o can_v be_v more_o clear_o speak_v for_o work_n of_o supererogation_n or_o counsel_n answer_n if_o you_o have_v examine_v the_o place_n of_o gregory_n imperatur_fw-la you_o may_v have_v perceive_v that_o he_o divide_v divine_a precept_n into_o general_a or_o common_a precept_n and_o into_o personal_a and_o special_a and_o the_o word_n which_o you_o allege_v pare_n off_o the_o rest_n because_o they_o make_v against_o you_o wherein_o he_o say_v that_o they_o which_o be_v not_o judge_v and_o reign_v math._n 19.27_o 28._o do_v transcend_v the_o precept_n of_o the_o law_n by_o the_o perfection_n of_o their_o virtue_n etc._n etc._n be_v understand_v by_o he_o of_o general_a and_o common_a precept_n which_o oblige_v all_o people_n and_o not_o potuerunt_fw-la of_o special_a commandment_n but_o where_o a_o man_n be_v oblige_v by_o any_o commandment_n general_a or_o special_a there_o be_v no_o supererogation_n and_o that_o saint_n gregory_n be_v far_o from_o maintain_v work_n of_o supererogation_n appear_v by_o his_o perpetual_a and_o constant_a doctrine_n concern_v the_o defect_n and_o imperfection_n of_o man_n righteousness_n penitential_a and_o his_o renounce_v all_o confidence_n in_o his_o own_o worthiness_n and_o desert_n spero_fw-la the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n to_o wit_n fulgentius_n paulinus_n st._n augustine_n optatus_n st._n hierom_n st._n chrysostome_n gregory_n nazianzen_n st._n cyprian_n origen_n and_o st._n ambrose_n mention_n work_v of_o counsel_n and_o one_o of_o they_o say_v it_o be_v possible_a to_o do_v more_o than_o be_v command_v but_o this_o father_n speak_v not_o thus_o in_o respect_n of_o all_o the_o commandment_n of_o
〈◊〉_d sin_n after_o baptism_n be_v renew_v by_o the_o virtue_n of_o repentance_n convertimur_fw-la luc._n 22._o 62._o but_o it_o be_v erroneous_a that_o there_o be_v two_o distinct_a kind_n of_o repentance_n one_o before_o and_o the_o other_o after_o baptism_n the_o one_o a_o virtue_n only_o the_o other_o both_o a_o sacrament_n and_o a_o virtue_n for_o where_o there_o be_v the_o same_o definition_n there_o be_v also_o the_o same_o thing_n in_o kind_n but_o repentance_n before_o and_o after_o baptism_n have_v the_o same_o definition_n and_o integrall_a part_n to_o wit_n contrition_n for_o sin_n commit_v confession_n to_o god_n and_o if_o need_v require_v confession_n to_o man_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o fault_n amendment_n of_o life_n and_o humble_a supplication_n by_o prayer_n of_o faith_n for_o reconciliation_n with_o god_n and_o for_o remission_n of_o sin_n matth._n 3.6_o luc._n 3.10_o act._n 3._o 19_o &_o cap._n 8.22_o &_o cap._n 26.20_o also_o the_o grace_n and_o promise_v of_o remission_n be_v make_v to_o repentance_n before_o and_o after_o baptism_n act._n 3._o 19_o &_o 5.31_o &_o 8.22_o apoc._n 2._o 5._o 16._o and_o if_o repentance_n before_o baptism_n be_v no_o sacrament_n what_o cause_v it_o to_o be_v such_o after_o baptism_n for_o no_o visible_a element_n or_o sign_n be_v add_v neither_o be_v any_o promise_n of_o a_o different_a kind_n from_o the_o former_a annex_v and_o although_o the_o apostle_n 1._o cor._n 5.3_o &_o 2._o cor._n 2_o 3._o etc._n etc._n &_o cap._n 7.8_o and_o also_o the_o primitive_a church_n lapsis_fw-la urge_v a_o strict_a manner_n and_o degree_n of_o humiliation_n upon_o notorious_a delinquent_n after_o baptism_n than_o before_o yet_o this_o discipline_n change_v not_o the_o kind_n or_o substance_n of_o repentance_n but_o increase_v only_o the_o quantity_n and_o measure_n thereof_o jesuit_fw-la four_o the_o roman_a church_n hold_v that_o god_n by_o penance_n forgive_a the_o eternal_a punishment_n do_v in_o lieu_n 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thing_n and_o the_o word_n answer_n when_o god_n pardon_v a_o sinner_n he_o do_v it_o not_o by_o way_n of_o exchange_n or_o parcel_a but_o remit_v all_o punishment_n of_o malediction_n or_o pure_a revenge_n est_fw-la for_o that_o which_o be_v so_o forgive_v as_o that_o after_o pardon_v it_o be_v not_o mention_v or_o remember_v and_o which_o be_v cast_v behind_o god_n back_n and_o throw_v into_o the_o bottom_n of_o the_o sea_n and_o which_o can_v no_o where_o be_v find_v and_o be_v blot_v out_o of_o the_o debt-book_n of_o the_o almighty_a be_v not_o take_v away_o by_o commutation_n of_o a_o great_a punishment_n into_o