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maâ—imae_fw-la gloriae_fw-la principatusque_fw-la fui_fw-la gratia_fw-la falsos_fw-la ac_fw-la â—oâ—as_fw-la opiniones_fw-la vel_fw-la gigniâ—_n vel_fw-la sequitur_fw-la and_o this_o may_v be_v do_v in_o point_n which_o be_v not_o fundamental_a beside_o how_o many_o be_v account_v heretic_n in_o this_o common_a course_n of_o appellation_n and_o yet_o free_a from_o deny_v the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n for_o we_o find_v leo_n the_o xth._n in_o his_o bull_n against_o luther_n 1â—â—â—_n luther_n 4_o iâ—â—â—â—_n 1â—â—â—_n to_o style_v it_o heresy_n for_o any_o man_n to_o say_v that_o the_o church_n or_o himself_o have_v not_o power_n statuere_fw-la â—rticâ—lâ—s_fw-la fidei_fw-la to_o make_v new_a article_n of_o faith_n as_o also_o that_o luther_n assertion_n be_v no_o less_o optima_fw-la pâ—â—itâ—â—tia_fw-la nouâ—_n vita_fw-la new_a lifâ—_n be_v the_o best_a repentance_n and_o yet_o i_o hope_v the_o jesuite_n will_v remove_v these_o far_o from_o the_o foundation_n and_o if_o the_o pope_n may_v err_v in_o his_o bull_n to_o call_v that_o heresy_n which_o be_v not_o fundamental_a error_n why_o may_v not_o you_o give_v leave_n to_o other_o to_o use_v the_o same_o liberty_n see_v he_o be_v the_o pattern_n of_o imitation_n unless_o you_o think_v the_o pope_n above_o angel_n and_o that_o he_o may_v deliver_v what_o he_o please_v and_o make_v heresy_n what_o he_o listen_v and_o the_o anathema_n that_o thereby_o he_o deserve_v himself_o by_o his_o very_a pleasure_n shall_v fall_v upon_o other_o nay_o you_o have_v go_v further_o de_fw-fr consecrat_fw-mi do_v 5._o cap._n â—t_a jejun_n that_o he_o will_v never_o be_v a_o christian_n qui_fw-la confirmatione_fw-la episcopali_fw-la non_fw-la fuit_fw-la chrismatus_fw-la now_o if_o a_o man_n may_v be_v count_v a_o infidel_n and_o unbeleiver_n by_o you_o for_o omission_n of_o the_o ceremony_n of_o confirmation_n why_o shall_v you_o draw_v from_o the_o liberty_n of_o man_n tongue_n a_o argument_n that_o whosoever_o by_o you_o or_o 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so_o much_o from_o the_o matter_n whether_o fundamental_a or_o not_o as_o from_o the_o perverse_a manner_n of_o hold_v a_o opinion_n against_o any_o one_o conscience_n be_v lawful_o convict_v of_o the_o same_o and_o therefore_o our_o jesuite_n will_v not_o have_v they_o heretic_n that_o deny_v tradition_n image_n etc._n etc._n simple_o by_o a_o bare_a and_o naked_a negation_n but_o wilful_o and_o perverse_o by_o obstinate_a denial_n yet_o will_v our_o answerer_n say_v say_v the_o jesuite_n that_o by_o the_o father_n they_o be_v hold_v but_o only_o as_o opinion_n and_o not_o as_o belong_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o this_o be_v but_o his_o own_o opinion_n for_o wheresoever_o the_o father_n do_v profess_v they_o in_o their_o work_n they_o never_o tell_v he_o that_o they_o hold_v they_o for_o opinion_n rather_o than_o for_o point_n of_o faith_n 9â—_n reply_v pag._n 9â—_n the_o jesuite_n speak_v of_o the_o answerer_n divine_v but_o here_o divine_v amiss_o himself_o &_o 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care_v not_o by_o what_o mean_v they_o establish_v their_o decree_n nor_o
falso_fw-la 415._o ecclesia_fw-la propheâ—â—_n est_fw-la more_o than_o a_o prophet_n propheta_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 224._o plâ—â—quaâ—_n propheta_fw-la yea_o great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n prophetis_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la circ_n false_o 286._o major_a omnibus_fw-la prophetis_fw-la have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o 〈◊〉_d â—iâ—ar_n dicit_fw-la â—iâ—ar_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 416._o spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la vicarium_fw-la dicit_fw-la thus_o we_o see_v what_o judge_n the_o jesuite_n do_v contest_v for_o and_o how_o far_o they_o labour_v to_o extend_v his_o power_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o pope_n who_o be_v not_o only_o a_o prophet_n but_o more_o than_o a_o prophet_n yeaâ—_n great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n