king_n the_o bishop_n the_o clergy_n and_o likewise_o of_o all_o the_o people_n of_o france_n admit_v it_o be_v so_o yet_o for_o all_o this_o do_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v receive_v in_o france_n unless_o he_o can_v show_v withal_o that_o all_o the_o estate_n do_v receive_v it_o that_o be_v the_o church_n the_o nobility_n and_o the_o people_n but_o he_o make_v no_o mention_n of_o the_o nobility_n but_o only_o of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o three_o estate_n so_o that_o at_o the_o most_o it_o be_v receive_v but_o of_o two_o of_o the_o three_o estate_n which_o may_v be_v the_o cause_n that_o our_o adversary_n to_o keep_v up_o the_o number_n divide_v the_o church_n into_o two_o part_n viz._n bishop_n and_o clergy_n the_o council_n say_v he_o be_v receive_v of_o the_o bishop_n the_o clergy_n and_o likewise_o of_o all_o the_o people_n of_o france_n which_o be_v a_o new_a division_n of_o the_o estate_n never_o as_o i_o persuade_v myself_o hear_v of_o before_o judge_n then_o what_o just_a occasion_n the_o nobility_n of_o france_n now_o have_v to_o reject_v this_o council_n when_o as_o those_o who_o will_v have_v the_o council_n receive_v do_v reject_v the_o nobility_n cap._n 6._o that_o the_o huguenot_n may_v very_o right_o be_v account_v member_n of_o the_o catholic_a apostolic_a and_o roman_a church_n this_o chapter_n at_o the_o first_o blush_n seem_v to_o treat_v of_o the_o same_o argument_n that_o the_o first_o do_v for_o have_v there_o prove_v it_o that_o the_o huguenot_n be_v of_o the_o same_o religion_n with_o we_o catholic_n it_o may_v follow_v also_o that_o they_o be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n too_o and_o yet_o to_o my_o think_n these_o two_o chapter_n may_v very_o well_o be_v part_v not_o so_o much_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o difference_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o subject_n as_o of_o the_o humour_n of_o the_o person_n for_o common_o when_o a_o huguenot_n will_v draw_v a_o catholic_a to_o his_o opinion_n he_o begin_v evermore_o with_o the_o particular_a controversy_n and_o so_o upon_o the_o purity_n of_o his_o doctrine_n he_o infer_v the_o verity_n of_o his_o church_n a_o catholic_a on_o the_o other_o side_n when_o he_o will_v win_v a_o huguenot_n begin_v still_o with_o the_o church_n and_o so_o by_o the_o verity_n of_o the_o church_n conclude_v the_o purity_n of_o his_o doctrine_n and_o common_o when_o either_o of_o they_o get_v the_o other_o out_o of_o this_o track_n they_o be_v to_o seek_v which_o be_v one_o of_o the_o reason_n that_o they_o can_v satisfy_v the_o adverse_a party_n for_o he_o that_o will_v persuade_v another_o must_v not_o begin_v with_o that_o principle_n which_o to_o he_o seem_v best_o though_o indeed_o it_o be_v so_o but_o with_o that_o which_o seem_v best_a in_o his_o opinion_n who_o he_o desire_v to_o persuade_v otherwise_o he_o shall_v but_o lose_v his_o labour_n for_o when_o a_o huguenot_n shall_v have_v urge_v a_o thousand_o passage_n of_o holy_a scripture_n to_o prove_v the_o truth_n of_o his_o own_o particular_a assertion_n he_o shall_v not_o be_v a_o whit_n the_o near_o and_o why_o for_o that_o a_o catholic_a will_v say_v instant_o with_o himself_o what_o though_o i_o can_v answer_v he_o yet_o another_o may_v and_o if_o i_o be_o to_o believe_v nothing_o which_o i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o maintain_v by_o disputation_n then_o shall_v i_o not_o believe_v the_o proceed_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n the_o union_n of_o both_o nature_n in_o jesus_n christ_n the_o mystery_n of_o the_o holy_a trinity_n all_o which_o i_o have_v believe_v without_o be_v able_a to_o maintain_v they_o or_o so_o much_o as_o understand_v they_o and_o even_o so_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o same_o church_n which_o make_v i_o believe_v these_o mystery_n without_o be_v able_a to_o maintain_v they_o make_v i_o also_o to_o believe_v the_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n purgatory_n etc._n etc._n without_o be_v able_a to_o maintain_v they_o so_o that_o if_o a_o hugu_n proceed_v no_o further_a &_o do_v not_o show_v a_o reason_n how_o a_o man_n may_v be_v assure_v of_o these_o mystery_n without_o the_o church_n authority_n or_o else_o which_o i_o hold_v more_o reasonable_a why_o we_o ought_v whole_o to_o rely_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n in_o one_o point_n and_o not_o in_o another_o he_o shall_v never_o say_v aught_o to_o the_o purpose_n nor_o can_v the_o catholic_n have_v any_o happy_a success_n in_o their_o persuasive_n for_o when_o they_o talk_v to_o the_o huguenot_n of_o the_o church_n how_o the_o church_n say_v this_o and_o the_o church_n say_v that_o and_o the_o church_n can_v err_v they_o who_o be_v not_o bring_v up_o to_o such_o kind_n of_o phrase_n and_o who_o find_v their_o faith_n upon_o this_o persuasion_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v clear_a on_o their_o side_n what_o care_v we_o will_n they_o say_v what_o the_o church_n say_v so_o long_o as_o we_o agree_v in_o opinion_n with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n so_o that_o a_o catholic_a shall_v never_o be_v able_a to_o persuade_v they_o to_o any_o thing_n if_o he_o begin_v not_o at_o their_o foundation_n and_o prove_v that_o the_o scripture_n make_v not_o so_o clear_o for_o they_o as_o they_o imagine_v it_o do_v and_o then_o when_o they_o once_o perceive_v that_o they_o can_v confute_v the_o catholic_n by_o scripture_n they_o will_v be_v compel_v to_o confess_v that_o a_o man_n can_v have_v no_o assurance_n of_o his_o faith_n without_o submit_v his_o own_o judgement_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n which_o as_o we_o say_v according_a to_o christ_n own_o promise_n be_v infallible_o accompany_v with_o the_o holy_a spirit_n for_o i_o own_o part_n although_o it_o be_v not_o my_o intention_n to_o entice_v any_o man_n either_o to_o one_o religion_n or_o the_o other_o but_o to_o qualify_v only_o the_o passion_n of_o man_n yet_o for_o fear_n that_o i_o shall_v commit_v the_o same_o error_n in_o this_o treatise_n of_o pacification_n which_o they_o often_o do_v in_o the_o course_n of_o their_o persuasive_n i_o think_v good_a to_o subjoine_v this_o chapter_n also_o to_o the_o end_n that_o my_o reason_n may_v be_v draw_v from_o the_o principle_n of_o both_o religion_n and_o thus_o have_v prove_v in_o the_o first_o chapter_n by_o examination_n of_o the_o particular_a question_n according_a to_o the_o huguenot_n method_n that_o they_o be_v no_o heretic_n i_o be_v also_o desirous_a to_o add_v this_o chapter_n that_o according_a to_o the_o catholic_n manner_n of_o proceed_v that_o be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o according_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o church_n i_o may_v also_o prove_v they_o the_o huguenot_n to_o be_v no_o heretic_n for_o it_o be_v but_o labour_v lose_v to_o tell_v many_o of_o our_o catholic_n that_o the_o huguenot_n hold_v many_o of_o the_o fundamental_a point_n of_o faith_n as_o well_o as_o we_o see_v they_o take_v not_o the_o skantling_n of_o a_o heretic_n by_o his_o opinion_n but_o only_o by_o this_o mark_n that_o he_o be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n understand_v thereby_o no_o other_o church_n then_o that_o which_o we_o call_v catholic_a apostolic_a and_o roman_a exclude_v all_o those_o out_o of_o the_o church_n to_o who_o these_o three_o title_n may_v not_o be_v give_v what_o opinion_n soever_o they_o be_v of_o for_o which_o reason_n i_o resolve_v to_o prove_v that_o these_o three_o title_n do_v belong_v unto_o the_o huguenot_n and_o first_o touch_v the_o title_n of_o catholic_a catholic_a the_o church_n be_v call_v catholic_a in_o three_o respect_n first_o in_o regard_n of_o itself_o 2._o in_o regard_n of_o the_o jew_n 3._o in_o regard_n of_o heretic_n now_o the_o church_n be_v call_v catholic_a in_o regard_n of_o itself_o because_o in_o the_o universality_n thereof_o itself_o it_o comprehend_v all_o time_n and_o all_o place_n viz_o the_o whole_a number_n of_o the_o elect_n as_o well_o those_o who_o have_v be_v since_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n and_o be_v now_o depart_v and_o triumphant_a in_o heaven_n enjoy_v everlasting_a bliss_n as_o those_o that_o be_v ordain_v to_o the_o like_a blessedness_n whether_o now_o alive_a or_o to_o be_v bear_v hereafter_o which_o definition_n be_v found_v upon_o the_o scripture_n for_o s._n paul_n word_n be_v the_o church_n of_o the_o firstborn_a 23._o which_o be_v write_v in_o heaven_n and_o who_o be_v write_v in_o heaven_n but_o the_o elect_n from_o who_o the_o reprobate_n be_v in_o this_o specialty_n distinguish_v 18._o that_o their_o name_n be_v not_o write_v in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o lamb_n the_o church_n than_o consist_v of_o the_o elect_n who_o be_v not_o restrain_v to_o any_o place_n or_o time_n for_o jesus_n christ_n have_v redeem_v with_o his_o blood_n say_v saint_n john_n out_o of_o every_o kindred_n 9_o and_o tongue_n and_o people_n
