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A12484 Of the author and substance of the protestant church and religion two bookes. Written first in Latin by R.S. Doctour of Diuinity, and now reuiewed by the author, and translated into English by VV. Bas.; De auctore et essentia Protestanticae Ecclesiae et religionis libri duo. English Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.; Bas., W. 1621 (1621) STC 22812; ESTC S117611 239,031 514

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of_o they_o remain_v in_o all_o popery_n in_o all_o
mass_n and_o book_n thus_o luther_n 2._o in_o like_a manner_n the_o protestant_n in_o sleidan_n lib._n 1._o fol._n 258_o the_o pope_n make_v law_n by_o which_o true_a knowledge_n be_v utter_o oppress_v melancthon_n tom_n 2._o lutheri_fw-la fol._n 192_o scholastical_a divinity_n be_v receive_v faith_n be_v destroy_v the_o doctrine_n of_o work_n be_v admit_v the_o magdeburgian_o praefat._v centur._n 5_o religion_n extreme_a abolition_n of_o religion_n there_o be_v a_o extreme_a abolition_n of_o true_a religion_n and_o the_o word_n of_o god_n under_o popery_n caluin_n praefat._n institut_fw-la in_o former_a age_n man_n have_v extinguish_v the_o light_n of_o god_n and_o 1._o institut_fw-la cap._n 11._o §_o 9_o many_o age_n since_o true_a religion_n be_v drown_v and_o overthrow_v 4._o institut_fw-la cap._n 2._o §_o 2_o bury_v the_o substance_n of_o christianity_n bury_v under_o popery_n that_o doctrine_n without_o which_o christianity_n can_v consist_v be_v all_o bury_v and_o shut_v out_o 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4._o pag._n 418._o &_o seq_n these_o error_n be_v settle_v and_o establish_v by_o public_a authority_n draw_v after_o they_o a_o great_a ruin_n wherewith_o they_o whole_o destroy_v the_o doctrine_n of_o justice_n before_o god_n and_o free_a remission_n of_o sin_n and_o pag._n 439_o school_n divinity_n cue_n te_fw-mi trample_v and_o extinguish_v the_o least_o sparkle_v of_o pure_a doctrine_n extinguish_v the_o least_o sparkle_v extinguish_v touch_v the_o law_n the_o gospel_n faith_n and_o justification_n before_o god_n and_o pag_n 4●3_n they_o have_v quite_o take_v away_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o law_n and_o the_o gospel_n vigand_n lib._n de_fw-fr bonis_fw-la &_o mal●s_fw-la germaniae_fw-la the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o law_n and_o the_o gospel_n be_v quite_o blot_v out_o after_o the_o apostle_n tym_fw-mi out_o quite_o blot_v out_o the_o magdeburgi●ns_v pre●_n c●●tur_fw-la 13._o the_o doctrine_n of_o say_v without_o work_n be_v extinct_a the_o matter_n itself_o show_v that_o pure_a doctrine_n be_v utter_o suppress_v kemnice_n in_o l●cis_fw-la part_n 2._o ●●t_n de_fw-fr justificat_fw-la pag._n 246_o in_o all_o age_n the_o light_n of_o wholesome_a doctrine_n touch_v justification_n first_o decay_v after_o more_o and_o more_o obscure_v and_o last_o be_v plain_o lose_v and_o extinguish_v and_o pag._n 244_o lose_v plain_o lose_v in_o our_o time_n god_n have_v restore_v the_o doctrine_n of_o justification_n out_o of_o most_o thick_a darkness_n and_o humius_fw-la praesat_n lib._n de_fw-fr libero_fw-la arbit_fw-la the_o article_n of_o ●ustification_n be_v by_o luther_n bring_v into_o light_n of_o out_o of_o the_o more_o than_o chymerian_a darkness_n of_o former_a age_n thus_o the_o lutheran_n 6._o the_o like_a confession_n make_v the_o sacramentary_n for_o thus_o write_v caluin_n respon_n ad_fw-la sadolet_n pag._n 125_o we_o say_v that_o doctrine_n of_o justification_n by_o only_a faith_n be_v by_o you_o blot_v out_o of_o the_o memory_n memory_n blot_v 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thus_o say_v luther_n lib._n de_fw-la captiu_fw-la babylon_n tom_n 2._o fol_z 76_o but_o now_o faith_n be_v not_o