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A54154 The invalidity of John Faldo's vindication of his book, called Quakerism no Christianity being a rejoynder in defence of the answer, intituled, Quakerism a new nick-name for old Christianity : wherein many weighty Gospel-truths are handled, and the disingenuous carriage of by W.P. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1305; ESTC R24454 254,441 450

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pag._n 15._o pag._n 30._o pag._n 16._o act._n 12._o 24._o pietr._n soan_n polan_n p._n 152_o p._n 36_o 37._o erasm_n on_o 2_o pet._n 1._o 19_o ibid_fw-la in_o 1_o cor._n cap._n 2._o polano_n hist_o coun._n tr._n p._n 150._o crad_n divine_a drop_n p._n 171_o 172_o 210_o 215_o 221_o 217._o this_o give_v the_o lie_n to_o j._n faldo_n wil._n dell._n confut_o of_o simp_n pag._n 114_o 115_o 116_o 117._o tom._n 3._o fol._n 169._o mart._n vol._n 3._o p._n 572_o 573._o 3_o vol._n of_o the_o book_n of_o martyr_n p._n 298._o pag._n 17._o my_o answ_n pag._n 36._o col._n 2._o 2._o hebr._n 6._o 11._o chap._n 10._o 22._o ●_o book_n martyr_n p._n 577._o this_o j._n faldo_n kick_v at_o he_o be_v one_o with_o the_o papist_n 3_o book_n of_o martyr_n p._n 475._o p._n 18_o 19_o pag._n 19_o pag._n 19_o 20._o pag_n 39_o a_o ellegant_n way_n of_o speak_v and_o scriptural_a pag._n 40._o pag._n 21._o answ_n p._n 42._o ephes_n ●_o 13._o pag._n 22_o which_o concern_v he_o if_o he_o will_v have_v what_o he_o write_v to_o be_v according_a to_o scripture_n pag._n 22._o my_o answ_n pag._n 42._o quak._n no_o chr._n p._n 59_o pag._n 23._o pag._n 24._o pag._n 63._o p._n 25_o 26._o ibid._n p._n 26._o act_n 8._o 30_o 31._o dell_n trial_n of_o spirit_n p._n 10._o collier_n gen._n epist_n pag._n 249._o c._n 10._o pag._n 258._o c._n 12._o those_o famous_a poor_a suffer_v christian_n the_o waldenses_n in_o their_o pure_a time_n beside_o many_o other_o weithty_a point_n wherein_o they_o symbolise_v with_o we_o in_o this_o very_a matter_n be_v not_o foreign_a who_o in_o a_o confession_n about_o five_o hundred_o and_o fifty_o year_n old_a ●aid_v this_o down_o as_o a_o piece_n of_o their_o creed_n that_o the_o discovery_n &_o testimony_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n in_o they_o be_v the_o most_o convince_v evidence_n and_o infallible_a proof_n of_o the_o divine_a authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n consequent_o the_o spirit_n must_v have_v be_v their_o judge_n and_o rule_n concern_v their_o understanding_n the_o truth_n testify_v by_o they_o as_o ●_o p._n porrin_n their_o historian_n in_o so_o many_o word_n assure_v we_o concern_v they_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o notable_a history_n of_o their_o rise_n doctrine_n suffering_n and_o progress_n pag._n 23_o 24_o 25_o 26_o 27._o council_n tom._n 1._o p._n 481._o can_n 60._o anno_fw-la 364._o and_o p._n 549._o can_n 27._o anno_fw-la 417._o after_o christ_n christ_n i_o find_v john_n faldo_n often_o scorn_v inspiration_n and_o bring_v it_o into_o odium_fw-la under_o the_o word_n enthusiasm_n use_v of_o late_a to_o signify_v whimsical_a pate_n or_o head_n trouble_v with_o a_o religious_a kind_n of_o frenzy_n as_o if_o he_o have_v abandon_v the_o plea_n enjoyment_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o best_a separatist_n who_o name_n he_o empty_o honour_n and_o resolve_v to_o set_v up_o for_o a_o coffe-house_n droll_fw-fr or_o a_o play-prophanist_a to_o cool_v his_o courage_n and_o stop_v his_o career_n i_o commend_v two_o or_o three_o late_a 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lord_n supper_n be_v the_o pope_n invention_n this_o i_o utter_o deny_v to_o have_v be_v deliver_v by_o vv._n smith_n and_o do_v require_v he_o in_o the_o view_n of_o the_o world_n to_o produce_v any_o such_o word_n out_o of_o the_o book_n of_o w._n smith_n or_o any_o other_o of_o our_o friend_n his_o reply_n be_v this_o reply_v p._n 70._o what_o w._n p_o insnuate_v i_o charge_v they_o with_o viz._n call_v the_o bread_n and_o wine_n christ_n bless_v the_o invention_n of_o the_o pope_n i_o be_o as_o little_a concern_v to_o make_v proof_n of_o as_o he_o be_v honest_a to_o make_v report_n of_o for_o my_o book_n lay_v no_o such_o thing_n to_o their_o charge_n rejoynder_n what_o a_o silly_a evasion_n be_v this_o do_v he_o not_o charge_v we_o with_o call_v the_o bread_n &_o wine_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n the_o pope_n invention_n and_o do_v he_o now_o tax_v my_o honesty_n in_o say_v that_o he_o make_v we_o to_o call_v he_o bread_n and_o wine_n christ_n bless_v the_o invention_n of_o the_o 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profession_n nor_o common_a reputation_n power_n enough_o to_o influence_n thou_o into_o more_o justice_n towards_o thy_o adversary_n what_o man_n of_o sense_n can_v think_v i_o mean_v only_o that_o very_o same_o bread_n and_o wine_n which_o christ_n and_o his_o disciple_n eat_v and_o drink_v together_o there_o be_v no_o foundation_n for_o this_o ill_a comment_n and_o i_o dare_v appeal_n to_o my_o reader_n conscience_n in_o this_o matter_n and_o so_o mean_o have_v thou_o manage_v this_o matter_n that_o thy_o very_a next_o word_n show_v the_o slightness_n of_o thy_o reply_n reply_v p._n 70._o whereas_o my_o charge_n be_v of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n use_v in_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n after_o his_o death_n among_o god_n people_n and_o his_o church_n rejoynder_n what_o difference_n be_v there_o in_o point_n of_o time_n between_o