catholic_n and_o huguenot_n thus_o far_o forth_o agree_v in_o doctrine_n that_o they_o be_v both_o of_o the_o same_o faith_n and_o religion_n it_o be_v most_o clear_a that_o man_n of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o religion_n may_v differ_v nevertheless_o about_o some_o opinion_n in_o divinity_n austen_n accord_v not_o to_o hierome_n nor_o epiphanius_n to_o chrysostome_n nor_o cyprian_a to_o cornelius_n nor_o irenaeus_n to_o victor_n and_o questionless_a one_o of_o they_o be_v in_o the_o error_n yet_o be_v they_o all_o doctor_n approve_v by_o the_o church_n and_o saint_n every_o one_o of_o they_o every_o error_n do_v not_o separate_v a_o man_n from_o the_o church_n nor_o shall_v we_o regard_v so_o much_o the_o number_n as_o the_o quality_n of_o they_o arrius_n accord_v with_o the_o catholic_n in_o all_o point_v but_o one_o insomuch_o as_o the_o change_n of_o a_o word_n yea_o of_o one_o bare_a letter_n will_v have_v compound_v the_o controversy_n 〈◊〉_d and_o yet_o be_v he_o the_o great_a heretic_n that_o ever_o the_o church_n be_v trouble_v with_o origen_n on_o the_o other_o side_n dissent_v in_o infinite_a tenant_n from_o the_o other_o old_a doctor_n and_o be_v yet_o nevertheless_o esteem_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n to_o see_v then_o whether_o the_o huguenot_n be_v of_o another_o religion_n than_o we_o neither_o their_o error_n nor_o their_o number_n be_v the_o thing_n which_o be_v so_o much_o to_o be_v regard_v but_o the_o nature_n of_o they_o only_o be_v it_o that_o be_v to_o say_v what_o error_n be_v to_o be_v repute_v for_o heresy_n and_o whether_o they_o be_v of_o that_o nature_n there_o be_v two_o thing_n which_o according_a to_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o catholic_n make_v error_n to_o prove_v heresy_n the_o one_o when_o the_o error_n be_v of_o itself_o so_o enormous_a that_o he_o be_v at_o all_o time_n a_o heretic_n that_o hold_v it_o so_o that_o even_o before_o the_o nicene_n council_n have_v decide_v it_o ebion_n paulus_n samosetanus_n and_o arrius_n stand_v then_o as_o heretic_n for_o that_o they_o deny_v the_o eternal_a divinity_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n the_o second_o thing_n which_o according_a to_o our_o opinion_n make_v a_o error_n to_o become_v a_o heresy_n be_v when_o any_o man_n maintain_v a_o opinion_n in_o point_n of_o doctrine_n contrary_a to_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o general_n council_n so_o then_o the_o heresy_n lie_v not_o so_o much_o in_o the_o mischievousnesse_n of_o the_o opinion_n as_o in_o the_o resistance_n make_v against_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n for_o example_n the_o opinion_n of_o s._n cyprian_a touch_v rebaptization_n be_v not_o heresy_n in_o he_o because_o there_o be_v not_o as_o then_o any_o decree_n of_o council_n make_v against_o it_o but_o since_o that_o say_v we_o this_o opinion_n be_v condemn_v legal_o it_o be_v flat_a heresy_n in_o any_o other_o that_o shall_v hold_v it_o of_o this_o second_o species_n of_o heresy_n i_o will_v entreat_v in_o my_o three_o chapter_n in_o this_o only_o of_o the_o former_a which_o be_v whether_o the_o error_n of_o the_o huguenot_n be_v in_o themselves_o so_o enormous_a that_o they_o destroy_v the_o very_a foundation_n of_o faith_n and_o by_o consequence_n keep_v they_o off_o from_o be_v of_o the_o same_o religion_n with_o us._n let_v we_o see_v then_o 20._o how_o our_o antagonist_n take_v upon_o he_o to_o prove_v the_o contrary_n in_o the_o first_o place_n say_v he_o both_o party_n as_o well_o the_o catholic_n as_o their_o adversary_n repute_v one_o another_o for_o heretic_n i_o answer_v that_o i_o find_v no_o impossibility_n why_o they_o may_v not_o be_v both_o deceive_v for_o two_o brother_n be_v in_o choler_n may_v well_o renounce_v one_o another_o and_o yet_o they_o leave_v not_o for_o all_o that_o to_o continue_v true_a brother_n always_o cyrill_n and_o theodoret_n accuse_v one_o another_o for_o heretic_n and_o yet_o neither_o of_o they_o be_v so_o so_o that_o this_o reason_n be_v only_o draw_v from_o the_o passion_n of_o man_n when_o reason_n have_v abandon_v they_o but_o how_o do_v he_o prove_v 21._o that_o the_o catholic_n repute_v the_o huguenot_n for_o heretic_n the_o catholic_a church_n say_v he_o have_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n condemn_v diverse_a of_o the_o lutheran_n opinion_n i_o answer_v according_a to_o my_o first_o distinction_n that_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o return_v a_o opinion_n for_o a_o heresy_n by_o condemnation_n and_o another_o thing_n to_o repute_v it_o so_o of_o its_o own_o nature_n now_o whither_o or_o no_o the_o huguenot_n be_v heretic_n by_o condemnation_n we_o will_v argue_v it_o hereafter_o in_o our_o three_o four_o and_o five_o chapter_n but_o here_o we_o dispute_v only_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o their_o error_n wherein_o his_o proof_n be_v nothing_o to_o his_o purpose_n but_o say_v he_o at_o rome_n every_o holy_a thursday_n the_o pope_n pronounce_v they_o excommunicate_a 21._o and_o prohibit_v all_o chatholikes_n to_o read_v their_o book_n in_o like_a manner_n the_o same_o day_n also_o he_o excommunicat_o all_o sinner_n of_o who_o he_o dare_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o many_o be_v of_o the_o church_n else_o shall_v he_o himself_o be_v condemn_v for_o a_o heretic_n by_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n which_o give_v sentence_n against_o john_n huz_n that_o the_o church_n consist_v as_o well_o of_o the_o bad_a as_o of_o the_o good_a and_o whereas_o the_o huguenot_n book_n be_v prohibit_v so_o be_v also_o the_o book_n of_o machiavelli_n aretine_n and_o diverse_a other_o catholic_n let_v we_o next_o see_v the_o opinion_n which_o the_o huguenot_n have_v of_o the_o catholic_a doctrine_n 21._o caluine_v say_v he_o write_v that_o the_o principal_a point_n of_o doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v almost_o utter_o abolish_v and_o the_o right_a use_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o many_o fashion_n corrupt_v he_o need_v but_o little_a explication_n the_o word_n themselves_o answer_v he_o calvin_n say_v not_o that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v utter_o take_v away_o but_o the_o right_a use_n of_o they_o many_o way_n corrupt_v nor_o that_o the_o principal_a point_n of_o religion_n be_v utter_o destroy_v but_o almost_o abolish_v a_o man_n may_v be_v almost_o kill_v and_o yet_o live_v second_o to_o prove_v how_o their_o religion_n differ_v from_o we_o reason_n he_o produce_v the_o controversy_n of_o original_a sin_n freewill_n justification_n merit_n and_o diverse_a other_o which_o he_o judge_n of_o most_o consequence_n it_o be_v the_o great_a pity_n in_o the_o world_n to_o hear_v how_o the_o most_o of_o the_o preacher_n in_o both_o religion_n common_o fight_v with_o their_o