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jesus_n christ_n may_v be_v give_v to_o they_o that_o believe_v who_o be_v it_o that_o accuse_v who_o be_v it_o that_o condemn_v but_o this_o judge_n io._n v._o fourteen_o the_o law_n the_o word_n be_v the_o judge_n absolute_a and_o infallible_a a_o ministerial_a duty_n only_o be_v commit_v to_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n io._n xii_o xlviii_o neither_o be_v papist_n able_a to_o cast_n of_o this_o bless_a samuel_n from_o judge_v israel_n and_o to_o erect_v up_o their_o own_o saul_n but_o by_o blaspheme_v the_o word_n of_o truth_n charge_v it_o with_o imperfection_n obscurity_n and_o what_o not_o that_o may_v deprive_v it_o of_o its_o power_n so_o that_o there_o be_v nothing_o but_o the_o wrangle_n of_o heretic_n to_o plead_v for_o the_o papal_a headship_n and_o this_o be_v as_o vain_a as_o the_o rest_n for_o unless_o he_o may_v irresisteable_o enlighten_v not_o only_o the_o understanding_n but_o also_o the_o will_n he_o can_v never_o compound_v and_o silence_n controversy_n in_o regard_n his_o word_n let_v they_o make_v they_o divine_a or_o otherwise_o be_v as_o subject_a to_o misinterpretation_n as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o may_v with_o more_o facility_n be_v pervert_v but_o if_o we_o do_v but_o observe_v we_o may_v perceive_v how_o they_o cast_v off_o the_o absolute_a direction_n of_o truth_n be_v involve_v in_o error_n and_o blindness_n for_o by_o make_v their_o church_n the_o only_a teacher_n &_o determiner_n of_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n they_o tie_v themselves_o to_o receive_v no_o other_o light_n from_o the_o scripture_n than_o lucifer_n their_o pope_n for_o he_o be_v their_o church_n will_v convey_v unto_o they_o and_o howsoever_o they_o boast_v of_o the_o father_n of_o counsel_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o when_o all_o come_v to_o all_o their_o judge_n of_o controversy_n be_v only_o their_o roman_a bishop_n declarantem_fw-la bishop_n grâ—gor_n valent_n tom_fw-mi 3._o commentar_n in_o thomam_fw-la disp_n 1._o quaest_n 1._o punct_a 1._o cùm_fw-la dicimus_fw-la propositionem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la esse_fw-la conditionem_fw-la necessariam_fw-la ad_fw-la assensum_fw-la fidei_fw-la â—_o nomine_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la intelligimus_fw-la ejus_fw-la caput_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la romanum_fw-la pontificem_fw-la pierce_v vel_fw-la unâ_fw-la cum_fw-la concilio_n ex_fw-la praedicta_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la propositiones_fw-la fidei_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la declarantem_fw-la either_o with_o or_o without_o a_o council_n est_fw-la council_n ibid._n punct_a 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la quando_fw-la oriantur_fw-la controversiae_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la in_o ijs_fw-la definiendis_fw-la à _fw-la veritaâ—â—_n aberrare_fw-la haec_fw-la autem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la infallibilis_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la ad_fw-la definiendum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la in_o singulis_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la quip_n qui_fw-la sine_fw-la controversiâ_fw-la possunt_fw-la errare_fw-la singuli_fw-la neque_fw-la est_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la omninò_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la frustra_fw-la enim_fw-la data_fw-la illis_fw-la esset_fw-la cùm_fw-la â—ieri_fw-la vix_fw-la possit_fw-la in_fw-la fidei_fw-la causis_fw-la ut_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la illis_fw-la sigillatim_fw-la sententia_fw-la dicatur_fw-la sed_fw-la residet_fw-la summa_fw-la illa_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la