a_o less_o but_o by_o a_o free_a and_o full_a condonation_n of_o all_o vindictive_a punishment_n but_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o the_o primitive_a father_n teach_v such_o a_o remission_n of_o sin_n on_o god_n part_n to_o the_o penitent_a ezech._n 18.22_o esa._n 38._o 17._o &_o ca._n 43._o 25._o &_o 44._o 22._o mich._n 7.19_o jer._n 50.20_o heb._n 8._o 12._o &_o 10._o 17._o col._n 2._o 14._o matth._n 18.32_o s._n augustine_n ignoscere_fw-la if_o god_n have_v cover_v sin_n he_o will_v not_o observe_v he_o will_v not_o think_v upon_o they_o to_o punish_v they_o he_o will_v not_o take_v knowledge_n but_o rather_o pardon_n gregory_n 18._o the_o great_a ignoscendo_fw-la impunita_fw-la relinquit_fw-la by_o pardon_v he_o leave_v they_o unpunished_a cassiodorus_n 84._o remittere_fw-la est_fw-la debitum_fw-la relaxare_fw-la non_fw-la causae_fw-la alicuius_fw-la interuentu_fw-la sed_fw-la pietatis_fw-la intuitu_fw-la to_o remit_v be_v to_o release_v the_o debt_n not_o by_o intercourse_n of_o any_o cause_n on_o man_n part_n but_o by_o aspect_n of_o piety_n nevertheless_o after_o great_a and_o enormous_a offence_n commit_v by_o his_o people_n god_n do_v chastise_v they_o deus_fw-la with_o the_o rod_n of_o correction_n psal._n 89._o 33._o 1._o cor._n 11._o 31_o 32._o and_o this_o correction_n be_v a_o pain_n of_o castigation_n lament_v jerem._n 3.39_o but_o not_o a_o punishment_n of_o malediction_n 〈◊〉_d galath_n 3._o 13._o a_o work_n of_o god_n mercy_n rather_o than_o of_o his_o justice._n the_o difference_n between_o pontifician_n and_o we_o in_o this_o doctrine_n be_v that_o we_o believe_v a_o remainder_n of_o temporal_a affliction_n after_o remission_n of_o the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n in_o this_o life_n only_o and_o that_o for_o chastisement_n virtutem_fw-la erudition_n and_o probation_n they_o maintain_v a_o remainder_n of_o temporal_a punishment_n after_o sin_n remit_v not_o only_o in_o this_o present_a life_n but_o after_o the_o same_o in_o purgatory_n further_o we_o believe_v that_o the_o affliction_n or_o pain_n of_o chastisement_n inflict_v upon_o penitent_a sinner_n may_v by_o prayer_n of_o faith_n exercise_n of_o virtue_n humiliation_n and_o mortification_n be_v either_o remove_v or_o else_o mitigate_v and_o convert_v to_o the_o increase_n of_o grace_n and_o glory_n in_o those_o which_o with_o patience_n and_o holiness_n endure_v the_o same_o in_o this_o life_n but_o we_o deny_v either_o that_o any_o pain_n follow_v just_a person_n after_o their_o decease_n or_o that_o in_o this_o life_n they_o can_v by_o prayer_n mortification_n or_o any_o good_a work_n merit_n release_n of_o any_o temporal_a mulct_n or_o satisfy_v the_o divine_a justice_n for_o the_o least_o fault_n or_o guilt_n of_o any_o sin_n on_o their_o own_o behalf_n much_o less_o for_o other_o and_o whereas_o the_o jesuit_n affirm_v that_o he_o can_v produce_v testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n in_o great_a number_n both_o for_o our_o necessity_n of_o suffer_v voluntary_a affliction_n and_o also_o for_o the_o efficacitie_n thereof_o to_o expiate_v sin_n and_o to_o satisfy_v i_o answer_v first_o that_o the_o father_n and_o holy_a scripture_n require_v work_n of_o humiliation_n and_o mortification_n not_o as_o meritorious_a but_o only_o as_o mean_n and_o cause_n impetrant_fw-la or_o deprecant_fw-la to_o appease_v god_n wrath_n for_o sin_n second_o the_o father_n understand_v not_o the_o word_n satisfaction_n strict_o and_o in_o rigour_n for_o satisfaction_n of_o condignity_n as_o romist_n do_v remissionem_fw-la but_o improper_o and_o large_o to_o wit_n for_o satisfaction_n of_o deprecation_n congruity_n or_o impetration_n and_o according_a to_o their_o acceptation_n and_o use_v the_o word_n satisfaction_n comprehend_v contrition_n and_o confession_n and_o not_o sacramental_a satisfaction_n only_o also_o they_o require_v satisfaction_n as_o a_o remedy_n against_o the_o guilt_n of_o mortal_a sin_n and_o not_o only_o as_o a_o purgative_n of_o venial_a sin_n or_o as_o a_o remedy_n against_o temporal_a pain_n only_o but_o to_o the_o end_n the_o reader_n may_v evident_o perceive_v the_o popish_a fraud_n in_o pervert_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o father_n concern_v satisfaction_n i_o will_v in_o this_o place_n distinct_o compare_v their_o