own_o shadow_n not_o understand_v what_o it_o be_v that_o their_o adversary_n hold_v which_o come_v only_o of_o the_o subtlety_n of_o word_n invent_v by_o the_o devil_n to_o disturb_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n one_o party_n understand_v the_o word_n justification_n in_o one_o sense_n and_o another_o in_o another_o one_o faith_n one_o way_n and_o another_o in_o another_o one_o grace_n in_o one_o fashion_n another_o after_o another_o and_o so_o of_o the_o rest_n that_o which_o we_o say_v be_v true_a in_o our_o acception_n of_o the_o word_n and_o that_o which_o they_o say_v be_v likewise_o true_a as_o they_o take_v it_o so_o that_o if_o the_o desire_n of_o contention_n be_v once_o take_v away_o we_o shall_v soon_o find_v that_o the_o most_o of_o these_o dispute_n wherewith_o people_n ear_n be_v fill_v be_v only_o the_o subtlety_n of_o the_o school_n upon_o the_o etimology_n and_o definition_n of_o word_n only_o whence_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o in_o the_o conference_n at_o regenspurg_n the_o catholic_n and_o the_o protestant_n fall_v to_o some_o agreement_n in_o the_o question_n of_o original_a sin_n of_o predestination_n freewill_n and_o diverse_a other_o point_n pacis_fw-la which_o be_v also_o confess_v by_o bishop_n lindanus_n one_o of_o the_o tarte_v enemy_n that_o the_o huguenot_n ever_o have_v nevertheless_o the_o author_n of_o this_o answer_n be_v so_o ill_o advise_v as_o to_o choose_v out_o these_o question_n principal_o to_o show_v the_o difference_n between_o they_o and_o us._n for_o i_o own_o part_n i_o will_v not_o take_v upon_o i_o to_o reconcile_v the_o say_a question_n neither_o know_v i_o well_o to_o confess_v my_o own_o ignorance_n free_o whether_o it_o be_v possible_a to_o be_v do_v or_o no_o only_o thus_o much_o i_o assure_v myself_o that_o the_o difference_n be_v not_o so_o great_a as_o it_o be_v judge_v to_o be_v nor_o will_v i_o too_o exact_o search_v out_o the_o point_n in_o controversy_n because_o i_o well_o hope_v some_o other_o man_n may_v more_o happy_o perform_v it_o hereafter_o only_o i_o will_v discourse_v upon_o the_o say_a question_n as_o they_o be_v common_o understand_v by_o the_o best_a doctor_n in_o each_o religion_n in_o which_o sense_n i_o
which_o the_o catholic_n call_v inherent_a or_o secondary_a righteousness_n but_o they_o say_v that_o they_o dare_v not_o build_v upon_o it_o but_o only_o upon_o that_o righteousness_n which_o be_v inherent_a in_o christ_n be_v by_o faith_n impute_v to_o they_o see_v then_o that_o this_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n be_v by_o general_a consent_n acknowledge_v to_o be_v most_o perfect_a though_o there_o may_v perhaps_o be_v think_v to_o be_v some_o error_n in_o the_o huguenot_n doctrine_n yet_o no_o danger_n can_v come_v of_o it_o like_a as_o when_o a_o man_n lay_v hold_v on_o a_o strong_a bough_n he_o may_v very_o well_o be_v deceive_v in_o fear_v another_o may_v be_v too_o weak_a yet_o without_o doubt_n he_o can_v fall_v so_o long_o as_o he_o embrace_n that_o which_o can_v break_v next_o follow_v the_o instrument_n by_o which_o we_o embrace_v this_o righteousness_n 23._o and_o that_o be_v faith_n about_o the_o nature_n whereof_o the_o huguenot_n seem_v to_o he_o to_o hold_v another_o error_n for_o that_o they_o deny_v say_v he_o that_o grace_n may_v be_v lose_v without_o the_o loss_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a cavil_n of_o he_o upon_o the_o double_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n faith_n for_o if_o we_o affirm_v that_o faith_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o believe_v that_o god_n be_v so_o and_o so_o and_o that_o he_o have_v do_v such_o and_o such_o thing_n and_o to_o be_v brief_a that_o all_o the_o christian_a doctrine_n be_v most_o true_a the_o huguenot_n will_v say_v with_o saint_n james_n that_o the_o devil_n also_o believe_v as_o much_o and_o that_o the_o devil_n have_v faith_n though_o without_o grace_n so_o that_o the_o huguenot_n mistake_v be_v nothing_o but_o in_o the_o word_n for_o that_o they_o teach_v that_o the_o faith_n of_o that_o man_n which_o be_v devoid_a of_o grace_n and_o charity_n merit_v not_o the_o honourable_a title_n of_o a_o justify_v faith_n and_o that_o such_o a_o faith_n as_o this_o be_v but_o the_o instrument_n only_o by_o which_o we_o be_v justify_v which_o be_v ever_o accompany_v with_o grace_n and_o follow_v by_o good_a work_n we_o affirm_v likewise_o that_o a_o faith_n without_o charity_n be_v a_o faith_n without_o form_n wherefore_o since_o the_o form_n be_v it_o which_o give_v the_o be_v to_o the_o thing_n it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o a_o perfect_a faith_n can_v have_v no_o be_v without_o charity_n which_o tenet_n be_v consent_v unto_o both_o by_o the_o huguenot_n and_o the_o catholic_n themselves_o only_a we_o differ_v in_o term_n the_o huguenot_n call_v faith_n without_o charity_n a_o historical_a or_o dead_a faith_n and_o we_o a_o faith_n without_o form_n o_o my_o god_n what_o a_o pity_n it_o be_v to_o behold_v the_o simplicity_n of_o our_o christian_a faith_n thus_o puzzle_v about_o these_o quiddity_n there_o remain_v now_o the_o effect_n of_o our_o justification_n good_a work_n work_n by_o which_o even_o we_o catholic_n say_v that_o a_o man_n be_v not_o make_v just_o but_o that_o be_v justify_v before_o he_o increase_v in_o righteousness_n that_o be_v of_o a_o just_a man_n he_o become_v more_o just_a and_o be_v regenerate_v &_o in_o the_o state_n of_o grace_n he_o may_v as_o our_o adversary_n say_v fulfil_v the_o law_n in_o such_o a_o sort_n that_o he_o may_v by_o it_o true_o and_o proper_o merit_v eternal_a life_n but_o as_o for_o the_o fulfil_n of_o the_o law_n see_v the_o huguenot_n do_v their_o best_a to_o perform_v it_o although_o they_o may_v be_v think_v to_o err_v in_o confess_v they_o can_v do_v it_o yet_o have_v our_o saviour_n himself_o promise_v free_a pardon_n for_o it_o in_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o son_n who_o refuse_v to_o do_v his_o father_n will_n and_o yet_o do_v it_o to_o return_v then_o to_o merit_n by_o work_n the_o more_o accurate_a sort_n of_o catholic_n peremptory_o deny_v that_o they_o be_v at_o all_o meritorious_a unless_o they_o be_v die_v in_o the_o blood_n of_o christ._n and_o i_o assure_v myself_o that_o not_o one_o among_o ten_o thousand_o catholic_n understand_v sufficient_o the_o meaning_n of_o this_o phrase_n work_v die_v in_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o simple_o and_o without_o other_o addition_n they_o will_v say_v that_o they_o be_v in_o good_a hope_n to_o merit_v heaven_n by_o their_o work_n so_o that_o we_o see_v there_o be_v three_o several_a opinion_n touch_v this_o question_n the_o first_o be_v of_o the_o vulgar_a catholic_n who_o be_v more_o in_o number_n a_o thousand_o time_n and_o who_o simple_o affirm_v that_o they_o be_v indeed_o able_a to_o merit_v eternal_a life_n by_o their_o good_a work_n the_o second_o be_v of_o the_o huguenot_n who_o absolute_o deny_v that_o good_a work_n do_v merit_n at_o all_o only_o say_v they_o god_n out_o of_o his_o pure_a grace_n for_o the_o love_n of_o his_o son_n grant_v they_o a_o recompense_n the_o three_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o jesuit_n and_o the_o learned_a catholic_n who_o deny_v that_o any_o kind_n of_o work_n do_v of_o themselves_o merit_n but_o such_o only_a as_o i_o say_v as_o be_v die_v in_o the_o blood_n of_o chrâ—st_n which_o opinion_n accord_v much_o better_a with_o the_o huguenot_n doctrine_n then_o that_o of_o the_o vulgar_a catholic_n for_o a_o thing_n die_v be_v not_o alter_v in_o substance_n as_o copper_n though_o gild_a yet_o continue_v copper_n still_o the_o tincture_n and_o the_o gilding_n make_v the_o thing_n only_o fair_a to_o the_o eye_n and_o so_o be_v it_o with_o our_o work_n which_o be_v by_o nature_n corrupt_v remain_v corrupt_a still_o though_o die_v in_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n howbeit_o that_o the_o