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A26962 Naked popery, or, The naked falshood of a book called The Catholick naked truth, or, The Puritan convert to apostolical Christianity, written by W.H. opening their fundamental errour of unwritten tradition, and their unjust description of the Puritans, the prelatical Protestant, and the papist, and their differences, and better acquainting the ignorant of the same difference, especially what a Puritan and what a papist is / by Richard Baxter ... Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1677 (1677) Wing B1315; ESTC R13884 120,987 206

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custom_n by_o little_a and_o little_a and_o be_v not_o common_a long_o before_o the_o council_n at_o constance_n dare_v you_o say_v that_o it_o be_v so_o from_o the_o beginning_n or_o of_o old_a 3._o can_v you_o possible_o believe_v that_o your_o forbid_a man_n to_o read_v the_o scripture_n in_o a_o know_a tongue_n without_o a_o licence_n be_v not_o a_o novelty_n if_o ever_o you_o read_v chrysostom_n augustine_n jerome_n or_o any_o thing_n of_o the_o ancient_n 4._o be_v it_o not_o a_o novelty_n for_o the_o public_a prayer_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v ordinary_o make_v in_o a_o tongue_n not_o understand_v by_o the_o generality_n of_o the_o people_n but_o i_o must_v stop_v 2._o and_o as_o to_o universality_n i_o have_v before_o prove_v 1._o that_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n most_o of_o the_o church_n and_o bishop_n of_o the_o world_n have_v be_v against_o they_o 2._o that_o at_o this_o day_n they_o be_v not_o above_o the_o three_o part_n of_o christian_n too_o small_a a_o 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the_o papist_n if_o general_a council_n be_v not_o to_o be_v believe_v when_o they_o hereticate_a pope_n i_o will_v not_o believe_v a_o railer_n when_o he_o hereticate_v most_o of_o the_o christian_a world_n who_o he_o never_o see_v or_o speak_v with_o sure_a that_o man_n judge_v person_n unheard_a 2._o i_o repeat_v the_o word_n of_o barchardus_fw-la one_o of_o your_o own_o that_o long_o live_v among_o they_o and_o speak_v what_o he_o see_v p._n 325_o 326._o and_n be_v for_o those_o that_o we_o judge_v to_o be_v damn_v heretic_n as_o the_o nestorian_n jacobite_n maronites_n georgian_n and_o the_o like_a i_o find_v they_o to_o be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n good_a and_o simple_a man_n and_o live_v sincere_o towards_o god_n and_o man_n they_o be_v of_o great_a abstinence_n etc._n etc._n and_o p._n 324._o he_o say_v that_o the_o syrian_n greek_n armenian_n georgian_n nestorian_n nubians_n jubeans_n chaldean_n maronites_n ethiopian_n egyptian_n and_o many_o other_o nation_n of_o christian_n there_o inhabit_v and_o that_o some_o be_v schismatic_n not_o subject_a to_o the_o pope_n and_o other_o call_v heretic_n as_o the_o nestorian_n jacobite_n etc._n etc._n but_o there_o be_v many_o in_o these_o sect_n that_o be_v very_o simple_a know_v nothing_o of_o heresy_n devote_v to_o christ_n materate_v the_o flesh_n with_o fast_n and_o clothe_v with_o the_o most_o simple_a garment_n so_o that_o they_o far_o excel_v the_o very_a religious_a of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o p._n 323._o of_o the_o papist_n who_o he_o call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o christian_n as_o if_o it_o be_v proper_a to_o they_o he_o say_v there_o be_v in_o the_o land_n of_o promise_n man_n of_o every_o nation_n under_o heaven_n and_o every_o nation_n live_v after_o their_o own_o rite_n and_o to_o speak_v the_o very_a truth_n to_o our_o own_o great_a confusion_n there_o be_v none_o find_v in_o it_o that_o be_v worse_o and_o more_o corrupt_a in_o manner_n than_o christian_n that_o be_v papist_n 3._o if_o great_a error_n and_o vice_n than_o be_v among_o the_o armenian_n the_o abassine_n syrian_n etc._n etc._n will_v allow_v we_o to_o reject_v man_n from_o