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A01011 The totall summe. Or No danger of damnation vnto Roman Catholiques for any errour in faith nor any hope of saluation for any sectary vvhatsoeuer that doth knovvingly oppose the doctrine of the Roman Church. This is proued by the confessions, and sayings of M. William Chillingvvorth his booke. Floyd, John, 1572-1649. 1639 (1639) STC 11117; ESTC S118026 62,206 105

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