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A20679 An aduertisement to the English seminaries, amd [sic] Iesuites shewing their loose kind of writing, and negligent handling the cause of religion, in the whole course of their workes. By Iohn Doue Doctor in Diuinity. Dove, John, 1560 or 61-1618.; Walsingham, Francis, 1577-1647. 1610 (1610) STC 7077; ESTC S115461 57,105 88

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forasmuch_o as_o he_o make_v such_o a_o supposition_n but_o show_v no_o such_o collection_n or_o combination_n in_o our_o service_n book_n neither_o any_o thing_n in_o it_o like_v to_o that_o of_o the_o arrian_n he_o speak_v idle_o and_o to_o no_o purpose_n neither_o be_v any_o thing_n thereby_o derogate_a from_o the_o credit_n of_o our_o service_n book_n to_o the_o recusant_n which_o object_n that_o there_o be_v dissension_n among_o we_o i_o answer_v that_o so_o there_o be_v among_o they_o i_o name_v eckius_fw-la pighius_fw-la thomas_n scotus_n nay_o there_o be_v dissension_n among_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o so_o that_o dissension_n be_v no_o argument_n to_o disinable_a we_o from_o be_v the_o true_a church_n for_o in_o religion_n we_o agree_v m._n walsingham_n charge_v i_o with_o three_o absurdity_n the_o first_o of_o ignorance_n or_o folly_n for_o that_o eckius_fw-la pighius_fw-la thomas_n scotus_n dissent_v only_o in_o matter_n disputable_a and_o not_o determine_v by_o the_o 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another_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o albeit_o some_o particular_a factious_a spirit_n among_o we_o write_v seditious_a pamphlet_n one_o against_o another_o this_o imputation_n can_v just_o be_v lay_v upon_o our_o church_n which_o by_o all_o manner_n of_o good_a mean_n suppress_v dissension_n but_o maintain_v peace_n and_o unity_n thus_o much_o i_o think_v fit_a to_o deliver_v not_o for_o answer_v to_o his_o disgraceful_a speech_n utter_v against_o i_o which_o i_o pass_v over_o with_o silence_n as_o not_o touch_v the_o cause_n of_o religion_n but_o in_o defence_n only_o of_o the_o truth_n which_o i_o take_v in_o hand_n that_o our_o adversarien_n may_v understand_v how_o we_o have_v not_o suffer_v those_o thing_n so_o loose_o to_o pass_v our_o hand_n which_o they_o so_o loose_o have_v publish_v against_o we_o to_o the_o view_n of_o the_o world_n and_o so_o leave_v they_o to_o the_o mercy_n of_o the_o lord_n my_o prayer_n be_v vincat_fw-la christus_fw-la cadat_fw-la haeresis_fw-la that_o falsehood_n may_v still_o be_v detect_v and_o truth_n may_v get_v the_o upper_a hand_n amen_n finis_fw-la ecclesi_n 12._o 12._o 1._o tim._n 3._o 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sixtus_n senensis_n biblioth_n sanctae_fw-la lib._n 4._o rom._n 1._o 14._o 2._o cor._n 4._o 2._o the_o history_n of_o bell_n and_o the_o dragon_n mat._n 3._o 10._o bellar._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n lib._n 1._o c._n 10._o mat._n 16._o 18._o caesar_n bar._n in_o apparat_fw-la 13._o exod._n 8._o 19_o de_fw-fr rom._n pontifice_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 10._o de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 4._o de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 7._o council_n trid._n sess_z 3._o de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o luk._n 16._o 29._o eph._n 2._o 20._o chryss_n hon_n 55._o in_o mat._n lib._n 6._o de_fw-la trinit_fw-la lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr trini●…_n 1_o pet._n 2._o 5._o 1._o cor._n 3._o 11._o