speak_v of_o the_o church_n be_v extinguish_v by_o infinite_a law_n of_o work_n and_o ceremony_n respon_n ad_fw-la catharin_n fol._n 140._o after_o he_o have_v say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v conceive_v form_v bear_v nourish_v and_o consern_v only_o by_o the_o vocal_a word_n he_o add_v extinguish_v extinguish_v by_o the_o pope_n and_o papist_n the_o vocal_a gospel_n be_v choke_v and_o extinct_a be_v silent_a through_o all_o the_o world_n tom._n 3._o in_o psal_n 17._o fol._n 285_o and_o now_o that_o common_a sort_n of_o preacher_n reprobate_a what_o propose_v it_o to_o we_o in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o deed_n of_o saint_n but_o some_o small_a work_n until_o faith_n be_v extinguish_v there_o become_v nothing_o but_o heathenish_a superstition_n where_o once_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v the_o name_n only_o of_o the_o church_n leave_v leave_v name_v only_o of_o the_o 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tom_n 2._o fol._n 334._o write_v that_o popery_n be_v the_o most_o pestilent_a abomination_n of_o satan_n which_o have_v be_v or_o hereafter_o shall_v be_v under_o heaven_n and_o in_o cap._n 25._o genes_n tom_fw-mi 6._o fol._n 342_o popery_n be_v a_o congregation_n of_o devil_n and_o of_o most_o wicked_a man_n and_o lib._n cont_n papatum_fw-la tom_n 7._o fol._n 479._o say_v it_o be_v the_o last_o mischief_n of_o the_o world_n and_o to_o which_o all_o the_o devil_n with_o all_o their_o cunning_a &_o power_n can_v bring_v a_o great_a 101._o caluin_n ad_fw-la vs●_n sipel_v pag._n 360._o whitak_n count_v 2._o q_o 6_o c._n 1._o ochin_n di●l_n 25._o horn_n of_o the_o su●r_n p._n 101._o other_o say_v that_o popery_n be_v the_o body_n of_o satan_n and_o antichrist_n the_o dungeon_n of_o error_n &_o heresy_n that_o it_o be_v worse_o they_o any_o sect_n of_o heretic_n yea_o then_o paganism_n or_o turkism_n and_o almost_o all_o of_o they_o cry_v that_o it_o be_v the_o synagogue_n of_o satan_n and_o antichrist_n moreover_o luther_n in_o act_v exustionis_fw-la decretalium_fw-la tom_n 2._o fol._n 123._o pronounce_v that_o it_o be_v safe_a live_v in_o the_o wilderness_n to_o see_v no_o man_n then_o to_o converse_v in_o the_o popish_a kingdom_n and_o in_o cap._n 2._o galat._n tom_n 5._o fol._n 327_o whosoever_o be_v earnest_o affect_v towards_o godliness_n let_v he_o tremble_v at_o the_o name_n of_o popery_n and_o protestant_n common_o gather_v out_o of_o that_o say_n of_o the_o apocalips_n go_v out_o my_o people_n that_o it_o be_v the_o commandment_n of_o god_n that_o all_o pious_a man_n shall_v go_v out_o of_o popery_n if_o then_o popery_n be_v the_o synagogue_n of_o satan_n and_o antichrist_n &_o worse_o than_o any_o heretical_a turkish_a or_o heathenish_a company_n or_o any_o other_o who_o all_o the_o devil_n which_o all_o their_o cunning_n can_v raise_v if_o all_o pious_a man_n ought_v to_o tremble_v at_o the_o hear_n of_o the_o name_n thereof_o and_o rather_o live_v in_o 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burn_v melancthon_n also_o acknowledge_v the_o like_a as_o it_o appear_v by_o these_o word_n of_o luther_n in_o a_o letter_n to_o he_o tom_fw-mi 9_o wittenberg_n germ._n fol._n 416._o thou_o write_v leader_n author_n &_o leader_n that_o for_o my_o authoritye_n sake_n thou_o do_v follow_v i_o as_o the_o author_n and_o leader_n or_o captain_n in_o this_o matter_n behold_v how_o melancthon_n account_v luther_n the_o author_n and_o what_o suspicion_n be_v there_o that_o melancthon_n shall_v in_o this_o matter_n write_v otherwise_o to_o he_o then_o he_o think_v schusselburg_n tom_n 8._o catal._n pag._n 363._o define_v true_a lutheran_n or_o protestant_n to_o be_v those_o who_o embrace_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n amend_v popish_a