who_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o his_o vicâ—â—_n either_o with_o or_o without_o a_o council_n have_v only_o power_n to_o determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n whereby_o we_o may_v know_v what_o to_o believe_v and_o what_o not_o with_o authority_n not_o only_o equal_a but_o superior_a to_o the_o scripture_n now_o what_o strength_n do_v the_o jesuite_n bring_v to_o confirm_v this_o rule_n his_o first_o place_n be_v esay_n liiii_o and_o the_o 17._o thou_o shall_v judge_v every_o tongue_n that_o shall_v resist_v theâ—_n in_o thy_o judgement_n 99_o judgement_n reply_v pag._n 99_o sure_o the_o jesuite_n be_v like_a to_o their_o divine_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n who_o be_v restrain_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o forbid_a schoole-disputes_a bring_v all_o the_o place_n out_o of_o the_o prophet_n and_o psalm_n where_o they_o stand_v the_o word_n confiteor_n and_o its_o verbal_a confissiâ—_n to_o prove_v auricular_a confession_n and_o they_o be_v account_v best_o learn_v who_o bring_v most_o of_o they_o 345._o they_o hist_o council_n tridâ—â—_n l._n 4._o p._n 345._o for_o here_o be_v nothing_o whereby_o to_o make_v the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n of_o controversy_n unless_o he_o will_v conclude_v that_o wheresoever_o judge_n or_o judgement_n be_v express_v it_o be_v mean_v of_o he_o the_o second_o be_v out_o of_o mat._n xi_o and_o the_o 18._o hâ—ll_o gate_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o she_o ibid._n she_o reply_v ibid._n we_o confess_v that_o all_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n shall_v never_o prevail_v against_o the_o church_n but_o we_o say_v this_o church_n be_v neither_o the_o pope_n naked_a nor_o roman_a as_o have_v in_o many_o place_n be_v show_v yet_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v to_o what_o purpose_n this_o text_n be_v here_o produce_v the_o three_o place_n be_v mat._n xviii_o and_o the_o â—7_n hâ—e_n that_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o aâ—_n a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n ibid._n publican_n reply_v ibid._n if_o a_o infallible_a judge_n be_v here_o point_v out_o than_o all_o these_o absurdity_n will_v follow_v first_o that_o every_o particular_a church_n shall_v be_v infallible_a and_o the_o judge_n of_o controversy_n for_o dâ—c_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la have_v relation_n to_o particular_a church_n not_o to_o the_o catholic_a second_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v not_o be_v subject_a to_o error_n in_o criminal_a cause_n if_o this_o place_n point_v out_o a_o infallible_a judgement_n when_o as_o this_o infallibility_n be_v deny_v not_o only_o your_o own_o counsel_n but_o your_o pope_n also_o 3_o if_o the_o church_n judgement_n must_v be_v infallible_a because_o christ_n require_v we_o to_o hear_v the_o church_n how_o can_v the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v exclude_v from_o this_o privilege_n when_o the_o people_n be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o obey_v and_o follow_v they_o heb._n xiii_o 17._o his_o four_o place_n be_v ephes_n four_o ii_o and_o 14._o god_n have_v place_v in_o the_o church_n apostles_n prophet_n pastor_n and_o doctor_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o be_v â—â—_o more_o little_a child_n â—aâ—oring_v with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n ibâ—â—_n doctrine_n reply_v ibâ—â—_n i_o shall_v show_v hereafter_o that_o this_o text_n make_v against_o his_o judge_n his_o monarch_n for_o the_o present_a he_o may_v take_v this_o with_o he_o first_o that_o we_o acknowledge_v as_o long_o as_o the_o church_n have_v apostles_n &_o prophet_n their_o testimony_n be_v divine_a and_o can_v infallible_o direct_v second_o although_o the_o â—aâ—tors_n now_o be_v mean_n ordain_v by_o god_n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o be_v no_o more_o little_a child_n waver_v with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v infallible_a judge_n see_v the_o argument_n may_v as_o well_o hold_v of_o each_o as_o of_o all_o who_o be_v ordain_v to_o the_o same_o end_n which_o