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A69145 The progenie of Catholicks and Protestants Whereby on the one side is proued the lineal descent of Catholicks, for the Roman faith and religion, from the holie fathers of the primitiue Church ... and on the other, the neuer-being of Protestants or their nouel sect during al the foresayd time, otherwise then in confessed and condemned hereticks. ... Anderton, Lawrence. 1633 (1633) STC 579; ESTC S100158 364,704 286

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father_n be_v no_o protestant_n but_o mere_o papist_n wherein_o we_o may_v glory_v as_o reverence_v their_o sanctity_n admire_v their_o learning_n and_o honour_v their_o antiquity_n neither_o be_v it_o true_a as_o protestant_n use_v to_o suggest_v that_o catholic_n distrust_v their_o cause_n if_o it_o be_v commit_v to_o trial_n by_o scripture_n do_v therefore_o fly_v from_o it_o to_o father_n and_o doctor_n for_o as_o for_o all_o such_o point_n as_o be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n to_o scripture_n we_o appeal_v it_o be_v that_o we_o urge_v her_o literal_a sense_n and_o word_n have_v make_v we_o papist_n we_o therefore_o only_o recurre_v to_o father_n either_o for_o the_o better_a finding-out_a and_o understand_v the_o true_a meaning_n of_o sundry_a difficult_a passage_n and_o text_n of_o scripture_n or_o for_o the_o true_a discern_v of_o several_a ecclesiastical_a tradition_n and_o doctrine_n teach_v and_o practise_v by_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o no_o where_n mention_v in_o the_o written_a word_n and_o as_o this_o be_v not_o most_o impious_o to_o oppose_v father_n to_o scripture_n or_o to_o fly_v from_o scripture_n to_o father_n so_o be_v it_o in_o these_o respect_v the_o most_o assure_a mean_n to_o give_v we_o satisfaction_n for_o as_o none_o ever_o leave_v more_o livelie_a monument_n of_o rare_a wit_n &_o profund_a knowledge_n or_o more_o shine_a testimony_n of_o great_a purity_n and_o sanctity_n in_o life_n or_o more_o astonish_a wonder_n and_o miracle_n in_o confirmation_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n than_o these_o ancient_a father_n so_o be_v there_o none_o ever_o furnish_v with_o so_o good_a mean_v either_o of_o know_v the_o apostle_n or_o the_o apostle_n preach_v as_o the_o apostle_n first_o heir_n and_o next_o successor_n the_o sweet_a fruit_n of_o their_o labour_n our_o holy_a father_n but_o to_o prosecute_v yet_o further_o this_o so_o lunatic_a proceed_n of_o protestant_n against_o these_o grave_a sage_n of_o christ_n catholic_n church_n what_o more_o indignus_fw-fr or_o injurious_a can_v be_v utter_v then_o that_o these_o so_o great_a doctor_n all_o of_o they_o unite_a member_n of_o one_o catholic_n church_n shall_v be_v at_o deadly_a war_n and_o dissension_n among_o themselves_o in_o important_a article_n of_o faith_n &_o religion_n yea_o that_o one_o and_o the_o same_o doctor_n shall_v contradict_v himself_o &_o that_o in_o matter_n fundamental_a &_o of_o great_a consequence_n and_o yet_o caluin_n blush_v not_o to_o say_v 7._o say_v in_o inst_z in_o praef._n ad_fw-la reg._n galliae_fw-la p._n 7._o those_o holy_a man_n be_v ignorant_a of_o many_o thing_n they_o often_o fight_v among_o themselves_o and_o sometime_o with_o themselves_o beza_n likewise_o speak_v of_o the_o ancient_a father_n in_o theodosius_n his_o time_n say_v 7._o say_v in_o inst_z in_o praef._n ad_fw-la reg._n galliae_fw-la p._n 7._o i_o confess_v as_o then_o there_o be_v most_o learned_a bishop_n 4._o bishop_n in_o now_o test_n praef._n ad_fw-la princip_n condens_fw-la p._n 4._o but_o this_o also_o i_o affirm_v etc._n etc._n that_o scarce_o any_o of_o they_o can_v be_v name_v who_o dissent_v not_o both_o from_o himself_o and_o other_o in_o many_o thing_n and_o those_o of_o great_a moment_n a_o thing_n incredible_a in_o such_o learned_a bishop_n if_o caluin_n and_o beza_n be_v not_o the_o broacher_n who_o seldom_o tell_v truth_n 419._o truth_n ep._n ad_fw-la rom._n c._n 14._o p._n 419._o melancthon_n also_o thus_o write_v of_o the_o father_n see_v they_o sometime_o speak_v contrary_a thing_n they_o must_v pardon_v we_o if_o we_o reprehend_v certain_a thing_n in_o they_o and_o 463._o and_o devotis_fw-la p._n 463._o though_o the_o father_n be_v wise_a and_o learned_a and_o see_v many_o thing_n say_v peter_n martyr_n yet_o they_o be_v man_n and_o can_v err_v and_o that_o chief_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o the_o father_n do_v not_o always_o agree_v among_o themselves_o and_o sometime_o one_o dissent_v from_o himself_o those_o father_n say_v 224._o say_v retractive_a from_o romish_a religion_n p._n 223._o 224._o d._n beard_n that_o live_v in_o the_o next_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o the_o first_o speak_v of_o this_o matter_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n very_o various_o and_o doubtful_o as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o doctrine_n which_o they_o know_v not_o what_o to_o say_v to_o and_o be_v not_o full_o resolve_v in_o three_o of_o those_o father_n which_o he_o allege_v though_o in_o some_o place_n they_o seem_v to_o allow_v that_o custom_n which_o be_v then_o bring_v into_o the_o church_n yet_o in_o other_o place_n they_o disallow_v the_o same_o yea_o and_o they_o be_v disapprove_v also_o of_o other_o that_o live_v in_o the_o same_o age._n thus_o true_a athanasius_n condemn_v invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n etc._n &_o false_a athanasius_n allow_v it_o etc._n etc._n basil_n approve_v it_o but_o nazianzene_n doubt_v of_o it_o and_o epiphanius_n etc._n etc._n utter_o condemn_v it_o chrysostome_n in_o some_o place_n seem_v to_o allow_v of_o it_o in_o other_o he_o speak_v against_o it_o and_o so_o do_v augustine_n and_o the_o rest_n the_o like_a contradition_n d._n whitaker_n instance_v in_o s._n basil_n say_v 670._o say_v de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la scrip._n p._n 670._o basil_n fight_v with_o himself_o and_o 675._o and_o de_fw-fr princip_n christ_n dog_n l._n 2._o c._n 10._o p._n 675._o i_o oppose_v say_v lubbertus_n basil_n against_o basil_n and_o 678._o and_o ib._n p._n 678._o damascene_fw-la be_v contrary_a to_o himself_o yea_o 676._o yea_o ib._n p._n 676._o i_o oppose_v chrysostome_n against_o chrysostome_n of_o who_o also_o say_v whitaker_n 678._o whitaker_n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la scrip._n p._n 678._o he_o be_v at_o variance_n with_o himself_o and_o 676._o and_o ibid._n p._n 676._o let_v we_o not_o attend_v what_o cyprian_n say_v but_o let_v we_o examine_v he_o by_o his_o own_o law_n yea_o of_o s._n augustin_n whitaker_n blush_v not_o to_o say_v 690._o say_v ibid._n p._n 690._o although_o in_o this_o he_o may_v be_v think_v to_o favour_v tradition_n yet_o in_o other_o place_n he_o defend_v earnest_o the_o perfection_n of_o the_o scripture_n of_o who_o also_o say_v d._n beard_n 413._o beard_n retractive_a from_o romish_n religione_fw-la 413._o augustin_n who_o they_o challenge_v for_o the_o great_a patron_n of_o this_o fire_n yet_o define_v nothing_o determinate_o of_o it_o but_o speak_v doubt_o and_o problematical_o and_o if_o he_o affirm_v it_o in_o some_o one_o place_n he_o leave_v it_o in_o suspense_n in_o other_o and_o utter_o deny_v it_o in_o a_o three_o d._n morton_n acknowledge_v that_o protestant_n 202._o protestant_n prot._n appeal_n l._n 2._o p._n 201._o 202._o have_v particular_o and_o by_o name_n observe_v that_o justinus_n ireneus_fw-la clemens_n tertullian_n origen_n cyprian_n and_o other_o albeit_o many_o time_n they_o plead_v for_o the_o free_a will_n of_o the_o corrupt_a nature_n of_o man_n yet_o be_v they_o sometime_o reduce_v unto_o the_o more_o orthodoxal_a hold_n write_v thereof_o more_o commodious_o belike_o as_o deny_v freewill_a but_o this_o be_v only_o a_o protestant_n or_o lie_a observation_n i_o must_v infer_v that_o as_o this_o so_o base_a proceed_n against_o the_o father_n do_v evident_o demonstrate_v and_o discover_v the_o unablenes_n of_o protestant_n in_o allege_v the_o father_n further_a against_o we_o than_o they_o be_v pretend_v to_o be_v against_o themselves_o which_o all_o of_o judgement_n will_v confess_v to_o be_v nothing_o so_o do_v it_o alfo_o no_o less_o clear_o convince_v that_o protestant_n in_o their_o own_o conscience_n do_v find_v and_o know_v the_o father_n direct_o to_o condemn_v their_o opinion_n and_o to_o patronize_v papistry_n for_o otherwise_o they_o will_v never_o endeavour_v so_o foul_o to_o blemish_v they_o by_o urge_v contradiction_n with_o themselves_o which_o the_o mean_a writer_n though_o in_o trivial_a matter_n do_v ever_o scorn_n as_o too_o clear_a a_o argument_n of_o gross_a oblivion_n or_o worse_a inconstancy_n now_o from_o this_o conceit_n of_o the_o father_n ignorance_n and_o contradiction_n to_o themselves_o protestant_n doubt_v not_o to_o prefer_v their_o own_o modern_a writer_n for_o judgement_n knowledge_n and_o learning_n before_o the_o great_a &_o ancient_a doctor_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n so_o luther_n in_o his_o protestant_a humility_n thus_o speak_v of_o himself_o consolation_n himself_o lib._n ad_fw-la ducem_fw-la georgium_n and_o see_v colloq_fw-la lat_fw-la c._n the_o consolation_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n no_o doctor_n or_o writer_n have_v so_o excellent_o and_o clear_o confirm_v instruct_v and_o comfort_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o secular_a state_n as_o i_o have_v do_v by_o the_o singular_a grace_n of_o god_n this_o certain_o i_o know_v that_o neither_o austin_n not_o ambrose_n who_o be_v yet_o in_o this_o matter_n the_o best_a be_v equal_a to_o i_o herein_o 271._o herein_o tom._n 7._o serm._n de_fw-fr euersione_n jerusalem_n f._n 271._o the_o gospel_n
193._o now_o because_o priest_n without_o knowledge_n and_o confession_n of_o sin_n can_v not_o discern_v or_o judge_v when_o or_o what_o sin_n be_v to_o be_v remit_v or_o retain_v it_o be_v further_a likewise_o confess_v that_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n confession_n auricular_a and_o particular_a of_o sin_n to_o the_o priest_n be_v teach_v and_o practise_v and_o though_o 490._o though_o contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 7._o p._n 490._o d._n whitaker_n do_v affirm_v that_o innocentius_n the_o three_o be_v the_o first_o that_o institute_v auricular_a confession_n for_o necessary_a yet_o s._n leo_n who_o live_v almost_o eight_o hundred_o year_n before_o this_o innocentius_n be_v charge_v with_o like_a innovation_n by_o m._n simonides_n 57_o simonides_n upon_o the_o revel_v p._n 57_o say_v leo_n the_o first_o first_o brought-in_a auricular_a confession_n and_o then_o present_o after_o he_o cit_v s._n leo_n his_o own_o word_n for_o auricular_a confession_n and_o whereas_o long_v before_o innocentius_n the_o jacobite_n be_v condemn_v for_o affirm_v that_o we_o be_v to_o confess_v our_o sin_n to_o god_n only_o and_o that_o confession_n of_o sin_n to_o a_o priest_n be_v not_o needful_a this_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o protestant_a 126._o protestant_a p._n 126._o author_n of_o catholic_n tradition_n but_o to_o clear_v also_o s._n leo_n of_o all_o novellisme_n in_o this_o hehalf_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o the_o centurist_n 426._o centurist_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 425._o and_o see_v col_fw-fr 426._o that_o even_o in_o the_o time_n of_o constantin_n who_o live_v above_o one_o hundred_o year_n before_o s._n leo_n that_o the_o christian_n as_o then_o to_o this_o end_n have_v a_o priest_n etc._n etc._n appoint_v to_o who_o those_o come_n who_o have_v sin_v shall_v confess_v the_o sin_n they_o have_v commit_v etc._n etc._n and_o the_o priest_n upon_o that_o condition_n absolve_v those_o who_o confess_v that_o they_o shall_v desire_v from_o he_o penance_n for_o their_o sin_n yea_o they_o arise_v high_a and_o plain_o confess_v ●27_n confess_v cent._n 3._o c._n 6._o col_fw-fr ●27_n that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o cyprian_a &_o tertulian_n private_a confession_n of_o thought_n and_o