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A68136 A letter vvritten by a true Christian Catholike, to a Romaine pretended Catholike Wherein vppon occasion of controuersie touching the Catholike Church the 12. 13. and 14. Chap. of the Reuelations are breifly and trulie expounded. Which conteine the true estate thereof, from the birth of Christ, to the end of the world. Herbert, William, Sir, 1553?-1593. 1586 (1586) STC 12752.5; ESTC S112797 52,029 90

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nō negabit Therefore it is not of vs that we doe vnderstande but of him which maketh vs to comprehende those thinges which would not be knowen Therefore of him knowledge is to be hoped which will open to them which knocke will shewe to them that seeke and will not denie to them that craue Hereof Saint Bernarde writeth right well Quo spiritu scripturae factae sunt eo spiritu legi desiderant ipsae etiam intelligendae sunt Nunquam ingredieris in sensum Pauli donec vsu bonae intentionis in lectione eius studio assiduae meditationis spiritum eius imbiberis sicque de reliquis By the same spirite whereby the scriptures are reuealed do they require also to be reade by the same also they are to bee vnderstoode Thou shalt neuer enter into the vnderstanding of Paule vntill with a good intent thou mayest sucke out his spirit by continuall reading and daily meditation and so of the rest And we may well say that both the roote and frute of prayer and meditation in the worde of God is the spirite of God which openeth our vnderstanding and leadeth vs vnto all truth For from Gods grace these godly exercises doe proceede and by the continuall vse of them his grace is increased augmented in vs to the outwarde hearing of the word of God and meditation thereof the inward working and operation of the holie Ghost being ioyned and vnited which is both promised and performed to all the faithfull euen to all the children of God We reade in the 59. of Esay Spiritus meus qui in te est verba quae posui in ore tuo seminis tui in perpetuum non deficient My spirite which is in thee and my words which I haue put in thy mouth and of thy seede shal not depart for euer Christ saith in the 14. of Iohn Spiritus sanctus docebit vos omnia suggeret vobis omnia quae dixi vobis The holie Ghost shall teach you all thinges and minister all things which I haue spoken vnto you S. Iohn saith Vnctionem habetis a sancto nostis omnia vnctio docet vos de omnibus You haue your annoynting of the holy and knowe all thinges the annoynting teacheth you all thinges Saint Paul saith Animalis homo non percipit ea quae sunt spiritus Dei at spiritualis diiudicat omnia Spiritus enim omnia scrutatur etiam profunditates Dei The carnall man perceaueth not the thinges which are of the spirit of God but the spirituall discerneth all thinges euen the depth of God To conclude we learne of S. Paul that faith commeth of hearing and hearing of the worde of God for the study and obseruation thereof hath the working of the holy ghost ioyned therewith which produceth faith which is not of our selues but is the gift of God as the same Apostle teacheth vs in the 2. Chapter of his Epistle to the Ephesians so that by the outwarde hearing of the worde and the inwarde operation of the holie ghost faith is in vs kindled Christ thereby apprehended his iustice and righteousnesse to vs deriued God reconciled our sinnes pardoned his mercie obteined we in Christ Iesus adopted to be the children of God and inheritors of euerlasting saluation Therfore the Diuell our mortall enemie that euermore laboureth our confusion by his chiefe instrument Antichrist his adherents and by his owne false and slie suggestions woorketh all he may to stay men from reading and hearing the worde of God and from comming to those places where it is read and taught that is from publike seruice and sermons whereby such as are skilfull in the tongues and haue trauelled in the study of the scripture the circumstances of places are laide open the sence made manifest the proportion of the doctrine taught and declared conference collation of places vsed and applied the vse fruite thereof signified the breade of life deuided and destributed for the nourishment of our soules our faith thereby kyndled and confirmed lastly the holy Ghost therewith powred and bestowed vpon vs for our further comfort and enstruction Thus haue I briefly answered your two propositions whereby you may somewhat be induced to the consideration of your estate of the corruption of the church that you follow of the weakenes of the grounds that you stand vpon of the