in_o christi_fw-la vicario_n sâ—â—â—â—o_fw-la pontifice_fw-la sive_fw-la unâ_fw-la cum_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concilio_n sive_fw-la absque_fw-la concilio_n res_fw-la fidei_fw-la definite_a velit_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n l._n 4._o c._n 3._o summus_n pontifex_fw-la cùm_fw-la to_o tam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la docet_fw-la in_o his_o quae_fw-la ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la pertinent_a nullo_n easu_fw-la errare_fw-la potest_fw-la constat_fw-la generalia_fw-la concilia_fw-la saepè_fw-la errasse_fw-la quando_fw-la caruâ—â—unt_fw-la summi_fw-la pontificis_fw-la suffragio_fw-la exit_fw-la quo_fw-la apparet_fw-la totam_fw-la firmitatem_fw-la concilioâ—um_fw-la legitimorum_fw-la esse_fw-la â_fw-la pontifice_fw-la non_fw-la partim_fw-la à _fw-la pontifice_fw-la partim_fw-la à _fw-la concilio_n staplâ—ton_n relect_v prinâ—_n doctr_n contr_n 6._o quaest_n 3._o in_o explicatar_n 5._o potestas_fw-la &_o infallibilitâ—s_fw-la papalis_fw-la est_fw-la potestas_fw-la &_o gratia_fw-la personalis_fw-la personae_fw-la petri_n &_o successorum_fw-la ejus_fw-la à _fw-la christo_fw-la data_fw-la majoritas_fw-la discretionis_fw-la &_o maturitas_fw-la judicij_fw-la si_fw-la de_fw-la scientia_fw-la rerum_fw-la sacrarum_fw-la intelligatur_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la concilium_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o theologoâ—â—m_fw-la collegium_fw-la imò_fw-la unus_fw-la aliquis_fw-la theologus_fw-la pontificem_fw-la facilè_fw-la superabit_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la de_fw-la judicio_fw-la fidei_fw-la &_o determinationâ—_n sensus_fw-la scripturae_fw-la quem_fw-la credere_fw-la oporteat_fw-la intelligatur_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la concilium_fw-la supra_fw-la papam_fw-la sed_fw-la unus_fw-la papa_n petri_n successor_n cvi_fw-la uni_fw-la christus_fw-la indeâ—ectibâ—hâ—atem_fw-la fidei_fw-la impetravit_fw-la super_fw-la omnes_fw-la est_fw-la it_o matter_n not_o so_o likewise_o they_o be_v delude_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o error_n in_o give_v the_o power_n they_o do_v to_o this_o external_a judge_n for_o our_o jesuite_n will_v have_v the_o judge_n to_o be_v the_o rule_n whereby_o to_o discover_v which_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o which_o not_o the_o manner_n how_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o before_o whatsoever_o he_o say_v be_v faith_n must_v needs_o be_v so_o let_v it_o be_v with_o a_o council_n or_o without_o other_o make_v the_o pope_n authority_n equal_a to_o the_o scripture_n interpretando_fw-la scripture_n christophorus_n de_fw-fr sacrobosâ—o_n defence_n decr._n triden_n part_v â—_o c._n 6._o dico_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n authoritatem_fw-la parem_fw-la esse_fw-la authoritad_v scripturae_fw-la &_o ratio_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la unuâ—_n &_o idem_fw-la deus_fw-la qui_fw-la regebat_fw-la apostolos_fw-la &_o prophetas_fw-la ne_fw-la eâ—â—arent_fw-la scribendo_fw-la diright_a ecclesiam_fw-la ne_fw-la labatur_fw-la in_o interpretando_fw-la to_o the_o uâ—yce_n of_o god._n neither_o will_v they_o have_v their_o pope_n or_o church_n only_o equal_a to_o the_o scripture_n but_o also_o somewhat_o superior_a thereunto_o scripturaâ—um_fw-la thereunto_o albert._n pighius_fw-la l._n 1._o hierat_fw-la eccles_n c._n 2._o dicit_fw-la non_fw-la soâ—â—â—_n non_fw-la inferâ—orem_fw-la non_fw-la solâ—m_fw-la parem_fw-la imo_fw-la quodammodò_fw-la â—â—periorem_fw-la &_o â—â—otiorem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la autoritatem_fw-la autoritaâ—â—_n scripturaâ—um_fw-la for_o the_o church_n be_v a_o prophet_n est_fw-la prophet_n defensor_fw-la johannis_n pistorâ—â—_n