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against_o the_o arrian_n and_o that_o faelix_fw-la be_v appoint_v to_o succeed_v he_o in_o the_o papacy_n who_o be_v arrianae_n sectae_fw-la addictus_fw-la but_o there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n there_o of_o rome_n be_v arrian_n socrat._v li._n 2._o c._n â—9_n and_o if_o faelix_fw-la do_v perchance_o sometime_o favour_v the_o arrian_n faction_n yet_o be_v it_o before_o he_o be_v elect_v pope_n not_o afterward_o as_o appear_v plain_o by_o sozomen_n in_o the_o very_a place_n by_o you_o cite_v li._n 4._o c._n 10._o liberius_n ecclesiae_fw-la romanae_fw-la episcopatu_fw-la privatus_fw-la est_fw-la cvi_fw-la praefuïtur_fw-la faelix_fw-la illius_fw-la cleri_fw-la diaconus_fw-la quem_fw-la aiunt_fw-la fidei_fw-la concilii_fw-la nicaeni_n semper_fw-la consensisse_fw-la &_o omnino_fw-la quantum_fw-la pertinebat_fw-la ad_fw-la religionem_fw-la reprehensione_n caruisse_fw-la liberius_n say_v he_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o bishopric_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n to_o which_o faelix_fw-la a_o 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