tincture_n and_o gilding_n make_v they_o more_o please_v unto_o god_n and_o for_o the_o love_n which_o he_o bear_v to_o christ_n blood_n to_o be_v reward_v and_o if_o peradventure_o they_o make_v conscience_n of_o use_v the_o word_n merit_n let_v we_o hearken_v to_o s._n bernard_n a_o man_n can_v say_v he_o merit_v eternal_a life_n virgin_n by_o any_o good_a work_n whatsoever_o and_o yet_o i_o trow_v that_o s._n bernard_n be_v in_o this_o no_o huguenot_n for_o i_o well_o know_v that_o a_o jesuite_n with_o some_o neat_a distinction_n can_v make_v he_o speak_v like_o a_o catholic_a whatsoever_o his_o meaning_n be_v let_v we_o then_o but_o do_v the_o huguenot_n the_o like_a courtesy_n and_o make_v the_o same_o distinction_n in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o their_o tenent_n as_o we_o will_v do_v in_o the_o explication_n of_o s._n bernard_n and_o in_o this_o point_n they_o will_v prove_v as_o good_a catholic_n as_o s._n bernard_n or_o ourselves_o the_o four_o point_n be_v prayer_n 26._o to_o wit_n whether_o we_o ought_v to_o invoke_v the_o saint_n or_o not_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o we_o lie_v in_o two_o point_n first_o whether_o we_o ought_v to_o direct_v our_o prayer_n unto_o they_o the_o second_o whether_o they_o pray_v for_o us._n for_o the_o first_o this_o i_o say_v that_o the_o catholic_n themselves_o make_v two_o extremity_n to_o wit_n in_o the_o not_o invoke_v they_o as_o the_o huguenot_n do_v and_o in_o honour_v they_o too_o much_o which_o be_v to_o say_v in_o attribute_v to_o they_o that_o honour_n which_o be_v due_a only_a unto_o god_n which_o the_o schoolman_n call_v latria_n which_o whosoever_o do_v they_o themselves_o hold_v he_o for_o a_o idolater_n now_o the_o poor_a people_n which_o understand_v not_o the_o greek_a nor_o what_o latria_n mean_v nor_o comprehend_v any_o other_o mediocrity_n than_o to_o adore_v right_o down_o or_o not_o to_o adore_v at_o all_o go_v to_o it_o bonafide_fw-la and_o with_o as_o much_o devotion_n adore_v our_o lady_n and_o the_o other_o saint_n as_o they_o do_v god_n himself_o in_o such_o fashion_n as_o that_o very_a hardly_o even_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o catholic_n can_v the_o catholic_n themselves_o herein_o avoid_v idolatry_n as_o for_o the_o other_o extremity_n those_o catholic_n that_o maintain_v invocation_n of_o saint_n teach_v only_o thus_o much_o that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o invoke_v they_o and_o not_o unlawful_a not_o to_o invoke_v they_o so_o that_o there_o can_v come_v no_o great_a danger_n of_o it_o in_o follow_v the_o catholic_n doctrine_n if_o true_a nor_o in_o follow_v the_o huguenot_n though_o erroneous_a the_o huguenot_n say_v furthermore_o that_o we_o ought_v to_o honour_v they_o which_o we_o may_v very_o well_o do_v without_o invoke_v they_o as_o a_o subject_n may_v well_o honour_v his_o sovereign_n be_v absent_a though_o he_o never_o present_v any_o petition_n to_o he_o in_o all_o his_o life_n as_o for_o the_o second_o point_n to_o wit_n whether_o they_o pray_v for_o we_o or_o not_o i_o affirm_v that_o there_o be_v huguenot_n that_o will_v confess_v that_o they_o do_v neither_o do_v calvin_n himself_o deny_v it_o only_o he_o say_v that_o he_o trouble_v
practise_v ancient_o notwithstanding_o that_o they_o do_v now_o forbear_v they_o especial_o when_o they_o have_v observe_v they_o to_o change_v into_o so_o much_o superstition_n as_o that_o our_o better_a learned_a catholic_n do_v even_o laugh_v at_o the_o poor_a people_n who_o they_o themselves_o have_v abuse_v cap._n 3._o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o huguenot_n have_v not_o be_v condemn_v by_o any_o lawful_a judgement_n before_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n hitherto_o have_v i_o speak_v of_o the_o huguenot_n religion_n as_o it_o be_v in_o itself_o as_o well_o in_o doctrine_n as_o in_o ceremony_n viz_o that_o ceremony_n be_v thing_n indifferent_a and_o as_o for_o their_o error_n in_o doctrine_n that_o they_o be_v not_o in_o the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n so_o that_o they_o not_o be_v heretic_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o wickedness_n of_o their_o opinion_n let_v we_o now_o traverse_v the_o indictment_n to_o find_v whether_o they_o be_v so_o by_o condemnation_n now_o our_o adversary_n to_o convict_v they_o produces_z the_o decree_n of_o diverse_a counsel_n to_o which_o before_o i_o make_v answer_n i_o will_v propose_v these_o 4_o consideration_n the_o first_o be_v this_o 112_o whether_o a_o general_a and_o lawful_a council_n may_v err_v or_o not_o in_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n see_v that_o it_o be_v make_v up_o of_o man_n in_o who_o testimony_n as_o say_v s._n augustine_n there_o be_v so_o little_a certainty_n his_o word_n be_v these_o a_o man_n may_v believe_v the_o scripture_n without_o doubt_v but_o for_o any_o other_o testimony_n it_o be_v lawful_a either_o to_o believe_v they_o or_o not_o to_o believe_v they_o so_o as_o this_o privilege_n to_o be_v of_o a_o irrefageable_a certainty_n be_v only_o give_v to_o the_o scripture_n which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a than_o all_o the_o passage_n which_o be_v draw_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n be_v thus_o far_o forth_o only_o of_o weight_n as_o they_o can_v be_v make_v good_a by_o the_o scripture_n nevertheless_o this_o be_v the_o common_a answer_n of_o the_o huguenot_n i_o will_v make_v no_o further_o use_v of_o it_o but_o like_o a_o true_a catholic_a confess_v this_o to_o be_v a_o infallible_a maxim_n that_o a_o lawful_a and_o general_a council_n can_v err_v in_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n the_o second_o be_v consid._n whether_o if_o such_o a_o general_a council_n may_v err_v though_o not_o in_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n yet_o at_o least_o in_o other_o point_n of_o divinity_n of_o less_o consequence_n and_o if_o they_o may_v err_v in_o these_o then_o see_v as_o i_o have_v show_v that_o the_o huguenot_n error_n be_v not_o in_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n that_o it_o follow_v hereupon_o that_o the_o counsel_n may_v err_v in_o their_o definitive_a decision_n of_o those_o controversy_n which_o be_v betwixt_o the_o huguenot_n and_o we_o be_v only_o point_v of_o lesser_a consequence_n whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o this_o second_o sort_n of_o heresy_n become_v supernumerary_a and_o their_o error_n not_o be_v heresy_n in_o their_o own_o nature_n can_v be_v make_v heresy_n by_o bare_a condemnation_n for_o the_o reason_n why_o he_o be_v count_v a_o heretic_n who_o resist_v the_o decree_n of_o a_o council_n be_v for_o that_o in_o do_v so_o he_o resist_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o do_v still_o and_o infallible_o accompany_v the_o council_n but_o now_o if_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v no_o further_o forth_o promise_v to_o assist_v the_o council_n then_o when_o it_o treat_v of_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n then_o they_o who_o hold_v some_o tenet_n contrary_a to_o the_o council_n in_o other_o thing_n do_v not_o herein_o resist_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 15._o and_o by_o consequence_n be_v no_o heretic_n stapleton_n professor_n of_o the_o controversy_n at_o douai_n and_o one_o of_o the_o most_o learned_a catholic_n of_o our_o time_n who_o have_v write_v most_o accurate_o of_o this_o argument_n hold_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v only_o promise_v to_o assist_v the_o counsel_n in_o necessary_a thing_n and_o that_o in_o other_o thing_n they_o may_v err_v 4._o and_o andradius_fw-la himself_o who_o defend_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n in_o the_o very_a same_o book_n wherein_o he_o do_v defend_v it_o as_o general_a lawful_a and_o sound_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o faith_n 3._o condemn_v the_o vulgar_a translation_n