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A49845 Observations upon Mr. Wadsworth's book of the souls immortality and his confutation of the opinion of the souls inactivity to the time of general resurrection, 80. Layton, Henry, 1622-1705. 1670 (1670) Wing L758; ESTC R39124 150,070 217

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son_n of_o god_n and_o come_v down_o from_o the_o cross_n and_o the_o thief_n also_o which_o be_v crucify_v with_o he_o cast_v the_o same_o in_o his_o tooth_n which_o i_o conceive_v to_o be_v a_o true_a and_o proper_a translation_n of_o st._n matthew'_v greek_a word_n mark_v 15.27_o with_o christ_n they_o crucify_v two_o thief_n the_o one_o on_o his_o right_a hand_n and_o the_o other_o on_o his_o left_a and_o they_o that_o pass_v by_o rail_v on_o he_o and_o they_o that_o be_v crucify_v with_o he_o revile_v he_o both_o these_o text_n in_o greek_a agree_v in_o their_o expression_n mat._n 27.44_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mark_v 15.32_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d here_o our_o translator_n in_o st._n matthew_n have_v render_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d