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A55825 The validity of the orders of the Church of England made out against the objections of the papists, in several letters to a gentleman of Norwich that desired satisfaction therein / by Humphrey Prideaux ... Prideaux, Humphrey, 1648-1724. 1688 (1688) Wing P3419; ESTC R33955 139,879 134

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that_o this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o be_v thus_o administer_v in_o the_o ordination_n of_o a_o presbyter_n with_o silence_n and_o without_o any_o form_n of_o word_n at_o all_o speak_v at_o the_o do_v of_o it_o be_v the_o true_a and_o ancient_a imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o they_o have_v receive_v down_o by_o tradition_n from_o the_o former_a age_n of_o the_o church_n and_o by_o which_o alone_a the_o order_n be_v confer_v and_o not_o the_o other_o imposition_n of_o hand_n after_o administer_v i_o have_v these_o argument_n to_o make_v it_o most_o manifest_a unto_o you_o first_o because_o this_o late_a imposition_n of_o hand_n with_o the_o form_n of_o word_n with_o which_o it_o be_v administer_v be_v both_o of_o they_o but_o late_o introduce_v into_o their_o church_n they_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o none_o of_o their_o ordinal_n till_o about_o four_o hundred_o year_n since_o or_o do_v any_o of_o their_o ritualist_n which_o be_v of_o ancient_a date_n make_v the_o least_o 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