lesser_a sin_n be_v use_v and_o think_v necessary_a and_o their_o word_n be_v these_o absolution_n from_o sin_n be_v so_o give_v that_o those_o who_o do_v pennance_n first_o confess_v their_o sin_n for_o so_o do_v tertulian_n great_o urge_v confession_n in_o his_o book_n of_o penance_n and_o that_o private_a confession_n be_v usual_a wherein_o they_o confess_v their_o crime_n as_o also_o their_o wicked_a thought_n it_o appear_v by_o some_o place_n of_o cyprian_a as_o in_o the_o five_o sermon_n de_fw-fr lapsis_fw-la &_o three_o book_n of_o epistle_n ep_v 14._o &_o 16._o where_o he_o plain_o say_v even_o for_o lesser_a sin_n which_o be_v not_o commit_v direct_o against_o god_n it_o be_v needful_a to_o go_v to_o confession_n and_o this_o he_o command_v to_o be_v do_v often_o l._n 1._o ep_v 3._o etc._n etc._n thus_o far_o the_o centurist_n confession_n be_v make_v by_o the_o penitent_a to_o the_o priest_n the_o centurist_n 386._o centurist_n cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 127_o &_o 81._o 38._o 49._o 82._o and_o see_v caluin_n instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 12._o §._o 8._o and_o conc._n laodicenum_n can._n 2._o apud_fw-la osiand_n cent_n 4_o p_o 386._o further_o confess_v that_o pennance_n or_o satisfaction_n be_v enjoin_v according_a to_o the_o offence_n and_o that_o the_o priest_n 868._o priest_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 425._o 426._o and_o see_v col_fw-fr 491._o 834._o 868._o do_v absolve_v those_o who_o confess_v their_o sin_n upon_o that_o condition_n that_o they_o will_v demand_v punishment_n for_o the_o same_o and_o d._n whitaker_n 78._o whitaker_n cont._n camp_n rat_n 5._o p._n 78._o acknowledge_v that_o cyprian_a &_o tertulian_n thought_n by_o such_o their_o external_a discipline_n of_o life_n to_o pay_v the_o pain_n due_a for_o sin_n and_o to_o satisfy_v god_n justice_n and_o that_o not_o cyprian_n only_o but_o almost_o all_o the_o most_o holy_a father_n of_o that_o time_n be_v in_o that_o error_n so_o likewise_o melancthon_n 16._o melancthon_n in_o his_o libelli_fw-la aliquot_fw-la fol._n 10._o 11._o 16._o dislike_v that_o cyprian_a urge_v canonical_a penance_n etc._n etc._n and_o confirm_v the_o opinion_n as_o though_o they_o be_v necessary_a &_o that_o for_o they_o sin_n be_v forgive_v etc._n etc._n in_o like_a sort_n the_o whole_a nycene_n council_n overcome_v with_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o multitude_n and_o time_n approve_v the_o canon_n of_o penance_n and_o for_o the_o same_o doctrine_n he_o reprove_v the_o 28._o the_o ibid._n fol._n 19_o &_o 28._o carthage_n council_n &_o s._n chrysostome_n chemnitius_n 68_o chemnitius_n exam._n part_n 4._o p._n 68_o charge_v the_o father_n in_o general_a say_v i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o the_o old_a father_n do_v sometime_o over_o large_o and_o with_o word_n over_o lofty_a command_n that_o canonical_a discipline_n as_o that_o tertulian_n say_v by_o these_o satisfaction_n sin_n be_v purge_v cyprian_n say_v by_o they_o sin_n be_v redeem_v wash_v cure_v ambrose_n by_o they_o the_o pain_n of_o hell_n be_v recompense_v augustin_n god_n by_o they_o be_v pacify_v for_o sin_n past_a and_o such_o like_a saying_n there_o be_v which_o with_o true_a faith_n neither_o can_v nor_o aught_o to_o be_v take_v as_o they_o sound_v and_o hamelmanus_fw-la avouch_v that_o cyprian_a seem_v foul_o to_o have_v err_v concern_v satisfaction_n yea_o say_v caluin_n 38._o caluin_n pref._n inst_z ad_fw-la reg._n galliae_fw-la and_o see_v inst_z l._n 3._o c._n 4._o §._o 38._o those_o thing_n which_o every_o foot_n occur_v in_o the_o work_n of_o the_o old_a writer_n or_o father_n touch_v satisfaction_n move_v i_o but_o little_a 97._o little_a de_fw-fr tradit_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 7._o col_fw-fr 97._o for_o i_o see_v that_o diverse_a of_o they_o i_o will_v say_v simple_o as_o it_o be_v almost_o all_o who_o work_n be_v extant_a either_o have_v err_v in_o this_o matter_n or_o have_v speak_v over_o crabed_o &_o hardly_o and_o again_o 8._o again_o inst_z l._n 3_o 4_o c._n 12._o §._o 8._o the_o immoderate_a austerity_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n can_v not_o way_n be_v excuse_v it_o differ_v whole_o from_o the_o commandment_n of_o our_o lord_n &_o be_v very_o dangerous_a here_o their_o wisdom_n be_v to_o be_v require_v as_o also_o 16._o also_o inst_z l._n 3_o c_o 3_o §._o 16._o the_o ancient_a writer_n exceed_v measure_n with_o immoderate_a praise_n they_o commend_v that_o corporal_a discipline_n they_o be_v more_o severe_a in_o exact_v chastisement_n then_o ecclesiastical_a lenity_n do_v permit_v and_o the_o centurist_n speak_v of_o the_o three_o age_n affirm_v that_o 81._o that_o cent._n 3._o p._n 81._o most_o of_o the_o doctor_n of_o this_o age_n do_v wonderful_o deprave_v the_o doctrine_n of_o penance_n yea_o they_o spare_v not_o to_o say_v of_o the_o age_n next_o to_o the_o apostle_n that_o 62._o 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learning_n and_o judgement_n etc._n etc._n so_o willing_a indeed_o be_v m._n doctor_n to_o detract_v from_o the_o authority_n and_o testimony_n of_o his_o own_o dear_a brethren_n m._n napper_n and_o m._n brocard_n and_o where_o he_o will_v glad_o mince_v the_o matter_n by_o affirm_v that_o they_o be_v but_o two_o the_o perusal_n of_o this_o chapter_n and_o other_o parcel_n of_o this_o book_n will_v clear_o discover_v that_o there_o be_v many_o more_o twoe_n of_o this_o opinion_n wherefore_o to_o proceed_v m._n brightman_n 503._o brightman_n apoc._n p._n 503._o thus_o urge_v bellarmine_n as_o concern_v the_o continuance_n of_o the_o apostasy_n from_o the_o true_a faith_n we_o have_v learn_v by_o the_o apocalypse_n that_o the_o same_o have_v prevayl_v more_o than_o 1260._o year_n and_o that_o more_o clear_o than_o any_o of_o your_o subtlety_n can_v evade_v 539._o evade_v ibid._n p._n 539._o and_o again_o antichrist_n have_v reign_v from_o the_o time_n of_o constantin_n the_o great_a to_o this_o day_n whereof_o the_o apocalypse_n afford_v such_o demonstration_n as_o never_o any_o jesuit_n can_v confute_v yea_o 477._o yea_o ibid._n p._n 477._o further_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o beast_n which_o 1300._o year_n receive_v power_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o from_o 1300._o year_n he_o be_v the_o antichrist_n so_o certain_a it_o be_v by_o m._n brightman_n strong_a demonstration_n ground_v upon_o scripture_n that_o the_o present_a roman_a religion_n have_v continue_v for_o these_o last_o 1300._o year_n during_o which_o time_n the_o pope_n in_o his_o opinion_n have_v reign_v as_o antichrist_n answerable_o hereunto_o 25._o hereunto_o against_o staplet_n &_o martial_a p._n 25._o d._n fulk_n relate_v that_o some_o protestant_n have_v write_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v blind_v the_o world_n these_o many_o hundred_o year_n some_o say_v 1000_o some_o 1200._o some_o 900._o etc._n etc._n and_o 263._o and_o in_o apoc._n p._n 263._o winckelmanus_n speak_v of_o the_o begin_n and_o 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censure_v for_o antichrist_n so_o be_v the_o most_o ancient_a and_o first_o christian_a emperor_n condemn_v for_o papist_n and_o favourer_n of_o antichrist_n for_o though_o d._n morton_n speak_v of_o the_o pope_n authority_n affirm_v that_o it_o have_v be_v 661._o be_v prot._n appeal_n p._n 661._o often_o and_o notorious_o contradict_v in_o antiquity_n etc._n etc._n by_o right_a christian_a and_o renown_a emperor_n yet_o m._n brightman_n speak_v of_o the_o very_a first_o most_o ancient_a and_o christian_a emperor_n aver_v the_o contrary_a say_v 344._o say_v apoc._n p._n 344._o into_o which_o catalogue_n come_v constantin_n the_o great_a constantius_n constans_n constantin_n and_o their_o son_n julian_n jovinian_a valentinian_n gratian_n valentinian_n the_o second_o theodosius_n etc._n etc._n for_o these_o then_o reign_v the_o beast_n be_v notable_o defend_v and_o his_o dignity_n much_o increase_v agreable_o say_v 2._o say_v rejoind_v to_o bristol_n p._n 2._o d._n fulk_n i_o never_o 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442._o d._n raynolds_n be_v provoke_v in_o the_o like_a kind_n acknowledge_v in_o like_a manner_n that_o the_o succession_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n be_v a_o proof_n of_o the_o true_a faith_n in_o the_o time_n of_o augustin_n epiphanius_n optatus_n tertullian_n and_o irenaeus_n etc._n etc._n 3._o etc._n instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 2._o sec_fw-la 2._o 3._o and_o caluin_n himself_o set_v down_o our_o foresay_a allegation_n affirm_v of_o catholic_n that_o they_o indeed_o set_v forth_o their_o church_n very_o glorious_o etc._n etc._n they_o report_v out_o of_o irenaeus_n tertullian_n origen_n augustin_n and_o other_o how_o high_o they_o esteem_v this_o succession_n whereto_o he_o give_v the_o like_a answer_n and_o reason_n say_v consider_v it_o be_v a_o matter_n out_o of_o all_o doubt_n that_o from_o the_o begin_n even_o until_o that_o time_n nothing_o be_v change_v in_o doctrine_n the_o foresaid_a doctor_n take_v in_o argument_n that_o which_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o overthrow_v of_o all_o new_a error_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o heretic_n oppugn_v the_o doctrine_n which_o even_o from_o the_o very_a apostle_n themselves_o have_v be_v inviolable_a and_o with_o one_o consent_n retain_v and_o in_o his_o book_n of_o institution_n set_v forth_o in_o french_a he_o write_v express_o that_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n notorious_a and_o without_o doubt_n that_o after_o the_o apostle_n age_n until_o those_o foresay_a time_n no_o change_n be_v make_v in_o doctrine_n neither_o at_o rome_n nor_o other_o city_n in_o like_a sort_n say_v zanchius_n 148._o zanchius_n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la relig._n p._n 148._o in_o time_n past_a the_o roman_a church_n and_o the_o succession_n of_o their_o bishop_n until_o the_o time_n of_o irenaeus_n tertullian_n cyprian_n &_o some_o other_o be_v such_o as_o that_o not_o undeserued_o these_o father_n be_v accustom_v to_o provoke_v and_o cite_v the_o heretic_n of_o their_o time_n to_o she_o and_o other_o such_o like_a 278._o like_a de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la p._n 278._o d._n whitaker_n speak_v of_o certain_a apostolical_a church_n and_o among_o they_o of_o rome_n by_o name_n collect_v thus_o from_o whence_o we_o understand_v why_o tertullian_n provoke_v to_o these_o church_n to_o wit_n because_o as_o then_o by_o perpetual_a succession_n they_o keep_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n agreable_o to_o which_o almost_o in_o the_o same_o word_n say_v 374_o say_v against_o purgat_fw-la p._n 374_o d._n fulk_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n retain_v by_o succession_n until_o tertullia_n day_n that_o faith_n which_o it_o do_v first_o receive_v of_o the_o apostle_n 1359._o apostle_n fox_n his_o act._n &_o mon._n p._n 1359._o m._n ridley_n avouch_v that_o the_o patriarch_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o long_o after_o be_v a_o great_a maintainer_n and_o setter_n forth_o of_o christ_n glory_n in_o the_o which_o above_o all_o other_o country_n and_o region_n be_v preach_v the_o true_a gospel_n the_o sacrament_n be_v most_o due_o administer_v etc._n etc._n after_o the_o emperor_n become_v christian_n