i_o think_v the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o acknowledge_v his_o last_o be_v 1._o tim._n 2._o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o foundation_n of_o truth_n ibid._n truth_n reply_v ibid._n what_o therefore_o the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n this_o follow_v not_o for_o he_o be_v the_o rock_n if_o we_o believe_v popish_a interpreter_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v how_o then_o can_v he_o be_v the_o church_n infallible_o to_o direct_v the_o foundation_n sure_o differ_v from_o the_o roof_n the_o church_n that_o be_v build_v from_o the_o rock_n that_o she_o be_v build_v upon_o second_o the_o jesuite_n may_v know_v that_o we_o envy_v not_o the_o privilege_n which_o god_n have_v give_v his_o church_n nay_o he_o be_v no_o member_n of_o she_o that_o shall_v not_o reverence_v she_o with_o obedience_n and_o therefore_o we_o acknowledge_v she_o the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n if_o contain_v the_o apostle_n absolute_o perfect_o if_o without_o the_o apostle_n we_o deny_v not_o her_o counsel_n but_o with_o all_o obedience_n embrace_v they_o if_o she_o command_v as_o she_o be_v limit_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n by_o the_o scripture_n but_o we_o see_v this_o place_n be_v more_o for_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n concern_v which_o the_o apostle_n speak_v literal_o than_o rome_n and_o yet_o experience_n have_v persuade_v we_o that_o there_o be_v no_o infallibility_n there_o further_o than_o this_o some_o of_o your_o own_o dare_v not_o go_v but_o make_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n the_o one_o they_o say_v be_v infallible_a but_o the_o other_o may_v sometime_o deceive_v collegum_fw-la deceive_v panorm_a in_o decret_a de_fw-fr senten_a excom_n cap._n 28._o judicium_fw-la dei_fw-la veritati_fw-la quae_fw-la nec_fw-la fallit_fw-la nec_fw-la fallitur_fw-la semper_fw-la innititur_fw-la judicium_fw-la autem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la aliquando_fw-la sequitur_fw-la opinionem_fw-la quae_fw-la sâ—pè_fw-la fallit_fw-la &_o fallitur_fw-la dry_a de_fw-fr dog_n ecclesl_n 2._o p._n 58._o generale_fw-mi concilium_fw-la papae_fw-la cardinalium_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la doctorum_fw-la â—â—_o scripture_n propheticis_fw-la intelligendis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la tantae_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la quantae_fw-la fuerit_fw-la olim_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la collegum_fw-la for_o ruffinus_n his_o testimony_n that_o s._n basil_n and_o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n do_v take_v the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n not_o according_a to_o their_o own_o proper_a understanding_n but_o according_a to_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o father_n 99_o father_n reply_v p._n 99_o the_o jesuite_n point_v not_o out_o the_o place_n if_o he_o do_v i_o think_v little_a will_v appear_v for_o his_o purpose_n in_o regard_n he_o be_v to_o prove_v the_o authority_n of_o a_o judge_n not_o the_o discretion_n of_o a_o doctor_n and_o who_o doubt_n but_o any_o wise_a interpreter_n will_v use_v all_o mean_n that_o may_v inform_v he_o to_o perform_v his_o work_n but_o let_v ruffian_n pass_v augustine_n make_v a_o outcry_n and_o do_v not_o s._n augustine_n cry_v out_o say_v the_o jesuite_n that_o truth_n repose_v in_o the_o belly_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n etc._n reply_v ibid._n and_o who_o say_v 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7._o beginning_n reply_v pag._n 7._o again_o he_o charge_v the_o learned_a answerer_n page_n 12._o to_o denounce_v their_o opinion_n heresy_n far_o spread_v and_o of_o long_a continuance_n which_o he_o impute_v to_o forgetfulness_n till_o he_o remember_v himself_o that_o they_o be_v not_o exempt_v from_o be_v heresy_n by_o the_o answerer_n but_o from_o be_v such_o as_o do_v open_o oppose_v the_o foundation_n of_o our_o faith_n ibid._n faith_n ibid._n so_o that_o these_o say_n may_v stand_v well_o together_o notwithstanding_o any_o thing_n he_o have_v