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xxxvii_o article_n of_o those_o thirty-nine_o of_o the_o protestant_a church_n of_o england_n and_o give_v it_o so_o at_o length_n not_o only_o that_o you_o may_v see_v in_o it_o catholic_n doctor_n and_o writer_n enough_o confirm_v what_o i_o have_v so_o answer_v in_o the_o affirmative_a to_o this_o query_n but_o for_o to_o clear_v your_o judgement_n in_o some_o other_o matter_n also_o relate_v to_o the_o subject_a in_o hand_n here_o or_o at_o least_o to_o that_o of_o my_o whole_a discourse_n of_o ecclesiastical_a exemption_n if_o not_o to_o some_o other_o question_n in_o this_o my_o present_a book_n and_o yet_o give_v it_o not_o as_o meaning_n to_o tie_v myself_o in_o all_o thing_n to_o his_o judgement_n or_o at_o least_o to_o his_o too_o fearful_a or_o scrupulous_a express_v and_o tie_v of_o himself_o in_o mere_a word_n to_o some_o other_o late_a schoolman_n especial_o where_o he_o rather_o follow_v their_o opinion_n or_o their_o expression_n who_o deny_v jurisdiction_n to_o king_n ex_fw-la jure_fw-la regio_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr jure_fw-la divino_fw-la &_o naturali_fw-la over_o the_o person_n and_o in_o the_o cause_n of_o ecclesiastic_n and_o only_o attribute_v to_o they_o nudam_fw-la potestatem_fw-la civilem_fw-la &_o temporalem_fw-la etc._n etc._n over_o such_o person_n and_o in_o such_o cause_n than_o they_o who_o on_o the_o contrary_a attribute_n to_o king_n the_o thing_n and_o word_n jurisdiction_n over_o the_o same_o person_n and_o thing_n and_o this_o too_o per_fw-la se_fw-la and_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o nature_n hic_fw-la articulus_fw-la say_v he_o mean_v the_o foresay_a xxxvii_o article_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n of_o england_n subministrat_fw-la materiam_fw-la examinandi_fw-la quaestionem_fw-la long_o gravissimam_fw-la a_o scil_n laici_fw-la sint_fw-la capaces_fw-la jurisdictionis_fw-la spiritualis_fw-la primo_fw-la advertendum_fw-la ex_fw-la omnium_fw-la sententia_fw-la illos_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la capaces_fw-la clavium_fw-la quia_fw-la tunc_fw-la etiam_fw-la remissionis_fw-la seu_fw-la absolutionis_fw-la a_o peccatis_fw-la secundo_fw-la advertendum_fw-la jurisdictionem_fw-la spiritualem_fw-la seu_fw-la potestatem_fw-la jurisdictionis_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la immediate_a ipsam_fw-la potestatem_fw-la clavium_fw-la immo_fw-la separabiles_fw-la nec_fw-la actu_fw-la semper_fw-la conjungi_fw-la vel_fw-la jure_fw-la divino_fw-la vel_fw-la positivo_fw-la tertio_fw-la supponendum_fw-la summum_fw-la pontificem_fw-la in_o omni_fw-la sententia_fw-la secundum_fw-la absolutam_fw-la potentiam_fw-la svam_fw-la posse_fw-la jurisdictionem_fw-la talem_fw-la laicis_fw-la concedere_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la express_v contra_fw-la jus_o divinum_fw-la ut_fw-la recte_fw-la soto_n 4._o do_v 20._o quaest_n 1._o art_n 4._o etc._n scot._n 4._o d._n 20_o q_o 1._o a._n 4._o mirand_n in_o manual_n q._n 3._o a._n 2._o d._n alvin_n c._n 3._o etc._n etc._n sic_fw-la etiam_fw-la miranda_n in_fw-la manuali_fw-la quaest_n 3._o art_n 2._o &_o hoc_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la respectu_fw-la virorum_fw-la sed_fw-la foeminarum_fw-la addit_fw-la tamen_fw-la miranda_n hoc_fw-la respectu_fw-la foeminarum_fw-la nusquam_fw-la adhuc_fw-la concessum_fw-la quod_fw-la tamen_fw-la negate_fw-la d._n alvin_n c._n 3._o de_fw-la episcopis_fw-la abbatibus_fw-la &_o abbatissis_fw-la c._n 22._o &_o citat_fw-la multa_fw-la jura_fw-la ex_fw-la quibus_fw-la actu_fw-la conceditur_fw-la abbatissis_fw-la potestas_fw-la jurisdictionis_fw-la non_fw-la quidem_fw-la excommunicandi_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la sed_fw-la praecipiendi_fw-la suis_fw-la subditis_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la ut_fw-la excommunicent_fw-la rebel_n &_o contumace_n moniale_n &_o hoc_fw-la valere_fw-la vel_fw-la ex_fw-la jure_fw-la communi_fw-la vel_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la vel_fw-la saltem_fw-la ex_fw-la privilegio_fw-la vel_fw-la strictius_fw-la loquendo_fw-la dicendum_fw-la cum_fw-la laimanno_n lib._n 1._o 4._o laiman_n l._n 1._o tract_n 5._o p._n 1._o c._n 3._o n._n 3._o &_o 4._o tract_n 5._o