mean_n to_o prevent_v schism_n &_o dissension_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n when_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n be_v far_o more_o abundant_a and_o eminent_a then_o now_o they_o be_v nay_o if_o the_o twelve_o be_v not_o like_a to_o agree_v except_o there_o have_v be_v one_o chief_a among_o they_o for_o say_v hierom_n among_o the_o twelve_o one_o be_v therefore_o choose_v that_o a_o chief_a be_v appoint_v occasion_n of_o dissension_n may_v be_v prevent_v how_o can_v they_o think_v that_o equality_n will_v keep_v all_o the_o pastor_n in_o the_o world_n in_o peace_n and_o unity_n etc._n etc._n for_o in_o all_o society_n authority_n which_o can_v not_o be_v where_o all_o be_v equal_a must_v procure_v unity_n and_o obedience_n in_o like_a sort_n the_o 556._o the_o cen._n 4._o col._n 556._o centurist_n confess_v that_o optatus_n l._n 2._o cont_n donat._n write_v it_o can_v not_o be_v deny_v but_o that_o thou_o know_v in_o the_o city_n of_o rome_n the_o episcopal_a chair_n to_o have_v be_v first_o bestow_v upon_o peter_n in_o which_o peter_n the_o head_n of_o all_o the_o apostle_n sit_v whereupon_o he_o be_v call_v cephas_n in_o which_o one_o chair_n unity_n shall_v be_v keep_v by_o all_o lest_o the_o other_o apostle_n shall_v every_o one_o defend_v his_o own_o so_o that_o he_o shall_v be_v esteem_v a_o schismatic_a and_o sinner_n who_o shall_v erect_v another_o against_o that_o singular_a sea_n therefore_o there_o be_v one_o chair_n etc._n etc._n 1100._o etc._n cent._n 4._o col._n 1100._o they_o also_o reprehend_v he_o for_o that_o he_o extoll_v overmuch_o the_o chair_n of_o peter_n and_o the_o succession_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n and_o 248._o and_o in_o his_o retentive_a etc._n etc._n p._n 248._o d._n fulk_n charge_v optatus_n with_o absurdity_n for_o say_v of_o peter_n he_o deserve_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o all_o the_o apostle_n and_o he_o alone_o receive_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n to_o be_v communicate_v to_o the_o rest_n 248._o rest_n 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de_fw-la divinis_fw-la nominibus_fw-la c._n 3._o term_v peter_n the_o chief_a and_o most_o ancient_a top_n or_o head_n of_o the_o apostle_n 343._o apostle_n apocalypsis_n in_o cap._n 13._o p._n 343._o this_o point_n be_v so_o evident_a in_o the_o father_n that_o m._n brightman_n think_v it_o have_v its_o original_n from_o a_o corrupt_a doctrine_n to_o wit_n the_o false_a boast_a authority_n of_o the_o chair_n of_o peter_n whereof_o almost_o at_o every_o word_n the_o roman_a bishop_n brag_v and_o which_o the_o ancient_a saint_n tertullian_n cyprian_n and_o other_o extol_v with_o immoderate_a praise_n not_o know_v with_o what_o impiety_n they_o prepare_v the_o way_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o father_n further_o proceed_v teach_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v build_v or_o found_v upon_o s._n peter_n to_o which_o purpose_n the_o rhemist_n cite_v s._n gregory_n d._n fulk_n answer_v the_o 16.19_o the_o ag._n rhem._n test_n in_o math._n 16.19_o authority_n of_o gregory_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o bishop_n of_o rome_n himself_o and_o so_o near_o the_o time_n of_o the_o open_a revelation_n of_o antichrist_n in_o the_o romish_a sea_n be_v partial_a in_o this_o case_n and_o therefore_o not_o to_o be_v hear_v and_o again_o leo_n 18._o leo_n ibid._n vers_fw-la 18._o bishop_n of_o rome_n strive_v for_o the_o dignity_n of_o his_o sea_n as_o his_o predecessor_n zosimus_n boniface_n and_o celestin_n have_v do_v before_o etc._n etc._n be_v no_o equal_a judge_n in_o this_o case_n the_o 555._o the_o cent._n 8._o col_fw-fr 555._o centurist_n charge_n s._n hilary_n that_o he_o speak_v incommodious_o of_o peter_n the_o apostle_n that_o he_o lie_v under_o the_o build_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v make_v the_o foundation_n thereof_o they_o 1250._o they_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 557._o &_o see_v col_fw-fr 1250._o likewise_o affirm_v that_o s._n hierom_n say_v incommodious_o of_o peter_n that_o our_o lord_n build_v his_o church_n upon_o he_o and_o for_o the_o like_o say_v they_o 1250._o they_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 558._o and_o see_v col_fw-fr 1250._o reprove_v nazianzene_n yea_o they_o 84._o they_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 84._o charge_v tertullian_n that_o not_o without_o error_n he_o seem_v to_o think_v that_o the_o key_n be_v commit_v only_o to_o peter_n and_o that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v upon_o he_o and_o they_o 84._o they_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 84._o confess_v that_o cyprian_a in_o many_o place_n affirm_v the_o church_n to_o be_v found_v upon_o peter_n as_o l._n 1._o ep_v 3._o l._n 4._o ep_n 9_o etc._n etc._n and_o they_o 85._o they_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 85._o charge_v origen_n tract_n 5._o in_o math._n to_o say_v peter_z by_z promise_v deserve_v to_o be_v make_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n 277._o church_n resp_n ad_fw-la bellar._n disp_n part_n 1._o p._n 277._o danaeus_n reprove_v the_o father_n in_o general_a for_o that_o they_o say_v he_o naughty_o expound_v of_o the_o person_n of_o peter_n that_o say_v of_o christ_n math._n 16._o thou_o be_v peter_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n 6._o church_n instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 6._o sec_fw-la 6._o caluin_n say_v the_o church_n to_o be_v build_v upon_o peter_n because_o it_o be_v say_v upon_o this_o rock_n etc._n etc._n some_o of_o the_o father_n have_v so_o expound_v but_o the_o whole_a scripture_n gainsay_v yea_o the_o father_n keep_v a_o yearly_a festival_n day_n in_o honour_n of_o s._n peter_n sea_n or_o chair_n which_o point_n bellarmine_n confirm_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o sundry_a father_n danaeus_n 276._o danaeus_n in_o resp_n ad_fw-la bellar._n disp_n part_n 1._o p._n 275._o 276._o only_o answer_v that_o the_o father_n assertion_n thereof_o be_v the_o judgement_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n then_o corrupt_v and_o bewitch_v or_o make_v blind_a with_o this_o error_n and_o whereas_o anacletus_fw-la ep_n 3._o leo_fw-la ep_n 53._o and_o gregory_n l._n 6._o ep_n 37._o do_v all_o of_o they_o teach_v a_o special_a pre-eminence_n to_o be_v give_v even_o to_o the_o sea_n of_o alexandria_n and_o antioch_n before_o other_o apostolical_a or_o patriarchal_a sea_n in_o respect_n of_o s._n peter_n who_o first_o found_v they_o danaeus_n 275._o danaeus_n in_o resp_n ad_fw-la bell._n part_n 1._o p_o 275._o in_o his_o answer_n to_o bellarmin_n object_v they_o in_o steed_n of_o a_o better_a evasion_n bare_o write_v what_o he_o bring_v out_o of_o anacletus_fw-la leo_fw-la and_o gregory_n be_v in_o vain_a see_v they_o plead_v for_o themselves_o in_o their_o own_o cause_n but_o d._n field_n 162._o field_n of_o the_o church_n l._n 5._o c._n 31._o p._n 162._o ingenuous_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o begin_n only_o three_o patriarck_n to_o wit_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n alexandria_n and_o antioch_n the_o reason_n as_o some_o think_v why_o the_o bishop_n of_o these_o sea_n be_v prefer_v before_o other_o and_o make_v patriarck_n be_v in_o respect_n have_v to_o bless_a s._n peter_n who_o be_v in_o sort_n before_o express_v in_o order_n and_o honour_v the_o first_o and_o chief_a of_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n all_o church_n be_v right_o call_v apostolic_a but_o these_o more_o special_o in_o which_o the_o apostle_n peter_n sit_v and_o in_o proof_n of_o this_o he_o allege_v anacletus_fw-la leo_fw-la and_o gregory_n before_o mention_v d._n fulk_n 4._o fulk_n in_o his_o confut._n of_o papist_n quarrel_n etc._n etc._n p._n 4._o affirm_v in_o general_a that_o many_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v deceive_v to_o think_v something_o more_o of_o peter_n prerogative_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n dignity_n then_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v give_v to_o either_o of_o they_o hence_o than_o we_o see_v that_o catholic_n defend_v s._n peter_n to_o have_v be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n the_o head_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o also_o the_o church_n
be_v acknowledge_v of_o dionysius_n by_o melancthon_n 23._o melancthon_n in_o aliquot_fw-la libel_n etc._n etc._n fol._n 23._o &_o d._n fulk_n 353._o fulk_n against_o purgatory_n p._n 353._o which_o d._n fulk_n in_o plain_a word_n teach_v that_o tertulian_n 393._o tertulian_n against_o purgat_fw-la p._n 3●2_n &_o see_v p_o 303._o 393._o cyprian_n austin_n hierom_n and_o a_o great_a many_o more_o do_v witness_n that_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n whereunto_o bucer_n accord_v 311._o accord_v in_o enarrat_fw-la in_o sacra_fw-la quatuor_fw-la euangel_n in_o math._n c._n 12._o p_o 311._o affirm_v that_o prayer_n and_o alm_n be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a almost_o from_o the_o very_a beginning_n of_o the_o church_n last_o zuinglius_fw-la being_n impugn_a for_o deny_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o press_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o father_n especial_o of_o s._n chrysostom_n &_o s._n augustin_n who_o derive_v this_o custom_n from_o the_o apostle_n answer_v thus_o 10._o thus_o tom._n 1._o epicheroe_n de_fw-fr can._n miss_n f._n 186._o and_o see_v tom._n 2._o in_o elench_v contra_fw-la anabap_n f._n 10._o if_o it_o be_v so_o as_o augustin_n and_o chrysostom_n report_n i_o think_v that_o the_o apostle_n suffer_v certain_a to_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a for_o no_o other_o cause_n then_o to_o condescend_v to_o their_o infirmity_n so_o insimulate_v the_o apostle_n wilful_o to_o have_v permit_v other_o to_o err_v according_a to_o the_o error_n of_o protestant_n in_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a which_o they_o can_v not_o do_v without_o error_n in_o themselves_o yea_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o they_o dead_a be_v believe_v and_o practise_v by_o the_o ancient_a true_a believe_a jew_n for_o whereas_o m._n morton_n speak_v of_o the_o church_n before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n affirm_v the_o doctrine_n then_o teach_v by_o the_o jew_n to_o be_v now_o know_v among_o other_o reason_n 94._o reason_n treat_n of_o israel_n &_o the_o church_n p._n 93._o 94._o by_o the_o open_a confession_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o all_o age_n since_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n for_o say_v he_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o hold_v even_o to_o this_o day_n those_o opinion_n which_o they_o receive_v from_o their_o ancestor_n and_o be_v common_o hold_v of_o that_o nation_n yea_o say_v the_o centurist_n 885._o centurist_n cent._n 8._o col_fw-fr 885._o the_o jew_n be_v constant_a in_o their_o opinion_n and_o pet._n martyr_n write_v that_o 599._o that_o com._n plac_n in_o engl._n part_n 2._o p._n 599._o the_o jew_n as_o yet_o continue_v and_o keep_v in_o so_o great_a adversity_n in_o so_o diverse_a and_o grievous_a captivity_n and_o dispersion_n they_o hold_v still_o their_o religion_n doubtless_o no_o ancient_a trojan_n lumbards_n hun_n or_o vandal_n have_v so_o hold_v their_o own_o etc._n etc._n and_o can_v show_v their_o original_n &_o history_n set_v forth_o in_o most_o true_a writing_n and_o be_v every_o where_o disperse_v as_o they_o be_v can_v nevertheless_o keep_v their_o own_o ordinance_n etc._n etc._n now_o concern_v these_o jew_n so_o constant_a in_o their_o faith_n and_o admit_v the_o book_n of_o maccabee_n but_o only_a for_o a_o true_a history_n it_o be_v evident_a thereby_o that_o judas_n machabeus_n a_o holy_a and_o just_a man_n procure_v 2.43.45_o procure_v 2._o machab_n 2.43.45_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o that_o the_o priest_n of_o jerusalem_n then_o true_a believer_n offer_v the_o same_o wherein_o also_o our_o late_a jew_n be_v so_o conformable_a that_o d._n whitaker_n confess_v the_o same_o in_o these_o word_n 85._o word_n cont._n dur._n l._n 1._o p._n 85._o i_o know_v that_o the_o jew_n have_v libros_fw-la memoriale_n book_n of_o commemoration_n which_o they_o read_v in_o their_o synagogue_n and_o i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o now_o they_o be_v accustom_v to_o use_v certain_a prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a insomuch_o that_o buxdorsius_n also_o report_v their_o know_a and_o confess_v doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n 275._o purgatory_n synagoga_fw-la judaica_n p._n 24._o 505._o 