of_o the_o bible_n as_o corrupt_v although_o the_o say_a council_n have_v authorize_v it_o for_o authentical_a so_o little_o do_v he_o trust_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o counsel_n in_o thing_n which_o be_v beside_o the_o essence_n of_o faith_n but_o admit_v thus_o much_o cons._n that_o a_o lawful_a council_n can_v err_v at_o all_o yet_o be_v there_o still_o a_o three_o difficulty_n viz._n whether_o these_o counsel_n which_o he_o produce_v against_o the_o huguenot_n be_v lawful_a which_o even_o a_o catholic_a may_v safe_o deny_v for_o as_o much_o as_o there_o be_v diverse_a nillity_n to_o be_v find_v in_o they_o and_o namely_o in_o their_o manner_n of_o proceed_v which_o be_v no_o where_o find_v in_o the_o ancient_a counsel_n as_o i_o will_v show_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n when_o i_o treat_v of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n now_o the_o huguenot_n will_v be_v very_o well_o content_a to_o be_v try_v by_o the_o ancient_a counsel_n hold_v in_o the_o first_o 600_o year_n of_o christ_n namely_o until_o such_o time_n as_o the_o pope_n as_o they_o say_v have_v get_v so_o absolute_a a_o monarchy_n in_o the_o church_n take_v away_o the_o liberty_n of_o counsel_n and_o subject_v the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o other_o bishop_n to_o give_v with_o he_o now_o all_o the_o counsel_n allege_v by_o our_o adversary_n be_v since_o that_o time_n there_o remain_v a_o four_o difficulty_n cons._n namely_o whether_o the_o huguenot_n have_v be_v just_o condemn_v by_o the_o latter_a counsel_n now_o upon_o these_o four_o consideration_n a_o man_n may_v perceive_v how_o frivolous_a his_o brag_n be_v of_o the_o counsel_n for_o as_o much_o as_o he_o be_v able_a to_o conclude_v nothing_o unless_o he_o have_v leave_n grant_v he_o before_o hand_n to_o add_v what_o authority_n to_o the_o counsel_n he_o please_v to_o make_v what_o counsel_n lawful_a he_o list_v and_o to_o force_v the_o counsel_n to_o speak_v what_o he_o will_v have_v they_o the_o most_o innocent_a man_n in_o the_o world_n may_v be_v convict_v by_o such_o proof_n if_o a_o man_n will_v believe_v without_o further_a examination_n whatsoever_o every_o witness_n shall_v bring_v against_o he_o and_o when_o his_o adversary_n also_o shall_v have_v leave_n both_o to_o pack_v the_o witness_n at_o his_o own_o pleasure_n and_o also_o to_o judge_v of_o their_o testimony_n but_o to_o return_v to_o our_o purpose_n let_v we_o see_v next_o whether_o the_o huguenot_n stand_v lawful_o condemn_v by_o those_o counsel_n which_o he_o produce_v or_o not_o the_o catholic_a apology_n deny_v it_o whereby_o in_o my_o conceit_n he_o show_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o zeal_n to_o the_o roman_a religion_n for_o consider_v what_o a_o world_n of_o people_n be_v infect_v with_o the_o huguenot_n doctrine_n by_o reason_n that_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o condemn_v by_o any_o lawful_a form_n of_o proceed_v he_o endeavour_n to_o persuade_v with_o the_o catholic_n to_o cause_v a_o lawful_a council_n to_o be_v call_v to_o confute_v they_o to_o the_o end_n that_o the_o huguenot_n may_v be_v satisfy_v by_o be_v show_v their_o error_n and_o be_v leave_v without_o excuse_n for_o reject_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o observe_v that_o there_o be_v many_o seditious_a catholic_n who_o rather_o thirst_v to_o kill_v their_o body_n then_o to_o save_v their_o soul_n do_v hinder_v so_o holy_a a_o design_n under_o colour_n that_o they_o be_v already_o condemn_v by_o other_o counsel_n the_o catholic_a apology_n do_v very_o well_o herein_o to_o advise_v they_o not_o to_o desist_v for_o all_o this_o but_o to_o pursue_v so_o good_a a_o enterprise_n for_o as_o much_o as_o the_o former_a decree_n by_o which_o the_o huguenot_n stand_v condemn_v be_v not_o of_o such_o authority_n but_o that_o they_o may_v appeal_v from_o they_o to_o a_o high_a power_n so_o that_o we_o must_v sue_v out_o another_o process_n against_o they_o to_o get_v such_o a_o judgement_n as_o they_o themselves_o shalâ—_n never_o be_v able_a to_o except_v against_o now_o our_o adversary_n answer_v that_o there_o be_v no_o need_n to_o take_v this_o course_n affirm_v that_o they_o be_v indeed_o cast_v already_o by_o such_o a_o judgement_n which_o he_o prove_v by_o two_o reason_n one_o be_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v be_v public_o confirm_v by_o general_a counsel_n before_o that_o of_o trent_n the_o second_o be_v that_o the_o huguenot_n religion_n be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o
the_o huguenot_n say_v much_o fail_v in_o all_o these_o circumstance_n for_o first_o it_o decide_v before_o it_o measure_v for_o as_o much_o as_o even_o before_o their_o come_n to_o the_o council_n they_o be_v every_o man_n of_o they_o resolve_v to_o condemn_v the_o huguenot_n second_o in_o examine_v and_o measure_v of_o the_o question_n it_o measure_v not_o by_o the_o write_a word_n only_o but_o by_o tradition_n also_o as_o it_o be_v agree_v upon_o at_o the_o four_o session_n of_o the_o say_a council_n so_o that_o it_o measure_v sometime_o either_o without_o a_o rule_n or_o at_o least_o by_o a_o rule_n very_o contrary_a to_o that_o of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a three_o admit_v that_o it_o have_v measure_v by_o a_o true_a rule_n yet_o do_v it_o not_o so_o much_o apply_v the_o doctrine_n to_o the_o rule_n as_o bend_v the_o rule_n to_o make_v it_o fit_a to_o the_o doctrine_n viz_o pervert_v the_o scripture_n by_o a_o interpretation_n force_v to_o their_o own_o opinion_n for_o in_o the_o four_o session_n it_o be_v decree_v that_o no_o man_n shall_v give_v any_o other_o interpretation_n then_o that_o which_o be_v consonant_n to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n so_o that_o in_o stead_n of_o measure_v their_o doctrine_n by_o the_o rule_n they_o measure_v the_o rule_n by_o their_o doctrine_n but_o he_o follow_v it_o further_o against_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o spirit_n reason_n that_o if_o we_o shall_v try_v all_o then_o shall_v we_o call_v again_o into_o question_n the_o very_a book_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n itself_o i_o answer_v no_o and_o that_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o we_o shall_v call_v in_o question_n again_o the_o book_n approve_v by_o ancient_a counsel_n because_o they_o reject_v some_o which_o be_v approve_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n see_v that_o in_o this_o particular_a the_o judgement_n of_o that_o council_n be_v suspect_v even_o by_o catholic_n themselves_o for_o sixtus_n senensis_n a_o great_a catholic_a yea_o even_o since_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v reject_v for_o apocryphal_a the_o seven_o last_o chapter_n of_o the_o book_n of_o hester_n which_o be_v approve_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n which_o doubtless_o he_o will_v never_o have_v do_v have_v he_o hold_v it_o unlawful_a to_o try_v the_o spirit_n of_o the_o say_a council_n three_o he_o argue_v reason_n that_o if_o matter_n already_o determine_v and_o define_v may_v be_v bring_v in_o question_n again_o what_o end_n then_o will_v there_o be_v of_o controversy_n i_o answer_v that_o this_o reason_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o stay_v the_o trial_n of_o counsel_n because_o that_o this_o be_v the_o way_n to_o set_v a_o end_n to_o controversy_n for_o that_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o to_o dispatch_v controversy_n unless_o we_o be_v sure_a that_o this_o dispatch_a be_v a_o well_o end_v of_o they_o and_o so_o the_o arrian_n might_n even_o as_o well_o have_v persuade_v we_o to_o rely_v upon_o their_o pack_v council_n of_o ariminum_n to_o give_v a_o end_n to_o controversy_n to_o which_o our_o adversary_n can_v shape_v no_o other_o answer_n but_o that_o their_o council_n be_v not_o lawful_a and_o that_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n