nay_o the_o evangelist_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v so_o much_o as_o to_o mention_v any_o thing_n of_o his_o manifestation_n in_o flesh_n and_o if_o we_o will_v believe_v j._n faldo_n the_o verse_n concern_v the_o word_n creator_n and_o not_o redeemer_n which_o he_o stint_v to_o his_o come_v in_o the_o flesh_n see_v pag._n 89._o but_o by_o his_o interpretation_n that_o be_v not_o relative_a to_o his_o appearance_n in_o the_o flesh_n but_o to_o the_o word_n which_o be_v with_o god_n and_o be_v god_n as_o p._n 84._o and_o so_o the_o spanish_a translation_n have_v it_o that_o word_n be_v the_o true_a light_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o either_o the_o word_n be_v not_o before_o that_o appearance_n or_o if_o it_o be_v be_v that_o true_a light_n that_o true_a light_n be_v before_o that_o appearance_n therefore_o mankind_n may_v very_o well_o be_v say_v to_o have_v always_o be_v enlighten_v by_o that_o light_n or_o that_o the_o word_n shall_v be_v before_o that_o appearance_n and_o that_o true_a 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the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o we_o affirm_v christ_n to_o be_v that_o light_n by_o his_o visible_a and_o bodily_a appearance_n life_n doctrine_n miracle_n death_n resurrection_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o day_n which_o he_o be_v in_o that_o but_o whether_o these_o word_n that_o be_v the_o true_a light_n do_v not_o relate_v to_o the_o life_n of_o the_o word_n which_o be_v with_o god_n and_o be_v god_n and_o consequent_o if_o he_o do_v not_o enlighten_v man_n before_o he_o take_v flesh_n in_o the_o flesh_n and_o after_o his_o resurrection_n and_o ascension_n by_o his_o eternal_a power_n and_o godhead_n as_o the_o great_a sun_n of_o righteousness_n and_o spiritual_a luminary_n of_o the_o invisible_a and_o intelligible_a world_n unto_o which_o his_o word_n bear_v no_o relation_n unless_o it_o be_v any_o to_o deny_v the_o question_n in_o short_a i_o tell_v he_o the_o very_a next_o word_n to_o those_o he_o cite_v that_o shall_v we_o grant_v the_o evangelist_n to_o refer_v to_o that_o 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his_o paragraph_n i_o will_v contract_v my_o answer_n and_o give_v his_o reply_n he_o make_v the_o word_n to_o be_v the_o write_a law_n statute_n and_o commandment_n give_v by_o moses_n his_o first_o book_n p._n 94._o i_o answer_v it_o can_v not_o be_v so_o understand_v for_o the_o question_n be_v not_o about_o they_o but_o about_o the_o commandment_n of_o commandment_n and_o word_n of_o word_n which_o he_o resolve_v thus_o let_v none_o say_v who_o shall_v ascend_v descend_v or_o go_v beyond_o the_o sea_n to_o fetch_v the_o great_a word_n and_o conmandment_n but_o the_o word_n be_v very_o nigh_o thou_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v the_o innermost_a part_n of_o man_n whereinto_o the_o outward_a commandment_n can_v never_o come_v beside_o without_o the_o word_n nigh_o in_o the_o heart_n there_o can_v be_v no_o conviction_n upon_o the_o conscience_n etc._n etc._n reply_v p._n 82_o 83._o w._n p._n pu●s_v to_o fetch_v the_o great_a word_n and_o commandment_n in_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o text_n as_o the_o very_a word_n of_o moses_n a_o crime_n to_o be_v abhor_v yet_o frequent_a with_o he_o that_o pretend_v a_o sacred_a esteem_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o few_o word_n to_o answer_v all_o moses_n say_v of_o this_o word_n verse_n 12._o it_o be_v not_o in_o heaven_n which_o may_v be_v say_v of_o the_o book_n of_o the_o law_n or_o write_v word_n but_o not_o of_o christ_n the_o word_n also_o as_o i_o cool_v he_o before_o it_o be_v such_o a_o word_n as_o use_n to_o be_v in_o the_o mouth_n which_o be_v the_o organ_n and_o instrument_n of_o speak_v the_o greek_a word_n for_o the_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v never_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o christ_n not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v sometime_o intend_a of_o christ_n the_o word_n rejoynder_n this_o look_v more_o like_o a_o reply_n then_o any_o thing_n we_o have_v have_v a_o great_a while_n yet_o that_o it_o only_o look_v so_o will_v lie_v 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