506._o 508._o 275._o d._n beard_n avouch_v that_o 77._o that_o retractive_a from_o the_o romish_a religion_n p._n 77._o the_o romanist_n be_v like_a unto_o the_o jew_n in_o their_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a for_o they_o hold_v and_o teach_v that_o prayer_n &_o sacrifice_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v for_o the_o dead_a ground_v their_o opinion_n partly_o upon_o the_o example_n of_o judas_n machabeus_n who_o as_o they_o affirm_v procure_v sacrifice_n to_o be_v offer_v by_o the_o priest_n for_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n and_o partly_o upon_o the_o thalmudical_a tradition_n of_o diverse_a of_o their_o ancient_a rabbin_n from_o the_o premise_n than_o we_o may_v remember_v that_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v confess_o believe_v a_o place_n of_o purgatory_n after_o this_o life_n second_o wherein_o sin_n be_v punish_v and_o remit_v three_o for_o which_o remission_n they_o use_v to_o pray_v give_v alm_n and_o offer_v the_o most_o precious_a sacrifice_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n now_o the_o father_n acknowledge_v and_o reprehend_v by_o protestant_n for_o the_o foresaid_a point_n be_v s._n gregory_n austin_n ambrose_n hierome_n chrysostom_n prudentius_n epiphaenius_n pelagius_n the_o four_o carthage_n council_n cyprian_a tertullian_n origin_n clemens_n alexandrinus_n dionysius_n the_o areopagite_n the_o apostle_n and_o the_o ancient_a believe_v jew_n the_o protestant_a writer_n observe_v and_o dislike_n in_o the_o say_a father_n the_o foresaid_a point_n be_v caluin_n beza_n bullinger_n zuinglius_fw-la the_o centurie-writer_n carion_n chemnitius_n osiander_n melancthon_n hospinian_n winkelmannus_n buxdorsius_n bucer_n symonde_n bale_n sutcliffe_n humphrey_n fulk_n whitaker_n gifford_n willet_n &_o morton_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v and_o teach_v our_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o christ_n descend_v into_o hel._n chapter_n xii_o according_a to_o the_o article_n of_o our_o creed_n he_o descend_v into_o hell_n catholic_n general_o teach_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n present_o after_o his_o death_n descend_v into_o hell_n or_o lymbus_n patrum_fw-la or_o abraham_n bosom_n there_o to_o deliver_v and_o redeem_v the_o captive_n soul_n of_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n prophet_n and_o other_o just_a who_o live_v before_o his_o time_n but_o protestant_n be_v divide_v among_o themselves_o act._n themselves_o bu●er_o in_o c._n 27._o mat._n beza_n in_o c._n 2._o act._n some_o of_o they_o teach_v that_o by_o the_o foresay_a article_n be_v only_o understand_v that_o christ_n descend_v to_o his_o grave_n 12_o grave_n calu._n instit_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 16._o §_o 8_o 9_o 10._o 11._o 12_o other_o that_o he_o suffer_v the_o pain_n of_o the_o damn_a soul_n now_o do_v decide_v this_o controversy_n by_o the_o belief_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o that_o by_o the_o confess_a acknowledgement_n of_o our_o adversary_n who_o in_o a_o case_n so_o evident_a liberal_o confess_v the_o general_a stream_n of_o ancient_a doctor_n to_o be_v most_o adverse_a unto_o they_o in_o this_o very_a article_n of_o our_o faith_n whereas_o that_o most_o holy_a and_o ever_o renown_a cardinal_n bellarmine_n in_o proof_n of_o this_o article_n allege_v 14_o allege_v tom._n 1._o l_o 4._o de_fw-mi chri._n anima_fw-la c._n 14_o the_o plain_a testimony_n of_o the_o greek_a father_n as_o namely_o of_o justin_n ireneus_fw-la clemens_n origen_n eusebius_n basil_n nazianzen_n nyssen_n epiphanius_n chrysostome_n etc._n etc._n and_o of_o the_o latin_a father_n tertulian_n hippolytus_n cyprian_n hilary_n gaudentius_n prudentius_n ambrose_n hierome_n ruffinus_n austin_n leo_n fulgentius_n &c_n &c_n the_o protestant_a 176._o protestant_a ad_fw-la bellarm_n disput_fw-la part_n 1._o p._n 176._o danaeus_n in_o answer_n to_o so_o many_o most_o famous_a father_n testimony_n most_o bare_o affirm_v that_o as_o concern_v they_o they_o be_v not_o instruct_v out_o of_o god_n word_n neither_o do_v they_o confirm_v their_o opinion_n from_o it_o but_o only_o from_o their_o own_o conjecture_n etc._n etc._n thus_o suppose_v their_o catholic_n opinion_n herein_o and_o therefore_o reject_v all_o their_o judgement_n as_o confirm_v their_o faith_n only_o by_o their_o own_o conjecture_n in_o danaeus_n his_o opinion_n which_o as_o no_o less_o absurd_a in_o itself_o then_o improbable_a to_o all_o judicious_a i_o omit_v as_o a_o answer_n pure_o protestantical_a in_o like_o plain_a manner_n 773._o manner_n conc._n dur._n l_o 8._o p._n 567_o and_o see_v p._n 773._o d._n whitaker_n in_o answer_n to_o the_o like_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n urge_v by_o our_o catholic_n writer_n duraeus_n write_v thus_o that_o which_o thou_o can_v not_o do_v by_o scripture_n no_o doubt_n thou_o will_v perform_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n of_o who_o that_o i_o may_v free_o and_o brief_o answer_v thou_o what_o i_o
say_v d._n morton_n 27._o morton_n prot._n appeal_n l._n 1._o sec_fw-la 24_o p._n 27._o be_v great_o move_v with_o the_o contrary_a doctrine_n of_o s._n gregory_n allow_v pray_v to_o saint_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o nevertheless_o as_o we_o find_v in_o he_o very_o rare_o any_o prayer_n unto_o saint_n &c_n &c_n so_o desire_v to_o mince_v but_o not_o dare_v to_o deny_v a_o truth_n so_o manifest_a and_o for_o such_o confess_v by_o so_o many_o of_o his_o other_o brethren_n of_o s._n gregory_n his_o defend_v invocation_n of_o saint_n but_o to_o ascend_v from_o s._n gregory_n to_o other_o more_o ancient_a doctor_n 211._o doctor_n exam._n part_n 3._o p._n 211._o chemnitius_n allege_v s._n austin_n invocate_a s._n cyprian_n and_o conclude_v say_v thereof_o these_o thing_n do_v augustin_n without_o scripture_n yield_v to_o the_o time_n and_o custom_n prudentius_n i_o grant_v say_v d._n whitaker_n 141._o whitaker_n answer_v to_o campian_n reas_n 5._o p._n 140._o 141._o as_o a_o poet_n somtim_n call_v upon_o the_o martyr_n who_o act_n he_o describe_v in_o verse_n and_o the_o superstitious_a custom_n of_o pray_v to_o saint_n have_v now_o take_v deep_a root_n in_o the_o church_n which_o as_o a_o tyrant_n hale_v sometime_o the_o holy_a father_n into_o the_o same_o error_n 5._o error_n in_o his_o rejoinder_n to_o bristol_n p_o 5._o d._n fulk_n spare_v not_o to_o speak_v thus_o plain_o i_o confess_v say_v he_o that_o ambrose_n austin_n and_o hierom_n hold_v invocation_n of_o saint_n to_o be_v lawful_a and_o that_o 443._o that_o against_o the_o rhem._n test_n in_o 2._o pet._n c._n 1._o sec_fw-la 3._o fol._n 443._o in_o nazianzene_n basil_n and_o chryostome_n be_v mention_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o that_o theodoret_n also_o speak_v of_o prayer_n unto_o martyr_n as_o also_o that_o leo_n ascribe_v much_o to_o the_o prayer_n of_o s._n peter_n for_o he_o and_o in_o brief_a that_o many_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n hold_v that_o the_o saint_n depart_v pray_v for_o us._n 675._o us._n cent._n 5._o c._n 6._o col_fw-fr 675._o the_o centurist_n charge_n s._n chrysostom_n lyturgie_n with_o invocation_n of_o our_o b._n lady_n by_o name_n chemnitius_n 200._o chemnitius_n exam._n part_n 3._o 200._o avouch_v that_o about_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n three_o hundred_o and_o seaventie_o invocation_n of_o saint_n begin_v to_o be_v bring_v into_o the_o public_a assembly_n of_o the_o church_n by_o basile_n nyssen_n and_o nazianzene_n 211._o nazianzene_n ibid._n p._n 211._o and_o he_o reprehend_v for_o the_o same_o doctrine_n theodoret_n and_o hierome_n a_o french_a protestant_n answer_v to_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n gregory_n nazianzene_n write_v 258._o write_v clypeus_fw-la fidei_fw-la dial._n 8._o p._n 258._o in_o that_o thou_o cite_v s._n gregory_n pray_v to_o s._n basil_n dead_a that_o he_o will_v pray_v for_o he_o i_o will_v let_v thou_o know_v that_o gregory_n know_v not_o what_o he_o say_v when_o he_o say_v so_o belike_o this_o protestant_a thought_n that_o great_a divine_a s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n to_o have_v be_v overtake_v with_o drink_n when_o he_o pray_v so_o as_o we_o may_v just_o suspect_v this_o giddy_a french_a protestant_n be_v when_o he_o write_v thus_o but_o the_o centurie-writer_n 297._o centurie-writer_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 295._o 296._o 297._o allege_v sundry_a example_n of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n athanasius_n basil_n nazianzene_n ambrose_n prudentius_n epiphanius_n and_o ephrem_fw-la 382._o ephrem_fw-la apocal._n in_o c._n 14_o p._n 382._o m._n brightman_n have_v name_v athanasius_n basil_n chrysostom_n nazianzen_n ambrose_n hierom_n austin_n etc._n etc._n reprove_v they_o as_o in_o word_n condemn_v idolatry_n but_o indeed_o establish_v it_o by_o invocation_n of_o saint_n worship_v of_o relic_n and_o such_o like_a wicked_a superstition_n etc._n etc._n say_v he_o and_o whereas_o d._n bishop_n allege_v s._n chrisostom_n affirm_v the_o emperor_n constantin_n to_o have_v pray_v to_o saint_n 17._o saint_n p._n 17._o m._n wotton_n in_o his_o book_n against_o d._n bishop_n only_o answer_v by_o bare_o reject_v the_o say_v for_o suspect_a and_o forge_v yet_o 174._o yet_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o d._n bishop_n p._n 174._o d._n abbot_n acknowledge_v the_o contrary_a say_v we_o deny_v not_o chrysostom_n to_o be_v author_n of_o the_o word_n and_o then_o invent_v a_o answer_n no_o less_o false_a than_o impertinent_a to_o wit_n ibid._n wit_n ibid._n that_o chrisostom_n thereby_o mean_v the_o emperor_n arcadius_n who_o be_v emperor_n above_o sixty_o year_n after_o constantin_n but_o of_o constantin_n it_o be_v say_v he_o that_o we_o inquire_v for_o what_o other_o do_v after_o the_o time_n of_o constantin_n superstition_n more_o and_o more_o increase_v be_v nothing_o concern_v he_o but_o yet_o to_o omit_v all_o other_o answer_n this_o may_v so_o much_o concern_v any_o indifferent_a man_n that_o it_o may_v sufficient_o assure_v he_o that_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v confess_o use_v in_o the_o church_n at_o least_o about_o anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 398._o when_o arcadius_n reign_v yea_o this_o doctrine_n be_v so_o general_a and_o so_o certain_o believe_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n that_o the_o holy_a father_n be_v reprove_v by_o our_o young_a protestant_a writer_n for_o condemn_v the_o contrary_a protestant_a doctrine_n as_o heretical_a in_o vigilantius_n and_o aerius_n d._n fulk_n say_v 46_o say_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterf_n cath._n p._n 46_o last_v of_o all_o vigilantius_n shall_v be_v bring_v in_o who_o write_v against_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n etc._n him_n hierom_n reprove_v and_o 349._o and_o in_o defen_n tract_n de_fw-fr diverse_a p._n 349._o d._n saravia_n and_o beza_n 346._o beza_n ibid._n p._n 346._o do_v both_o of_o they_o affirm_v that_o aërius_n be_v likewise_o charge_v and_o condemn_v by_o the_o father_n for_o his_o then_o affirm_v that_o the_o saint_n depart_v be_v not_o to_o be_v pray_v unto_o but_o to_o arise_v yet_o somewhat_o high_o and_o a_o little_a to_o view_v the_o time_n near_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n beza_n speak_v of_o the_o time_n of_o cyprian_a austin_n and_o chrysostom_n acknowledge_v that_o condens_fw-la that_o prefat_n now_o test_n ad_fw-la princip_n condens_fw-la then_o prevayl_v invocation_n of_o the_o dead_a the_o centurie_n writer_n speak_v of_o 84._o of_o cent._n 3_o col_fw-fr 84._o s._n cyprian_n say_v thus_o very_o cyprian_n in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o first_o epistle_n of_o his_o first_o book_n do_v not_o obscure_o think_v that_o martyr_n and_o saint_n depart_v do_v pray_v for_o the_o live_n 83._o live_n cent._n 3_o col_fw-fr 83._o yea_o they_o further_o charge_v origen_n for_o pray_v o_o holy_a job_n pray_v for_o