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A12552 The character of the beast, or, The false constitution of the church discovered in certayne passages betwixt Mr. R. Clifton & Iohn Smyth, concerning true Christian baptisme of new creatures, or new borne babes in Christ, &nd false baptisme of infants borne after the flesh : referred to two propositions, 1. That infants are not to bee baptized, 2. That antichristians converted are to bee admitted into the true church by baptisme. Smyth, John, d. 1612. 1609 (1609) STC 22875; ESTC S991 85,221 80

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the_o keeper_n &_o all_o that_o belong_v unto_o he_o we_o 33._o both_o which_o seem_v to_o be_v great_a family_n it_o be_v not_o likely_a that_o they_o be_v without_o child_n though_o the_o evang_v mention_v they_o not_o but_o the_o exception_n be_v that_o only_a such_o as_o do_v confess_v their_o sin_n &_o confess_v their_o faith_n be_v baptize_v i_o desire_v that_o to_o be_v prove_v that_o only_o such_o &_o no_o other_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v concern_v john_n indeed_o he_o be_v send_v to_o call_v the_o people_n to_o repentance_n &_o so_o to_o prepare_v the_o way_n of_o the_o l._n mat._n 3.3_o &_o so_o many_o as_o do_v repent_v &_o confess_v their_o sin_n he_o baptize_v but_o do_v john_n refuse_v their_o child_n if_o they_o bring_v they_o to_o he_o but_o it_o will_v be_v say_v there_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v that_o he_o do_v baptise_v they_o no_o more_o say_v i_o be_v there_o that_o they_o be_v offer_v unto_o he_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n that_o the_o disciple_n of_o chr._n 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as_o plain_o &_o full_o set_v down_o these_o particular_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n or_o else_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v not_o so_o plain_a as_o the_o old_a &_o christ_n be_v not_o as_o faithful_a a●_n moses_n for_o it_o have_v be_v easy_o say_v go_v teach_v make_v disciple_n &_o baptise_v they_o &_o if_o they_o have_v any_o infant_n baptise_v they_o without_o teach_v they_o or_o thus_o baptise_v i_o of_o year_n when_o they_o confess_v their_o sin_n &_o their_o faith_n but_o baptise_v all_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a though_o they_o can_v confess_v at_o all_o their_o sin_n &_o say_v or_o it_o have_v beme_fw-mi easy_o say_v john_n baptize_v they_o that_o confess_v their_o sin_n &_o their_o young_a child_n also_o but_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n john_n &_o the_o apostle_n leave_v direction_n for_o this_o main_a matter_n only_o by_o dark_a obscure_a far_o fetch_v probable_a conjecture_n &_o consequent_n from_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o be_v only_o typical_a &_o be_v 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out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n prove_v justification_n by_o faith_n without_o work_n for_o the_o jew_n will_v not_o believe_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o law_n or_o without_o warrant_n of_o the_o law_n &_o the_o gentile_n namely_o the_o galatian_n especial_o be_v seduce_v by_o they_o of_o the_o circumcision_n act._n 15.1_o must_v needs_o have_v their_o mouth_n step_v by_o the_o law_n &_o there_o be_v no_o scripture_n but_o the_o old_a testament_n &_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n can_v not_o be_v so_o plain_o draw_v out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n without_o consequent_n but_o new_a the_o new_a testament_n be_v write_v &_o all_o the_o ordinance_n thereof_o plain_o teach_v by_o christ_n &_o his_o apostle_n why_o shall_v we_o be_v send_v to_o obscuritye_n &_o conjectural_a consequent_n see_v that_o we_o may_v with_o open_a face_n look_v into_o the_o glory_n of_o christ_n as_o it_o be_v into_o a_o glass_n &_o therein_o see_v all_o the_o beauty_n of_o the_o new_a jerusalem_n as_o clear_v as_o crystal_n revel_v 21.11_o 2._o cor._n 3.18_o &_o whereas_o you_o will_v fetch_v argument_n from_o the_o old_a testament_n to_o prove_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n we_o have_v the_o clear_a light_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n you_o therein_o set_v we_o to_o school_n to_o the_o rudiment_n of_o the_o world_n &_o put_v aside_o the_o light_n of_o the_o sun_n at_o noon_n &_o set_v up_o a_o candle_n as_o the_o papist_n do_v in_o their_o funeral_n for_o although_o it_o be_v meet_v that_o we_o attend_v unto_o the_o prophet_n as_o unto_o a_o light_n shine_v in_o a_o dark_a place_n yet_o see_v the_o day_n star_n be_v come_v &_o the_o sun_n of_o righteousness_n be_v rise_v upon_o we_o let_v we_o walk_v in_o this_o clear_a light_n &_o use_v the_o