be_v well_o then_o say_v i_o that_o though_o we_o may_v not_o examine_v the_o decree_n of_o a_o council_n yet_o may_v we_o try_v whether_o the_o council_n be_v lawful_a or_o not_o and_o for_o this_o once_o we_o desire_v no_o more_o advantage_n than_o this_o and_o thus_o much_o must_v be_v grant_v we_o in_o despite_n of_o the_o world_n for_o if_o we_o ought_v simple_o to_o rely_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n which_o common_o pass_v for_o lawful_a among_o our_o doctor_n without_o any_o further_a enquiry_n there_o be_v no_o reason_n wherefore_o the_o grecian_n shall_v rather_o assent_v to_o the_o second_o council_n of_o nice_a which_o allow_v of_o image_n then_o to_o that_o of_o constantinople_n make_v up_o of_o 300._o of_o their_o own_o bishop_n which_o condemn_v they_o the_o four_o reason_n reason_n for_o which_o he_o take_v away_o the_o liberty_n of_o try_v their_o doctrine_n from_o the_o people_n be_v quote_v out_o of_o the_o 17._o chapter_n of_o deuteronomie_n where_o it_o be_v command_v that_o man_n shall_v inquire_v of_o the_o priest_n and_o levieâ—s_n and_o the_o judge_n appoint_v for_o the_o time_n in_o case_n of_o difficulty_n and_o moses_n say_v our_o adversary_n add_v not_o try_v the_o spirit_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o judge_n but_o if_o any_o grow_v proud_a and_o will_v not_o obey_v the_o command_n of_o the_o priest_n that_o man_n shall_v die_v by_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o judge_n nor_o be_v this_o much_o different_a from_o that_o which_o our_o lord_n say_v in_o the_o gospel_n of_o saint_n matthew_n the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n sit_v in_o moses_n chair_n whatsoever_o therefore_o they_o say_v unto_o you_o that_o observe_v and_o do_v as_o for_o moses_n commandment_n it_o be_v give_v unto_o the_o jew_n onom_fw-la whereupon_o rabbi_n solomon_n jarchi_n conclude_v that_o we_o be_v to_o believe_v whatsoever_o the_o jewish_a priest_n say_v since_o than_o that_o their_o priest_n interpret_v the_o prophecy_n even_o of_o christ_n himself_o otherwise_o than_o we_o christian_n do_v a_o jew_n will_v say_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v because_o their_o priest_n deny_v it_o and_o if_o according_a to_o our_o adversary_n saying_n we_o ought_v not_o to_o try_v the_o spirit_n of_o their_o priest_n i_o demand_v then_o how_o he_o will_v answer_v the_o jew_n and_o i_o will_v answer_v he_o as_o he_o do_v they_o namely_o that_o in_o the_o text_n this_o clause_n be_v insert_v according_a to_o law_n that_o be_v to_o say_v we_o be_v to_o obey_v their_o commandment_n so_o far_o forth_o ay_o they_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o law_n which_o how_o can_v we_o know_v unless_o we_o examine_v it_o so_o that_o let_v our_o adversary_n take_v his_o choice_n either_o to_o confess_v that_o we_o be_v not_o in_o this_o place_n forbid_v to_o try_v the_o spirit_n of_o the_o priest_n or_o else_o to_o acknowledge_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o jew._n to_o the_o place_n of_o saint_n matthew_n reason_n because_o he_o say_v how_o that_o it_o be_v not_o much_o unlike_a our_o answer_n shall_v likewise_o be_v the_o same_o for_o our_o saviour_n have_v not_o command_v we_o to_o obey_v the_o pharisee_n in_o all_o thing_n simple_o but_o not_o to_o take_v such_o scandal_n at_o their_o life_n as_o that_o we_o shall_v refuse_v to_o obey_v they_o when_o they_o speak_v well_o for_o shall_v we_o simple_o give_v credit_n to_o what_o they_o bid_v we_o without_o trial_n of_o it_o 17._o why_o shall_v we_o believe_v that_o jesus_n christ_n be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n when_o as_o the_o high_a priest_n say_v that_o he_o blaspheme_v in_o call_v himself_o so_o his_o last_o reason_n be_v draw_v from_o the_o council_n of_o the_o apostle_n mention_v act_n 15._o it_o seem_v good_a unto_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o to_o we_o whence_o he_o conclude_v that_o god_n spirit_n be_v so_o infallible_o tie_v unto_o a_o lawful_a council_n that_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o call_v the_o definition_n of_o it_o into_o question_n nor_o will_v saint_n paul_n himself_o say_v our_o adversary_n examine_v the_o instruction_n of_o the_o council_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o saint_n luke_n say_v act_v 16._o he_o give_v they_o that_o to_o observe_v which_o be_v ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o elder_n which_o be_v at_o jerusalem_n i_o will_v fain_o ask_v one_o of_o our_o catholic_a doctor_n to_o what_o purpose_n be_v there_o so_o many_o disputation_n and_o consultation_n at_o our_o counsel_n if_o so_o be_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v so_o infallible_o direct_v they_o his_o answer_n will_v be_v that_o god_n ordinary_a providence_n be_v such_o as_o that_o he_o still_o assist_v they_o with_o his_o spirit_n when_o they_o for_o their_o part_n apply_v that_o diligence_n which_o they_o ought_v and_o not_o otherwise_o just_o as_o he_o make_v not_o the_o ground_n fruitful_a but_o when_o the_o husbandman_n till_v and_o sow_n his_o corn_n in_o it_o and_o apply_v such_o labour_n as_o the_o soil_n require_v and_o thus_o much_o be_v clear_a by_o this_o passage_n namely_o that_o the_o apostle_n do_v apply_v all_o industry_n and_o the_o apt_a mean_n for_o the_o resolve_v of_o the_o doubt_n propose_v for_o it_o be_v say_v that_o after_o a_o long_a disputation_n peter_n stand_v up_o whence_o a_o man_n may_v conclude_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v no_o otherwise_o promise_v to_o a_o council_n then_o conditional_o viz._n when_o the_o council_n do_v apply_v all_o the_o mean_n and_o industry_n on_o their_o part_n for_o the_o find_v out_o of_o the_o truth_n and_o that_o otherwise_o it_o may_v be_v destitute_a of_o god_n spirit_n namely_o when_o it_o do_v not_o apply_v
subscribe_v to_o it_o nor_o do_v the_o king_n afterward_o receive_v it_o or_o the_o court_n of_o parliament_n ever_o publish_v it_o no_o not_o after_o that_o saint_n bartholomew_n day_n 1572_o when_o the_o time_n seem_v most_o importune_a to_o favour_v any_o thing_n that_o may_v be_v prejudicial_a to_o the_o huguenot_n but_o at_o least_o the_o bishop_n have_v approve_v it_o for_o when_o the_o decree_n of_o it_o be_v open_o read_v in_o the_o last_o session_n the_o bishop_n be_v present_a and_o give_v their_o voice_n and_o suffrage_n i_o answer_v reason_n first_o that_o so_o far_o be_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o bishop_n from_o confirm_v of_o the_o council_n that_o quite_o contrary_a it_o discover_v the_o unjust_a proceed_n of_o it_o for_o those_o bishop_n that_o give_v their_o voice_n to_o it_o in_o the_o last_o session_n give_v their_o sentence_n deliberative_a upon_o the_o point_n which_o have_v be_v treat_v upon_o in_o the_o former_a session_n under_o paulus_n the_o three_o and_o julius_n the_o three_o before_o that_o the_o say_v bishop_n come_v to_o the_o council_n a_o thing_n contrary_n to_o all_o civil_a law_n to_o equity_n itself_o and_o to_o the_o custom_n of_o all_o the_o parliament_n high_a court_n of_o justice_n and_o other_o judiciaries_n which_o out_o of_o the_o person_n of_o many_o judge_n be_v make_v one_o body_n in_o all_o which_o those_o that_o have_v not_o be_v there_o all_o the_o time_n be_v not_o suffer_v to_o deliver_v their_o opinion_n second_o it_o do_v not_o hereupon_o follow_v that_o the_o bishop_n have_v approve_v of_o this_o council_n because_o they_o give_v their_o consent_n to_o the_o article_n of_o it_o for_o there_o be_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o difference_n betwixt_o those_o that_o agree_v in_o opinion_n with_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o council_n and_o those_o that_o uphold_v a_o opinion_n only_o because_o the_o council_n have_v decree_v it_o for_o our_o adversary_n agree_v in_o opinion_n with_o the_o devil_n in_o that_o it_o be_v write_v how_o god_n give_v his_o angel_n charge_n