we_o wretch_n and_o for_o teach_v hom_n 1._o in_o ezech._n that_o angel_n be_v to_o be_v pray_v unto_o but_o to_o avoid_v tediousness_n in_o recite_v the_o other_o particular_a father_n of_o that_o age_n they_o in_o gross_a confess_v 83._o confess_v cent._n 3._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 83._o that_o there_o be_v manifest_a step_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o the_o doctor_n of_o that_o ancient_a age_n which_o be_v the_o three_o age_n or_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o whereas_o 19_o whereas_o l._n 5._o c._n 19_o s._n ireneus_fw-la term_v the_o b._n virgin_n marie_n eve_n advocate_n some_o caluinist_n avouch_v that_o these_o be_v the_o word_n gall._n word_n clype●●_n fidei_fw-la dial._n 8._o p._n 277_o edi●_n gall._n rather_o of_o some_o idolater_n or_o if_o they_o be_v the_o word_n of_o ireneus_fw-la ireneus_fw-la have_v not_o the_o true_a understanding_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o holy_a faith_n of_o christian_a religion_n but_o if_o so_o ancient_a and_o holy_a ireneus_fw-la want_v true_a understanding_n of_o faith_n and_o christian_a religion_n we_o may_v assure_v ourselves_o that_o new_a bear_v protestant_n be_v whole_o blind_a therein_o but_o without_o all_o restraint_n of_o age_n or_o time_n 120._o time_n in_o his_o examination_n &c_n &c_n c._n 9_o p_o 120._o d._n covel_n affirm_v that_o diverse_a both_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n be_v spot_v with_o error_n about_o freewill_a merit_n invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n etc._n yea_o d._n whitguift_n discourse_v of_o 473._o of_o in_o h_z be_v def._n etc._n etc._n against_o the_o reply_n of_o carthwright_n p._n 472._o 473._o doctrine_n teach_v in_o any_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n affirm_v without_o any_o exception_n either_o of_o age_n or_o father_n that_o to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n 473._o word_n ibid._n p._n 473._o almost_o all_o the_o bishop_n and_o learned_a writer_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o latin_a also_o for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v spot_v with_o doctrine_n of_o free_a will_n of_o merit_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o such_o like_a now_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_v hereof_o in_o the_o ancient_a jew_n be_v so_o clear_o record_v in_o the_o book_n of_o 18._o of_o c._n 5._o
seem_v to_o show_v in_o the_o 9_o chapter_n howsoever_o whether_o his_o wife_n die_v or_o he_o leave_v she_o for_o the_o gospel_n of_o his_o own_o accord_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o then_o he_o live_v as_o a_o widower_n who_o before_o be_v marry_v peter_n martyr_n 54._o martyr_n de_fw-fr coel●bata_n &_o votis_fw-la p_o 54._o acknowledge_v that_o s._n ambrose_n and_o epiphanius_n derive_v profess_v chastity_n from_o the_o institution_n of_o s._n paul_n and_o d._n fulk_n 249._o fulk_n against_o rhem_n test_n in_o 1._o tim._n 5._o fol_z 381._o danaeus_n count_v bellarm._n 1_o partis_fw-la ale●ra_fw-la parte_fw-la p._n 1811_o mayor_n in_o ep_n 1._o ad_fw-la tim._n in_o c._n 5_o fol._n 249._o danaeus_n and_o georgius_n mayor_n do_v all_o of_o they_o grant_v that_o by_o the_o first_o faith_n mention_v 1._o tim._n 5_o 11.12_o most_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v expound_v the_o vow_n or_o promise_v of_o continency_n hamelmannus_fw-la 3._o hamelmannus_fw-la de_fw-fr traditionious_a ap_fw-mi st_z o._n 460_o and_o see_v col_fw-fr 254._o and_o bugchagius_n in_o jonam_fw-la c._n 3._o avouch_v that_o after_o the_o death_n of_o john_n the_o apostle_n who_o by_o the_o father_n be_v much_o commend_v and_o esteem_v for_o his_o virginity_n present_o begin_v revolt_a from_o the_o faith_n etc._n etc._n forbid_v of_o marriage_n and_o meat_n vow_n single_a life_n etc._n etc._n d._n fulk_n speak_v of_o our_o b._n lady_n vow_v chastity_n oppose_v himself_o to_o s._n austin_n &_o s._n gregory_n nyssen_n therein_o say_v 13_o say_v ag._n rhem._n test_n in_o luc._n 1._o sec_fw-la 13_o though_o s._n austin_n gather_v she_o vow_v virginity_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o &c._n &c._n and_o although_o gregory_n nyssen_n be_v of_o augustine_n opinion_n etc._n etc._n but_o d._n fulks_n non_fw-la sequitur_fw-la will_v never_o counterpoise_v the_o contrary_a collection_n of_o so_o worthy_a father_n but_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o ancient_a age_n and_o father_n in_o general_a peter_n martyr_n 477._o martyr_n de_fw-fr caelib_n &_o votis_fw-la p._n 477._o think_v that_o forthwith_o after_o the_o apostle_n time_n too_o much_o be_v attribute_v to_o single_a life_n and_o caluin_n 17._o caluin_n instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 13._o sec_fw-la 17._o speak_v hereof_o say_v this_o say_v they_o be_v observe_v from_o further_a memory_n that_o those_o who_o will_v dedicate_v themselves_o whole_o to_o the_o lord_n shall_v bind_v themselves_o to_o the_o vow_n of_o continency_n i_o confess_v this_o custom_n be_v ancient_o receive_v but_o i_o do_v not_o grant_v that_o age_n to_o be_v free_a from_o all_o vice_n in_o like_a sort_n answer_v m._n wotton_n 491._o wotton_n in_o his_o def._n of_o m._n perkins_n p_o 491._o say_v but_o the_o father_n be_v not_o for_o we_o what_o then_o be_v nothing_o true_a that_o can_v be_v confirm_v by_o their_o testimony_n etc._n etc._n indeed_o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o blemish_n of_o the_o ancient_a writer_n that_o they_o be_v too_o high_o conceit_v of_o single_a life_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v look_v for_o that_o antiquity_n shall_v afford_v we_o protestant_n any_o testimony_n herein_o against_o the_o practice_n and_o judgement_n of_o those_o day_n and_o whereas_o bellarmin_n to_o this_o purpose_n produce_v many_o say_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n danaeus_n 1034_o danaeus_n in_o 1._o partis_fw-la a_o t._n parte_fw-la p._n 1034_o his_o best_a answer_n thereto_o be_v that_o those_o father_n thought_n so_o be_v blind_v with_o the_o cloud_n and_o enchantment_n of_o that_o error_n of_o the_o lawful_a vow_n of_o perpetual_a continency_n so_o likewise_o m._n jewel_n 164._o jewel_n in_o his_o def_n of_o the_o apol_n p_o 164._o speak_v concern_v the_o father_n opinion_n against_o marriage_n of_o priest_n say_v here_o i_o grant_v mr_n harding_n be_v like_a to_o find_v some_o good_a advantage_n as_o have_v undoubted_o a_o great_a number_n of_o holy_a father_n on_o his_o side_n add_v last_o that_o the_o father_n herein_o be_v so_o firm_a and_o constant_a as_o that_o d._n fulk_n 45._o fulk_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterf_n cath_z p._n 45._o acknowledge_v that_o jovinian_a be_v condemn_v by_o they_o for_o that_o among_o other_o thing_n he_o teach_v that_o such_o as_o can_v not_o contain_v though_o they_o have_v vow_v virginity_n shall_v nevertheless_o be_v marry_v so_o evident_a &_o confess_v it_o be_v that_o the_o vow_n of_o chastity_n and_o the_o single_a life_n of_o the_o clergy_n be_v allow_v and_o practise_v in_o the_o pure_a time_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n now_o whereas_o it_o be_v law_n decree_v and_o observe_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o bigamus_fw-la or_o he_o that_o have_v be_v twice_o marry_v be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o holy_a order_n without_o special_a dispensation_n therein_o m._n bale_n 47._o bale_n in_o act._n rom_n p._n 44._o 45_o 46._o 47._o acknowledge_v that_o s_o gregory_n the_o great_a prohibit_v that_o he_o that_o be_v bigamus_fw-la shall_v be_v make_v priest_n and_o d_o fulk_n 164._o fulk_n in_o his_o retentive_a against_o bristol_n etc._n etc._n p._n 164._o grant_v that_o he_o who_o have_v have_v two_o wife_n can_v not_o be_v a_o priest_n in_o hieroms_n time_n and_o the_o centurist_n 509._o centurist_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 847_o and_o see_v col_fw-fr 303._o 877._o 1293._o and_o see_v cent_z 3_o col_fw-fr 85_o 86._o &_o carthwright_n in_o his_o 2._o reply_n part_n 1._o p._n 509._o speak_v of_o that_o four_o age_n affirm_v that_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o ordination_n to_o priesthood_n shall_v not_o be_v bestow_v of_o those_o who_o be_v bigami_fw-la but_o beza_n 211._o beza_n de_fw-fr polig_n p._n 211._o reprehend_v herein_o ancient_a origen_n say_v origen_n be_v ancient_a than_o all_o counsel_n except_v that_o of_o the_o apostle_n write_v in_o luc._n hom●7_n ●7_z that_o not_o only_a fornication_n but_o also_o marriage_n do_v hinder_v from_o ecclesiastical_a dignity_n to_o wit_n second_o marriage_n etc._n etc._n but_o here_o i_o affirm_v that_o origen_n be_v to_o be_v altogether_o reject_v as_o contradict_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n yea_o he_o further_o 333._o further_o in_o now_o test_n in_o 1._o tim_n 5.9_o p._n 333._o say_v of_o bigamy_n in_o the_o case_n of_o widow_n if_o any_o shall_v oppose_v to_o i_o the_o authority_n of_o certain_a father_n i_o appeal_v to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o which_o his_o appeal_n he_o be_v reprove_v by_o 220._o by_o in_o his_o survey_v p._n 220._o d._n bancroft_n and_o the_o centurist_n 86._o centurist_n cent_z 3._o col_fw-fr 85._o 86._o do_v allege_v both_o tertullian_n and_o origen_n against_o bigamy_n in_o the_o clergy_n the_o particular_n then_o concern_v vow_n thus_o confess_o teach_v by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v first_o that_o vow_n of_o thing_n not_o command_v but_o indifferent_a as_o of_o perpetual_a chastity_n be_v lawful_a &_o commendable_a second_o that_o though_o for_o some_o time_n as_o then_o it_o be_v permit_v that_o such_o as_o be_v marry_v before_o their_o take_n of_o holy_a order_n shall_v continue_v and_o live_v with_o their_o wife_n in_o the_o state_n of_o wedlock_n yet_o be_v the_o same_o afterward_o even_o during_o the_o precinct_n of_o those_o pure_a time_n prohibit_v and_o disallow_v but_o never_o in_o any_o time_n or_o by_o any_o father_n be_v it_o allow_v to_o the_o clergy_n to_o contract_v marriage_n after_o order_n take_v a_o thing_n now_o so_o ordinary_a with_o our_o protestant_a minister_n three_o it_o be_v never_o suffer_v that_o those_o who_o be_v bigami_fw-la or_o twice_o marry_v shall_v afterward_o be_v admit_v to_o holy_a order_n without_o particular_a dispensation_n therein_o now_o the_o father_n produce_v &_o reprove_v by_o protestant_n for_o these_o foresaid_a catholic_n article_n be_v s._n gregory_n austin_n ambrose_n hierom_n leo_n innocentius_n chrysostom_n epiphanius_n siricius_n socrates_n sozomene_n eusebius_n basil_n cyprian_n nyssen_n origen_n tertulian_n clement_n ignatius_n s._n paul_n the_o apostle_n with_o the_o b._n virgin_n marie_n &_o s._n paul_n widow_n as_o likewise_o the_o counsel_n of_o niece_n of_o arles_n of_o neocesaraea_n of_o eliberis_n of_o toledo_n of_o carthage_n and_o several_a other_o the_o protestant_n accuse_v the_o foresaid_a father_n be_v luther_n the_o centurist_n carion_n chemnitius_n molitor_n danaus_n osiander_n gaunius_n crispinus_n hospinian_n beza_n schulterus_a peter_n martyr_n maior_n hamelmannus_fw-la caluin_n symonde_n bale_n humphrey_n carthwright_n fulk_n bancroft_n wotton_n parkins_n morton_n field_n whitaker_n and_o jewel_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n allow_v and_o practise_v the_o religious_a state_n of_o monastical_a life_n and_o that_o many_o christian_n of_o those_o pure_a time_n both_o man_n and_o woman_n do_v strict_o observe_v &_o profess_v the_o same_o chapter_n xviii_o but_o now_o to_o come_v to_o that_o which_o to_o our_o protestant_n