abuse_n of_o which_o amendment_n say_v he_o luther_n be_v the_o author_n and_o the_o same_o mean_v they_o who_o call_v luther_n the_o author_n of_o the_o protestant_a reformation_n for_o they_o protest_v amendment_n or_o reformation_n be_v indeed_o as_o have_v be_v show_v before_o a_o substantial_a mutation_n or_o change_n of_o religion_n and_o therefore_o the_o author_n of_o such_o a_o amendment_n or_o reformation_n be_v indeed_o the_o author_n of_o a_o new_a church_n and_o religion_n d._n sutclive_a lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 3._o pag._n 237._o write_v in_o this_o manner_n who_o be_v the_o first_o author_n of_o raise_v the_o church_n fall_v down_o author_n author_n as_o cranmer_n and_o other_o our_o bishop_n also_o luther_n zuinglius_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o cap._n 7._o pag._n 328._o the_o prince_n who_o first_o follow_v the_o author_n of_o restore_a religion_n osiander_n in_o sleidan_n fol._n 22._o say_v that_o luther_n &_o melancthon_n have_v make_v a_o certain_a divinity_n which_o savour_v more_o the_o flesh_n than_o the_o spirit_n maker_n maker_n lobechius_n disput_fw-la 1._o pag._n 26._o call_v luther_n the_o first_o deviser_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o auspurg_n deviser_n deviser_n and_o melchior_n neofanius_n pastor_n of_o the_o church_n of_o brunswich_n in_o loc_n kemnitij_fw-la part_n 2._o say_v how_o much_o do_v all_o duchland_n owe_v to_o worthy_a luther_n for_o his_o great_a desert_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o pure_a religion_n author_n author_n d._n covel_n also_o in_o his_o defence_n of_o hooker_n art_n 19_o pag._n 130._o plain_o confess_v that_o some_o protestant_n make_v luther_n and_o caluin_n author_n of_o the_o religion_n which_o they_o hold_v and_o m._n horn_n in_o his_o harbour_n make_v england_n speak_v in_o this_o manner_n begetter_n begetter_n i_o be_o thy_o country_n england_n which_o bring_v forth_o bless_v man_n john_n wiclise_n who_o beget_v hus_n who_o beget_v luther_n who_o beget_v truth_n and_o hereupon_o it_o arise_v that_o as_o rescius_fw-la in_o his_o ministromachia_n p._n 15._o report_v the_o lutheran_n call_v islebium_n where_o luther_n be_v bear_v their_o new_a bethleem_n bethleem_n a_o new_a bethleem_n forsooth_o because_o there_o be_v bear_v their_o new_a messiah_n the_o begetter_n author_n and_o founder_n of_o their_o religion_n mark_v now_o reader_n how_o luther_n by_o his_o own_o and_o other_o protestant_n confession_n be_v the_o first_o to_o who_o protestant_a doctrine_n be_v reveal_v lay_v the_o first_o foundation_n of_o the_o protestant_a cause_n be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o protestant_a amendment_n or_o reformation_n be_v the_o deviser_n of_o the_o first_o protestant_a confession_n be_v the_o herostratus_n of_o the_o protestant_a fire_n final_o be_v the_o leader_n maker_n begetter_n and_o author_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n and_o religion_n which_o be_v in_o plain_a term_n the_o very_a same_o which_o in_o all_o this_o book_n i_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v just_o therefore_o may_v protestant_n sing_v to_o luther_n as_o lucretius_n do_v to_o his_o epicure_n the_o author_n &_o beginner_n of_o epicurism_n 3._o lib._n 3._o those_o also_o of_o basse_fw-fr be_v not_o ashamed_a in_o the_o epitaph_n of_o his_o tomb_n to_o call_v oecolampadius_n the_o first_o author_n of_o evangelicall_a doctrine_n in_o that_o city_n as_o report_n hospin_n and_o lavather_o in_o their_o hostory_n a_o 1531._o and_o junius_n lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 8._o neither_o be_v it_o peculiar_a to_o luther_n to_o spread_v devise_n under_o the_o name_n of_o religion_n for_o thus_o write_v jezler_n de_fw-fr bello_fw-la euchar._n