daunger that thereby you are in and of the meanes whereby you may escape it And that I may yet more amplie satisfie you in the question of the Church the mistaking whereof is the roote of your error I haue herewith sent you a historie of the Church of Christ from the natiuity of our Sauiour to the end of the world laid downe by the holy Ghost by the pen of S. Iohn in the twelfth thirtenth fourtenth of the Reuelation where unto I haue added such light of interpretation as my small talent hath enabled me vnto wherein I fore see I shalbe assayled by the maleuolent with two bitter obiections the one of curiosity the other of presumption it shall suffice me to shield my selfe against both with that notable sentence and censure of Iesus the sonne of Sirach in the 39. of Ecclesiasticus 1 He onely that applieth his mind to the Law of the most high and is occupied in the meditation thereof seeketh out the wisedome of all the auncient and exerciseth himselfe in the prophesies 2 He keepeth the sayings of famous men and entreth in also to the secrets of darke sentences 3 He seeketh out the misterie of graue sentences and exerciseth himselfe in darke parables 4 He shall serue among great men and appeare before the Prince he shal trauell through straunge countries for he hath tried the good and the euil among men 5 He will giue his hart to resort early vnto the Lorde that made him and to pray before the most high and will open his mouth in prayer and pray for his sinnes 6 VVhen the great Lord wil he shal be filled with the spirit of vnderstanding that he may powre out wise sentences and giue thankes vnto the Lord in his prayer 7 He shall direct his counsell and knowledge so shall he meditate in his secrets 8 He shall shew forth his science and learning and reioice in the Law and couenant of the Lord. 9 Many shall commend his vnderstanding and his memorie shall neuer be put out nor depart awaie but his name shall continue from generation to generation 10 The congregation shall declare his wisedome and show it 11 Though he be dead he shall leaue a greater fame then a thousand if he liue still he shall get the same The exposition vpon the 12. 13. and 14. Chapters of the Reuel CHAP. 12. Verse 1. And there appeared a great wonder in heauen A woman clothed with the sunne and the Moone was vnder her feete and vpon her head a crowne of twelue starres 2. And she was with child and cried traueling in birth and was pained ready to be
cheefe instrument in persecuting the members of the church those that haue the testimony of Iesus And to that end aduanceth his power throne and authoritie in this wicked world 3 And I sawe one of his heades as it were wounded to death and his deadly wounde was healed and all the world wondred at the beast These heades seeme vnto me to haue three significations two of them are laide downe by the Angell in the seauentienth chapter where they are expounded to bee mountaynes or hilles as heretofore we haue taken them and also kings or gouernors as hereafter we shall shewe them But in this place it semeth to bee taken neither for the one nor for the other but for a chiefe and principal parte of the estat euen for Roome and Italy it selfe Which aswell by the ciuill warres of Caesar and Pompey Augustus and Anthony as by the loose and execrable gouernments of Claudius Tiberius Caius Caligula Claudius the brother of Germanicus Nero the sonne of Domitius and Aulus Vitellius was as it were wounded and that most greeuously Which in the time of Flauius Vespasianus Titus Nerua Traiane and the Emperours succeding it recouered whereby the deadlye wound was healed And all the world wondred at the beast Such was the might and maiestie the force and fortune of the Romaine Empire that all men wondred and maruailed at it had it in admiration regarde and reuerence as an estate most happye sacred and in a manner diuine 4 And they worshipped the Dragon which gaue power vnto the beast and they worshipped the beast saying VVho is like vnto the beaste VVho is able to make warre with him By reason of the false religions and Idolatries of the Romaine Empire the Dragon that is to saye the Deuill was worshipped And by reason of the might and puissance of the forsaid estate it was of al nations feared and honored insomuch as they thought that none other was like vnto it nor any able to make warre against it 5 And there was giuen vnto him a mouthe that spake great things and blasphemies and power was giuen vnto him to doe 42. moneths The pride and blasphemye of the Romaine Emperors wee haue somewhat declared before The time of their persecuting power