our_o communion_n how_o much_o more_o cause_n have_v we_o to_o renounce_v communion_n with_o pope_n and_o papist_n than_o with_o these_o church_n 4._o how_o can_v any_o man_n say_v that_o nation_n and_o country_n be_v to_o be_v reject_v as_o heretic_n unless_o the_o single_a person_n guilty_a be_v try_v and_o hear_v when_o there_o be_v no_o heresy_n but_o what_o be_v in_o individual_n and_o no_o law_n of_o god_n or_o reason_n condemn_v the_o innocent_a for_o the_o guiltless_a fault_n much_o less_o all_o posterity_n for_o their_o ancestor_n iii_o but_o they_o never_o gain_v more_o than_o by_o aggravate_v the_o division_n that_o be_v among_o other_o christian_n and_o boast_v of_o the_o unity_n of_o their_o church_n and_o the_o contention_n that_o have_v be_v among_o we_o have_v give_v they_o such_o advantage_n as_o that_o some_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o their_o former_a guilt_n have_v be_v sect-master_n themselves_o have_v turn_v papist_n as_o think_v it_o the_o state_n of_o union_n and_o have_v find_v no_o settlement_n in_o those_o way_n which_o they_o have_v try_v because_o they_o never_o right_o understand_v the_o true_a temperament_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n which_o they_o profess_v they_o think_v to_o find_v it_o in_o that_o way_n that_o they_o never_o try_v as_o sick_a man_n turn_v from_o side_n to_o side_n for_o ease_n while_o the_o cause_n of_o their_o weariness_n and_o pain_n be_v within_o they_o and_o turn_v with_o they_o here_o let_v the_o reader_n note_n 1._o that_o fool_n judge_v of_o difference_n in_o religion_n by_o the_o noise_n that_o it_o make_v in_o the_o world_n but_o man_n of_o reason_n judge_n of_o it_o by_o the_o greatness_n and_o number_n of_o the_o point_n of_o
name_n p._n 47._o what_o man_n many_o bishop_n and_o conformist_n have_v be_v and_o be_v in_o england_n p._n 48._o the_o religion_n which_o be_v uppermost_a right_a or_o wrong_n will_v be_v profess_v usual_o by_o the_o most_o and_o therefore_o by_o bad_a man_n p._n 49._o it_o be_v worse_a with_o the_o papist_n who_o be_v many_o very_a bad_a even_o where_o they_o differ_v from_o superior_n and_o suffer_v ibid._n his_o accusation_n of_o puritan_n and_o prelaticks_n protestant_n about_o impute_a righteousness_n and_o inherent_a confute_v a_o true_a description_n of_o the_o protestant_n judgement_n of_o justify_v righteousness_n p._n 51_o 52_o etc._n etc._n his_o derision_n of_o impute_v righteousness_n as_o a_o mummery_n p._n 54_o 55._o his_o gross_a slander_n that_o we_o be_v for_o mere_a impute_v holiness_n p._n 55._o the_o true_a middle_a way_n about_o indifferent_a ritual_n p._n 56._o i._o of_o his_o charge_n on_o prelatist_n for_o silence_v puritan_n for_o not_o observe_v fast_n etc._n etc._n which_o they_o neglect_v themselves_o p._n 57_o puritan_n and_o papist_n fast_v 2._o of_o wax_n taper_n on_o the_o altar_n p._n 58._o 3._o of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n p._n 58_o 59_o 4._o of_o the_o real_a presence_n p._n 60._o 5._o of_o confession_n and_o absolution_n p._n 61._o 6._o of_o bow_v at_o the_o name_n jesus_n and_o image_n p._n 62._o 7._o of_o the_o surplice_n girdle_n steal_v and_o casuble_a p._n 63._o 8._o of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a p._n 64._o 9_o of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o council_n p._n 65._o 1._o whether_o god_n wisdom_n require_v it_o 2._o civil_a and_o ecclesiastic_a monarchy_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n compare_v p._n 66_o 67._o 3._o be_v the_o pope_n universal_a apostle_n or_o teacher_n p._n 55._o 4._o whether_o the_o pope_n be_v head_n but_o in_o the_o vacancy_n of_o council_n p._n 66._o 5._o most_o of_o the_o christian_a world_n by_o far_o be_v no_o papist_n 68_o 6._o the_o pope_n dissent_v from_o general_a council_n and_o so_o far_o from_o the_o universal_a church_n we_o own_v they_o when_o he_o do_v not_o 69._o 7._o the_o difference_n between_o the_o