over_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n yet_o he_o do_v not_o i_o think_v believe_v it_o never_o the_o more_o for_o that_o the_o devil_n say_v it_o furthermore_o at_o what_o time_n as_o they_o give_v their_o consent_n to_o the_o article_n aforesaid_a the_o council_n be_v not_o confirm_v by_o the_o pope_n now_o it_o be_v our_o adversary_n own_o tenet_n that_o a_o council_n be_v void_a if_o not_o confirm_v by_o the_o pope_n and_o this_o one_o reason_n he_o make_v to_o serve_v his_o own_o turn_n against_o the_o council_n of_o basil._n it_o be_v say_v he_o a_o rule_n most_o general_o know_v that_o counsel_n be_v not_o to_o be_v receive_v without_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o pope_n whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o those_o who_o give_v their_o consent_n to_o the_o say_a article_n do_v at_o the_o very_a same_o time_n when_o they_o give_v their_o consent_n hold_v the_o say_a council_n to_o be_v as_o yet_o no_o council_n so_o that_o a_o man_n can_v hereby_o prove_v that_o they_o do_v receive_v the_o council_n because_o they_o give_v their_o voice_n to_o the_o article_n to_o the_o second_o objection_n objection_n which_o touch_v upon_o the_o precedency_n of_o the_o most_o christian_n king_n he_o answer_v thus_o in_o brief_a that_o the_o council_n be_v so_o far_o from_o offer_v to_o diminish_v the_o king_n authority_n that_o to_o the_o contrary_a the_o king_n ambassador_n by_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o all_o be_v seat_v immediate_o next_o after_o the_o emperor_n but_o the_o spanish_a ambassador_n out_o of_o his_o rank_n in_o another_o place_n to_o the_o end_n that_o if_o it_o so_o fall_v out_o that_o any_o man_n be_v set_v out_o of_o his_o place_n yet_o shall_v it_o not_o be_v prejudicial_a unto_o he_o he_o shall_v not_o have_v answer_v that_o the_o council_n seat_v the_o king_n ambassador_n next_o unto_o the_o emperor_n but_o only_o that_o the_o council_n do_v not_o put_v he_o out_o of_o his_o right_a place_n for_o in_o the_o 22._o session_n mounseur_fw-fr du_fw-fr ferrier_n &_o de_fw-fr pibrac_n be_v suspicious_a of_o the_o affection_n of_o the_o council_n go_v in_o betimes_o to_o take_v up_o their_o place_n insomuch_o that_o the_o count_n de_fw-fr luna_n ambassador_n for_o the_o king_n of_o spain_n make_v public_a protestation_n before_o the_o father_n how_o that_o his_o place_n be_v take_v up_o whereupon_o monsieur_n de_fw-fr pibrac_n require_v that_o the_o say_a protestation_n of_o he_o may_v not_o be_v prejudicial_a to_o his_o king_n prerogative_n who_o ambassador_n have_v ever_o have_v the_o first_o place_n next_o to_o the_o emperor_n as_o they_o have_v at_o the_o counsel_n of_o constance_n and_o lateran_n but_o for_o all_o this_o the_o council_n will_v not_o umpire_n the_o business_n and_o though_o they_o take_v not_o the_o place_n away_o from_o the_o king_n ambassador_n yet_o our_o adversary_n confess_v that_o they_o will_v not_o pronounce_v that_o this_o place_n do_v belong_v unto_o they_o for_o first_o he_o say_v that_o the_o spanish_a ambassador_n be_v set_v out_o of_o his_o place_n second_o that_o if_o any_o man_n be_v by_o chance_n set_v out_o of_o his_o rank_n yet_o will_v not_o the_o council_n have_v it_o to_o be_v prejudicial_a unto_o he_o which_o be_v nothing_o else_o then_o to_o declare_v that_o that_o place_n which_o they_o permit_v the_o king_n ambassador_n to_o keep_v for_o the_o time_n for_o avoid_v of_o contention_n and_o for_o that_o they_o have_v betimes_o already_o take_v it_o up_o much_o against_o the_o will_n of_o the_o father_n shall_v not_o be_v prejudicial_a unto_o that_o right_n which_o they_o think_v to_o be_v due_a unto_o the_o king_n of_o spain_n second_o put_v case_n the_o council_n to_o have_v be_v so_o even_o affect_v as_o he_o will_v make_v it_o yet_o do_v they_o wrong_v say_v i_o nevertheless_o in_o forbear_v to_o be_v umpire_n open_o in_o the_o king_n cause_n for_o there_o be_v no_o man_n that_o can_v deny_v a_o thing_n most_o apparent_a at_o the_o first_o dash_n but_o he_o must_v gain_v upon_o it_o by_o little_a and_o little_a so_o that_o the_o first_o degree_n to_o it_o be_v to_o call_v a_o thing_n into_o question_n nor_o do_v any_o man_n wilful_o call_v a_o thing_n into_o question_n unless_o he_o purpose_v absolute_o to_o deny_v it_o afterward_o so_o that_o it_o be_v easy_o discern_v that_o the_o council_n at_o this_o time_n bring_v the_o king_n precedency_n into_o question_n and_o make_v the_o king_n of_o spain_n equal_a with_o he_o have_v a_o plot_n in_o it_o at_o the_o next_o council_n to_o give_v he_o the_o place_n above_o the_o king_n of_o france_n last_o admit_v the_o council_n to_o have_v have_v no_o such_o plot_n upon_o he_o but_o only_o to_o carry_v a_o even_a regard_n to_o both_o yet_o the_o wrong_n remain_v nevertheless_o it_o be_v no_o less_o injurious_a to_o make_v a_o inferior_a equal_a to_o his_o superior_a then_o to_o make_v a_o equal_a superior_a to_o his_o equal_a thereremaine_v now_o say_v our_o adversary_n the_o last_o objection_n only_o viz_o that_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v decree_v diverse_a thing_n against_o the_o realm_n of_o france_n which_o be_v the_o reason_n that_o it_o be_v not_o receive_v there_o but_o this_o objection_n say_v he_o serve_v little_a to_o the_o purpose_n for_o the_o question_n be_v not_o only_o about_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n but_o about_o faith_n and_o religion_n wherefore_o although_o that_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n for_o reformation_n be_v not_o receive_v in_o france_n yet_o the_o decree_n which_o treat_v above_o faith_n be_v our_o adversary_n can_v deny_v but_o that_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v decree_v some_o thing_n against_o the_o french_a liberty_n only_o he_o answer_v that_o all_o this_o hinder_v not_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o other_o article_n which_o mere_o concern_v faith_n his_o own_o word_n be_v this_o objection_n serve_v to_o little_a purpose_n for_o that_o the_o question_n be_v not_o only_o about_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n but_o about_o faith_n and_o religion_n and_o i_o say_v again_o that_o this_o answer_n of_o he_o serve_v as_o little_a to_o the_o purpose_n for_o that_o we_o treat_v not_o of_o thing_n that_o concern_v either_o reformation_n or_o faith_n but_o of_o the_o authority_n only_o by_o which_o those_o decree_n be_v enact_v that_o be_v to_o say_v whether_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n be_v in_o france_n receive_v for_o a_o sentence_n not_o liable_a to_o be_v appeal_v from_o and_o whether_o they_o here_o believe_v those_o article_n wherein_o they_o agree_v with_o the_o council_n implicit_o for_o that_o the_o council_n have_v decree_v they_o for_o how_o shall_v it_o be_v prove_v that_o a_o man_n who_o believe_v a_o thing_n which_o another_o have_v report_v do_v believe_v it_o upon_o