as_o yet_o utter_v but_o he_o tell_v we_o if_o the_o differ_a point_n be_v heresy_n that_o never_o any_o do_v more_o open_o oppose_v the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n then_o they_o and_o to_o prove_v this_o he_o produce_v the_o point_n of_o adoration_n of_o the_o host_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o which_o he_o make_v no_o question_n but_o every_o man_n will_v easy_o understand_v that_o if_o hell_n be_v rake_v up_o a_o more_o notorious_a 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〈◊〉_d animaâ—â—_n 〈…〉_o &_o extinguâ—_n 〈…〉_o dixitque_fw-la 〈…〉_o die_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d contra_fw-la articulum_fw-la de_fw-la resurrectione_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr premissis_fw-la fuit_fw-la &_o est_fw-la dictus_fw-la joannes_n papa_n apud_fw-la clerum_fw-la &_o populuae_fw-la gravites_fw-la diâ—â—aâ—atuâ—_n sicque_fw-la ut_fw-la praediciâ—â—r_fw-la fuit_fw-la dictum_fw-la tentum_fw-la creditum_fw-la &_o reputatum_fw-la diciâ—urque_fw-la tenetur_fw-la creditur_fw-la &_o reputatur_fw-la palà m_fw-la publicâ—_fw-la &_o notoriê_fw-la the_o xxiiith_o do_v how_o will_v he_o stop_v his_o mouth_n do_v you_o think_v that_o he_o will_v be_v force_v from_o necessity_n to_o urge_v the_o scripture_n why_o the_o 〈◊〉_d urge_v they_o here_o and_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o he_o can_v be_v content_a with_o they_o in_o other_o matter_n also_o if_o they_o will_v afford_v they_o the_o like_a â—â—elter_n but_o those_o that_o be_v strangle_v must_v needs_o make_v mouth_n though_o they_o can_v speak_v nothing_o 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reply_v pag._n 9_o whatsoever_o the_o jesuite_n pretend_v there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n in_o josephus_n whereby_o he_o can_v prove_v the_o beginning_n of_o the_o sadducee_n their_o opinion_n of_o deny_v angel_n or_o indeed_o when_o they_o begin_v to_o be_v a_o sect_n for_o in_o the_o place_n antiâ—â—â—â—_n place_n lib._n 1â—_n antiâ—â—â—â—_n allege_v by_o he_o josephus_n tell_v we_o that_o there_o be_v three_o sect_n among_o the_o jew_n one_o of_o the_o pharisee_n a_o other_o of_o the_o sadducee_n &_o the_o three_o of_o the_o essenes_n who_o be_v account_v sect_n not_o in_o their_o inchoation_n but_o perfection_n about_o 143._o year_n before_o christ_n in_o the_o time_n of_o this_o high_a priest_n and_o the_o same_o author_n in_o a_o other_o place_n 〈…〉_o place_n 〈…〉_o express_v thing_n do_v some_o 11._o year_n after_o christ_n show_v that_o the_o jew_n be_v divide_v into_o sect_n a_o 〈◊〉_d retrò_fw-la 〈◊〉_d which_o can_v not_o be_v if_o they_o begin_v in_o the_o time_n assign_v by_o 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dicimus_fw-la propositionem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la esse_fw-la conditionem_fw-la necessariam_fw-la ad_fw-la assensum_fw-la fidei_fw-la â—_o nomine_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la intelligimus_fw-la ejus_fw-la caput_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la romanum_fw-la pontificem_fw-la pierce_v vel_fw-la unâ_fw-la cum_fw-la concilio_n ex_fw-la praedicta_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la propositiones_fw-la fidei_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la declarantem_fw-la either_o with_o or_o without_o a_o council_n est_fw-la council_n ibid._n punct_a 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la quando_fw-la oriantur_fw-la controversiae_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la in_o ijs_fw-la definiendis_fw-la à _fw-la veritaâ—â—_n aberrare_fw-la haec_fw-la autem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la infallibilis_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la ad_fw-la definiendum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la in_o singulis_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la quip_n qui_fw-la sine_fw-la controversiâ_fw-la possunt_fw-la errare_fw-la singuli_fw-la neque_fw-la est_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la omninò_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la frustra_fw-la enim_fw-la data_fw-la illis_fw-la