fol._n 26._o of_o minister_n matter_n devise_v of_o some_o few_o we_o thrust_v upon_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o king_n henry_n 8._o when_o he_o begin_v to_o incline_v to_o protestancie_n set_v forth_o article_n with_o this_o title_n article_n devise_v of_o his_o majesty_n 6._o and_o from_o this_o evidence_n &_o acknowledgement_n that_o luther_n be_v the_o author_n of_o protestant_a religion_n it_o proceed_v first_o that_o luther_n oftentimes_o call_v it_o his_o doctrine_n his_o gospel_n his_o word_n his_o cause_n his_o part_n for_o so_o he_o speak_v tom_n 1._o fol._n 138._o tom_n 2._o fol._n 23._o doctrine_n protestancy_n be_v luther_n doctrine_n 29._o
also_o in_o that_o name_n it_o can_v be_v say_v that_o they_o be_v call_v so_o in_o disgrace_n or_o contempt_n four_o it_o appear_v to_o be_v false_a that_o d._n morton_n lib._n cit_fw-la and_o d._n sutlive_v lib._n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 2._o say_v it_o be_v rather_o to_o be_v attribute_v to_o a_o lie_n then_o to_o luther_n desert_n that_o protestant_n call_v themselves_o lutheran_n for_o as_o we_o see_v luther_n himself_o call_v they_o so_o and_o therein_o they_o follow_v his_o example_n neither_o skill_v it_o that_o luther_n do_v once_o dislike_v this_o name_n because_o he_o do_v oftentimes_o use_v it_o &_o it_o be_v usual_a to_o luther_n to_o allow_v and_o disallow_v the_o same_o thing_n five_o we_o see_v it_o to_o be_v false_a which_o d._n whitaker_n write_v count_v 2_o quest_n 5._o cap._n 2_o pag._n 494_o none_o of_o we_o ever_o call_v himself_o a_o lutheran_n we_o acknowledge_v not_o these_o name_n nor_o be_v we_o delight_v with_o they_o this_o name_n our_o adversary_n have_v 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to_o have_v be_v before_o luther_n time_n by_o any_o probable_a argument_n or_o sufficient_a testimony_n chap._n xv._o the_o ten_o and_o last_o demonstration_n for_o to_o prove_v that_o luther_n be_v the_o first_o author_n of_o the_o protestant_n church_n and_o religion_n i_o will_v take_v from_o hence_o that_o albeit_o protestant_n do_v sometime_o bold_o affirm_v their_o church_n and_o religion_n to_o have_v be_v before_o luther_n time_n yet_o they_o can_v never_o prove_v it_o by_o any_o reasonable_a argument_n or_o sufficient_a testimony_n which_o thing_n alone_o will_v suffice_v to_o show_v that_o as_o i_o say_v before_o it_o be_v a_o fable_n vain_o feign_v false_o affirm_v and_o fond_o believe_v it_o have_v be_v always_o the_o fashion_n of_o heretic_n bold_o to_o avouch_v any_o thing_n but_o few_o thing_n to_o prove_v even_o in_o show_n this_o s._n augustin_n do_v often_o observe_v in_o the_o manichee_n and_o donatist_n and_o some_o of_o his_o say_n we_o have_v allege_v before_o of_o eunomius_n s._n eunom_fw-la s._n lib._n 2._o cont_n eunom_fw-la basil_n note_v the_o same_o and_o s._n 118._o s._n serm._n 6._o in_o psal_n 118._o ambrose_n of_o all_o heretic_n say_v heretic_n be_v wolf_n they_o can_v howl_v but_o prove_v nothing_o and_o this_o do_v protestant_n confess_v for_o thus_o d._n whitaker_n count_v 2_o quest_n 5._o cap_n 18_o heretic_n be_v wont_a to_o boast_v and_o promise_v truth_n diatrib_n in_o diatrib_n but_o not_o to_o prove_v it_o of_o luther_n thus_o write_v zuinglius_fw-la tom_n 2._o fol._n 473._o and_o 509_o one_o argument_n he_o have_v in_o all_o these_o matter_n he_o say_v it_o and_o fol._n 447_o luther_n rely_v only_o upon_o his_o ●oyes_n and_o devise_n fol._n 395_o thou_o put_v forth_o whatsoever_o the_o motion_n of_o thy_o affection_n do_v appoint_v and_o when_o a_o reason_n of_o thy_o say_n be_v exact_v of_o thou_o thou_o stand_v naked_a unarm_v and_o of_o the_o lutheran_n thus_o write_v erasmus_n they_o say_v it_o and_o for_o that_o 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