the_o reporter_n credit_n unless_o he_o be_v confident_a withal_o that_o he_o who_o report_v this_o will_v not_o report_v a_o untruth_n and_o that_o he_o dare_v trust_v he_o in_o any_o thing_n but_o france_n now_o do_v not_o believe_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n in_o all_o thing_n for_o our_o adversary_n himself_o confess_v that_o it_o refuse_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n which_o touch_v upon_o reformation_n whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o though_o france_n do_v agree_v in_o opinion_n with_o the_o council_n in_o what_o it_o decree_v concern_v matter_n of_o faith_n yet_o do_v it_o not_o hold_v this_o opinion_n for_o any_o regard_n to_o the_o counsel_n authority_n but_o for_o some_o other_o respect_n else_o may_v he_o conclude_v as_o well_o that_o the_o huguenot_n do_v receive_v the_o say_a council_n for_o that_o they_o believe_v diverse_a article_n of_o it_o which_o be_v against_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o other_o heretic_n of_o our_o time_n for_o even_o as_o they_o refuse_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o say_a council_n in_o that_o very_o same_o part_n whereof_o they_o receive_v the_o article_n so_o may_v we_o as_o well_o refuse_v the_o whole_a council_n and_o yet_o receive_v all_o the_o article_n there_o be_v the_o same_o respect_n from_o the_o article_n of_o one_o part_n to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o same_o part_n as_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a but_o let_v we_o now_o mark_v how_o he_o conclude_v that_o this_o council_n be_v receive_v in_o france_n our_o adversary_n own_o self_n confess_v say_v he_o that_o this_o council_n be_v receive_v by_o the_o bishop_n but_o what_o man_n can_v persuade_v himself_o that_o the_o bishop_n have_v another_o faith_n and_o religion_n from_o that_o profess_a by_o the_o king_n and_o all_o the_o catholic_a people_n for_o how_o may_v the_o king_n be_v style_v the_o most_o christian_a if_o he_o be_v of_o a_o faith_n singular_a from_o the_o bishop_n and_o how_o shall_v the_o people_n be_v call_v the_o lord_n flock_n unless_o they_o acknowledge_v some_o pastor_n see_v then_o this_o in_o brief_a be_v his_o argument_n the_o bishop_n have_v receive_v the_o council_n the_o king_n and_o the_o people_n have_v believe_v the_o bishop_n ergo_fw-la the_o council_n have_v be_v receive_v by_o the_o king_n the_o bishop_n the_o clergy_n and_o likewise_o of_o all_o the_o people_n of_o france_n i_o have_v show_v already_o how_o he_o have_v not_o make_v it_o good_a as_o yet_o that_o the_o bishop_n which_o then_o be_v have_v receive_v it_o and_o for_o the_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n at_o this_o day_n though_o diverse_a of_o they_o for_o the_o advancement_n of_o the_o holy_a league_n have_v endeavour_v to_o cause_v the_o say_a council_n to_o be_v receive_v yet_o may_v the_o king_n and_o the_o people_n refuse_v it_o notwithstanding_o and_o yet_o not_o cease_v for_o all_o that_o to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o faith_n with_o they_o in_o so_o much_o as_o the_o approbation_n of_o that_o council_n be_v not_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n for_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n have_v express_o prohibit_v we_o the_o addition_n of_o any_o other_o article_n of_o faith_n unto_o those_o which_o be_v then_o receive_v in_o which_o number_n the_o receive_n of_o the_o tridentine_a council_n be_v not_o but_o suppose_v that_o they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o same_o faith_n what_o danger_n can_v come_v of_o it_o the_o king_n say_v he_o shall_v not_o then_o be_v most_o christian_a nor_o the_o people_n christ_n his_o flock_n first_o as_o for_o the_o king_n for_o as_o much_o as_o this_o reason_n be_v draw_v from_o his_o title_n i_o say_v that_o if_o the_o king_n be_v the_o great_a heretic_n in_o the_o world_n yet_o shall_v he_o not_o be_v deprive_v of_o his_o title_n henry_n the_o eight_o king_n of_o england_n receive_v the_o title_n of_o defender_n of_o the_o faith_n from_o pope_n leo_fw-la the_o ten_o for_o write_v against_o luther_n king_n edward_n the_o six_o and_o the_o last_o queen_n of_o famous_a memory_n and_o the_o now_o reign_v king_n who_o have_v change_v the_o religion_n for_o defend_v of_o which_o king_n henry_n receive_v this_o title_n do_v still_o keep_v the_o same_o style_n and_o by_o very_o good_a right_n too_o for_o title_n though_o personal_a and_o proper_a only_o to_o the_o first_o of_o the_o race_n that_o receive_v they_o as_o catholic_a to_o ferdinando_n king_n of_o arragon_n defender_n of_o the_o faith_n to_o henry_n the_o eight_o king_n of_o england_n yet_o do_v they_o descend_v unto_o their_o successor_n as_o ornament_n only_o annex_v to_o their_o state_n so_o that_o it_o be_v not_o philip_n of_o austria_n who_o be_v catholic_a in_o that_o sense_n but_o the_o king_n of_o spain_n for_o if_o we_o consider_v of_o king_n only_o in_o point_n of_o religion_n the_o king_n of_o france_n may_v be_v as_o good_a a_o catholic_a as_o the_o king_n of_o spain_n and_o the_o king_n of_o spain_n as_o good_a a_o christian_a as_o the_o king_n of_o france_n and_o yet_o the_o title_n of_o christian_a belong_v only_o unto_o the_o one_o and_o the_o title_n of_o catholic_a to_o the_o other_o but_o above_o all_o be_v this_o reason_n ill_o apply_v against_o the_o king_n of_o france_n for_o that_o christian_a be_v not_o a_o title_n to_o distinguish_v one_o christian_a from_o another_o but_o to_o distinguish_v they_o all_o from_o pagan_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n be_v it_o give_v to_o the_o king_n of_o france_n as_o to_z the_o first_o king_n of_o europe_n that_o abolish_v paganism_n and_o who_o still_o have_v the_o most_o war_n of_o all_o with_o the_o saracen_n enemy_n of_o the_o name_n of_o christ._n true_a it_o be_v that_o this_o title_n may_v incline_v he_o the_o more_o to_o embrace_v that_o doctrine_n which_o be_v best_a but_o for_o that_o it_o have_v not_o be_v hitherto_o agree_v upon_o which_o of_o the_o two_o be_v the_o best_a we_o must_v not_o prove_v one_o doubt_n by_o another_o for_o the_o huguenot_n may_v as_o well_o convert_v this_o reason_n to_o persuade_v the_o king_n to_o reform_v the_o church_n as_o the_o catholic_n use_v it_o to_o incline_v he_o to_o maintain_v the_o romish_a religion_n howbeit_o there_o be_v not_o any_o thing_n that_o the_o king_n can_v do_v more_o worthy_a of_o this_o title_n of_o he_o then_o to_o do_v both_o that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o maintain_v the_o roman_a church_n and_o to_o reform_v it_o neither_o be_v there_o any_o contradiction_n in_o these_o two_o see_v there_o be_v no_o better_a mean_n to_o make_v the_o iron_n endure_v long_o then_o to_o scour_v away_o the_o rust_n nor_o to_o maintain_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n then_o to_o reform_v the_o abuse_n of_o it_o nevertheless_o to_o establish_v such_o a_o course_n that_o any_o of_o the_o iron_n be_v not_o scrape_v away_o in_o stead_n of_o the_o rust_n and_o yet_o see_v that_o it_o be_v bright_a scour_v there_o be_v no_o safe_a mean_n then_o to_o do_v quite_o contrary_a to_o that_o which_o our_o aduersay_n advise_v viz._n to_o let_v their_o council_n of_o trent_n sleep_n and_o to_o call_v another_o wherein_o both_o part_n may_v have_v indifferent_a hear_n by_o which_o mean_n if_o so_o be_v that_o there_o be_v any_o corruption_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n it_o may_v be_v see_v into_o and_o purge_v and_o if_o there_o be_v any_o error_n in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o huguenot_n they_o may_v be_v evict_v and_o instruct_v in_o a_o better_a faith_n and_o this_o be_v the_o way_n to_o reunite_v we_o all_o in_o one_o faith_n and_o this_o will_v be_v a_o act_n indeed_o well_o worthy_a a_o most_o christian_n king_n 3_o but_o descend_v we_o now_o to_o the_o people_n how_o shall_v they_o say_v he_o be_v the_o sheep_n of_o christ_n flock_n if_o so_o be_v they_o acknowledge_v not_o any_o pastor_n i_o answer_v that_o they_o may_v well_o enough_o acknowledge_v their_o pastor_n though_o they_o believe_v not_o just_a as_o the_o pastor_n of_o their_o country_n do_v for_o that_o no_o man_n be_v oblige_v to_o build_v his_o faith_n but_o upon_o a_o infallible_a foundation_n and_o it_o be_v confess_v by_o the_o catholic_n themselves_o that_o all_o the_o bishop_n in_o a_o whole_a country_n may_v err_v in_o point_n of_o faith_n so_o that_o the_o people_n be_v not_o always_o oblige_v to_o ground_v their_o faith_n upon_o that_o of_o their_o bishop_n and_o consequent_o may_v be_v of_o another_o faith_n and_o yet_o be_v of_o the_o flock_n of_o jesus_n christ_n as_o in_o very_a troth_n our_o saviour_n do_v not_o call_v they_o his_o sheep_n which_o hear_v the_o bishop_n but_o those_o that_o hear_v his_o voice_n which_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n let_v we_o now_o look_v upon_o his_o conclusion_n and_o so_o say_v he_o be_v the_o council_n honour_v of_o the_o