ireneus_fw-la and_o be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o scripture_n in_o like_a sort_n osiander_n 207._o osiander_n cent._n 2._o p._n 5._o 6._o and_o see_v the_o centurist_n cent._n 2._o col_fw-fr 207._o reprove_v justin_n say_v justine_n extol_v too_o much_o the_o liberty_n of_o man_n will_n in_o observe_v the_o commandment_n of_o god_n and_o it_o be_v grant_v 4._o grant_v cent._n 2._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 59_o and_o see_v caluin_n inst_z l._n 2_o c._n 2_o §._o 4._o that_o clemens_n every_o where_o defend_v freewill_n so_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v say_v they_o that_o not_o only_o all_o the_o doctor_n of_o that_o age_n be_v in_o such_o darkness_n but_o also_o that_o the_o same_o after_o increase_v in_o the_o late_a doctor_n d._n abbot_n 114._o abbot_n in_o defence_n of_o the_o reform_a catholic_n part_n 1._o p._n 114._o speak_v of_o the_o book_n of_o hermes_n entitle_v pastor_n and_o some_o other_o forge_v according_a to_o his_o opinion_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n say_v the_o poison_n which_o satan_n have_v convey_v into_o such_o counterfeit_n book_n be_v receive_v as_o wholesome_a food_n and_o sundry_a error_n and_o superstitious_a fancy_n of_o vow_a virginity_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a of_o freewill_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n of_o antichrist_n and_o the_o assumption_n of_o marie_n and_o such_o like_a by_o little_a and_o little_o get_v footing_n in_o the_o church_n and_o here_o be_v indeed_o say_v abbot_n the_o true_a beginning_n of_o many_o doctrine_n of_o popery_n etc._n etc._n the_o centurist_n 58._o centurist_n cent._n 2._o c._n 4._o 4_o co●_n 58._o speak_v of_o the_o time_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o almost_o no_o point_n of_o doctrine_n begin_v so_o soon_o to_o be_v obscure_v as_o this_o of_o freewill_n yea_o it_o be_v confess_v 23._o confess_v so_o say_v the_o puritan_n cite_v in_o d._n bancroste_n sermon_n p._n 23._o that_o the_o protestant_n know_v that_o ever_o since_o the_o apostle_n time_n in_o a_o manner_n it_o flourish_v every_o where_o until_o martin_n luther_n take_v the_o sword_n in_o hand_n against_o it_o a_o true_a so_o evident_a that_o d._n humphrey_n 530._o humphrey_n jesuit_n part_n 2._o p._n 530._o think_v it_o may_v not_o be_v deny_v but_o that_o ireneus_fw-la clemens_n and_o other_o quos_fw-la vocant_fw-la apostolicos_fw-la who_o they_o call_v apostolical_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o time_n in_o which_o they_o live_v have_v in_o their_o writing_n the_o opinion_n of_o freewill_n etc._n etc._n yea_o say_v m._n caluin_n 9_o caluin_n instit_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 2._o §_o 9_o all_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n except_v augustin_n have_v write_v so_o ambiguous_o and_o different_o in_o this_o matter_n of_o freewill_n that_o nothing_o certain_a can_v be_v gather_v from_o their_o write_n and_o they_o be_v over_o full_a in_o extol_v freewill_n last_o d._n whiteguift_n 473._o whiteguift_n in_o his_o defence_n against_o the_o reply_n of_o carthwright_n p._n 472._o 473._o discourse_v of_o doctrine_n teach_v in_o any_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n affirm_v without_o any_o other_o exception_n of_o age_n or_o father_n that_o to_o use_v his_o word_n almost_o 299._o almost_o ibid._n p._n 473._o and_o see_v the_o like_a in_o whitak_n de_fw-fr eccl._n con._n bellar._n controu_fw-fr 2._o p._n 299._o all_o the_o bishop_n and_o learned_a writer_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o latin_a also_o for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v spot_v with_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_n of_o merit_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o such_o like_a and_o the_o same_o also_o almost_o in_o the_o same_o word_n be_v confess_v by_o d._n covel_n say_v 120._o say_v in_o his_o exam._n c._n 9_o p._n 120._o diverse_a both_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n be_v spot_v with_o error_n about_o freewill_n merit_n invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n etc._n yea_o the_o ancient_a jew_n do_v so_o firm_o believe_v our_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_n that_o to_o omit_v the_o 17._o the_o c._n 15._o 12._o 15._o 16._o 17._o clear_a word_n of_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la which_o d._n whitaker_n have_v no_o other_o way_n 15._o way_n resp_n ad_fw-la camp_n rat._n 1._o p._n 15._o to_o evade_v but_o by_o deny_v the_o say_a book_n to_o be_v canonical_a scripture_n d._n fulk_n term_v 320._o term_v defence_n of_o the_o eng._n transl_n p._n 320._o the_o jewish_a rabbin_n patron_n of_o freewill_n which_o d._n morton_n 371._o morton_n prot._n appeal_n l._n 2._o p._n 371._o iustify_v and_o further_o say_v 370._o say_v ibid._n p._n 370._o what_o if_o it_o be_v confess_v that_o some_o rabbin_n maintain_v the_o liberty_n of_o man_n will_n as_o rabbi_n moses_n do_v yea_o m._n hal_n charge_v the_o pharisee_n 50._o pharisee_n pharisaisme_n p._n 50._o with_o freewill_n and_o merit_n which_o be_v more_o than_o either_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n do_v who_o yet_o in_o other_o respect_n spare_v not_o to_o discover_v their_o true_a error_n well_o then_o our_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o freewill_n be_v the_o primitive_a doctrine_n teach_v by_o s._n gregory_n hierome_n epiphanius_n nazianzene_n basil_n the_o council_n of_o nice_a chrysostome_n athanasius_n lactantius_n cyprian_n origen_n tertulian_n theophilus_n justine_n athenagoras_n tatianus_n clemens_n alexand._n ireneus_fw-la hermes_n and_o by_o all_o the_o father_n since_o the_o apostle_n until_o luther_n time_n our_o strong_a witness_n hereof_o be_v the_o protestant_a writer_n the_o centurist_n beza_n osiander_n hamelmannus_fw-la schultetus_fw-la calum_fw-la humphrey_n abbot_n hal_n morton_n whiteguift_n fulk_n and_o whitaker_n it_o be_v grant_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n teach_v not_o only_a faith_n but_o likewise_o good_a work_n true_o to_o justify_v and_o that_o the_o say_v work_n be_v meritorious_a of_o grace_n and_o glory_n chap._n xxi_o concern_v goodwork_n it_o be_v the_o general_a 5._o general_a see_v bellarmin_n de_fw-fr justificatione_n l._n 1._o 4._o 5._o and_o receive_a doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n first_o that_o the_o work_n of_o the_o just_a be_v true_o good_a and_o not_o of_o their_o own_o nature_n sin_n second_o that_o not_o only_a faith_n but_o likewise_o good_a work_n do_v true_o justify_v a_o man_n &_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n three_o that_o the_o same_o good_a work_n do_v true_o merit_v or_o deserve_v grace_n in_o this_o world_n and_o glory_n in_o the_o next_o direct_o 2._o direct_o luther_n in_o assert_v art_n 31._o 32._o 36._o caluin_n instit_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n ●●_o §_o 4._o and_o c._n 41._o §._o 9_o etc._n etc._n 19_o §._o 2._o 4._o 7._o etc._n etc._n 15._o §_o 2._o contrary_a to_o all_o the_o foresaid_a point_n concern_v goodwork_n be_v the_o ordinary_a doctrine_n of_o our_o new_a protestant_n first_o affirm_v that_o the_o best_a work_n of_o the_o just_a be_v of_o their_o own_o nature_n deadly_a sin_n s●condly_o that_o only_a faith_n do_v justify_v three_o and_o last_o that_o work_n do_v neither_o merit_n grace_n nor_o glory_n to_o come_v now_o to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o faith_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n the_o 748._o the_o cen●_n 6._o c._n 10._o col_fw-fr 748._o centurist_n make_v a_o catalogue_n of_o s._n gregory_n pretend_a error_n among_o the_o rest_n number_v his_o error_n of_o good_a work_n and_o justification_n and_o 288._o and_o cent._n 6._o p._n 288._o osiander_n much_o reprove_v he_o for_o that_o he_o attribute_v over_o much_o to_o good_a work_n s._n augustin_n be_v reject_v by_o wittemb_v by_o in_o confess_v wittemb_v brentius_n for_o that_o the_o teach_v affiance_n in_o man_n merit_n towards_o remission_n of_o sin_n the_o 509._o the_o harmony_n of_o confess_v in_o english_a sec_fw-la 16._o p._n 509._o divine_n of_o wittenberg_n affirm_v that_o these_o reason_n which_o augustin_n bring_v for_o his_o opinion_n of_o purgatory_n do_v seem_v to_o lean_v to_o this_o foundation_n that_o we_o obtain_v remission_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o life_n not_o only_o for_o christ_n his_o sake_n through_o faith_n but_o also_o for_o the_o merit_n of_o our_o work_n and_o for_o the_o same_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n of_o work_n he_o be_v further_a reprehend_v by_o 520._o by_o cent._n 4._o p._n 520._o osiander_n the_o 1133._o the_o cent._n 5._o col_fw-fr 507._o 1133._o centurist_n 15._o centurist_n instit_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 11._o §_o 15._o caluin_n 170._o caluin_n l._n 1._o ep._n p._n 290_o &_o in_o consil_n theol._n p._n 240._o and_o see_v colloq_fw-la altemberg_n fol._n 307._o field_n of_o the_o church_n l._n 3._o c._n 42_o p._n 170._o melancthon_n and_o d._n field_n so_o likewise_o the_o 1178._o the_o cent._n 5._o col_fw-fr 1178._o centurie-writer_n speak_v of_o s._n chrysostom_n affirm_v that_o chrysostom_n handle_v impure_o the_o doctrine_n of_o justification_n and_o attribute_v merit_n to_o work_n they_o likewise_o say_v of_o prosper_n 1363._o prosper_n cent._n 5._o c._n 10._o col_fw-fr 1363._o that_o he_o retain_v not_o a_o few_o freckle_n of_o his_o age_n such_o a_o
father_n in_o particular_a pronounce_v of_o they_o in_o general_a thus_o ecclesiae_fw-la thus_o in_o col._n conuival_n c._n de_fw-fr patribus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la see_v you_o what_o darkness_n there_o be_v in_o the_o father_n writing_n concern_v faith_n for_o when_o that_o article_n of_o the_o justification_n of_o man_n be_v cover_v with_o darkness_n it_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v that_o great_a error_n he_o avoid_v bullinger_n do_v 270._o do_v in_o apoc._n serm._n 87._o fol._n 270._o acknowledge_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n satisfaction_n and_o justification_n of_o work_n do_v incontinent_o after_o the_o apostle_n time_n lie_v their_o first_o foundation_n caluin_n affirm_v in_o general_a that_o 2._o that_o inst_z l._n 3._o c._n 25._o §._o 2._o the_o ancient_a writer_n of_o the_o church_n use_v every_a where_o the_o word_n merit_n give_v occasion_n of_o error_n to_o posterity_n thereby_o add_v last_o that_o d._n whiteguift_n 473._o whiteguift_n in_o his_o def._n against_o the_o reply_n of_o carthw_o p._n 472._o 473._o treat_v of_o doctrine_n teach_v in_o any_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n affirm_v without_o all_o other_o exception_n either_o of_o age_n or_o father_n that_o almost_o all_o the_o bishop_n and_o learned_a writer_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o latin_a also_o for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v spot_v with_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_n of_o merit_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o same_o be_v likewise_o teach_v by_o 299._o by_o de_fw-fr eccl._n cont_n bellar._n p._n 299._o d._n whitaker_n now_o concern_v the_o ancient_a jew_n the_o book_n of_o 4.10_o of_o c._n 12_o 9_o &_o 4.10_o toby_n and_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la 33._o ecclesiasticus_fw-la c._n 3._o 33._o be_v so_o pregnant_a for_o the_o merit_n of_o work_n that_o sundry_a protestant_n say_v thereof_o 76._o thereof_o minist_n of_o lincoln_n diocese_n in_o their_o abridgement_n p._n 76._o the_o two_o place_n of_o toby_n and_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la tend_v dangerous_o to_o the_o justify_n of_o the_o merit_n of_o almsdeed_n and_o other_o write_v against_o the_o book_n of_o homily_n say_v 164._o say_v silenced_a minister_n in_o the_o 2._o part_v of_o def._n p._n 164._o the_o book_n of_o homily_n whereto_o we_o be_v require_v to_o subscribe_v etc._n etc._n expoundes_o toby_n say_v that_o alm_n be_v profitable_a to_o purge_v the_o soul_n from_o the_o spot_n of_o sin_n allege_v these_o word_n of_o toby_n 4.10_o and_o 12.19_o etc._n etc._n and_o out_o of_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la etc._n etc._n yea_o they_o further_o say_v this_o 166._o this_o ib._n p._n 166._o place_n of_o toby_n be_v it_o canonical_a etc._n etc._n be_v very_o pregnant_a for_o the_o merit_n of_o work_n and_o as_o strong_a for_o it_o as_o the_o scripture_n be_v