p._n 1._o cap._n 3._o num_fw-la 3._o &_o 4._o quod_fw-la non_fw-la habent_fw-la jurisdictionem_fw-la spiritualem_fw-la proprie_fw-la sed_fw-la usuram_fw-la quandam_fw-la jurisdictionis_fw-la et_fw-la hinc_fw-la confer_v possunt_fw-la beneficia_fw-la &_o instituere_fw-la clericos_fw-la in_o ecclesiis_fw-la ad_fw-la monasterium_fw-la suum_fw-la pertinentibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la sensum_fw-la meum_fw-la in_o re_fw-la tam_fw-la gravi_fw-la aperiam_fw-la dicendum_fw-la putem_fw-la nullo_n quidem_fw-la jure_fw-la ut_fw-la praetactum_fw-la est_fw-la eye_v competere_fw-la potestatem_fw-la seu_fw-la jus_o spiritual_fw-la ut_fw-la loquor_fw-la joannes_n de_fw-la parisiis_fw-la de_fw-fr potestate_fw-la papae_fw-la c._n 21._o quo_fw-la gratia_fw-la spiritualis_fw-la causatur_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la papae_fw-la joan._n de_fw-fr paris_n c._n 21._o de_fw-la potest_fw-la papae_fw-la potestas_fw-la administrandi_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la et_fw-la idem_fw-la est_fw-la judicium_fw-la de_fw-fr potestate_fw-la quae_fw-la consequitur_fw-la ex_fw-la priori_fw-la ut_fw-la est_fw-la inflictio_fw-la poenae_fw-la spiritualis_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la expositio_fw-la ministrorum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la institutio_fw-la confirmatio_fw-la vel_fw-la examen_fw-la &_o alia_fw-la id_fw-la genus_fw-la multa_fw-la quodvis_fw-la enim_fw-la horum_fw-la de_fw-la jure_fw-la divino_fw-la restringitur_fw-la praecise_a ad_fw-la homines_fw-la spirituales_fw-la sen_fw-la deo_fw-la sacros_fw-la ut_fw-la olim_fw-la definitum_fw-la est_fw-la a_o joan._n 22._o contra_fw-la marsilium_fw-la de_fw-la milan_n ut_fw-la videre_fw-la est_fw-la apud_fw-la turrecrem_fw-la l._n 4._o summae_fw-la sub_fw-la finem_fw-la summae_fw-la joan._n 22._o contra_fw-la mars_n de_fw-fr milan_n turrecr_n l._n 4._o summae_fw-la caeterum_fw-la quoad_fw-la potestatem_fw-la seu_fw-la jus_o antecedens_fw-la non_fw-la de_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la &_o necessario_fw-la annexum_fw-la spiritualibus_fw-la officiis_fw-la bene_fw-la potest_fw-la in_o laicis_fw-la subinde_fw-la residere_fw-la sicut_fw-la praesentatio_fw-la collatio_fw-la beneficiorum_fw-la punitio_fw-la temporalis_fw-la clericorum_fw-la &_o alia_fw-la id_fw-la genus_fw-la multa_fw-la ut_fw-la dixi_fw-la de_fw-la abbatissis_fw-la praecipue_fw-la ex_fw-la concessione_n ecclesia_fw-la vel_fw-la long_fw-mi consuetudine_fw-la praescripta_fw-la convenientibus_fw-la praelatis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dixi_fw-la &_o merito_fw-la etiam_fw-la ex_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la concessio_fw-la 120._o innoc._n in_o c._n novit_fw-la etc._n etc._n salgado_n p._n 1._o c._n prael_n 3._o nu_fw-la 120._o sed_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la ipsa_fw-la tribuit_fw-la jurisdictionem_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o spiritualibus_fw-la ut_fw-la docet_fw-la innocent_n in_o cap._n novit_n de_fw-fr judic_n &_o multi_fw-la praesertion_n quando_fw-la consuetudinis_fw-la exercitium_fw-la a_o tempore_fw-la immemoriali_fw-la probatur_fw-la ut_fw-la declarant_fw-la juristae_fw-la de_fw-fr quare_fw-la vide_fw-la salgado_n p._n 1._o c._n 1._o praelud_fw-la 3._o n._n 122_o &_o deinceps_fw-la dice_n hic_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la concedi_fw-la principibus_fw-la nostris_fw-la potestatem_fw-la ex_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la seu_fw-la concessione_n sed_fw-la supremam_fw-la ut_fw-la ibi_fw-la asseritur_fw-la quod_fw-la noâ—_n potest_fw-la eye_v competere_fw-la in_o spiritualibus_fw-la ut_fw-la omnes_fw-la doctores_fw-la tenent_fw-la respondeo_fw-la quod_fw-la doctores_fw-la praedicti_fw-la asserant_fw-la papaâ—_n non_fw-la posse_fw-la auferre_fw-la jurisdictionem_fw-la principum_fw-la ex_fw-la consuâ—tudine_fw-la vel_fw-la concessione_n firma_fw-la valide_fw-la &_o licite_fw-la introductam_fw-la 405._o nau._n c._n 27._o in_o enchir._n n_o 70._o salz_n sch_fw-mi ber._n diaz_n cap._n 55._o sect._n apud_fw-la gall._n duvall_n de_fw-fr disc_fw-fr eccl._n p._n 3_o fol._n 405._o sicut_fw-la satis_fw-la insinuat_fw-la navar._n c._n 27._o in_o
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