by_o john_n &_o christ_n particular_o which_o must_v be_v declare_v by_o confession_n therefore_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a for_o they_o to_o offer_v their_o infant_n who_o they_o know_v john_n &_o christ_n will_v not_o baptise_v but_o exclude_v from_o baptism_n by_o their_o doctrine_n again_o whereas_o you_o say_v there_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v that_o christ_n disciple_n be_v baptize_v &_o yet_o it_o be_v boldness_n to_o affirm_v they_o be_v not_o baptize_v &_o so_o all_o christ_n &_o johns_n action_n be_v not_o write_v but_o only_o the_o sum_n &_o therefore_o though_o it_o be_v not_o mention_v that_o infant_n be_v baptize_v yet_o in_o the_o sum_n it_o may_v be_v collect_v they_o be_v i_o answer_v for_o the_o disciple_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v plain_a they_o be_v baptize_v joh._n 4.1_o &_o joh._n 1.35.40_o &_o for_o the_o sum_n &_o particularise_v of_o all_o john_n baptist_n or_o christ_n action_n i_o say_v it_o be_v not_o needful_a to_o set_v down_o the_o particular_n but_o the_o kind_n &_o if_o there_o have_v be_v any_o commandment_n or_o example_n of_o baptise_v any_o one_o infant_n it_o have_v be_v sufficient_a though_o it_o have_v not_o be_v mention_v how_o many_o particular_a infant_n but_o as_o it_o fall_v out_o in_o circumcision_n that_o one_o particular_a precept_n be_v sufficient_a though_o it_o be_v not_o write_v how_o many_o thousand_o be_v circumcise_v so_o likewise_o of_o baptism_n finaly_n for_o that_o you_o say_v of_o the_o eunuch_n though_o i_o intend_v it_o not_o as_o you_o answer_v i●_n i_o think_v that_o some_o mention_n shall_v be_v make_v of_o philip_n to_o the_o eunuch_n or_o of_o the_o eunuch_n to_o philip_n his_o infant_n or_o child_n be_v at_o home_n far_o of_o concern_v infant_n or_o at_o least_o of_o some_o other_o that_o have_v infant_n or_o do_v baptis●_n person_n that_o have_v infant_n &_o that_o after_o this_o manner_n what_o have_v you_o any_o infant_n let_v they_o be_v bring_v to_o baptism_n aswell_o as_o your_o selus_fw-la for_o they_o have_v title_n to_o it_o through_o your_o faith_n or_o thus_o i_o have_v infant_n i_o pray_v you_o let_v they_o be_v baptize_v aswell_o as_o myself_o or_o thus_o do_v you_o repent_v &_o you_o shall_v be_v baptize_v &_o your_o infant_n but_o the_o deep_a silence_n of_o infant_n baptism_n yea_o the_o exclusive_a condition_n of_o believe_v &_o repent_v necessary_a to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n yea_o &_o the_o confession_n of_o sin_n &_o confession_n of_o faith_n perform_v by_o person_n baptize_v yea_o &_o christ_n commandment_n of_o make_v disciple_n before_o baptism_n all_o these_o &_o many_o mo_z be_v strong_a profess_v unanswerable_a against_o baptism_n of_o infant_n mr_n rich._n clifton_n the_o next_o reason_n be_v this_o 2_o because_o christ_n command_v to_o make_v disciple_n by_o teach_v they_o &_o then_o to_o baptise_v they_o matth._n 28.19_o john_n 4.1_o but_o infant_n can_v not_o by_o doctrine_n become_v christ_n disciple_n and_o so_o can_v not_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n be_v baptize_v answer_n 1._o the_o apostle_n be_v indeed_o command_v to_o make_v disciple_n &_o to_o call_v unto_o the_o faith_n &_o fellowship_n of_o the_o gospel_n not_o only_o the_o jew_n but_o the_o gentile_n through_o out_o the_o world_n mat._n 28_o 19_o &_o give_v they_o power_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n which_o before_o have_v be_v preach_v to_o abraham_n gal._n 3.8_o &_o to_o baptise_v all_o that_o do_v receive_v it_o &_o thus_o we_o grant_v that_o faith_n must_v go_v before_o baptism_n in_o all_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v make_v disciple_n &_o bring_v into_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n so_o go_v faith_n before_o circumcision_n abraham_n first_o believe_v &_o after_o be_v circumcise_v &_o likewise_o must_v all_o they_o which_o with_o abraham_n enter_v into_o god_n covenant_n first_o believe_v &_o then_o be_v baptize_v as_o the_o eunuch_n act._n 8.37_o lydia_n act._n 16.13_o &_o the_o keeper_n of_o the_o prison_n act._n 16.33_o but_o when_o such_o have_v 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