king_n headship_n and_o the_o pope_n 37._o 8._o puritan_n be_v for_o the_o king_n supremacy_n 70._o 9_o how_o far_o they_o submit_v their_o judgement_n to_o the_o church_n p._n 70._o 10._o the_o church_n teach_v we_o the_o faith_n but_o may_v not_o judge_v in_o partem_fw-la utramlibet_fw-la viz._n that_o there_o be_v no_o god_n no_o christ_n no_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n p._n 71._o ii_o it_o be_v schismatical_a and_o worse_a to_o feign_v that_o various_a habit_n gesture_n meat_n etc._n etc._n make_v various_a religion_n q._n 1._o do_v variety_n of_o liturgy_n make_v various_a religion_n 2._o be_v not_o religion_n more_o concern_v in_o the_o papist_n doctrinal_a difference_n among_o themselves_o about_o predestination_n grace_n freewill_n the_o immaculate_a conception_n and_o hundred_o more_o in_o the_o school_n doctor_n and_o about_o the_o depose_n excommunicate_v and_o kill_v king_n and_o about_o all_o the_o controversy_n mention_v by_o the_o jansenist_n in_o the_o jesuit_n moral_n and_o by_o mr._n clarkson_n in_o the_o practical_a divinity_n of_o the_o papist_n than_o in_o variety_n of_o clothes_n form_n or_o ceremony_n and_o be_v it_o not_o as_o laudable_a for_o protestant_n to_o hold_v union_n and_o communion_n with_o they_o that_o use_v not_o the_o same_o word_n or_o rite_n as_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o tolerate_v without_o so_o much_o as_o any_o disow_a censure_n the_o foresay_a doctrinal_a difference_n about_o king_n kill_v when_o excommunicate_a murder_n adultery_n fornication_n perjury_n lie_v steal_v etc._n etc._n mention_v in_o the_o foresay_a book_n p._n 72._o chap._n iu._n h._n w_n ill_o form_v accusation_n which_o he_o can_v best_o answer_v p._n 77._o what_o grotius_n mean_v by_o papist_n p._n 79._o i._o of_o papist_n image-worship_n p._n 79._o ii_o of_o pope_n pardon_n p._n 80._o iii_o their_o pray_n to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n 83._o iu_o latin_a prayer_n 84._o v._o implicit_a belief_n in_o teacher_n 85._o vi_o prefer_v the_o church_n law_n to_o go_n 87._o vii_o obedience_n 88_o chap._n v._n the_o true_a history_n of_o the_o papacy_n its_o original_a and_o growth_n 94._o 1._o the_o ancient_a church_n take_v not_o the_o papacy_n to_o be_v of_o god_n institution_n but_o man_n full_o prove_v p._n 99_o etc._n etc._n 2._o the_o roman_a primacy_n be_v ever_o but_o one_o empire_n and_o not_o all_o the_o christian_a people_n in_o the_o world_n prove_v p._n 103_o etc._n etc._n 3._o council_n be_v general_n only_o as_o to_o the_o empire_n and_o not_o the_o world_n p._n 104._o five_o exception_n p._n 106._o remark_n upon_o the_o african_n pretend_a schism_n austin_n be_v one_o p._n 112._o the_o not_o able_a word_n of_o mel._n canus_n against_o the_o roman_a universality_n 113._o the_o mean_n of_o the_o pope_n last_o growth_n to_o maturity_n 119._o the_o doctrine_n by_o which_o they_o do_v their_o work_n p._n 122._o 1._o depress_v the_o scripture_n sufficiency_n and_o cry_v up_o their_o tradition_n which_o be_v again_o conjute_v 123._o 2._o pretend_v antiquity_n and_o universality_n 125._o both_o confute_v the_o objection_n of_o heresy_n and_o schism_n to_o other_o church_n answer_v p._n 127._o 3._o aggravate_v our_o division_n and_o boast_n of_o their_o unity_n p._n 128._o even_o the_o scandalous_a contend_a sect_n among_o protestant_n have_v more_o unity_n with_o each_o other_o than_o the_o papist_n prove_v 4._o their_o vile_a counsel_n to_o man_n to_o suspect_v all_o religion_n and_o suspend_v it_o to_o make_v they_o papist_n boverius_n to_o our_o late_a king_n p._n 131._o chap._n vi_o what_o the_o pope_n be_v in_o forty_o character_n or_o inadequate_a conception_n of_o he_o p._n 134._o etc._n etc._n chap._n vii_o what_o a_o papist_n be_v the_o word_n papist_n be_v equivocal_a many_o sort_n be_v call_v papist_n that_o differ_v both_o in_o the_o foundation_n and_o 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