heere expressed by two and forty months is the same that in the former chapter is resolued and a thousand two hundred threescore daies which gathered into sabbaoths of yeares after the account of Daniell contayneth the whole time of the primitiue persecution from the first of Herod to the last of Licinius the particularities of their pride and blasphemies as to be called Gods to haue their images placed in temples and to haue diuine rites ceremonies done there in their honor The histories of their times doe disclose the sundry persecutions in great crueltye by them and their authority executed against the professors of the truth the Ecclesiasticall histories doe mention at large Whereby the interpretation of this place and of the verses following is very cleare and manifest 6 And he opened his mouth vnto blasphemy against God to blaspheme his name and his tabernacle and them that dwell in heauen The blasphemous speeches and actions of the Romaine Empire being corrupted with all kinde of Idolatry and impietie was bent first against the name of God secondly against his tabernacle thirdly against them that dwell in heauen Against the name of God that is to say against the essence maiestye worde and wisedome of God Whereas in steade of the creator they honored creatures in steade of one true God they serued many false Idols and adored them in corporall rites and ceremonies in steade of him that was to be worshipped in spirit and truth against his tabernacle that is to say his church for of the church it is spoken beholde the tabernacle of God is with men and he will dwel with them and they shalle his people and God himself shalbe their God with them Against them that dwell in heauen that is to say against the members of the Church for that wee are no more forrenners and strangers but citizens wtih the Saintes and of the houshould of God And therefore may be well termed dwellers in heauen For that as the Apostle saieth in the Epistle to the Hebrewes In that we are members of the misticall bodie of Christ we are come to the mount Sion and to the Citie of the liuing God the caelestiall Hierusalem and to the companie of innumerable Angels and to the congregation of the first borne which are written in heauen And to God the iudge of all and to the Spirites of iust and perfect men and to Iesus the Mediatour of the new Testament to the bloud of sprinkling that speaketh better thinges then that of Abel Wherefore as in the former chapter the Dragon that is to saye the Diuell persecuted first the man childe that is Christ Iesus Then the woman clothed with the Sunne which is the Church And lastlie the remnant of her seede which keepe the commaundementes of God and haue the testimonie of Iesus that is to saye the members of the church So this principall instrument of the Deuill the Romaine Idolatrous Empire blasphemeth gainsayeth and persecuteth first the name of God that is his worde and wisedome Christ Iesus Secondlie his tabernacle that is his church Thirdly those that dwell in heauen that is to say the faithfull that are the members and seede of the church 7 And it was giuē vnto him to make war with the saints and to ouercome them and power was giuen him ouer euerie kindred and tongue and nation They that before were tearmed dwellers in heauen are heere tearmed sainctes against whome this Romaine Empire hath made warre raysed persecution and preuailed in all cruell tormentes and rigorous kindes of death that not in one contrie or prouince alone but throughout all the worlde for the authoritie therof and power did reach in effect ouer euery kindred and tongue and nation 8 Therefore all that dwell vppon the earth shall woorshippe him whose names are not written in the booke of life of the lambe which was slaine from the beginning of the worlde Such therefore as are not the elect of God whose eyes are not illumined with his heauenly light and whose mindes are not sanctified with his holy spirit whereby they may discerne trueth from falsehoode but are whollie led with earthly conceites worldly considerations and terrestriall appetites and therin doe as it were dwel and inhabite vnwilling any way to be weaned from it They shall worshippe obey reuerence and followe in all Idolatrie and naughtinesse this Romaine Empire iudging it to bee the best way for their saftie benefit and aduauncement although in truth it worke their ruyne ouerthrowe and euerlasting destruction 9 If any man haue an eare let him heare if any leade into captiuitie he shall goe into captiuitie if any kill with a sworde he must be killed by a sworde Here is the patience and