esset_fw-la cùm_fw-la â—ieri_fw-la vix_fw-la possit_fw-la in_fw-la fidei_fw-la causis_fw-la ut_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la illis_fw-la sigillatim_fw-la sententia_fw-la dicatur_fw-la sed_fw-la residet_fw-la summa_fw-la illa_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la in_o christi_fw-la vicario_n sâ—â—â—â—o_fw-la pontifice_fw-la sive_fw-la unâ_fw-la cum_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concilio_n sive_fw-la absque_fw-la concilio_n res_fw-la fidei_fw-la definite_a velit_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n l._n 4._o c._n 3._o summus_n pontifex_fw-la cùm_fw-la to_o tam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la docet_fw-la in_o his_o quae_fw-la ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la pertinent_a nullo_n easu_fw-la errare_fw-la potest_fw-la constat_fw-la generalia_fw-la concilia_fw-la saepè_fw-la errasse_fw-la quando_fw-la caruâ—â—unt_fw-la summi_fw-la pontificis_fw-la suffragio_fw-la exit_fw-la quo_fw-la apparet_fw-la totam_fw-la firmitatem_fw-la concilioâ—um_fw-la legitimorum_fw-la esse_fw-la â_fw-la pontifice_fw-la non_fw-la partim_fw-la à _fw-la pontifice_fw-la partim_fw-la à _fw-la concilio_n staplâ—ton_n relect_v prinâ—_n doctr_n contr_n 6._o quaest_n 3._o in_o explicatar_n 5._o potestas_fw-la &_o infallibilitâ—s_fw-la papalis_fw-la est_fw-la potestas_fw-la &_o gratia_fw-la personalis_fw-la personae_fw-la petri_n &_o successorum_fw-la ejus_fw-la à _fw-la christo_fw-la data_fw-la majoritas_fw-la discretionis_fw-la &_o maturitas_fw-la judicij_fw-la si_fw-la de_fw-la scientia_fw-la rerum_fw-la sacrarum_fw-la intelligatur_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la concilium_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o theologoâ—â—m_fw-la collegium_fw-la imò_fw-la unus_fw-la aliquis_fw-la theologus_fw-la pontificem_fw-la facilè_fw-la superabit_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la de_fw-la judicio_fw-la fidei_fw-la &_o determinationâ—_n sensus_fw-la scripturae_fw-la quem_fw-la credere_fw-la oporteat_fw-la intelligatur_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la concilium_fw-la supra_fw-la papam_fw-la sed_fw-la unus_fw-la papa_n petri_n successor_n cvi_fw-la uni_fw-la christus_fw-la indeâ—ectibâ—hâ—atem_fw-la fidei_fw-la impetravit_fw-la super_fw-la omnes_fw-la est_fw-la it_o matter_n not_o so_o likewise_o they_o be_v delude_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o error_n in_o give_v the_o power_n they_o do_v to_o this_o external_a judge_n for_o our_o jesuite_n will_v have_v the_o judge_n to_o be_v the_o rule_n whereby_o to_o discover_v which_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o which_o not_o the_o manner_n how_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o before_o whatsoever_o he_o say_v be_v faith_n must_v needs_o be_v so_o let_v it_o be_v with_o a_o council_n or_o without_o other_o make_v the_o pope_n authority_n equal_a to_o the_o scripture_n interpretando_fw-la scripture_n christophorus_n de_fw-fr sacrobosâ—o_n defence_n decr._n triden_n part_v â—_o c._n 6._o dico_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n authoritatem_fw-la parem_fw-la esse_fw-la authoritad_v scripturae_fw-la &_o ratio_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la unuâ—_n &_o idem_fw-la deus_fw-la qui_fw-la regebat_fw-la apostolos_fw-la &_o prophetas_fw-la ne_fw-la eâ—â—arent_fw-la scribendo_fw-la diright_a ecclesiam_fw-la ne_fw-la labatur_fw-la in_o interpretando_fw-la to_o the_o uâ—yce_n of_o god._n neither_o will_v they_o have_v their_o pope_n or_o church_n only_o equal_a to_o the_o scripture_n but_o also_o somewhat_o superior_a thereunto_o scripturaâ—um_fw-la thereunto_o albert._n pighius_fw-la l._n 1._o hierat_fw-la eccles_n c._n 2._o dicit_fw-la non_fw-la soâ—â—â—_n non_fw-la inferâ—orem_fw-la non_fw-la solâ—m_fw-la parem_fw-la imo_fw-la quodammodò_fw-la â—â—periorem_fw-la &_o â—â—otiorem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la autoritatem_fw-la autoritaâ—â—_n scripturaâ—um_fw-la for_o the_o church_n be_v a_o prophet_n est_fw-la prophet_n defensor_fw-la johannis_n pistorâ—â—_n
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