for_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n buxdorfius_n also_o write_v of_o the_o rabbin_n that_o 23._o that_o synagog_n judaica_n p._n 23._o they_o persuade_v themselves_o that_o they_o may_v satisfy_v for_o their_o sin_n by_o do_v penance_n upon_o their_o skin_n and_o that_o they_o may_v easy_o merit_v eternal_a life_n by_o keep_v of_o the_o commandment_n and_o good_a work_n and_o the_o same_o also_o be_v acknowledge_v in_o they_o by_o 50._o by_o pharisaisme_n p._n 13._o 50._o m._n hal._n i_o may_v then_o conclude_v that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v our_o firm_a patron_n for_o our_o catholic_n doctrine_n concern_v goodwork_n confess_o teach_n first_o that_o goodwork_n do_v true_o justify_v second_o merit_v grace_n and_o remission_n of_o sin_n in_o this_o life_n and_o eternal_a glory_n in_o the_o next_o for_o which_o very_a doctrine_n the_o father_n acknowledge_v by_o protestant_n be_v s._n gregory_n chrysostom_n augustin_n prosper_n ambrose_n hierom_n nyssene_n nazianzene_n hilary_n ephrem_n cyprian_n origen_n tertulian_n theophilus_n lactantius_n justin_n clemens_n alex._n ireneus_fw-la hermes_n ignatius_n and_o the_o ancient_a believe_v jew_n the_o protestant_a writer_n produce_v and_o charge_v the_o foresaid_a father_n be_v luther_n the_o centurist_n brentius_n the_o divine_n of_o wittenberg_n osiander_n caluin_n melancthon_n chemnitius_n winkilmamus_fw-la schultetus_fw-la bullinger_n buxdorfeus_n wotton_n whitaker_n humphrey_n covel_n and_o whiteguift_n it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o ceremony_n now_o use_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o the_o minister_a of_o service_n or_o sacrifice_n as_o also_o of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v former_o use_v by_o the_o bishop_n priest_n and_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n chap._n xxii_o have_v thus_o pass_v through_o so_o many_o particular_a controversy_n of_o great_a weight_n and_o find_v in_o all_o of_o they_o a_o perfect_a agreement_n and_o sweet_a harmony_n between_o the_o ancient_a most_o holy_a and_o primitive_a church_n and_o the_o present_a roman_n catholic_n church_n and_o this_o by_o no_o weak_a proof_n or_o evidence_n than_o the_o free_a grant_n confession_n and_o acknowledgement_n of_o our_o swear_a and_o profess_a adversary_n i_o will_v now_o for_o my_o conclusion_n in_o this_o kind_n only_a examen_fw-la one_o point_n further_o which_o be_v not_o pure_o doctrinal_a but_o most_o sensible_a and_o external_a will_v thereby_o not_o only_o prove_v most_o accommodate_v to_o the_o sense_n and_o capacity_n of_o the_o mean_a reader_n but_o withal_o will_v most_o evident_o declare_v and_o make_v manifest_a the_o outward_a gracious_a and_o beautiful_a face_n of_o christian_a religion_n practise_v by_o the_o ancient_a learned_a and_o holy_a bishop_n doctor_n and_o people_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n nothing_o be_v better_a know_v either_o to_o those_o of_o great_a year_n who_o as_o yet_o may_v well_o remember_v the_o ecclesiastical_a rite_n and_o custom_n of_o our_o own_o kingdom_n or_o to_o other_o more_o modern_a who_o have_v travail_v foreign_a nation_n than_o the_o external_a ceremony_n use_v in_o material_a church_n in_o celebration_n of_o service_n and_o administration_n of_o the_o most_o holy_a 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since_o almost_o from_o the_o very_a beginning_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v usual_a that_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n lay_v people_n may_v baptise_v if_o the_o minister_n be_v not_o present_a so_o clear_o it_o be_v that_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v general_o teach_v that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n do_v true_o give_v grace_n as_o catholic_n believe_v and_o not_o only_o signify_v the_o same_o as_o protestant_n pretend_v second_o as_o concern_v the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n or_o confession_n the_o centurist_n 127._o centurist_n centur._n 3._o c._n 6._o col_fw-fr 127._o speak_v of_o the_o general_a use_n thereof_o in_o the_o ancient_a time_n of_o tertullian_n and_o cyprian_a report_n that_o they_o give_v absolution_n from_o sin_n thus_o if_o any_o do_v penance_n they_o first_o confess_v their_o sin_n for_o so_o tertullian_n great_o urge_v confession_n in_o his_o book_n of_o penance_n and_o that_o private_a confession_n be_v usual_a in_o which_o they_o confess_v their_o 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the_o father_n doctrine_n and_o practice_n that_o d._n whitaker_n himself_o confute_v it_o in_o these_o word_n 78._o word_n cont._n camp_n rat_n 5._o p._n 78._o the_o father_n thought_n by_o their_o external_a discipline_n to_o pay_v the_o pain_n due_a for_o sin_n and_o to_o satisfy_v god_n justice_n and_o that_o not_o cyprian_n only_o but_o almost_o all_o the_o holy_a father_n of_o that_o time_n be_v in_o that_o error_n and_o deprave_a the_o doctrine_n of_o penance_n 78._o penance_n ib._n p._n 78._o yea_o say_v melancthon_n 11._o melancthon_n libelli_fw-la aliquot_fw-la etc._n etc._n fol._n 11._o all_o the_o council_n of_o nyce_n overcome_v with_o the_o consent_n of_o multitude_n and_o of_o the_o time_n approve_v the_o canon_n of_o penance_n so_o that_o our_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o confession_n penance_n and_o pardon_n be_v the_o general_a confess_v doctrine_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n three_o as_o concern_v the_o real_a presence_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n 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de_fw-la cena_n domini_fw-la p._n 37._o to_o avoid_v their_o say_n as_o be_v say_v he_o serviceable_a to_o antichrist_n and_o overmuch_o vary_v from_o the_o scripture_n whereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v whole_o agreeable_a to_o our_o roman_a church_n in_o this_o weighty_a article_n of_o real_a presence_n 4._o concern_v holy_a order_n d._n field_n avouch_v 150_o avouch_v of_o the_o church_n l._n 5._o p._n 121._o and_o see_v the_o like_o cent._n 3._o c._n 7._o col._n 149._o 150_o that_o there_o be_v no_o question_n but_o that_o the_o minor_a order_n of_o subdeacons_n acolyte_n exorcist_n lector_n &_o ostiaries_n be_v very_o ancient_a in_o proof_n whereof_o he_o allege_v s._n cyprian_n and_o many_o other_o father_n 5._o as_o touch_v extreme-vnction_n d._n whitaker_n answer_v to_o the_o sundry_a ancient_a father_n object_v testimony_n in_o behalf_n thereof_o confess_v say_v 650._o say_v contra_fw-la dureum_fw-la l._n 8._o p._n 650._o i_o confess_v the_o 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which_o melchisedech_n bring_v forth_o be_v sacrifice_v by_o he_o and_o that_o it_o be_v a_o figure_n of_o
chief_a of_o the_o worshipper_n so_o general_a and_o receive_v be_v the_o practice_n hereof_o in_o the_o time_n of_o paulinus_n who_o as_o osiander_n relate_v be_v 387._o be_v cent._n 5._o p._n 387._o familiar_a with_o hierom_n austin_n and_o ambrose_n 16._o concern_v the_o vow_n of_o chastity_n chemnitius_n confess_v that_o 41._o that_o exam._n part_n 3._o p._n 41._o we_o be_v not_o ignorant_a that_o the_o father_n allow_v the_o vow_n of_o perpetual_a chastity_n and_o that_o they_o think_v they_o to_o be_v obligatorie_n i_o know_v say_v peter_n martyr_n that_o 524._o that_o de_fw-fr votis_n p._n 524._o epiphanius_n with_o many_o other_o father_n err_v in_o that_o they_o affirm_v it_o to_o be_v sin_n to_o break_v this_o vow_n when_o need_n shall_v require_v and_o that_o he_o refer_v the_o same_o naughty_o to_o apostolical_a tradition_n yea_o say_v m._n wotton_n it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o blemish_n 491._o blemish_n defence_n of_o parkins_n p._n 491._o of_o the_o ancient_a writer_n 17._o 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socrates_n do_v mention_n monk_n almost_o in_o every_o page_n and_o the_o centurist_n do_v begin_v a_o whole_a special_a tract_n the_o title_n whereof_o be_v 294._o be_v cent._n 4._o c._n 10._o col_fw-fr 294._o of_o the_o monk_n through_o syria_n palestina_n bythinia_n and_o the_o other_o place_n of_o asia_n under_o constantin_n the_o great_a as_o also_o the_o title_n of_o another_o tract_n be_v 1306._o be_v cent._n 4._o c_o 10._o col_fw-fr 1306._o the_o african_a monk_n through_o egypt_n under_o constantin_n the_o great_a and_o the_o title_n of_o another_o tract_n be_v 1331._o be_v ib._n col_fw-fr 1331._o the_o monk_n through_o europe_n so_o that_o in_o those_o pure_a and_o ancient_a time_n religious_a or_o monastical_a life_n be_v general_o practise_v over_o the_o whole_a face_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n even_o through_o asia_n africa_n and_o europe_n 19_o prescribe_v time_n for_o fast_v be_v so_o ancient_a and_o general_a that_o chemnitius_n confess_v that_o 89._o that_o exam._n par_fw-fr 1._o p._n 89._o ambrose_n maximus_n taurinensis_n theophilus_n hierome_n and_o other_o do_v affirm_v the_o fast_a of_o lend_v to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o caluin_n profess_v that_o 19_o that_o instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 1_o 2._o §._o 19_o herein_o he_o dare_v not_o excuse_v the_o old_a father_n but_o that_o they_o sow_v some_o seed_n of_o superstition_n and_o that_o 20._o that_o ib._n §._o 20._o every_o where_o the_o observation_n of_o superstitious_a lent_n be_v in_o force_n 20._o concern_v freewill_a some_o protestant_n say_v 59_o say_v a_o discover_v of_o untruth_n contain_v in_o d._n bancroft_n serm_n p._n 23._o 59_o we_o know_v that_o ever_o since_o the_o apostle_n time_n in_o a_o manner_n it_o flourish_v every_o where_o till_o martin_n luther_n take_v the_o sword_n in_o hand_n against_o it_o the_o centurist_n speak_v of_o the_o time_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n say_v 59_o in_o like_a sort_n clemens_n affirm_v every_o where_o freewill_a that_o it_o may_v appear_v not_o only_o all_o the_o doctor_n of_o that_o age_n to_o have_v be_v in_o such_o darkness_n but_o that_o it_o likewise_o increase_v in_o their_o successor_n 21._o merit_n of_o work_n be_v so_o general_o believe_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n that_o d._n whitaker_n charge_v with_o error_n therein_o 78._o therein_o resp_n ad_fw-la camp_n p._n 78._o not_o only_o cyprian_a but_o almost_o to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n all_o the_o most_o holy_a father_n of_o that_o time_n and_o 531._o and_o jesuit_n par_fw-fr 2_o p._n 531._o it_o may_v not_o be_v deny_v say_v d._n humphrey_n but_o that_o ireneus_fw-la clemens_n and_o other_o call_v apostolical_a have_v nothing_o apostolical_o insert_v into_o their_o writing_n the_o opinion_n of_o freewill_a and_o merit_n of_o work_n 22._o and_o as_o for_o the_o use_n of_o ceremony_n in_o the_o church_n m._n calfhil_n affirm_v that_o 132._o that_o in_o fulks_n rejoinder_n to_o marshal_n reply_n p._n 131._o 132._o the_o father_n decline_v all_o from_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o ceremony_n melancthon_n also_o affirm_v that_o 3._o that_o in_o 1._o cor._n c._n 3._o present_o from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o church_n the_o ancient_a father_n obscure_v the_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o justice_n of_o faith_n increase_a ceremony_n and_o devise_v peculiar_a worship_n 23._o but_o to_o include_v many_o in_o one_o d._n whiteguift_n a_o prime_a metrapolitan_a among_o protestant_n discourse_v 473._o discourse_v defence_n etc._n etc._n p._n 472._o 473._o of_o doctrine_n teach_v in_o any_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n affirm_v without_o any_o exception_n either_o of_o age_n or_o father_n that_o almost_o all_o the_o bishop_n and_o learned_a writer_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o latin_a also_o for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v spot_v with_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_a of_o merit_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o such_o like_o etc._n etc._n mean_v thereby_o such_o other_o like_o point_n of_o our_o catholic_n