doctrine_n with_o the_o present_a romish_a tenet_n first_o it_o be_v consess_v that_o many_o father_n use_v the_o word_n satisfaction_n 2._o and_o require_v penitent_a person_n to_o perform_v the_o same_o to_o god_n and_o man_n second_o within_o the_o name_n of_o satisfaction_n they_o include_v and_o comprehend_v contrition_n to_o god_n confession_n and_o amendment_n of_o life_n eleemosynis_fw-la three_o they_o require_v satisfaction_n for_o the_o fault_n and_o eternal_a guilt_n of_o sin_n aeternus_fw-la and_o not_o only_o for_o remoovall_a of_o temporal_a punishment_n four_o the_o word_n satisfaction_n be_v take_v in_o two_o notion_n first_o strict_o for_o a_o just_a and_o equal_a compensation_n of_o the_o injury_n commit_v against_o god_n which_o schoolman_n term_n satisfaction_n of_o condignity_n iustitia_fw-la second_o for_o a_o interpretative_a compensation_n as_o durand_n congruo_fw-la term_v it_o ground_v upon_o divine_a favour_n and_o acceptation_n and_o not_o upon_o the_o complete_a dignity_n of_o the_o action_n the_o schoolman_n term_v this_o latter_a satisfaction_n of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o impetration_n because_o god_n in_o his_o favourable_a indulgence_n 〈◊〉_d more_o on_o man_n part_n as_o necessary_a to_o
remission_n of_o sin_n and_o because_o he_o be_v entreat_v by_o the_o same_o to_o release_v the_o punishment_n deserve_v the_o first_o kind_n of_o satisfaction_n be_v make_v by_o christ_n alone_o saeramentorum_fw-la both_o for_o fault_n and_o guilt_n of_o sin_n the_o latter_a according_a to_o the_o speak_n of_o sundry_a father_n be_v perform_v by_o penitent_a person_n 〈◊〉_d by_o their_o contrition_n 〈◊〉_d confession_n and_o other_o penitential_a action_n five_o repentance_n may_v be_v exercise_v private_o only_a before_o god_n or_o else_o open_o and_o before_o man_n the_o ancient_a church_n observe_v a_o severe_a discipline_n and_o impose_v upon_o notorious_a and_o enormous_a sinner_n open_a penance_n 16._o cause_v they_o to_o make_v satisfaction_n to_o the_o church_n and_o to_o testify_v their_o unfeigned_a repentance_n to_o god_n by_o external_a sign_n and_o by_o action_n of_o humiliation_n and_o mortification_n also_o in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o father_n sinner_n which_o have_v voluntary_o confess_v their_o offence_n to_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v by_o they_o enjoin_v to_o a_o strict_a manner_n of_o humiliation_n and_o exercise_v of_o work_n of_o charity_n and_o mortification_n poenit_fw-la and_o the_o father_n style_v these_o penitential_a action_n by_o the_o name_n of_o satisfaction_n partly_o in_o respect_n of_o man_n offend_v peccata_fw-la partly_o in_o the_o regard_n of_o offender_n themselves_o who_o because_o they_o do_v that_o which_o be_v enjoin_v they_o by_o their_o spiritual_a guide_n to_o appease_v the_o indignation_n of_o god_n be_v say_v to_o make_v satisfaction_n but_o the_o father_n do_v not_o hereby_o exalt_v penitential_a deed_n to_o a_o sufficiency_n or_o equality_n of_o satisfy_v god_n justice_n for_o this_o effect_n be_v proper_a only_o to_o the_o action_n and_o passion_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n but_o they_o term_v that_o satisfaction_n which_o they_o judge_v meet_v or_o necessary_a for_o sinner_n to_o perform_v that_o they_o may_v prevent_v divine_a indignation_n and_o whereby_o they_o may_v repair_v the_o spiritual_a detriment_n which_o they_o have_v incur_v by_o fall_v into_o sin_n six_o and_o last_o marsilius_n ab_fw-la inguen_fw-la presupposira_fw-la a_o famous_a schoolman_n observe_v 〈◊〉_d that_o satisfaction_n sometime_o import_v all_o the_o action_n 〈◊〉_d or_o imperate_a which_o a_o sinner_n must_v perform_v on_o his_o part_n that_o god_n may_v be_v pacify_v and_o thus_o it_o contain_v contrition_n confession_n etc._n etc._n sometime_o it_o note_v only_o those_o act_n which_o follow_v contrationand_n confession_n and_o be_v either_o voluntary_o assume_v or_o impose_v by_o a_o confessor_n the_o father_n use_v the_o word_n satisfaction_n in_o the_o first_o notion_n and_o they_o know_v no_o sacramental_a satisfaction_n affirmant_fw-la but_o only_o of_o discipline_n or_o private_a humiliation_n now_o the_o romist_n in_o their_o course_n of_o doctrine_n have_v miserable_o 〈◊〉_d all_o this_o 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