religion_n which_o his_o assertion_n have_v since_o be_v renew_v by_o d._n covel_n who_o speak_v of_o the_o ancient_a father_n use_v these_o like_a word_n as_o 120._o as_o exam._n against_o the_o plea_n of_o the_o innoc._n p._n 120._o diverse_a both_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n be_v spot_v with_o the_o error_n about_o freewill_a merit_n inuocotion_n of_o saint_n many_o thing_n express_v their_o papistry_n may_v be_v allege_v in_o this_o kind_n if_o it_o be_v any_o virtue_n to_o rip_v up_o their_o fault_n who_o we_o ought_v to_o honour_n and_o whereas_o bellarmin_n allege_v 9_o allege_v de_fw-fr not._n ecclesiae_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 9_o the_o particular_a say_n of_o caluin_n and_o the_o centurie-writer_n as_o charge_v the_o ancient_a father_n with_o our_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_a lymbus_n patrum_fw-la denial_n of_o our_o concupiscence_n without_o consent_n to_o be_v sin_n satisfaction_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a merit_n pennance_n the_o fast_a of_o lent_n the_o unmarried_a life_n of_o priest_n baptism_n of_o lay-person_n in_o case_n of_o necessity_n the_o manner_n of_o sacrifice_a etc._n etc._n d._n whitaker_n answer_v thereto_o iustify_v the_o same_o say_v 299._o say_v de_fw-fr eccles_n count_v bellarm._n contr._n 2_o q._n 5._o p._n 299._o bellarmin_n allege_v certain_a testimony_n from_o caluin_n and_o the_o centurie-writer_n as_o note_v certain_a error_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n which_o be_v common_a to_o they_o with_o the_o papist_n as_o namely_o freewill_a merit_n lymbus_n invocation_n of_o saint_n the_o unmarried_a life_n of_o priest_n satisfaction_n and_o certain_a other_o such_o like_o etc._n etc._n before_o mention_v by_o bellarmine_n i_o answer_v thereto_o that_o it_o be_v true_a which_o caluin_n and_o the_o centurie-writer_n have_v write_v that_o in_o many_o thing_n the_o ancient_a church_n err_v as_o in_o lymbus_n freewill_a merit_n of_o work_n and_o in_o all_o the_o residue_n of_o those_o other_o before_o recite_v 24._o in_o like_a sort_n m._n brightman_n have_v name_v s._n athanasius_n s._n basil_n s._n chrysostom_n s._n ambrose_n s._n hierom_n s._n augustin_n etc._n etc._n affirm_v of_o they_o all_o that_o 382._o that_o in_o apoc._n in_o c._n 14._o p._n 382._o in_o word_n they_o condemn_v idolatry_n but_o in_o deed_n they_o establish_v it_o by_o invocation_n of_o saint_n worship_v of_o relic_n and_o such_o other_o wicked_a popish_a superstition_n 25._o beza_n speak_v of_o the_o time_n of_o s._n cyprian_n s._n austin_n and_o s._n chrysostom_n avouch_v that_o con_v that_o praef._n in_o nou._n test_n ad_fw-la princip_n con_v then_o satan_n lay_v the_o first_o foundation_n in_o greece_n of_o invocation_n of_o the_o dead_a whereto_o some_o of_o the_o chief_a bishop_n be_v so_o far_o from_o resist_v &c._n &c._n other_o &c._n &c._n do_v not_o only_o not_o repress_v open_a superstition_n arise_v but_o do_v also_o nourish_v they_o etc._n etc._n hence_o those_o opinion_n of_o freewill_a of_o faith_n
avouch_v 373._o avouch_v in_o d._n bancroft_n survey_v p._n 373._o that_o if_o paul_n shall_v come_v to_o geneva_n and_o preach_v the_o same_o hour_n that_o caluin_n do_v i_o will_v leave_v say_v he_o paul_n and_o hear_v caluin_n and_o 372._o and_o ibid._n p._n 372._o another_z in_o basile_n do_v attribute_v no_o less_o to_o farellus_n then_o to_o paul_n yea_o some_o of_o luther_n scholar_n 35_o not_o the_o mean_a among_o their_o doctor_n say_v 146._o say_v lavaterus_n hist_o sacram_fw-la p._n 18._o see_v schlusselb_n theol._n cal._n l._n 2._o f._n 146._o they_o have_v rather_o doubt_v of_o s._n paul_n doctrine_n they_o of_o luther_n or_o the_o confession_n of_o augusta_n and_o yet_o the_o doctrine_n of_o luther_n be_v often_o so_o absurd_a so_o impure_a and_o scandalous_a as_o that_o some_o protestant_n themselves_o as_o much_o ashamed_a thereof_o have_v reject_v the_o same_o and_o the_o confession_n of_o augusta_n have_v be_v often_o impugn_a by_o sundry_a caluinist_n but_o preaduenture_o s._n peter_n be_v in_o better_a credit_n then_o s._n paul_n and_o yet_o i_o find_v he_o rebuke_v by_o protestant_n for_o his_o claim_n of_o primacy_n 27._o primacy_n catalogue_n testium_fw-la veritatis_fw-la to_o 1._o p._n 27._o it_o can_v be_v deny_v say_v they_o but_o that_o sometime_o peter_n labour_v with_o ambition_n and_o desire_n of_o greatness_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o this_o so_o perverse_a ambition_n of_o peter_n and_o ignorance_n and_o negligence_n of_o divine_a matter_n etc._n etc._n but_o luther_n say_v further_a 1._o further_a in_o epist_n ad_fw-la gal._n c._n 1._o be_v it_o that_o the_o church_n austin_n and_o other_o doctor_n also_o peter_n apollo_n yea_o and_o a_o angel_n from_o heaven_n teach_v otherwise_o yet_o be_v my_o doctrine_n such_o as_o set_v forth_o god_n only_a glory_n etc._n etc._n peter_n the_o chief_a of_o the_o apostle_n do_v live_v and_o teach_v beside_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o again_o 290._o again_o tom._n 5._o wittemb_v f._n 290._o whether_o s._n cyprian_n ambrose_n austin_n or_o s._n peter_n s._n paul_n yea_o a_o angel_n from_o heaven_n teach_v otherwise_o yet_o i_o know_v this_o certain_o that_o i_o do_v not_o persuade_v humane_a but_o divine_a thing_n caluin_n likewise_o affirm_v that_o peter_n pretend_a err_v be_v 511._o be_v in_o omnes_fw-la pauli_n epist_n in_o gal._n c._n 2._o p._n 510._o 511._o 37_o to_o the_o schism_n of_o the_o church_n the_o endanger_n of_o christian_a liberty_n and_o the_o overthrow_n of_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n 38_o d._n fulk_n charge_v s._n peter_n with_o error_n of_o ignorance_n and_o against_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o that_o this_o pretend_v err_v of_o s._n peter_n 322._o peter_n against_o rhem._n test_n in_o gal._n 2._o f._n 322._o be_v even_o after_o the_o descend_v of_o the_o holie-ghost_n upon_o he_o d._n goad_n avouch_v say_v 6._o say_v tower_n disp_n 2._o confer_v arg._n 6._o p●ter_n do_v err_v in_o faith_n and_o that_o after_o the_o send_v down_o of_o the_o holie-ghost_n upon_o he_o brentius_n likewise_o affirm_v that_o 900._o that_o in_o apol._n conf._n c._n de_fw-la concilijs_fw-la p._n 900._o s._n peter_n chief_a of_o the_o apostle_n and_o also_o barnabas_n after_o the_o holie-ghost_n receive_v together_o with_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n err_v in_o like_a sort_n say_v d._n whitaker_n 223._o whitaker_n de_fw-fr eccl._n cont_n bellar._n controu_fw-fr 2._o q._n 4._o p._n 223._o but_o peradventure_o they_o will_v say_v christ_n have_v not_o yet_o ascend_v and_o the_o holie-ghost_n be_v not_o yet_o give_v to_o the_o apostle_n whereto_o he_o immediate_o thus_o repli_v what_o do_v they_o not_o err_v afterward_o yea_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o after_o christ_n ascension_n and_o the_o descension_n of_o the_o holie-ghost_n upon_o the_o apostle_n the_o whole_a church_n not_o only_o the_o common_a sort_n of_o christian_n but_o also_o even_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o err_v concern_v the_o call_n of_o the_o gentile_n etc._n etc._n yea_o peter_n also_o err_v concern_v the_o abrogation_n of_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o in_o this_o peter_n err_v he_o furthermore_o also_o err_v in_o manner_n etc._n etc._n and_o these_o be_v great_a error_n and_o yet_o we_o see_v these_o to_o have_v be_v in_o the_o apostle_n even_o after_o the_o holie-ghost_n descend_v upon_o they_o so_o that_o s._n peter_n be_v of_o as_o small_a authority_n with_o protestant_n as_o s._n paul_n before_o be_v to_o come_v now_o to_o s._n james_n andreas_n frivius_n a_o caluinist_n who_o 77._o who_o com._n plac._n in_o engl._n part_n 4._o p._n 77._o peter_n martyr_n term_v a_o excellent_a learned_a man_n affirm_v that_o 411._o that_o ib._n 2._o de_fw-fr eccl._n c._n 2._o p._n 411._o christ_n at_o his_o last_o supper_n join_v wine_n with_o bread_n if_o therefore_o the_o church_n separate_v these_o she_o be_v not_o to_o be_v hear_v the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n do_v separate_v these_o s._n james_n as_o some_o dare_v affirm_v give_v only_o one_o kind_n to_o the_o people_n of_o jerusalem_n what_o then_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v plain_a and_o manifest_a eat_v and_o drink_v this_o be_v to_o be_v hear_v of_o we_o and_o prefer_v before_o all_o james_n &_o word_n of_o the_o church_n and_o 86._o and_o de_fw-fr captivit_fw-la bab._n c._n de_fw-fr extr._n unct_n tom_fw-mi 2._o wittemb_v f_o 86._o further_o say_v say_v luther_n that_o if_o in_o any_o place_n it_o be_v err_v in_o this_o place_n especial_o concern_v extreame-vnction_n it_o be_v err_v etc._n etc._n but_o though_o this_o be_v the_o epistle_n of_o james_n i_o will_v answer_v that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o a_o apostle_n by_o his_o authority_n to_o institute_v a_o sacrament_n this_o appertain_v to_o christ_n alone_o as_o though_o s._n james_n will_v institute_v or_o publish_v a_o sacrament_n without_o warrant_n from_o christ_n and_o the_o centurist_n before_o affirm_v that_o s._n paul_n be_v draw_v into_o error_n by_o s._n james_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n now_o as_o concern_v s._n james_n his_o epistle_n luther_n avouch_v that_o jen._n that_o praef._n in_o epist_n jacobi_fw-la in_o edit_fw-la jen._n the_o epistle_n of_o james_n be_v contentious_a swell_a dry_a strawie_a and_o unworthy_a a_o apostolical_a spirit_n as_o also_o gen._n also_o adc._n 22._o gen._n abraham_n be_v just_a by_o faith_n before_o he_o be_v know_v to_o be_v so_o by_o god_n therefore_o james_n conclude_v ill_a etc._n etc._n it_o do_v not_o follow_v as_o james_n doat_v etc._n etc._n let_v our_o adversary_n therefore_o be_v pack_v with_o their_o james_n who_o they_o object_n so_o often_o unto_o us._n again_o test_n again_o in_o coll._n mensal_n lat_fw-la tom_fw-mi 2._o de_fw-fr lib._n now_o test_n many_o have_v much_o labour_v in_o the_o epistle_n of_o james_n that_o they_o may_v accord_v it_o with_o paul_n as_o philip_n try_v in_o his_o apology_n but_o without_o success_n for_o they_o be_v contrary_a faith_n justifi_v faith_n justifi_v not_o agreable_o hereunto_o also_o say_v musculus_fw-la justific_a musculus_fw-la loc._n come_v c_o the_o justific_a the_o papist_n object_n the_o epistle_n of_o james_n but_o he_o whosoever_o he_o be_v the_o brother_n of_o christ_n and_o a_o pillar_n among_o the_o apostle_n and_o a_o great_a apostle_n above_o measure_n yet_o he_o alone_a can_v prejudice_n the_o truth_n of_o faith_n and_o after_o the_o disagreement_n between_o s._n paul_n and_o s._n james_n according_a to_o his_o imagination_n show_v at_o large_a he_o thus_o school_v and_o correct_v s._n james_n he_o allege_v the_o example_n of_o abraham_n nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n where_o he_o say_v will_v thou_o know_v o_o vain_a man_n that_o faith_n without_o work_n be_v dead_a etc._n etc._n he_o confound_v the_o word_n faith_n how_o much_o better_a have_v it_o be_v for_o he_o diligent_o and_o plain_o to_o have_v distinguish_v the_o true_a and_o proper_o christian_a faith_n which_o the_o apostle_n ever_o preach_v from_o that_o which_o be_v common_a both_o to_o jew_n and_o christian_n turk_n and_o devil_n then_o to_o confound_v they_o both_o and_o set_v down_o his_o sentence_n so_o different_a from_o the_o apostolical_a doctrine_n whereby_o as_o conclude_v he_o say_v you_o see_v that_o a_o man_n be_v justify_v by_o work_n and_o not_o by_o faith_n alone_o whereas_o the_o apostle_n out_o of_o the_o same_o place_n dispute_v thus_o etc._n etc._n where_o have_v make_v s._n paul_n to_o speak_v as_o he_o think_v best_o he_o infer_v thus_o say_v the_o apostle_n of_o who_o doctrine_n we_o doubt_v not_o compare_v i_o now_o with_o this_o argument_n of_o the_o apostle_n the_o conclusion_n of_o this_o james_n a_o man_n therefore_o be_v iustify_v by_o work_n and_o not_o by_o faith_n only_o and_o see_v how_o much_o it_o differ_v whereas_o he_o shall_v more_o right_o have_v conclude_v thus_o etc._n etc._n